Guest guest Posted December 1, 2001 Report Share Posted December 1, 2001 Hello all: I still remember my mom giving me cod liver oil daily as a child in England, oooh...nasty stuff it was! I subscribe to consumerlabs.com, an independent testing site for vitamins and supplements. Their most recent report was on EPA/DHA supplements, and in the body of the report is the quote, " Be aware that cod liver oil is not a good substitute for fish oil supplements, because it is high in Vitamin A and D. Because these vitamins can be toxic, make sure that you do not exceed safe levels. " I note this because some people take high amounts of cod liver oil to combat other physical issues. As long as you stay within recommended dosages, you are fine, but if you are taking large doses for health reasons, better check out other fish oils. Consumer Labs is a great place to start (and no, I don't work for them!), as well as http://www.tnp.com/encyclopedia/substance/126/. Shalom Carol in SE Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 The toxic dose of cod liver oil is 6 tablespoons!!--and even at this dose, any effects quickly resolve with discontinuance. The scare tactics against vitamins A and D are some of the most shameful in the history of medicine.Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 I want to address the fear of vitamins D and A toxicity. If you read http://sunlightandvitamind.com/, http://www.westonaprice.org/nutrition_guidelines/nutrition_vitaminD.html, and http://www.dcnutrition.com/news/Detail.CFM?RecordNumber=575, you will probably begin to think that maybe vitamin D is not as toxic as we are accustomed to believe. Also, at http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic638.htm, I read this about vitamin A: " Acute toxic dose is 25,000 IU/kg, and chronic toxic dose is 4000 IU/kg every day for 6-15 months. " That would make 1,625,000 IU (acute) and 260,000 IU (chronic) for a 65 kg (143 lb) person. That is so much more that the 5,000 IU RDA! However, the same document says " Fish-liver oils may contain more than 180,000 IU/g. " If that is correct (I haven't seen oils like that yet), then 1 tsp can contain quite a lot of vit. A. Roman --- Carol <cdentons@...> wrote: > Hello all: > > I still remember my mom giving me cod liver oil > daily as a child in England, > oooh...nasty stuff it was! > > I subscribe to consumerlabs.com, an independent > testing site for vitamins and > supplements. Their most recent report was on > EPA/DHA supplements, and in the > body of the report is the quote, " Be aware that cod > liver oil is not a good > substitute for fish oil supplements, because it is > high in Vitamin A and D. > Because these vitamins can be toxic, make sure that > you do not exceed safe > levels. " I note this because some people take high > amounts of cod liver oil > to combat other physical issues. As long as you > stay within recommended > dosages, you are fine, but if you are taking large > doses for health reasons, > better check out other fish oils. Consumer Labs is > a great place to start > (and no, I don't work for them!), as well as > http://www.tnp.com/encyclopedia/substance/126/. > > Shalom > Carol in SE Illinois > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 >Mercola vouches for the quality of 's who I believe is put >out by twinlab. Actually, his current recommendation is Carlson's. Dunno whether he's tested it for mercury, though. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Hi, Dr. Marasco, >>as a rule of thumb I wouldn't touch a Twinlab product with a 10 foot pole. I'm not that familiar with TwinLab, so I was wondering why? I run a natural foods co-op and have people asking my knowledge on different brands, so I am very curious about your sepcific concerns. Thanks! ine Sternick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 They just don't put out a particularly good product. I can't speak for their entire line, however as far as I am aware it is exclusively synthetic, expensive and worthless in comparison to other companies that produce a far superior product. All the companies I mentioned in the previous post are far superior. So much so, to compare them would be like comparing a ferrari to a tricycle. They aren't even in the same game. Twinlab is for the guy who reads an article in muscle and fitness and wants to buy some " aminos " , the others are for people who are genuinely interested in their diet and their well being. Unfortunately I can say this for most of the most commonly available and marketed supplement products. Sincerely, Dr. Marasco,BS,DC Cincinnati, Oh --- In @y..., " Food From Afar " <foodfromafar@c...> wrote: > Hi, Dr. Marasco, > > >>as a rule of thumb I wouldn't touch a Twinlab product with a 10 foot pole. > > I'm not that familiar with TwinLab, so I was wondering why? I run a natural > foods co-op and have people asking my knowledge on different brands, so I am > very curious about your sepcific concerns. > > Thanks! > ine Sternick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 >> Capsules are perfectly fine as long as you take enough. I have trouble swallowing too many pills, though, so I take a tablespoon of Carlson's lemon flavored cod liver oil. << How many caps to get the equivalent of a tablespoon? ~ Carma ~ To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured, and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 >How many caps to get the equivalent of a tablespoon? That I couldn't tell you, but a tablespoon of Carlson's has 6000-7500 IU of vitamin A, 1200-1500 IU of vitamin D, 135 calories (all from fat), 3 IU of vitamin E, 1500-1650mg of DHA, 1380-1500mg of EPA, and 138-150mg of ALA, so you'd just take enough caps to give you the same dosage, or whatever dosage you want. The label also says it's regularly tested and found to be free of detectable levels of mercury, lead and so on. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 In our cod liver oil, two caps equals one serving of the liquid. Ours is the most nutrient-dense we have found of any brand out there. One teaspoon has 5750 IU of vitamin A, 575 IU of vitamin D, 270 mg of EPA, and 264 mg of DHA. To get the tablespoon values, multiply by three. This cod liver oil tastes pretty darn good compared to most I've tried, which is an indication of freshness, and it is tested regularly for contaminants like mercury (and it is clean). It is uncommon to find a grade this good in this country, whereas in Norway this is the only grade the people take. They wouldn't think of taking the top of the barrel cod oil which is considered animal feed grade, and which is sold to many American companies. That stuff is much less nutrient-dense, and any toxins tend to concentrate there at the top. Best, > > >How many caps to get the equivalent of a tablespoon? > > That I couldn't tell you, but a tablespoon of Carlson's has 6000- 7500 IU of > vitamin A, 1200-1500 IU of vitamin D, 135 calories (all from fat), 3 IU of > vitamin E, 1500-1650mg of DHA, 1380-1500mg of EPA, and 138-150mg of ALA, so > you'd just take enough caps to give you the same dosage, or whatever dosage > you want. > > The label also says it's regularly tested and found to be free of > detectable levels of mercury, lead and so on. > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 I wouldn't say it isn't hard to take. I would suggest having some water on hand to swallow immediately after the cod liver oil. I took water to begin with and had no trouble though I think it smells disgusting. I made the mistake of trying to just swallow it once and threw up very soon afterwards. I couldn't get to a drink soon enough. The oil texture in your mouth is horrible. If you are at all sensitive to stuff like that have something on hand. The " flavor " isn't really a flavor either it is just a faint scent in along with the " cod " smell. UGhhh!! I AM taking my cod liver oil but it just makes me sick thinking about it. I put it off all day.... Marcella >From: Idol <Idol@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil >Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 18:15:07 -0500 > >Capsules are perfectly fine as long as you take enough. I have trouble >swallowing too many pills, though, so I take a tablespoon of Carlson's >lemon flavored cod liver oil. I get it at the Vitamin Shoppe, though not >all of them stock it all the time, and though it smells like fish oil, it >doesn't smell spoiled in the least and it's not hard to take. (I did get a >bad bottle once, from Fairway of all places.) Carlson's also makes >capsules. > > > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Dear , Mix the clo with a little water or fresh orange juice. Then it is easy to take. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 --- Marcella Mathewes <honoraholmes@...> wrote: >The " flavor " isn't really a flavor either it > is just a faint scent in > along with the " cod " smell. UGhhh!! I AM taking my > cod liver oil but it just > makes me sick thinking about it. I put it off all > day.... I feel the same way, it literally makes me gag, and I can't get the smell out of my nose for hours (even the stuff from Radiant Life, which is what I use). Liver elicits the same response in me, to a lesser degree. I remember liking the taste of CLO as a kid, but now - eeewww. I've wondered if that could mean my body doesn't want it (that instinct thing), but I think it's just an acquired prejudice on the part of my taste buds. I do take it, when I remember - IN CAPSULES. Marcella, it's worth the extra money for caps, for people like us who are squeamish about the flavor. My toddler likes the taste of the oil, which is good because he's not old enough to swallow caps. Aubin __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2002 Report Share Posted February 10, 2002 Hmm, I don't have any trouble with Carlson's -- unless the bottle's bad, in which case it smells like bad fish instead of lemon-scented fresh fish. I typically take a tablespoon, hold it under my tongue for a minute, swallow, then have a bowl of yoghurt or eggs with cheese. I don't have any high-vitamin butter oil, so I figure at least I'll get *some* butterfat with my cod liver oil that way. <g> I can't usually tolerate unpleasant smells and tastes too easily, so I wonder whether you're just getting bad oil, but then again, it's probably more likely that I just happen to have an easier time with this particular thing. >I wouldn't say it isn't hard to take. I would suggest having some water on >hand to swallow immediately after the cod liver oil. I took water to begin >with and had no trouble though I think it smells disgusting. I made the >mistake of trying to just swallow it once and threw up very soon afterwards. >I couldn't get to a drink soon enough. The oil texture in your mouth is >horrible. If you are at all sensitive to stuff like that have something on >hand. The " flavor " isn't really a flavor either it is just a faint scent in >along with the " cod " smell. UGhhh!! I AM taking my cod liver oil but it just >makes me sick thinking about it. I put it off all day.... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Women have more sensitive smell and I am also nursing so I have alot of the extra hormones like when you (or we)are pregnant. I think that is probably part of it. Marcella >From: Idol <Idol@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil >Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:46:53 -0500 > >Hmm, I don't have any trouble with Carlson's -- unless the bottle's bad, in >which case it smells like bad fish instead of lemon-scented fresh fish. > >I typically take a tablespoon, hold it under my tongue for a minute, >swallow, then have a bowl of yoghurt or eggs with cheese. I don't have any >high-vitamin butter oil, so I figure at least I'll get *some* butterfat >with my cod liver oil that way. <g> > >I can't usually tolerate unpleasant smells and tastes too easily, so I >wonder whether you're just getting bad oil, but then again, it's probably >more likely that I just happen to have an easier time with this particular >thing. > > >I wouldn't say it isn't hard to take. I would suggest having some water >on > >hand to swallow immediately after the cod liver oil. I took water to >begin > >with and had no trouble though I think it smells disgusting. I made the > >mistake of trying to just swallow it once and threw up very soon >afterwards. > >I couldn't get to a drink soon enough. The oil texture in your mouth is > >horrible. If you are at all sensitive to stuff like that have something >on > >hand. The " flavor " isn't really a flavor either it is just a faint scent >in > >along with the " cod " smell. UGhhh!! I AM taking my cod liver oil but it >just > >makes me sick thinking about it. I put it off all day.... > > > >- > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 ---I too was a little worried about the taste of cod liver oil! I started with Carlson's Lemon Flavored (pending my first order form Radiant Life). It tasted great...all the kids took it no problem...even the 4 year old! The premier brand tastes stronger therefore as I wanted to ensure the kids would continue, I bought some " pure lemon oil " (Boyajian)...put it into a little dropper bottle)..then I line 3 shot glasses up, put the cod liver oil in, then a few drops of lemon oil and they gulp it down---they do not even need a water chaser! I too have started taking it this way. The 4 year old (boy) calls it his " muscle drink " sometimes he comes to me and asks for it!! Hope this helps! Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Dear , I tried taking the cod liver oil with orange juice or water and still had a hard time with it......really yucky. I bought some empty gel capsules at my food co-op and put the clo in them. Works fine for me. Carmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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