Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Your welcome, that would be my area of expertise I guess! LOL! Kody receives gammaglobulin every three weeks too. It helps some but not as well as I had prayed for. Kody's immune system has always been very bad, he is always, always, sick and in the hospital. I had always assumed that Kody's learning problems were from his immune problems, and then since he was 4 his learning issues became progressively worse, as has his behavior issues. Everyone kept telling me that his learning can't regress, his IQ won't go down it would go up, but he is just falling further and further behind and things he knew yesterday he doesn't know today. I have checked out the website, a lady on an autism list gave me the website. I have made copies of everything to bring to my pediatrician. I'd love to bring Kody to Dr. Goldberg but he is very far away from us, and we have spent so much money on Kody's healthcare costs that there simply isn't extra to go at this time. We took him to New York a year ago to see an immune specialist there, and the trip (airfare and hotel) were donated to us. But still, I know Kody has had the majority of the bloodwork that Dr. Goldberg suggests done already, and I was hoping that we could handle things from here with our pediatrician, is that possible or do you have to go to Dr. Goldberg for a diagnosis? Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Hi,Diane: Welcome to the list. Thanks for the great overview of all the IgG's. Many of us on the list who have " Kids " also have other immune issues within our families (just as you mention having in yours'). It might be helpful, if you haven't already, to review the http://www.nids.net site; a great new tool there is the site map that helps you navigate thru the site here's that link ---> http://www.nids.net/sitemap.htm ~~~cyn PS Thanks for all those great links you posted below! _______________________ --- " Diane Schmidt " wrote: Hey! I'm new here but I can answer that! So far I only know for sure that my son has hypogammaglobulinemia, and developemental delays, epilepsy, asthma, and other learning and behavior problems. But since the hypogammglobulinemia diagnosis, I do know what those tests are for! IgA is the part of your immune system that works in the mucus areas of your body. Example, your sinuses. If you have low to no IgA you would be very susceptable to sinus infections, ear infections, and quite commonly you would have GI infections. IgG's come in 4 subclasses, IgG 1, IgG 2, IgG 3, IgG4, Not much is know about IgG 1 and 4, but IgG 2 is what fights bacteria and IgG 3 is what fights viruses. (my son has very little IgG 2 and 3). IgE is the part of your immune system that causes allergic reactions, this one you WANT to be low, if you have high IgE you are most likely allergic to something. IgM istrickier and is one of those things you don't want to low of but too high is not a good thing either. From the way I understand it, IgM helps the Ig's fight what they need to fight. Too little and you can't fight infections and too much and your body attacks itself and causes auto immune problems. You can find awesome information on the immune system etc on these two websites: http://www..com and http://www.primaryimmune.org I joined this list because Kody has autistic tendancies albeit very high functioning. His learning problems are getting much worse, and his behavior is changing daily. And this list was the first place that has ever connected his developemental issues with his immune deficiencies. I am totally floored, and will be bringing tons of information I copied off the website to my Dr asap!!! January 9th Kody sees a psychologist for the first time, we went that route because of the behavior, but now I just can't help but think that this is the root of allhis problems! Amazing. We do have autoimmune disorders in our family, I have fibromyalgia, and my grandmother had alzheimers. We also have two older children with ADD. It is unbelieveable to me how much Kody fits a diagnosis. Wow. Diane, Mom to Kody age 6.5, Di Syndrome, Hypogammaglobulinemia, Epilepsy, Asthma, developmental disorders, and learning disorders Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs: http://www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Another fabulous website for immune deficiencies is www.immunedisease.com It has under the physician's tab an awesome online textbook. And under the products and therapies section you can find an IVIG doseage calculator. Diane, Mom to Kody Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Hi,Diane: Welcome to the list. Thanks for the great overview of all the IgG's. Many of us on the list who have " Kids " also have other immune issues within our families (just as you mention having in yours'). It might be helpful, if you haven't already, to review the http://www.nids.net site; a great new tool there is the site map that helps you navigate thru the site here's that link ---> http://www.nids.net/sitemap.htm ~~~cyn PS Thanks for all those great links you posted below! _______________________ --- " Diane Schmidt " wrote: Hey! I'm new here but I can answer that! So far I only know for sure that my son has hypogammaglobulinemia, and developemental delays, epilepsy, asthma, and other learning and behavior problems. But since the hypogammglobulinemia diagnosis, I do know what those tests are for! IgA is the part of your immune system that works in the mucus areas of your body. Example, your sinuses. If you have low to no IgA you would be very susceptable to sinus infections, ear infections, and quite commonly you would have GI infections. IgG's come in 4 subclasses, IgG 1, IgG 2, IgG 3, IgG4, Not much is know about IgG 1 and 4, but IgG 2 is what fights bacteria and IgG 3 is what fights viruses. (my son has very little IgG 2 and 3). IgE is the part of your immune system that causes allergic reactions, this one you WANT to be low, if you have high IgE you are most likely allergic to something. IgM istrickier and is one of those things you don't want to low of but too high is not a good thing either. From the way I understand it, IgM helps the Ig's fight what they need to fight. Too little and you can't fight infections and too much and your body attacks itself and causes auto immune problems. You can find awesome information on the immune system etc on these two websites: http://www..com and http://www.primaryimmune.org I joined this list because Kody has autistic tendancies albeit very high functioning. His learning problems are getting much worse, and his behavior is changing daily. And this list was the first place that has ever connected his developemental issues with his immune deficiencies. I am totally floored, and will be bringing tons of information I copied off the website to my Dr asap!!! January 9th Kody sees a psychologist for the first time, we went that route because of the behavior, but now I just can't help but think that this is the root of allhis problems! Amazing. We do have autoimmune disorders in our family, I have fibromyalgia, and my grandmother had alzheimers. We also have two older children with ADD. It is unbelieveable to me how much Kody fits a diagnosis. Wow. Diane, Mom to Kody age 6.5, Di Syndrome, Hypogammaglobulinemia, Epilepsy, Asthma, developmental disorders, and learning disorders Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs: http://www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 There is in fact an IVIG doseage chart but the kids under dr goldberg's protocol receive IMGG that is intramuscular gamma globulin Re: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Another fabulous website for immune deficiencies is www.immunedisease.com It has under the physician's tab an awesome online textbook. And under the products and therapies section you can find an IVIG doseage calculator. Diane, Mom to Kody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Interesting, do you know why he uses IMGG? Based on what I know about immune deficiencies, IVIG works more effectively than IMGG and IMGG is not only more painful but considered an outdated therapy by the Immune Deficiency Foundation. Curious to know why Dr. Goldberg choses IMGG over IVIG. Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- Re: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " There is in fact an IVIG doseage chart but the kids under dr goldberg's protocol receive IMGG that is intramuscular gamma globulin ******************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 My son recieves gammaglobulin every three weeks (IVIG, not IMGG). Kody gets it because he pretty much has no functioning immune system. He has Di Syndrome and also hypogammaglobulinemia (which is basically no IGG's and no IGA's). He has gotten IVIG for two and a half years now. I am amazed that Dr Goldberg prefers IMGG over IVIG. I've spent a long time researching IVIG ever since Kody's immune deficiencies were diagnosed, and in every instance IVIG is the preferred way to go, safety wise, effectiveness, and even pain wise. I am sure he has his reasons, I'd sure like to know them! Every immunologist we have seen, and we have seen the leading primary immune deficiency specialist in the country as well, all prefer IVIG. Interesting. I don't know about a cost difference, IMGG was never even an option as far as Kody's specialists have been concerned. Yes, IVIG is expensive, but if your child has an approved diagnosis for IVIG then it is covered under insurance. If your child does have immune problems, low IgG or whatever, they would qualify. As for painful, I hear that IMGG is extremely painful. IVIG on the other hand, the only pain involved is getting the IV started, and Emla cream works wonders for that. Kody has a port now too so that helps access easier (he needs IV antibiotics frequently too). There are some side affects to the IVIG, but they are rare and Kody has never experienced them. With IVIG the gammaglobulin gets to where it has to go much easier and effectively than when it is injected into a muscle. Just my two cents, and again I have no idea why Dr Goldberg prefers IMGG, he most likely has good reasons, I just know in the PID (primary immune deficiency) world IVIG is definately the most preferred course of treatment. Diane, Mom to Kody Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " we are considering gammaglobulin for my 4 year old. if i may ask- why did your son reaceive it? how often? how painful is it? how has it helped the most? thank you ******************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Oh I forgot, IVIG helps Kody the most because he simply cannot fight infections by himself. He doesn't have enough IgG on his own to do so. Without his IVIG he would get never ending bouts of pneumonia (he had 7 in 4 years), he had osteomylitis, cellulitis, bronchitis, upper respiratory infections, ear infections, sinus infections, strep infections, and various other weird things, all more times than I can count. And I mean that literally. There was a period of time before IVIG that I would have Kody into the pediatrician 3-4 times a week each time with a new infection. He has been hospitalized more times than I can count. He uses IV antibiotics frequently etc. All this is much better now. The longest he has ever gone in his life without an infection was 9 weeks last summer. Now since IVIG he averages getting an infection literally days before his IVIG infusion so about every 3 weeks or so. Which again is way better than 3-4 times a week! Diane Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " we are considering gammaglobulin for my 4 year old. if i may ask- why did your son reaceive it? how often? how painful is it? how has it helped the most? thank you ****************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Diane, Also, welcome - and do as suggests - visit the websites listed. Do look out for the NIDs bloodwork-up link - that will list all the tests Dr G orders before your first consult - a lot are Immune panel and allergy and antibody tests - and judging from your note, you may have done a lot of these already! Sounds very much that you have already concluded that your child may fit a diagnosis. So what exactly are Di Syndrome and Hypogammaglobulinemia? I can kinda guess the second one. Would be interested to know more if you have a moment to spare, best wishes Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Hi,Diane: Welcome to the list. Thanks for the great overview of all the IgG's. Many of us on the list who have " Kids " also have other immune issues within our families (just as you mention having in yours'). It might be helpful, if you haven't already, to review the http://www.nids.net site; a great new tool there is the site map that helps you navigate thru the site, here's that link ---> http://www.nids.net/sitemap.htm ~~~cyn PS Thanks for all those great links you posted below! _______________________ --- " Diane Schmidt " wrote: Hey! I'm new here but I can answer that! So far I only know for sure that my son has hypogammaglobulinemia, and developemental delays, epilepsy, asthma, and other learning and behavior problems. But since the hypogammglobulinemia diagnosis, I do know what those tests are for! IgA is the part of your immune system that works in the mucus areas of your body. Example, your sinuses. If you have low to no IgA you would be very susceptable to sinus infections, ear infections, and quite commonly you would have GI infections. IgG's come in 4 subclasses, IgG 1, IgG 2, IgG 3, IgG4, Not much is know about IgG 1 and 4, but IgG 2 is what fights bacteria and IgG 3 is what fights viruses. (my son has very little IgG 2 and 3). IgE is the part of your immune system that causes allergic reactions, this one you WANT to be low, if you have high IgE you are most likely allergic to something. IgM istrickier and is one of those things you don't want to low of but too high is not a good thing either. From the way I understand it, IgM helps the Ig's fight what they need to fight. Too little and you can't fight infections and too much and your body attacks itself and causes auto immune problems. You can find awesome information on the immune system etc on these two websites: http://www..com and http://www.primaryimmune.org I joined this list because Kody has autistic tendancies albeit very high functioning. His learning problems are getting much worse, and his behavior is changing daily. And this list was the first place that has ever connected his developemental issues with his immune deficiencies. I am totally floored, and will be bringing tons of information I copied off the website to my Dr asap!!! January 9th Kody sees a psychologist for the first time, we went that route because of the behavior, but now I just can't help but think that this is the root of allhis problems! Amazing. We do have autoimmune disorders in our family, I have fibromyalgia, and my grandmother had alzheimers. We also have two older children with ADD. It is unbelieveable to me how much Kody fits a diagnosis. Wow. Diane, Mom to Kody age 6.5, Di Syndrome, Hypogammaglobulinemia, Epilepsy, Asthma, developmental disorders, and learning disorders Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs: http://www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 I have a 6 year old nephew (husband's sister's son) who has X-Linked Agammaglobulinemia (XLA.) He has to get life long antibody replacements through monthly injections of gamma globulin (IVIG.) He was diagnosed with it after he quit getting breast milk and kept getting hospitalized as an infant with severe infections. (I'm not a medial expert, but the antigens or whatever it is in the breastmilk was helping to boost his immune system.) XLA supposedly only affects 1 out of 100,000 males. He receives special testing and help through St. Judes a few times a year as well. But he is in no way affected behaviorally by it. He's a well adjusted, out spoken boy, who knows his limits with germs. - Reality lies beyond the horizon.... RE: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " > Diane, > Also, welcome - and do as suggests - visit the websites listed. >Dolook out for the NIDs bloodwork-up link - that will list all the tests Dr >G orders before your first consult - a lot are Immune panel and allergy and > antibody tests - and judging from your note, you may have done a lot of > these already! Sounds very much that you have already concluded that your > child may fit a diagnosis. > So what exactly are Di Syndrome and Hypogammaglobulinemia? I can >kinda guess the second one. Would be interested to know more if you have a >moment to spare, > best wishes > > ============================================ >It might be helpful, if you haven't already, to review the http://www.nids.net >site; a great new tool there is the site map that helps you navigate thru the >site, here's that link ---> http://www.nids.net/sitemap.htm > ~~~cyn > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 , No problem! Di Syndrome is a genetic disorder, it causes a variety of problems, including cleft palette, thymus problems, heart problems, siezures calcium deficiencies, immune problems, amongst about 180 total possible symptoms (of which Kody has something like 56 of them, a high amonut!), the hypogammaglobulinemia is a primary immune deficiency involving low IgG (not to mention non functioning IgG, it is possible to have IgG and not have it work right) and at being low in at least one of the other Ig's, Kody is low in IgA as well. Having the Di and the hypogam is like an immune double whamy. As for virus's in the IVIG, it is now " cleaned " and free of viruses, has been since that mad cow scare a while back. It is checked for Hepititus and all the viruses. Trust me, I checked and checked and double checked it's safety before I agreed to start my son on it. Yeah, I am almost 100% certain he has . He reached all his milestones on time when an infant, even walked at 10 months old! But he suddenly stopped talking, and had no words beyond Mama at age 2. I didn't have the immune diagnosis then, although he was sick constantly, but he was enrolled in our schools preprimary impaired program for speech and language. By age 3 he was speaking like a 2 year old would, but by kindergarten he was speaking wonderful (other than small things like he still mispronounces certain things). But when he was 4, it was obvious he wasn't picking up on his alphabet, numbers, etc. Then last year in kindergarten (he also went to PPI in the afternoon) it was glaringly obvious he had a problem. By the end of kindergarten he still couldn't count to 20, he couldn't say his alphabet without mistakes, couldn't recognize any letter except KODY, couldn't write any letters except KODY, and he confuses words that sound alike (example, busy with dizzy). So we had a nueropsyche eval done, and the result was that he has central auditory processing disorder. Okay fine, we'll deal with that But then this year, he is falling further and further behind, it is getting worse and worse. He still can't recognize his alphabet, he can't look at a sentence and copy it (he'll copy it 100% backwards!), he can't even read the word Mom. He is also having behavior problems that he never had before. He argues non stop, he can't understand what you say and thinks you said one thing when you actually said another, insists that people blame him for things,obsesses over one thing (currently anything superhero) and many, many more things. I did an informal autism checklist thingy at Kody's school, 32 points was considered the cut off for referall for a autism work up, Kody scored 33. I'd say he was high functioning autistic, but I'd also say that it is gradually getting worse. Which leads me to what I've read on the site, that without treatment it can get worse? Seems to me to be the only connection between his immune problems and his learning/behabior that I can see. Maybe I am grasping at straws? Diane, Mom to Kody Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- RE: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Diane, Also, welcome - and do as suggests - visit the websites listed. Do look out for the NIDs bloodwork-up link - that will list all the tests Dr G orders before your first consult - a lot are Immune panel and allergy and antibody tests - and judging from your note, you may have done a lot of these already! Sounds very much that you have already concluded that your child may fit a diagnosis. So what exactly are Di Syndrome and Hypogammaglobulinemia? I can kinda guess the second one. Would be interested to know more if you have a moment to spare, best wishes ********************* Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 Thanks very much Diane for explaining Di Syndrome and hypogammaglobulinemia. You certainly have your hands full! I read your 2 posts from yesterday just after my previous posts, and a lot was already explained. On your question about IVIG v's IMGG, I can see why your son needs IVIG - because of his low to no IgG. My son has plenty -but perhaps as you suggest, it doesn't 'work right'. His early immune panel results were showing big imbalances though in our last immune panel done in November, his results were beautifully normal, except for a slightly high level of NK cells - suggesting a still over active system. I think that Dr Goldberg is using IMGG in our case as an immune management tool rather than to supply GG as in your sons case. This management is done in conjunction with other agents like Famvir and Kutapressin. With all this together, we seem to be moving forward more rapidly. (fingers crossed) All of the developmental disorders, delays and regressions that you speak of below characterize kids in variations. Also the medical issues you describe for your son have striking similarities. I do hope that you can look further into some treatment. Perhaps you can start by taking some of the hypothesis and treatment papers from the website to discuss with your local Dr. Once again, thanks for sharing this - best wishes RE: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " , No problem! Di Syndrome is a genetic disorder, it causes a variety of problems, including cleft palette, thymus problems, heart problems, siezures calcium deficiencies, immune problems, amongst about 180 total possible symptoms (of which Kody has something like 56 of them, a high amonut!), the hypogammaglobulinemia is a primary immune deficiency involving low IgG (not to mention non functioning IgG, it is possible to have IgG and not have it work right) and at being low in at least one of the other Ig's, Kody is low in IgA as well. Having the Di and the hypogam is like an immune double whamy. As for virus's in the IVIG, it is now " cleaned " and free of viruses, has been since that mad cow scare a while back. It is checked for Hepititus and all the viruses. Trust me, I checked and checked and double checked it's safety before I agreed to start my son on it. Yeah, I am almost 100% certain he has . He reached all his milestones on time when an infant, even walked at 10 months old! But he suddenly stopped talking, and had no words beyond Mama at age 2. I didn't have the immune diagnosis then, although he was sick constantly, but he was enrolled in our schools preprimary impaired program for speech and language. By age 3 he was speaking like a 2 year old would, but by kindergarten he was speaking wonderful (other than small things like he still mispronounces certain things). But when he was 4, it was obvious he wasn't picking up on his alphabet, numbers, etc. Then last year in kindergarten (he also went to PPI in the afternoon) it was glaringly obvious he had a problem. By the end of kindergarten he still couldn't count to 20, he couldn't say his alphabet without mistakes, couldn't recognize any letter except KODY, couldn't write any letters except KODY, and he confuses words that sound alike (example, busy with dizzy). So we had a nueropsyche eval done, and the result was that he has central auditory processing disorder. Okay fine, we'll deal with that But then this year, he is falling further and further behind, it is getting worse and worse. He still can't recognize his alphabet, he can't look at a sentence and copy it (he'll copy it 100% backwards!), he can't even read the word Mom. He is also having behavior problems that he never had before. He argues non stop, he can't understand what you say and thinks you said one thing when you actually said another, insists that people blame him for things,obsesses over one thing (currently anything superhero) and many, many more things. I did an informal autism checklist thingy at Kody's school, 32 points was considered the cut off for referall for a autism work up, Kody scored 33. I'd say he was high functioning autistic, but I'd also say that it is gradually getting worse. Which leads me to what I've read on the site, that without treatment it can get worse? Seems to me to be the only connection between his immune problems and his learning/behabior that I can see. Maybe I am grasping at straws? Diane, Mom to Kody ************************ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Hey, I think I figured out why Dr. Goldberg uses IMGG instead of IVIG... trust my insatiable need to know things, so I dug out my IVIG info and started checking. In the " history " section on IVIG, it states that IMGG was the first way to get gammaglobulin in the blood. You can't inject large enough amounts of it into the muscle because the muscle can't absorb it. But it is used for people with healthy immune systems that need a " booster " so to speak. So my guess is that is why, most of your kids that get IMGG must not have low enough immune systems to need IVIG, so they get the IMGG booster. Interesting....and it explains alot! Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html -- RE: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " , No problem! Di Syndrome is a genetic disorder, it causes a variety of problems, including cleft palette, thymus problems, heart problems, siezures calcium deficiencies, immune problems, amongst about 180 total possible symptoms (of which Kody has something like 56 of them, a high amonut!), the hypogammaglobulinemia is a primary immune deficiency involving low IgG (not to mention non functioning IgG, it is possible to have IgG and not have it work right) and at being low in at least one of the other Ig's, Kody is low in IgA as well. Having the Di and the hypogam is like an immune double whamy. As for virus's in the IVIG, it is now " cleaned " and free of viruses, has been since that mad cow scare a while back. It is checked for Hepititus and all the viruses. Trust me, I checked and checked and double checked it's safety before I agreed to start my son on it. Yeah, I am almost 100% certain he has . He reached all his milestones on time when an infant, even walked at 10 months old! But he suddenly stopped talking, and had no words beyond Mama at age 2. I didn't have the immune diagnosis then, although he was sick constantly, but he was enrolled in our schools preprimary impaired program for speech and language. By age 3 he was speaking like a 2 year old would, but by kindergarten he was speaking wonderful (other than small things like he still mispronounces certain things). But when he was 4, it was obvious he wasn't picking up on his alphabet, numbers, etc. Then last year in kindergarten (he also went to PPI in the afternoon) it was glaringly obvious he had a problem. By the end of kindergarten he still couldn't count to 20, he couldn't say his alphabet without mistakes, couldn't recognize any letter except KODY, couldn't write any letters except KODY, and he confuses words that sound alike (example, busy with dizzy). So we had a nueropsyche eval done, and the result was that he has central auditory processing disorder. Okay fine, we'll deal with that But then this year, he is falling further and further behind, it is getting worse and worse. He still can't recognize his alphabet, he can't look at a sentence and copy it (he'll copy it 100% backwards!), he can't even read the word Mom. He is also having behavior problems that he never had before. He argues non stop, he can't understand what you say and thinks you said one thing when you actually said another, insists that people blame him for things,obsesses over one thing (currently anything superhero) and many, many more things. I did an informal autism checklist thingy at Kody's school, 32 points was considered the cut off for referall for a autism work up, Kody scored 33. I'd say he was high functioning autistic, but I'd also say that it is gradually getting worse. Which leads me to what I've read on the site, that without treatment it can get worse? Seems to me to be the only connection between his immune problems and his learning/behabior that I can see. Maybe I am grasping at straws? Diane, Mom to Kody ************************ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 I am sure you are right on this but it would be good to get Dr. G to expound on this on the chat. RE: Re: was lab results/now " Welcome " Hey, I think I figured out why Dr. Goldberg uses IMGG instead of IVIG... trust my insatiable need to know things, so I dug out my IVIG info and started checking. In the " history " section on IVIG, it states that IMGG was the first way to get gammaglobulin in the blood. You can't inject large enough amounts of it into the muscle because the muscle can't absorb it. But it is used for people with healthy immune systems that need a " booster " so to speak. So my guess is that is why, most of your kids that get IMGG must not have low enough immune systems to need IVIG, so they get the IMGG booster. Interesting....and it explains alot! Please feel free to visit my website for parents of children with multiple special needs : www.geocities.com/schmidtzoo/SNAK.index.html ********************* Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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