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Hello!

We've been with Dr G for almost 3 yrs. I've often commented on items

posted here.

We've had some nice things happen with our 7 yr old son .

But now I need some advice and comfort from the congregation of the

network.

In April, Dr G tried to wean off of the antiviral (blood tests

were looking good).

Within a month, 's sensitivity to sound reappeared (after a 2 yr

lull) and

he began to have other addtl sensory issues (flipping books more,

playing in sand,

more head pressing and need for sensory input). We flew out to see Dr G

in June

and he boosted the antiviral again. He also changed the SSRI from Celexa

to Zoloft.

Celexa had been a godsend 1.5 yrs earlier after nasty trials with Prozac

and Paxil.

My brother is on Zoloft and does well. We figured that 'family bond'

might

be a good indicator that Zoloft might do well with . In August

started

with 3/4 pill Zoloft. As you can guess, we had a rough 5-6 wks until the

dose

took affect. Extra energy; agitated; OCD upped a little esp for toilet

flushing.

At the end of Sept, Dr G asked us to began the alternating 3/4-1 pill

schedule.

Toilet OCD continued and it became more aggressive. Biting and

scratching have

raised their ugly heads. We haven't seen this pair since we removed

casein

from his diet (casein sends off the wall).

We're at our whits end. has become very aggressive esp in school

and

with toilet flushing. We stopped the ABA program in Sept (after 3.5

yrs).

We are currently using a behaviorist to learn how to deal with his

behavior (we don't know what is typical behavior and what is socially

unacceptable behavior). We told Dr G all of this at the last tele

consult and he feels it's a

discipline problem. At this point, I don't feel it is.I think it's the

Zoloft. I see go

from Jekyll to Hyde at a flush of a toilet or when a demand is placed

upon him.

I have marks on my hands where he's bitten and scratched me.

did have a sinus infection about 1.5 wks ago. Dr G feels this may

be influencing or affecting his mood.

My first thought is to call the office again on Monday and tell them

again

what's going on. I'd rather have be on Celexa and be semi

unfocused

that be on Zoloft and use people as chew toys.

Have any of you had this experience on Zoloft? did you wait it out?

how long did it take? I don't think Zoloft has lactose - I've heard

Paxil and Celexa do.

I " ve been doing some research on Zoloft and am quite concern about what

I'm reading.

Is this the storm before the calm?

Any advice is welcomed as this has me very depressed.

doris

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doris, you see you child every day and you have a much better sense of this than

Dr. G . We had a similar experience and I regret we dragged out a trial of

celexa with geoges for over three months when it was evident from one week that

we were off course. Zoloft was also a nightmare for us. Let's face it when the

anger, obessesions and tensions are that high there is not a chance in hell

is going to be learning. Be insistent. Good luck.

zoloft and aggression

Hello!

We've been with Dr G for almost 3 yrs. I've often commented on items

posted here.

We've had some nice things happen with our 7 yr old son .

But now I need some advice and comfort from the congregation of the

network.

In April, Dr G tried to wean off of the antiviral (blood tests

were looking good).

Within a month, 's sensitivity to sound reappeared (after a 2 yr

lull) and

he began to have other addtl sensory issues (flipping books more,

playing in sand,

more head pressing and need for sensory input). We flew out to see Dr G

in June

and he boosted the antiviral again. He also changed the SSRI from Celexa

to Zoloft.

Celexa had been a godsend 1.5 yrs earlier after nasty trials with Prozac

and Paxil.

My brother is on Zoloft and does well. We figured that 'family bond'

might

be a good indicator that Zoloft might do well with . In August

started

with 3/4 pill Zoloft. As you can guess, we had a rough 5-6 wks until the

dose

took affect. Extra energy; agitated; OCD upped a little esp for toilet

flushing.

At the end of Sept, Dr G asked us to began the alternating 3/4-1 pill

schedule.

Toilet OCD continued and it became more aggressive. Biting and

scratching have

raised their ugly heads. We haven't seen this pair since we removed

casein

from his diet (casein sends off the wall).

We're at our whits end. has become very aggressive esp in school

and

with toilet flushing. We stopped the ABA program in Sept (after 3.5

yrs).

We are currently using a behaviorist to learn how to deal with his

behavior (we don't know what is typical behavior and what is socially

unacceptable behavior). We told Dr G all of this at the last tele

consult and he feels it's a

discipline problem. At this point, I don't feel it is.I think it's the

Zoloft. I see go

from Jekyll to Hyde at a flush of a toilet or when a demand is placed

upon him.

I have marks on my hands where he's bitten and scratched me.

did have a sinus infection about 1.5 wks ago. Dr G feels this may

be influencing or affecting his mood.

My first thought is to call the office again on Monday and tell them

again

what's going on. I'd rather have be on Celexa and be semi

unfocused

that be on Zoloft and use people as chew toys.

Have any of you had this experience on Zoloft? did you wait it out?

how long did it take? I don't think Zoloft has lactose - I've heard

Paxil and Celexa do.

I " ve been doing some research on Zoloft and am quite concern about what

I'm reading.

Is this the storm before the calm?

Any advice is welcomed as this has me very depressed.

doris

land

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Hi Doris,

I sure am sorry. From your post it looked like the problem was more about

the antivirals that the SSRI's. I don't know a lot about how SSRI's work,

but can't you just switch back to Celexa? I would fax the office first thing

Monday.

zoloft and aggression

> Hello!

> We've been with Dr G for almost 3 yrs. I've often commented on items

> posted here.

> We've had some nice things happen with our 7 yr old son .

> But now I need some advice and comfort from the congregation of the

> network.

> In April, Dr G tried to wean off of the antiviral (blood tests

> were looking good).

> Within a month, 's sensitivity to sound reappeared (after a 2 yr

> lull) and

> he began to have other addtl sensory issues (flipping books more,

> playing in sand,

> more head pressing and need for sensory input). We flew out to see Dr G

> in June

> and he boosted the antiviral again. He also changed the SSRI from Celexa

> to Zoloft.

> Celexa had been a godsend 1.5 yrs earlier after nasty trials with Prozac

> and Paxil.

> My brother is on Zoloft and does well. We figured that 'family bond'

> might

> be a good indicator that Zoloft might do well with . In August

> started

> with 3/4 pill Zoloft. As you can guess, we had a rough 5-6 wks until the

> dose

> took affect. Extra energy; agitated; OCD upped a little esp for toilet

> flushing.

> At the end of Sept, Dr G asked us to began the alternating 3/4-1 pill

> schedule.

> Toilet OCD continued and it became more aggressive. Biting and

> scratching have

> raised their ugly heads. We haven't seen this pair since we removed

> casein

> from his diet (casein sends off the wall).

> We're at our whits end. has become very aggressive esp in school

> and

> with toilet flushing. We stopped the ABA program in Sept (after 3.5

> yrs).

> We are currently using a behaviorist to learn how to deal with his

> behavior (we don't know what is typical behavior and what is socially

> unacceptable behavior). We told Dr G all of this at the last tele

> consult and he feels it's a

> discipline problem. At this point, I don't feel it is.I think it's the

> Zoloft. I see go

> from Jekyll to Hyde at a flush of a toilet or when a demand is placed

> upon him.

> I have marks on my hands where he's bitten and scratched me.

> did have a sinus infection about 1.5 wks ago. Dr G feels this may

> be influencing or affecting his mood.

>

> My first thought is to call the office again on Monday and tell them

> again

> what's going on. I'd rather have be on Celexa and be semi

> unfocused

> that be on Zoloft and use people as chew toys.

>

> Have any of you had this experience on Zoloft? did you wait it out?

> how long did it take? I don't think Zoloft has lactose - I've heard

> Paxil and Celexa do.

> I " ve been doing some research on Zoloft and am quite concern about what

> I'm reading.

> Is this the storm before the calm?

>

> Any advice is welcomed as this has me very depressed.

>

> doris

> land

>

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

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In a message dated 11/8/02 11:47:33 PM Central Standard Time,

sjsmith@... writes:

> " ve been doing some research on Zoloft and am quite concern about what

> I'm reading.

> Is this the storm before the calm?

>

Doris,

I would expect after 5-6 weeks that the " storm " would be cleared. Maybe the

zoloft just doesn't agree with him. I know my typical daughter's behavior

went out of control on celexa, because it did not agree with her. She

developed sound sensitivity and a lot of sensory problems, and at times

appeared to have a lot of the symptoms of autism, although she is not

autistic.

My son does wonderfully on zoloft, but all kids are different. Matching the

right ssri with the child can be tough. It would be interesting to see what

happens if you took the SSRI away, or changed it, for a few weeks.

Sharon :-)

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Hi Dorris,

I just went thru the exact same issues with my son and zoloft. We finally

took him off of it about 1 month ago and I have my bright, sweet child back

again. What a nightmare! It seemed at first the med was working (less OCD,

spaciness, more pretend play) and then slowly things got way out of control.

Kellen stopped using the toilet, starting hitting me (something he has NEVER,

EVER done), started running away from me, getting out of bed and running

around like crazy, become completely unfocused, and became even more spacy!!

He became very disobediant (doing the opposite of everything we would say or

ask of him)!!

I am kicking myself that I didn't realize sooner this was the zoloft (Dr. G

also thought it was more of a developmental, discipline issue) but now after

having him off the meds for a month I am 100% certain.

yea, we are even starting to use the potty again. Dr. G said on our last

visit that Kellen might be one of those kids that the SSRI just doesn't work

for. (This was our 3rd Paxil, celexa, zoloft) Kel is doing so much better

right now I don't think I will ever go down the SSRI path for him again!! I

am sure it works beautifully for a lot of the kids but just wanted you to

know we had a real rough go of it and now we are doing much better and back

on track!!

Good luck, trust your instincts!!

a

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