Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 > > >I would only use the cream, or piece of scoby if the skin is not broken in > >any way. I have varicose veins, very bad ones in one leg. When I had an > >accident with it and the skin got broken I immediately put a scoby on it, > >but found that it aggravated the situation and make the whole surrounding > >area break out in sores. > > > >This might not have been the Kombucha's fault, but when the skin is very > >fragile, as mine is, intense contact acidity might not be a good idea. > > > >Anyway, now, having recovered completely, I use KT tonic to rub the skin, > >gently massaging all varicose parts. I have no pain in my legs now and I > >hope it's not only wishful thinking: The skin is so much improved. > > Reading this again recently got me thinking, and I was struck with why the > cream or SCOBY application caused flesh erosion. It's the very same reason > why external applications have been getting rid of the benign skin bumps on > my nose. It's very simple. > > Each form of external application has particular characteristics that make > them better for certain applications and less ideal for others. Once this > is understood, however, it's easy to modify the application of any external > form to help a given problem. > > For example, I experience the KT cream (when stored as I do, by keeping it > alive and moist with KT) to be the most intense external application for > problems on unbroken skin (as opposed to cuts, ulcers, or wounds). If > applied as a facial, it peels the dead skin off in short order. If applied > to irregularities in the skin, bumps and so forth, it has the potential for > peeling the skin back far enough to get rid of such things, but it may take > a series of applications since if the bumps are deep seated there will have > to be interim healing of the area between intense treatments. In my > experience the cream does not affect normal skin, only problems (on > unbroken skin). > > The healing process from the intense use of KT cream was very similar to > that of healing from a previous experience in which a highly killed plastic > surgeon removed some of the bumps (which tend to keep reproducing once a > person manifests them, but more on that later). So, it is my opinion that > KT cream is best used in a 12/7 or 24/7 heavily applied manner with > conditions that need dissolving or breaking down; or, for the relief of > temporary skin conditions such as hives, bites, etc., as short- term-- 3-4 > times a day or less as needed. > > The use of whole SCOBYs, it seems to me, has a deeper, less skin- deep > effect. For example I recently described having wrapped my knee with a big > one, using a wide ace bandage gently wrapped, which relieved the pain I was > experiencing that was keeping me awake (on this occasion the SCOBY were > only in place about 4 hours). It improved the pain so that I could perform > two days later with my band as I do, on inline skates. I have also used > thin pieces of SCOBY torn off and laid as a mask on the skin bumps, it > adheres well on its own and dries there. I alternated that mode with the > KT cream mode on my nose some, just naturally doing what felt right. My > impression is that the cream and the whole SCOBY were doing lightly > different things to the site of application, complementary > things. Nevertheless it's clear that the cream did the most peeling and > dissolving. (The SCOBY is good for a break from the intensity of the cream > while still continuing the treatment.) > > Last, we have the application of liquid kombucha tonic itself. This can be > thought of for uses such as antiseptic, linament, and can be used anywhere > the cream or whole SCOBY is used, again as a way to reduce intensity of > treatment while continuing forward with it. So, this makes a lot of sense > with the issue of a varicose vein that has ulcered (opened in a sore to the > surface) or has been abraded. The thing that is not needed with an ulcer > is dissolving of flesh. What is needed is an emollient, antiseptic, > nurturing film, which is exactly what KT tonic provides when gently applied > with the hand, a cotton ball, or a piece of flannel (refresh as needed). > > I theorize that if such an ulcer were heavily encrusted with poorly > scabbing material or if it had gotten dirty or was not healing well for any > reason, or if it were starting to show signs of infection, an initial rinse > with liquid KT and then heavy applications of KT cream would be indicated > until the surface looked moist and pink or red again, that is, use the > cream to clean up a sore or wound (only if necessary), otherwise use the > liquid tonic, as a general rule to get started with. Because such types of > problems don't need reduction of tissue, they need to be facilitated to > construct tissue. > > As I analyze the various uses to which I've put the three external > kombucha-application types, I see that this schema is a useful tool for > thinking about how to approach a given external health concern. > > KT cream: tissue reduction > KT liquid: tissue nurturance > whole SCOBY: muscoloskeletal issues, consolidation of gains in healing, > burn compress, bee stings and other insect bites, all-over skin tonic... > > I said at the beginning that once one understands this thinking, it is > possible to modulate one's use of any of them to achieve the other > needs. For instance if you needed cream but only had a whole SCOBY, if you > keep the SCOBY wet with liquid KT it will accelerate the process. If you > only have cream but need liquid, put the cream on for shorter periods, more > frequently. Don't allow to dry on. If you need liquid and only have a > SCOBY, then just wipe the area with the SCOBY and let dry. This to > illustrate that it's all relative to time. Since the liquid KT is really > the same thing biologically and chemically as the cream or the whole SCOBY, > using the cream or SCOBY is a way to accelerate the effects, thus > shortening the time necessary for resolution. > > Adjusting the time is important, so to achieve success watch external > applications carefully to get clues about changing the form of application > and time applied. > > I've been thinking about excema and psoriasis. I think these are > conditions that need both cream and liquid. Because the flakiness needs > dissolving, but the skin needs nurturance and building as well. So, during > the day one could use liquid, and at night use the cream. That works well > socially also. > > Kombucha is so considerate that way > > --V > > P.S. I think if one is treating a skin condition with cream or SCOBY that > a general practice of applying the liquid when not soaking the cream or > SCOBY on it would be beneficial. That's what I've been doing intuitively, > and it really helps. Then on occasion it would be, not putting anything > on, letting it breathe a day or two. > > Ah, and I said I'd get back to the repeated manifestation of the skin > bumps: it appears to me that we're beating back the bumps on all fronts: > eradication and prevention. > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > How long are you supposed to keep this stuff on? can you leave it on all day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 >How long are you supposed to keep this stuff on? >can you leave it on all day? If you put the liquid KT on, you wouldn't normally rinse it off special, you'd just leave it on until you washed again. With the KT cream, how long you leave it on has to do with what you're trying to do and your skin's sensitivity. I would highly recommend not putting the cream on for more than 15 minutes the first time. If all you want it a facial/dead cell removal, 15 minutes is plenty. If you're using it to reduce bumps or treat acne or something, it can be left on longer, but again it is highly recommended to increase in careful increments so that you can find out if your skin is going to be happy with it or not. I haven't put the cream all over my face and then slept with it or anything. It's only been on small areas with a particular treatment concept in mind. The cat-claw puncture wounds, I left a thin piece of SCOBY taped in place for 24 hours. Same with spider bites. HTH --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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