Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 I'd be interested as well. We had our yearly visit with Dr. Greenspan and he suggested we try this for reading comprehension, which lately seems to be one of two concerns in school. The other is her focusing ability. Her mind wanders, but she always comes right back, so its not like her older sister who is the poster child for ADD. ---------------------------- Will There Be Refreshments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2001 Report Share Posted November 19, 2001 > I'd be interested as well. We had our yearly visit with Dr. Greenspan and he > suggested we try this for reading comprehension, which lately seems to be one > of two concerns in school. The other is her focusing ability. Her mind > wanders, but she always comes right back, so its not like her older sister > who is the poster child for ADD. > > ---------------------------- > Will There Be Refreshments? we have seen the same Dr.Greenspan too, we do use this method somewhat at our school as i bought them the books for read and math, but i can't tell from them, because they use bits and pieces from different methods-not purely mood Bell-my daughter is alm. 12. you for whom it works -the ideas are good. Brighteyesgirl5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Has anyone used mood-Bell programs and what kind of experience/results did you have? Thanks. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Curtis went through their testing and we've been using their Verbalizing & Visualizing curriculum at home. Their testing was very grueling, especially for a child with a short attention span, but very comprehensive and helpful as well. It really helps pinpoint specific areas involved in reading that are holding a child back. I do think the curriculum has helped Curt in his reading comprehension though it has been a bit limited and can get a bit monotonous if the child moves slowly with it. I'd think it (the V & V part of their program) would be harder for kids who have a lot of difficulty with comprehensive and detailed conversations, though is helpful in developing that skill. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 We are in the process of choosing between going the Dr. Fosnot route or putting our son into LMB for his summer school program. Both testing are expensive. OUr son is high functioning autism. Any suggestions. Lea Antonoplis >From: Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: mood Bell >Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:15:43 -0800 (PST) > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 I would think the best choice would depend on his current challenges and what you are specifically wanting to address. I don't know much about Dr. Fosnot so can't compare the two but LMB's strength is mostly in reading decoding and comprehension. It will spill over into conversation, writing and the ability to follow more detailed events. If this is what you are seeking help with, it would be worth considering LMB. If your child's problems are mainly comprehension, you could buy LMB's V & V curriculum book for about $50 and perhaps do both. Our insurance paid for the LMB testing. Not sure if insurance covers Dr. Fosnot. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 As an SLP, I can say it depends on what you are choosing it for... if the child is having reading problems, then I would suggest checking with a developmental optometrist for vision therapy evaluation-- how are the eyes working together. If you are doing it for auditory integration, you might look into SAMONAS or The Listening Program-- both are relatively inexpensive. mood Bell DOES seem to help a segment of children but I do not know enough about it to help you identify if it is right for your child. Some therapists in our district have used the program, and while they felt it REALLY made a big difference in the child's performance on the mood TEST itself, they did not feel it made a big difference in the child's reading ability. BUT this is a school therapy schedule (my guess is that they were doing it three times a week with the kids) and not the intensive schedule that you might get by going directly to the mood program/centers/private therapists doing it with the child. W > Has anyone used mood-Bell programs and what kind of > experience/results did you have? Thanks. > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 As I wrote on March 1, we have successfully used Dr Fosnot from a distance for the past 2 1/2 years. She does annual evaluations and sets a program for our local therapists to work with. She is a practising speech pathologist, not a " program " so can't be compared. She is however familiar with many different programs and is best qualified to give guidance on what is best for your child, based on her impressive credential of working successfully with children with many and varying challenges. It is important to determine where your child needs help first, and a qualified practising speech pathologist is going to offer this. Dr Fosnot, like any speech pathology or therapy is able to be claimed on insurance - depending on the insurance coverage you might have - her invoices are printed with this facility if you are able use it. hope this helps Re: mood Bell I would think the best choice would depend on his current challenges and what you are specifically wanting to address. I don't know much about Dr. Fosnot so can't compare the two but LMB's strength is mostly in reading decoding and comprehension. It will spill over into conversation, writing and the ability to follow more detailed events. If this is what you are seeking help with, it would be worth considering LMB. If your child's problems are mainly comprehension, you could buy LMB's V & V curriculum book for about $50 and perhaps do both. Our insurance paid for the LMB testing. Not sure if insurance covers Dr. Fosnot. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 This is more of a general reply to a few threads. I am terribly behind in my email. I bought the lindamood Bell stuff for all the wrong reasons. Luckily, I sold it and got most of my money back. I bought VV because I thought it would help with my child's syntax issues (which it didn't). My child didn't have any issues with reading or comprehension so... if you are buying it to help with reading, then I hear it is pretty good. mood Bell also has the LIPS program for reading and they have various clinics where your child can go to to learn how to read. Time Magazine had an article on Dyslexia a few years ago and there was quite a bit on how well mood Bell did with those children. It is in this article if you have a local library to go check it out: TIME MAGAZINE: July 05, 1999 Retraining Your Brain How one company is using a new neurological theory to ease language and reading problems That said, Fast Forward is something we didn't use either, even when we were convinced that our child had auditory discrim issues. I know three children who did FF and I can't say that the reports I heard from them were useful. One child was " hyperlexic " and finished the course early and the FF company allowed him to do the next serious at no cost because he could finish it. She said that his test scores improved but that she didn't see his overall language improve. Another child had very VERY severe issues with learning to read. He did the home version from FF on the computer but the mom had to sit down with him and a second set of headphones. There was little real improvements with him. A third child that I know of was the same as the first child except that he didn't whiz by the program. That doesn't mean that FF doesn't work but given the cost, I would examine if it is necessary. If you are trying to teach a child to read, I know of several children who have done well with the following: 1. Direct instruction, SRA www.sra4kids.com They are expensive though. 2. Edmark (not my favourite to be honest with you because of its site word emphasis) 3. At last a reading method for every child (http://www.onlinereadingteacher.com/) The author of this book will actually answer your questions via email as you teach your child. Click on the message board and you will see that Pecci does indeed answer questions you might have! I am using this to teach some children without disabilities to read but I know of a child who failed FF, hooked on phonics, edmark, and regular ed school and was in the second grade and reading on a kindergarten level. The mom pulled him from school and within a year, he went from a k level of reading to a second grade level. Pretty impressive. A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi all-could someone post the website for mood Bell? We have never heard of it. Where are their programs located? Thanks. Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > guess my > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > almost there- > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > Marcia Hinds is > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > have been > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > recommended > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > we had our > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > faced. We see > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > Texas. Both my > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > thinking skills > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > the other > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > to change > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > these kids > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > up on > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > piece of the > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > for lost > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > are > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > the boys > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > people on > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I think that is under Gander Publishing on the internet............. From: Ann <annmaclaren@ comcast.net> Subject: Re: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:41 PM ? No, insurance did not pay for mood Bell though I thought the Alabama site had a speech therapist on staff and they might have been able to go through insurance-don' t quote me on that. It is financially expensive but I have to say it was worth every penny. It was the difference between them academically succeeding. While it definitely depleted the vacation fund plus some, I took my vacation everyday after school when I didn't need to help them and they built the confidence and independence to work on their own. Interestingly my " normal " ADHD daughter would not have been college bound without the V/V program at mood Bell. Concept imagery is high risk in the ADHD poulation and it tends to run in orphanage kids too. I have found that out with the two we adopted also. My daughter has great work ethic but did terrible in math,nothing stuck, tried tutoring etc. Interesting her math issues resolved and were more tied to concept imagery. Now, my autistic boys had no problem in math but had writing and expression problems. We hit is hard one summer at LMB, did 160 hours/4 hours a day and it made the world of difference. They were no longer back peddling in the classroom. Confidence pays a big part too. When they succeed, it shows in so many other areas. You can have your child tested at a mood Bell center. It is expensive so you want your child to be somewhat functional in a classroom. If not, you may want to opt until they get a little healthier on - it is a balancing act and only you can make those decisions based on your situation. I am mentioning it in case you have a center close to you and to file this information for the future. You will know when the time is right LMB is the only one who tests and can track your child. LMB won't keep a child if progress is not made. I have had contact with many centers and they are a good place to start. You can contact Kendall at the Indianapolis center and she can answers questions too. She has some children. There may be cheaper places out there but I can say that LMB is a national researched based organization with quality control of their process. If you want the best shot- I would recommend them. I have seen others go to different places but they end up back at LMB because the child makes more gains and quicker. The whole idea is fill in the deficit quickly and move on. I never understand how a child could catch up if they were only going to therapy 1 hour a week for 18 months It is not to say other places don't make any gains but just like DAN versus , I think gets the child closer to their full potential. That has been my experience with mood Bell. I think one day insurance will cover mood Bell because it really is therapy and not tutoring. It probably won't happen quick enough for your children. I remember back in 1994 when speech wasn't always covered for autism. I remember fighting insurance because speech was as a 6 week brain traumatherapy- that's it > > > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > > > Thanks for sharing! What other interventions did you do with your > > boys, to > > > supplement the protocol? Did you do speech, OT, etc> > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kristy > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf > > Of Ann or > > > Dave MacLaren > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:32 PM > > > groups (DOT) com > > > Subject: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > guess my > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > almost there- > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > Marcia Hinds is > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > have been > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > recommended > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > we had our > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > faced. We see > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > Texas. Both my > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > thinking skills > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > the other > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > to change > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > these kids > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > up on > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > piece of the > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > for lost > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > are > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > the boys > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > people on > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 http://www.lindamoodbell.com/ > > > > > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing! What other interventions did you do with your > > > boys, to > > > > supplement the protocol? Did you do speech, OT, etc> > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Kristy > > > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf > > > Of Ann or > > > > Dave MacLaren > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:32 PM > > > > groups (DOT) com > > > > Subject: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > > guess my > > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > > almost there- > > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > > Marcia Hinds is > > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > > have been > > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > > recommended > > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > > we had our > > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > > faced. We see > > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > > Texas. Both my > > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > > thinking skills > > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > > the other > > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > > to change > > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > > these kids > > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > > up on > > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > > piece of the > > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > > for lost > > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > > are > > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > > the boys > > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > > people on > > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Also, mood Bell goes to other cuties for summer instruction. I cut and pasted the last email I received from them just to give you an idea. Another thought. If they can get a group of interested people together,they may even come to you. The intensive instruction is really the way to go. It is not regular tutoring. In a nutshell, their V/V program works on trying to get your child to develop automatic imagery. Comprehension/ the gestalt is made of 12 words : What, size, shape, number, color, where, movement, perspective, mood, sound, when and background. LMB work with these kids to expressively form and describe pictures using these words until it becomes automatic. They then they move on to sentence by sentence, then paragraphs, whole page, and then summarize. You will find that your child's expressive language will increase because now they know how to describe a picture or thought instead of saying " I don't know " . Schools don't teach comprehension they just have you reread things over and over again. Seeing the " big picture " is the foundation for critical thinking and problem solving because then you can anticipate what will happen next.Pacing and knowing when a child is stable and can move to the next step also takes experience and that is where I see other places fail. Some places don't do intensive instruction and I can't stress that enough. At least try it- I know it goes against the grain on how you are used to seeing your child lag behind in learning. Their instructors switch out every 50 minutes and they keep the child engaged. It is hard to do that at home for two to 4 hours. I took their workshops but really, this is one of those situations where it is impossible for mom to do- trust me and I am used to doing everything myself. I don't trust many people with my kids but this is a place where you can. If there is a mood Bell center around you, consider an evaluation when you feel the time is right. The evaulation process is an eye opener to how your kids process information. It is totally different than the useless information you get from school testing I have found in all 4 of my kids that the data is pretty indictative to real life learning. I think people under estimate how much we use comprehension :)Every parent has a notebook check in their IEP because these kids always forget to bring home that math book or folder, right :)I struggled with that for years. I found with my boys once they completed V/V this was no longer an issue. I never thought about it but you have to be able to summarize your days and mentally go through your classes to determine what homework and what books you need to bring home. It is the same skill set and summarizing a story or your thoughts. My PDD-NOS boys did LMB the summer before 6th grade. I wish I found out about them sooner. Here is the LMB email: Summer has begun! Our Learning Centers are gearing up for what is shaping-up to be a very busy summer season. There are still instructional sessions available in most locations, but call quickly to reserve a space (800-300-1818). This summer our services are also available in our Summer Intensive Learning Clinics located in: Birmingham, AL: Open May 11 - August 7, 2009 Baton Rouge, LA: Opening June 8 - August 7, 2009 ville, FL: Opening June 15 - August 14, 2009 Maui, HI: Opening June 15 - August 7, 2009 Ann Arbor, MI: Opening June 15 - August 14, 2009 Camarillo, CA: Opening June 15 - August 21, 2009 Baltimore, MD: Opening June 22 - August 14, 2009 Suffolk County, NY: Opening June 29 - August 21, 2009 West Hartford, CT: Opening July 6 - August 28, 2009 To learn more about these Summer Intensive Learning Clinics visit our website at: http://www.lindamoodbell.com/learningcenters/learning-center-locations.html Nanci Bell, On-the-Air: Another bit of exciting news is that this Friday, June 5th, Nanci Bell will be a guest on the Doctor Radio station broadcast through Sirius 114 and XM 119 satellite radio. Dr. Harold Koplewicz from the NYU Child Study Center will interview Nanci. The program will air from 8am-9am, Eastern. You can learn more about this program and where to sign-up for subscriptions online at: http://www.lindamoodbell.com/doctorradio > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing! What other interventions did you do with your > > > > boys, to > > > > > supplement the protocol? Did you do speech, OT, etc> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Kristy > > > > > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf > > > > Of Ann or > > > > > Dave MacLaren > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:32 PM > > > > > groups (DOT) com > > > > > Subject: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > > > guess my > > > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > > > almost there- > > > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > > > Marcia Hinds is > > > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > > > have been > > > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > > > recommended > > > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > > > we had our > > > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > > > faced. We see > > > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > > > Texas. Both my > > > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > > > thinking skills > > > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > > > the other > > > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > > > to change > > > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > > > these kids > > > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > > > up on > > > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > > > piece of the > > > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > > > for lost > > > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > > > are > > > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > > > the boys > > > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > > > people on > > > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Hi Ann-Thanks for the post! The program sounds fantastic! I will call to get more info. How old is your child and what great results have you seen with their program? Gayle Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > > > guess my > > > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > > > almost there- > > > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > > > Marcia Hinds is > > > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > > > have been > > > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > > > recommended > > > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > > > we had our > > > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > > > faced. We see > > > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > > > Texas. Both my > > > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > > > thinking skills > > > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > > > the other > > > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > > > to change > > > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > > > these kids > > > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > > > up on > > > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > > > piece of the > > > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > > > for lost > > > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > > > are > > > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > > > the boys > > > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > > > people on > > > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 The mood bell website is www.lindamoodbell.com Gander publishing where you would go to purchase materials. Having 4 kids through the programs, I would not consider tryingthis yourself, you really want to setup the child for success and it is hard to do from a parent end. Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > guess my > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > almost there- > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > Marcia Hinds is > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > have been > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > recommended > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > we had our > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > faced. We see > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > Texas. Both my > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > thinking skills > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > the other > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > to change > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > these kids > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > up on > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > piece of the > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > for lost > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > are > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > the boys > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > people on > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 My son attends sessions at mood bell in Pasadena CA. He has made great progress in the program. It is somewhat similar to his current ABA program in the way it is delivered. It is a structured somewhat intense program but very effective. We are very happy with it. Insurance does not cover this type of treatment since it is considered educational and not medical, however some school districts with cover the cost if you can prove they were not able to provide adequate instruction and therefore your child needs LMB in order to fill in the gaps. (this is what happened in our case). From: Ann <annmaclaren@ comcast.net> Subject: Re: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! groups (DOT) com Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:41 PM ? No, insurance did not pay for mood Bell though I thought the Alabama site had a speech therapist on staff and they might have been able to go through insurance-don' t quote me on that. It is financially expensive but I have to say it was worth every penny. It was the difference between them academically succeeding. While it definitely depleted the vacation fund plus some, I took my vacation everyday after school when I didn't need to help them and they built the confidence and independence to work on their own. Interestingly my " normal " ADHD daughter would not have been college bound without the V/V program at mood Bell. Concept imagery is high risk in the ADHD poulation and it tends to run in orphanage kids too. I have found that out with the two we adopted also. My daughter has great work ethic but did terrible in math,nothing stuck, tried tutoring etc. Interesting her math issues resolved and were more tied to concept imagery. Now, my autistic boys had no problem in math but had writing and expression problems. We hit is hard one summer at LMB, did 160 hours/4 hours a day and it made the world of difference. They were no longer back peddling in the classroom. Confidence pays a big part too. When they succeed, it shows in so many other areas. You can have your child tested at a mood Bell center. It is expensive so you want your child to be somewhat functional in a classroom. If not, you may want to opt until they get a little healthier on - it is a balancing act and only you can make those decisions based on your situation. I am mentioning it in case you have a center close to you and to file this information for the future. You will know when the time is right LMB is the only one who tests and can track your child. LMB won't keep a child if progress is not made. I have had contact with many centers and they are a good place to start. You can contact Kendall at the Indianapolis center and she can answers questions too. She has some children. There may be cheaper places out there but I can say that LMB is a national researched based organization with quality control of their process. If you want the best shot- I would recommend them. I have seen others go to different places but they end up back at LMB because the child makes more gains and quicker. The whole idea is fill in the deficit quickly and move on. I never understand how a child could catch up if they were only going to therapy 1 hour a week for 18 months It is not to say other places don't make any gains but just like DAN versus , I think gets the child closer to their full potential. That has been my experience with mood Bell. I think one day insurance will cover mood Bell because it really is therapy and not tutoring. It probably won't happen quick enough for your children. I remember back in 1994 when speech wasn't always covered for autism. I remember fighting insurance because speech was as a 6 week brain traumatherapy- that's it > > > > > > Hi Ann, > > > > > > Thanks for sharing! What other interventions did you do with your > > boys, to > > > supplement the protocol? Did you do speech, OT, etc> > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kristy > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf > > Of Ann or > > > Dave MacLaren > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:32 PM > > > groups (DOT) com > > > Subject: Recovery- Hi Marcia Hinds! > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I felt to compelled to email, it has been a couple of years:) I > > guess my > > > twin boys would be in the category of one " recovered " and one > > almost there- > > > they are entering 10th grade. I don't normally email because > > Marcia Hinds is > > > right, you tend to drop off the list or just listen because you > > have been > > > down that road before. Five or Six years ago Marcia Hinds > > recommended > > > and we followed through. Our boys were high functioning so while > > we had our > > > " battles " they certainly weren't some of the challenges others > > faced. We see > > > Dr. and we started just as he opened up his office in > > Texas. Both my > > > twins are driving and have the problem solving and critical > > thinking skills > > > of their age group. One twin doesn't need to be on antifungals, > > the other > > > still has yeast issues and I can tell from how tired he gets when > > to change > > > medicine. Marcia's last post was right on, it takes a while for > > these kids > > > to improve but slow and steady wins the race These kids do pick > > up on > > > higher cognitive thinking but medical intervention is only one > > piece of the > > > equation. You still have gaps and behaviors to work on and make up > > for lost > > > time. Academically my boys are at peer level with honor roll grades, > > > independent work and they will go to college to be engineers. They > > are > > > indistinguishable from their peers and people are surprised when > > the boys > > > tell people they have or " had " autism It is a long journey but > > people on > > > this list will guide you. Stick with it. Marcia, thanks for making a > > > difference in our lives Ann MacLaren- Indiana > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Eileen, LMB in California would not consider anything less than one hour per day, minimum. When I talked to the folks here in London, it was the same. And, I was quoted 100 pounds per hour (last year). That makes it 2000pounds per month just for LMB tuition. My position is that it is a good program (though it helped my daughter in a very tangential way, not directly), but one needs to budget for at least a couple of years. Since this puts it out of reach for a lot of people, the manual plus a few other items, or the whole kit, is an option worth considering. Radhe > > Aargi - I think two sessions a week at £100 is expensive and out of a lot of folks' reach. Having said that, these people seemed to be great with my boy. They had the interaction down pat, as you mention, which a lot of SALTs don't in the UK when dealing with autism. (Don't all beat me up, some do! ) If you've had some training in it the home kit could be useful. You quote a cost of $379 for the kit but it is only available in US and with customs duty would have run over $500 with international shipping. I checked it out. I love the theory behind LB and wasn't suggesting its a rip off - but I budget on a three month term and that works out at about £3K. To get the benefit out of it you have to keep it going as you say. I know one person who has done this for three years with fabulous results. > > The London branch also want you to do a number of language tests, which OK, you may be asked to do by any SALT, but in my quote that was another £1K. £4K start up cost. Plus travel to London two sessions a week. Another £40 a week. > > If offered this or SALT, and the costs are comparable, I'd choose LB for my son but that is an individual decision. > > I did like their approach and it is well founded in research. > > I agree with you about intensity this is true for most interventions where developmental delay is concerned from what I can see. > > Apparently they are not training parents here whereas you can get training in US? > > Despite funding for biomed costs, we still have to make sacrifices here to meet overall costs and £4K isn't within our budget at the moment. That won't always be the case though so definitely got my eye on this for the future. > > > Regards > Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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