Guest guest Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Rosie,Tell this mom to hold on and get specific testing done to rule out 's disease. 's disease IS NOT common in children with autism. this woman has been misinformed. 's is a RARE GENETIC disorder. I have put information about 's below my post. I know what you and this other parent are going through. This is because years ago (in 2002) A doctor also frightened me with the thought of 's. This is because what IS COMMON in many children with autism IS abnormal mineral transport and a tendency for an abnormal copper/zinc ratio in the body. My son's copper was very high post vaccine-triggered regression. The toxins in the vaccines made my son's biochemistry go hay-wire. His copper spiked and his body also started leaching calcium from his teeth. Neither my husband or I carry the faulty gene for 's, and as you will read below, even if both parents carry the gene, there is still only a 25% chance one of their off-spring will have it. So both of you mothers need to have the proper testing done on the parents and the children to see if it is truly 's. Now when doctor's test and find that children with autism have high copper ratios, then 's MUST be ruled out. It is a little harder to manage this genetic disease than it is to treat the abnormal copper/zinc ratios seen in children with autism. This being said, it IS very important, I think, for every child with autism to be tested for high copper because high copper levels in the body CAN do damage to the liver and even permanent damage to the brain, so even in children with autism, this is one of the first things you should do. In children with autism, the problem is usually corrected easily with additional zinc supplementation. The amount will vary from child to child, and it is up to a good physician who understands this syndrome in autism to work with you to decide the course of treatment. At one time, my son was on two different forms of zinc at the same time. He has been on zinc supplementation since he was two years old. (he's now 10.5), so this can be an ongoing problem in children with autism. Get the child's copper level checked as young as possible, and then follow the doctor's orders. But again, to reiterate: the abnormal copper-zinc ratio seen in autism is not usually due to 's --BUT 's MUST be ruled out if the copper levels are high. Be sure this other parent is working with a doctor knowledgeable about autism and not just your run of the mill pediatrician who really knows very little about the biochemistry of autism. (I suggest a DAN! physician). Again, it is my firm belief that every child with autism have their copper/zinc levels checked as early as possible. There could be many of these kiddos walking around out there with copper levels that can do further harm to their bodies. The last thing a child with autism needs is further damage to the liver or brain due to high copper levels. In order for it to be truly 's disease, the genetic component must be present. I hope the following information helps:Overview 's disease is an inherited disorder in which there is too much copper in the body's tissues. The excess copper damages the liver and nervous system. SymptomsCauses 's disease is a rare inherited disorder. If both parents carry an abnormal gene for 's disease, there is a 25% chance in each pregnancy that the child will have the disorder.'s disease causes the body to take in and keep too much copper. The copper deposits in the liver, brain, kidneys, and the eyes. The deposits of copper cause tissue damage, death of the tissues, and scarring, which causes the affected organs to stop working correctly.This condition is most common in eastern Europeans, Sicilians, and southern Italians, but may occur in any group. 's disease typically appears in people under 40 years old. In children, the symptoms begin to show by age 4. Tests & diagnosis A slit-lamp eye examination may show:Limited eye movementRusty or brown-colored ring around the iris (Kayser-Fleischer rings)A physical examination may show signs of:Damage to the central nervous system, including loss of coordination, loss of muscle control, muscle tremors, loss of thinking and intellectual functions, loss of memory, and confusion (delirium or dementia).Liver or spleen disorders (including cirrhosis and liver necrosis)Lab tests may include:Complete blood count (CBC)Serum ceruloplasminSerum copperSerum uric acidUrine copperIf there are liver problems, lab tests may find:High AST and ALTHigh bilirubin High PT and PTTLow albuminOther tests may include:24-hour urine copper testAbdominal x-rayAbdominal MRICT scan of the abdomenHead CT scanHead MRILiver biopsyThe gene responsible for 's disease has been found. It is called ATP7B. DNA testing is available for this gene. However, testing is complicated because different ethnic groups may have different changes (mutations) in this gene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Rosie I sure couldn't have said it better than Haven.....but that is exactly what I wanted to share with you also. Once an issue for my son....no longer. Watch all supplements...many contain copper. Carob an example of a food high in copper. Zinc supplementation important. > > Rosie, > > Tell this mom to hold on and get specific testing done to rule out 's > disease. 's disease IS NOT common in children with autism. this > woman has been misinformed. 's is a RARE GENETIC disorder. I have > put information about 's below my post. I know what you and this > other parent are going through. This is because years ago (in 2002) A > doctor also frightened me with the thought of 's. > > This is because what IS COMMON in many children with autism IS abnormal > mineral transport and a tendency for an abnormal copper/zinc ratio in the > body. My son's copper was very high post vaccine-triggered regression. The > toxins in the vaccines made my son's biochemistry go hay-wire. His copper > spiked and his body also started leaching calcium from his teeth. Neither > my husband or I carry the faulty gene for 's, and as you will read > below, even if both parents carry the gene, there is still only a 25% chance > one of their off-spring will have it. So both of you mothers need to have > the proper testing done on the parents and the children to see if it is > truly 's. > > Now when doctor's test and find that children with autism have high copper > ratios, then 's MUST be ruled out. It is a little harder to manage > this genetic disease than it is to treat the abnormal copper/zinc ratios > seen in children with autism. > > This being said, it IS very important, I think, for every child with autism > to be tested for high copper because high copper levels in the body CAN do > damage to the liver and even permanent damage to the brain, so even in > children with autism, this is one of the first things you should do. > > In children with autism, the problem is usually corrected easily with > additional zinc supplementation. The amount will vary from child to child, > and it is up to a good physician who understands this syndrome in autism to > work with you to decide the course of treatment. At one time, my son was on > two different forms of zinc at the same time. He has been on zinc > supplementation since he was two years old. (he's now 10.5), so this can be > an ongoing problem in children with autism. Get the child's copper level > checked as young as possible, and then follow the doctor's orders. > > But again, to reiterate: the abnormal copper-zinc ratio seen in autism is > not usually due to 's --BUT 's MUST be ruled out if the copper > levels are high. Be sure this other parent is working with a doctor > knowledgeable about autism and not just your run of the mill pediatrician > who really knows very little about the biochemistry of autism. (I suggest a > DAN! physician). > > Again, it is my firm belief that every child with autism have their > copper/zinc levels checked as early as possible. There could be many of > these kiddos walking around out there with copper levels that can do further > harm to their bodies. The last thing a child with autism needs is further > damage to the liver or brain due to high copper levels. In order for it to > be truly 's disease, the genetic component must be present. > > I hope the following information helps: > > > Overview > > 's disease is an inherited disorder in which there is too much copper > in the body's tissues. The excess copper damages the liver and nervous > system. > Symptoms > > Causes > > 's disease is a rare inherited disorder. If both parents carry an > abnormal gene for 's disease, there is a 25% chance in each pregnancy > that the child will have the disorder. > > 's disease causes the body to take in and keep too much copper. The > copper deposits in the liver, brain, kidneys, and the eyes. The deposits of > copper cause tissue damage, death of the tissues, and scarring, which causes > the affected organs to stop working correctly. > > This condition is most common in eastern Europeans, Sicilians, and southern > Italians, but may occur in any group. 's disease typically appears in > people under 40 years old. In children, the symptoms begin to show by age 4. > Tests & diagnosis > > A slit-lamp eye examination may show: > > - Limited eye movement > - Rusty or brown-colored ring around the iris (Kayser-Fleischer rings) > > A physical examination may show signs of: > > - Damage to the central nervous system, including loss of coordination, > loss of muscle control, muscle tremors, loss of thinking and intellectual > functions, loss of memory, and confusion (delirium or dementia). > - Liver or spleen disorders (including > cirrhosis<https://health.google.com/health/ref/Cirrhosis>and liver > necrosis) > > Lab tests may include: > > - Complete blood count (CBC) > - Serum ceruloplasmin > - Serum copper > - Serum uric acid > - Urine copper > > If there are liver problems, lab tests may find: > > - High AST and ALT > - High bilirubin > - High PT and PTT > - Low albumin > > Other tests may include: > > - 24-hour urine copper test > - Abdominal x-ray > - Abdominal MRI > - CT scan of the abdomen > - Head CT scan > - Head MRI > - Liver biopsy > > The gene responsible for 's disease has been found. It is called > ATP7B. DNA testing is available for this gene. However, testing is > complicated because different ethnic groups may have different changes > (mutations) in this gene. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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