Chicken Pox vaccine

[Guest guest]

Has Varivax always been thimerasol free? My daughter was vaccinated with this

in '96.

Thx,

[Guest guest]

The Chicken Pox Vaccine is named Varicella, Brand name Varivax,

made/manufactured by Merck is Thimerosal and Mercury Free. It's

necessity I feel is dependant on your child's needs. If having

chicken pox would be unbearable for your child's sensory issues you

may want to consider it. There is potential for risk however. There

is a new book by Dr. Cave, M.D. discussing Vaccines of all

kinds and the title say the rest, it's called " What Your Doctor May

Not Tell You About Children's Vaccination's. " She is in practice with

Dr. Amy Holmes in Louisiana.

You can also use http://www.vaccinesafety.edu to look up vaccine

information.

Cyndy

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:13:05 -0600

Subject: CHICKEN POX VACCINE

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Just a personal comment concerning the Chicken Pox Vaccine.

My next door neighbor took her daughter in for the Chicken Pox shot

and was then horrified to find out that a friend's son who had also

been given the shot had a breakout of red " skin tags " all over his

neck and face. The dermatologist burned them off and they reappeared

within a month. I think they have gone through this twice now.

I wouldn't even think of getting that shot for my kids!

Suzanne

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Stupid doctor!

[ ] RE: Chicken Pox Vaccine

The dermatologist burned them off and they reappeared

> within a month.

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It was predictable when the live chicken pox vaccine was licensed in

1995

that one dose would not give lifelong protection in the same way that

recovery from chicken pox disease gives lifelong immunity. The

developers of

the live chicken pox vaccine, including Anne Gershon, knew this. It is

common knowledge that vaccines only stimulate temporary, partial

immunity

and the historical experience with live measles vaccine is a perfect

example. By trading lifelong immunity for temporary, vaccine-induced

immunity, populations become vaccine dependent. Chicken pox is a

relatively

benign disease for 99.9 percent of healthy children but it is much more

serious in teenagers and adults. Mandating the use of chicken pox

vaccine

and removing the ability for children to get permanent immunity to

chicken

pox, puts them at risk as adults. The winners in this public health

strategy

are the pharmaceutical companies producing vaccines requiring purchase

of

multiple doses. The losers are the people, who are first put at risk as

children for vaccine adverse events and then again put at risk as adults

for

a disease that the vaccine fails to protect against long term.

Chickenpox Vaccine Doesn't Ensure Protection

Wed Dec 11, 5:48 PM ET Add Health - Reuters to My

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - An outbreak of chickenpox among a group of

children in New Hampshire shows that the virus that causes chickenpox

can be

highly infectious even among those who have been vaccinated, according

to a

new report.

Dr. Karin Galil of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news

-

web sites) in Atlanta, Georgia and colleagues report their findings in

the

December 12th issue of The New England Journal of Medicine (news - web

sites).

The researchers evaluated an outbreak of chickenpox, which is caused by

the

varicella virus, at a daycare center in New Hampshire. A total of 88

parents

returned a questionnaire that aimed to gauge prior chickenpox illness

and

vaccination among the children. In all, 25 children came down with

chickenpox between December 2000 and January 2001. The researchers

sourced

the outbreak to a 4-year-old child who had been vaccinated for

chickenpox 3

years prior to contracting the illness.

The child infected about half of his classmates who had no prior history

of

chickenpox infection. At the time of the outbreak, roughly 73% of kids

old

enough for chickenpox vaccine had received it, the report indicates.

" The effectiveness of the vaccine was 44% against disease of any

severity

and 86% against moderate or severe disease, " write Galil and colleagues.

Experts have estimated that the chickenpox vaccine is between 71% to

100%

effective at preventing varicella infection.

Children who had been vaccinated 3 years or more before the outbreak

were at

greater risk of vaccination failure than those who had been vaccinated

more

recently, they add.

On the surface it appears that immunity against chickenpox weakened as

time

passed after vaccination. However, the authors note that " the reasons

for

the poor performance of the vaccine are not apparent.

" Although policy cannot be established on the basis of one outbreak, the

findings in this investigation raise concern that the current

vaccination

strategy may not protect all children adequately, " the authors write.

Nonetheless, the investigators point out that the illness is much less

of a

threat today than it was before the era of chickenpox vaccination, when

there were roughly 11,000 hospitalizations and 100 deaths from the

disease

annually.

" Vaccination remains the most effective strategy for protecting children

and

adults against illness and death due to varicella, " Galil and colleagues

conclude.

Current guidelines call for one dose of chickenpox vaccine for children

between the ages of 1 and 12 years and two doses of vaccine for people

over

13.

" It has long been known...that 'breakthrough' varicella may nevertheless

develop in 10 to 15 percent of vaccinated persons, " Dr. Anne A. Gershon

of

Columbia University in New York City writes in an accompanying

editorial.

Gershon suggests that a second dose of chickenpox vaccine " should

decrease

the number of children who have...vaccine failure and might also prevent

waning immunity, if it does indeed currently occur. "

What's more, Gershon points out that it eventually took the routine

administration of two doses of measles vaccine to control measles in the

US.

" The time for exploring the possibility of routinely administering two

doses

of varicella vaccine to children seems to have arrived, " Gershon

concludes.

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[Guest guest]

I would like to get some advice on whether the chicken pox vaccine is

safe for our kids. Also whether the Hib is safe for our kids. I have not

given any since my son was diagnosed and since I am travelling soon I

have been adviced to give both of those.

My daughter (typically developing) is 18 mos and hasn't been given the

Dtap either. Are any of you parents giving these shots to your normal

kids? I hate to use the word normal or not, but just for convenience I

have used it here:)

Please respond as I have 4 weeks to tackle these issues before our long

awaited vacation.

I must also post here that we are now in dispute situation with our

school district over payment of private autistic school based on verbal

behavior method and it has been a long journey like everything else. We

are close to mediation and hope and pray we settle.

Thanks in advance

Sara Suresh

[Guest guest]

Hi -

The Hib is very safe - don't hesitate to get that one.

The DTaP is supposed to be, but my youngest son

reacted pretty badly to the first DTaP and to the

second (we just had the DT second time), so I have

delayed getting the 3rd. However, Dr G says that he

should have it and is comfortable with him getting it

- I have resisted because I don't know why he screamed

for 8 hours post-vacc - so Dr G suggested I see an

immunologist to let him determine if it was safe to

give to my youngest.

My oldest son has had all of his vaccinations. My

second son is still pending the 3rd DT and the MMR.

He will not get the chicken pox vaccine - Dr G is

against that one, since it is a herpes virus and human

herpes viruses (or perhaps rather the immune reaction

TO those viruses) are implicated in .

I would recommend skipping the chicken pox - it's not

the end of the world if he gets them as long as he's

relatively healthy. The DTaP - in the case of

traveling - would be better than getting Pertussis

(sp?) for sure. If your child is on the Do's and

Don'ts of Diet and is sick with any infections, he/she

should be able to handle them okay.

Has your daughter had other vaccines? Did she show

any major reactions to them in the past? If not, I

would not be too terribly concerned - if she seems in

good health. The DTP requires 3 shots, though. You

can't (really shouldn't) do that in 4 weeks. Will 1

shot be sufficient to give some immunity? The Hib is

fine to give in conjunction with the DTaP by the way -

but I wouldn't give any additional ones with it.

Also, you give Tylenol before the immunization, and

continue it for the next 24 hours.

best of luck-

--- Sara Suresh <sidman1@...> wrote:

> I would like to get some advice on whether the

> chicken pox vaccine is

> safe for our kids. Also whether the Hib is safe for

> our kids. I have not

> given any since my son was diagnosed and since I am

> travelling soon I

> have been adviced to give both of those.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sara,

In addition to what posted on the chicken pox vaccine, I just want

to add one more thing that Dr. G said to me... that when a boy (not sure if

it would be different for girls) gets to adolescence and has still not

contracted the chicken pox naturally, then you should consider the vaccine

because of complications that can stem from contracting chicken pox at that

age (I know one complication can be sterility).

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Dr. Goldberg doesn't recommend kids having the chicken pox vaccine... he

prefers to wait and see if the kids get it on their own (thus delaying their

exposure to the virus for as long as possible) ... then treat quickly and

aggressively. I think it's really the only vaccine he has a problem with...

I guess due to the fact that it is a herpes virus. He does alter the

vaccine schedule for other vaccines... a very practical schedule if you ask

me.

He told me that once the unvaccinated kids get older (and I can't remember

if this is girls or just boys) he does recommend the chicken pox vaccine

then, because of the complications it can cause then. I'm thinking that by

older he meant at puberty... if anyone else can be more specific please

help.

Chickenpox infection in a pregnant mother can result in birth defects

involving the baby and in adult males can result in sterility.

By the way, I just pulled the below from the CDC's chicken pox page...

The link to the main chicken pox page is...

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/varicella/

.... the below was found by clicking the " vaccine related questions " link

No vaccine is 100% effective in preventing disease. For chickenpox vaccine,

about 8 to 9 out of every 10 people who are vaccinated are completely

protected from chickenpox. The vaccine almost always prevents against severe

disease. If a vaccinated person does get chickenpox, it is usually a very

mild case with fewer skin lesions (usually less than 50) lasting only a few

days, no fever or a low fever, and few other symptoms.

.... and also...

" Is there anyone who should not receive the chickenpox vaccine?

Yes, certain persons should not receive the chickenpox vaccine. These

persons are those who:

....(Have) a disease that depresses cellular immune function....

.... so Dr. Goldberg is right on target with his recommendation for our kids

not to have this vaccine.

Caroline

> From: Kristy Nardini <krnardini@...>

> Reply-< >

> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:58:28 -0700

> < >

> Subject: RE: Chicken Pox and Famvir

>

>

> Rhoda and Staci,

>

> I'm wondering if your sons were vaccinated against chicken pox? Because I

> have heard that they can still get chicken pox even if vaccinated.

>

> I have also heard that it's not such a bad thing to get chicken pox, and

> that it can prevent worse virus outbreaks (like shingles) in adulthood. Does

> anyone have info on this?

>

> Kristy