Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

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Oh, I also put Slippery Elm Powder in his juice once in a while (just open the

capsules and pour it in).

I think you must get a very high quality probiotic as they are not all made the

same. Unfortunately they are really pricey but the Natren's is the first one

I've seen any improvement with.

Wouldn't one teaspoon of the Natural Calm be about 205mg since it says three

teaspoons is 615mg? I have been communicating with our pediatrician and he says

this dosage is fine.

I can't believe how disruptive and destructive constipation can be. I nearly

break down and cry tears of joy everytime my son poops.

I wish everyone luck and patience in dealing with this.

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That is awesome . We're not having total success here just yet... my son, the one who had been on miralax, goes daily no problemo, but with my younger dd, something different is at the root of her constipation...but we are having IMPROVEMENT in stools with Culturelle probiotic that I got at our local walgreens, and Benefiber, and a little OxyPowder magnesium, and a Fiber Choice chewable, and a little ambrotose powder (one of those MLM marketing products that I had leftover in my cabinet from an earlier "try"). In the past, I had tried each of these things alone and nothing really good lasted, and the combination of all of these is giving her a normal looking stool for the first time in a long time. Prior to this we were getting tiny hard pellets when we'd use the babylax to stimulate a movement... now we are getting normal looking stools so our next step will be to wean off the babylax. I had been tryi!

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lactulose earlier last week (kristalose powder) and I don't know... I just thought I'd give some other things a try before going that route. I know the kristalose would soften things up, but I'd prefer not to have to use it every day if possible. So I may introduce it in small amounts to see if it will help get her to the point where she feels her own urge and get her off the babylax, but I was glad to find that there are combinations of other things that will get the stool soft and normal looking, too, besides the kristalose. I ordered some Juice Plus Fiber drink and that should be here soon and that may make a difference in getting the stool to come out daily/near daily, on her own too. I'm hopeful, at least. Although I must say that she is running a temp now and this is going to slow down our progress because I'm not going to be able to get enough liquid into her, etc. So I'll update in!

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of weeks. Also wanted to mention that for those not avoiding certain foods or ingredients, Dannon has a yogurt that contains a mix of probiotics. They are calling it "Bifidus Regularis" and they say it can help digestion and transit time, so it might be an option for some. I haven't read the full ingredient list to find out what else is in it. W Bitton wrote: Thanks to you guys, I purchased Natural Calm Magnesium and in conjunction with a series of probiotics (Natren Healthy Start System - Dairy-Free ) and periodic shakes (Peaceful Planet) with added flax fiber (FiberSmart by Renew Life), we have had amazing results. He started with a lot of the Magnesium and we are now doing 200mg every day (sometimes every other day if !

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it's getting real soft. He is passing huge soft but formed stool almost every day.Thank you all for your help. I don't presume to be done with this as he is still clearly ambivilant about pooping. But, he's been out of diapers for two weeks and I can see that he is finally making the connection.

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Hi --Culturelle is a pretty good probiotic... it's been used for years by many in the autism community and helps with getting bad bacteria levels down. It used to be available only online (that I know of) and then a couple of years ago I noticed that Walgreens started carrying it. It's not ideal in that probio's should be bought and shipped to you "cold" so I know that being on the store shelf at room temp it is losing some of it's potency. Where do you get your Natren's from? Can you tell us the name of it again--it might be in your other post but could you mention it again. Are you using the flavored natural calm's or the unflavored one? Do you find that it mixes well--does he taste it at all? Thanks, W Bitton wrote: Oh, I also put Slippery Elm Powder in his juice once in a while (just open the capsules and pour it in). I think you must get a very high quality probiotic as they are not all made the same. Unfortunately they are really pricey but the Natren's is the first one I've seen any improvement with.Wouldn't one teaspoon of the Natural Calm be about 205mg since it says three teaspoons is 615mg? I have been communicating with our pediatrician and he says this dosage is fine.I can't believe how disruptive and destructive constipation can be. I nearly break down and cry tears of joy everytime my son poops.I wish everyone luck and patience in dealing with this.

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Recently I saw Culturelle at "The Vitamin Shoppe" in their refrigerated section. I have ordered it online in the past from kirkman's lab.

Thanks,

S.

-----Original Message-----From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of m wSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:47 PMTo: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Hi --Culturelle is a pretty good probiotic... it's been used for years by many in the autism community and helps with getting bad bacteria levels down. It used to be available only online (that I know of) and then a couple of years ago I noticed that Walgreens started carrying it. It's not ideal in that probio's should be bought and shipped to you "cold" so I know that being on the store shelf at room temp it is losing some of it's potency. Where do you get your Natren's from? Can you tell us the name of it again--it might be in your other post but could you mention it again.

Are you using the flavored natural calm's or the unflavored one? Do you find that it mixes well--does he taste it at all?

Thanks,

W Bitton wrote:

Oh, I also put Slippery Elm Powder in his juice once in a while (just open the capsules and pour it in). I think you must get a very high quality probiotic as they are not all made the same. Unfortunately they are really pricey but the Natren's is the first one I've seen any improvement with.Wouldn't one teaspoon of the Natural Calm be about 205mg since it says three teaspoons is 615mg? I have been communicating with our pediatrician and he says this dosage is fine.I can't believe how disruptive and destructive constipation can be. I nearly break down and cry tears of joy everytime my son poops.I wish everyone luck and patience in dealing with this.

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I did not mean to imply that Culturelle is not good because I would have

absolutely no idea. I just wanted to highlight that quality matters. While I

love Trader Joes, I won't buy their probiotic (maybe I'm just a snob). The

product I got is Natren Healthy Start System - Dairy-Free (bought at Whole Foods

but you can look it up on-line), it is actually three different ones and I pour

about half a capsule of each in some apple juice plus some Vitamin Water (to

mask the taste) & with the unflavored Magnesium it goes down fine. But, it took

some experimenting to get it so that he would enjoy drinking it. I also add

probiotics to the shake I mentioned (sometimes I alternate days between the

shake and the magnesium).

Again, I have no idea about Culterelle, could be great. This is such a

relentless process of trial and error. It seems one persons cure does nothing

for another. Maybe trying different probiotics can help too. My instinct is that

one of the three Natren's called " digesta-lac " is doing the most. It is a guess

based on nothing but my gut feeling when I'm pouring it in to put a little more

(maybe it's the name).

Oh, trying to get some enzymes into him once in a while too.

Also, trying not to stress him out with all this stuff so I pack as much punch

as possible in one drink, have him start in the a.m. so he has all day to get

through it. Sometimes I put what he doesn't finish in the fridge because I'm

tired of badgering him to drink all of the time. Want to let him know that I

have faith in him and that he's alright. So, the drink tastes pretty good and

it's not correlated to his constipation problem.

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Hi --Culturelle is a pretty good probiotic... it's been used for years by many in the autism community and helps with getting bad bacteria levels down. It used to be available only online (that I know of) and then a couple of years ago I noticed that Walgreens started carrying it. It's not ideal in that probio's should be bought and shipped to you "cold" so I know that being on the store shelf at room temp it is losing some of it's potency. Where do you get your Natren's from? Can you tell us the name of it again--it might be in your other post but could you mention it again. Are you using the flavored natural calm's or the unflavored one? Do you find that it mixes well--does he taste it at all? Thanks, W Bitton wrote: Oh, I also put Slippery Elm Powder in his juice once in a while (just open the capsules and pour it in). I think you must get a very high quality probiotic as they are not all made the same. Unfortunately they are really pricey but the Natren's is the first one I've seen any improvement with.Wouldn't one teaspoon of the Natural Calm be about 205mg since it says three teaspoons is 615mg? I have been communicating with our pediatrician and he says this dosage is fine.I can't believe how disruptive and destructive constipation can be. I nearly break down and cry tears of joy everytime my son poops.I wish everyone luck and patience in dealing with this.

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Just wanted to mention that I've been giving Sammy the new Dannon yogurt (vanilla) since Saturday. One a day, except on Sunday he decided on two. Yogurt does not kick his milk allergies in (something about heat/cultures changing protein strand - same thing with aged/hard/cooked cheeses). Last night we had a beautiful blowout - think "Mommy, I got diarreah" - but I don't think it was total. He complained of a tummy ache later last night, something he does quite frequently. Usually right around his belly button. Supposedly there is "nothing wrong" (GI and GP). I'm thinking that maybe he has stomach aches because he withholds (I would too if everything I passed was like passing the empire state building), and then has to push so hard to get it out. Sometimes he pushes so hard he pukes, though that hasn't happened more than two or three times in the last year. I'll keep you guys posted about the Dannon experience (and to think that yesterday I skipped the benefiber in his juice). LISA and SAMMY m w wrote: That is awesome . We're not having total success here just yet... my son, the one who had been on miralax, goes daily no problemo, but with my younger dd, something different is at the root of her constipation...but we are having IMPROVEMENT in stools with Culturelle probiotic that I got at our local walgreens, and Benefiber, and a little OxyPowder magnesium, and a Fiber Choice chewable, and a little ambrotose powder (one of those MLM marketing products that I had leftover in my cabinet from an earlier "try"). In the past, I had tried each of these things

alone and nothing really good lasted, and the combination of all of these is giving her a normal looking stool for the first time in a long time. Prior to this we were getting tiny hard pellets when we'd use the babylax to stimulate a movement... now we are getting normal looking stools so our next step will be to wean off the babylax. I had been trying lactulose earlier last week (kristalose powder) and I don't know... I just thought I'd give some other things a try before going that route. I know the kristalose would soften things up, but I'd prefer not to have to use it every day if possible. So I may introduce it in small amounts to see if it will help get her to the point where she feels her own urge and get her off the babylax, but I was glad to find that there are combinations of other things that will get the stool soft and normal looking, too, besides the kristalose. I ordered some Juice

Plus Fiber drink and that should be here soon and that may make a difference in getting the stool to come out daily/near daily, on her own too. I'm hopeful, at least. Although I must say that she is running a temp now and this is going to slow down our progress because I'm not going to be able to get enough liquid into her, etc. So I'll update in a couple of weeks. Also wanted to mention that for those not avoiding certain foods or ingredients, Dannon has a yogurt that contains a mix of probiotics. They are calling it "Bifidus Regularis" and they say it can help digestion and transit time, so it might be an option for some. I haven't read the full ingredient list to find out what else is in it. W Bitton wrote: Thanks to you guys, I purchased Natural Calm Magnesium and in conjunction with a series of probiotics (Natren Healthy Start System - Dairy-Free ) and periodic shakes (Peaceful Planet) with added flax fiber (FiberSmart by Renew Life), we have had amazing results. He started with a lot of the Magnesium and we are now doing 200mg every day (sometimes every other day if I see it's getting real soft. He is passing huge soft but formed stool almost every day.Thank you all for your help. I don't presume to be done with this as he is still clearly ambivilant about pooping. But, he's been out of diapers for two weeks and I can see that he is finally making the connection. Yahoo! MailBring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

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Is he lactose intolerant? sounds like it if he eats a yougart and then has blow outs. This happens to me. I can't do most dairy and later I have horrid stomach aches.

if he continues to have these aches after eating dairy I'd stop. it's not good for the system and it does rob the body vitamins, electroylytes (sp?), etc.

Also dairy in some folks (as well as chocolate) is also constipating. So for some of us with lactose intolerance we have diahreah and then constipation later due to eating yogart, milk, etc.

I'd try other methods this seems to be hard on your little one. I'd try the fiber route but even that causes a lot of bloating and gas but far better than this...

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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:08:18 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Just wanted to mention that I've been giving Sammy the new Dannon yogurt (vanilla) since Saturday. One a day, except on Sunday he decided on two. Yogurt does not kick his milk allergies in (something about heat/cultures changing protein strand - same thing with aged/hard/cooked cheeses).

Last night we had a beautiful blowout - think " Mommy, I got diarreah " - but I don't think it was total. He complained of a tummy ache later last night, something he does quite frequently. Usually right around his belly button. Supposedly there is " nothing wrong " (GI and GP).

I'm thinking that maybe he has stomach aches because he withholds (I would too if everything I passed was like passing the empire state building), and then has to push so hard to get it out. Sometimes he pushes so hard he pukes, though that hasn't happened more than two or three times in the last year.

I'll keep you guys posted about the Dannon experience (and to think that yesterday I skipped the benefiber in his juice).

LISA and SAMMY

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Quite the contrary...he's not lactose intolerant - it's a pure protein allergy (he has three confirmed protein allergies - peanut, dairy and soy). I think what may have happened is that he was still blocked. Last night we came home - late night at the office and he was up late, so this was around 10pm - and Sammy had a really hard movement followed by a much softer but still formed one. It literally took him 15 minutes to get the first one out. Cried for his dad (who passed away in July 03). I wanted to rip my eyes out. Today I gave him the Benefiber in his juice to try to keep things moving. Again, we're talking about a kid who steadfastly refuses to each veges, whole grains (other than Cheerios - lol) and most fruits. AGGHHH!!! Robbi Mac wrote: Is he lactose intolerant? sounds like it if he eats a yougart and then has blow outs. This happens to me. I can't do most dairy and later I have horrid stomach aches. if he continues to have these aches after eating dairy I'd stop. it's not good for the system and it does rob the body vitamins, electroylytes (sp?), etc.Also dairy in some folks (as well as chocolate) is also constipating. So for some of us with lactose intolerance we have diahreah and then constipation later due to eating yogart, milk, etc.I'd try other methods this seems to be hard on your little one. I'd try the fiber route but even that causes a lot of bloating and gas but far better than this... Reply-To: miralax Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:08:18 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re:

New here, wanting to get my son off miralax Just wanted to mention that I've been giving Sammy the new Dannon yogurt (vanilla) since Saturday. One a day, except on Sunday he decided on two. Yogurt does not kick his milk allergies in (something about heat/cultures changing protein strand - same thing with aged/hard/cooked cheeses). Last night we had a beautiful blowout - think "Mommy, I got diarreah" - but I don't think it was total. He complained of a tummy ache later last night, something he does quite frequently. Usually right around his belly button. Supposedly there is "nothing wrong" (GI and GP). I'm thinking that maybe he has stomach aches because he withholds (I would too if everything I passed was like passing the empire state building), and then has to push so hard to get it out. Sometimes he pushes so hard he pukes, though that hasn't happened

more than two or three times in the last year. I'll keep you guys posted about the Dannon experience (and to think that yesterday I skipped the benefiber in his juice). LISA and SAMMY

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You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.

I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to be creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.

Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.

The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.

Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.

Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.

Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.

How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section you'll be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!

Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.

Um what else? Can you make creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.

Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend to bind in most kids.

We'll keep brainstorming...

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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:46:16 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Quite the contrary...he's not lactose intolerant - it's a pure protein allergy (he has three confirmed protein allergies - peanut, dairy and soy).

I think what may have happened is that he was still blocked. Last night we came home - late night at the office and he was up late, so this was around 10pm - and Sammy had a really hard movement followed by a much softer but still formed one. It literally took him 15 minutes to get the first one out. Cried for his dad (who passed away in July 03). I wanted to rip my eyes out.

Today I gave him the Benefiber in his juice to try to keep things moving. Again, we're talking about a kid who steadfastly refuses to each veges, whole grains (other than Cheerios - lol) and most fruits. AGGHHH!!!

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I've tried so many things I could write a 500+ page book. He's like a bloodhound. And to add insult to injury, he will not eat bread, period. He'll ask you for a sandwich, and eat everything but the bread. He'll ask you for a slice of italian or french with butter, and he'll literally lick the butter off and leave you soggy scraps. UNREAL! He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!Robbi Mac

wrote: You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to be creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.Fried foods tend to

bind so be careful of them.Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section you'll be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.Um what else? Can you make creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend

to bind in most kids.We'll keep brainstorming... Reply-To: miralax Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:46:16 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax Quite the contrary...he's not lactose intolerant - it's a pure protein allergy (he has three confirmed protein allergies - peanut, dairy and soy).I think what may have happened is that he was still blocked. Last night we came home - late night at the office and he was up late, so this was around 10pm - and Sammy had a really hard movement followed by a much softer but still formed one. It literally took him 15 minutes to get the first one out. Cried for his dad (who passed away in July 03). I wanted to rip my eyes out.Today I gave him the Benefiber in his juice to try

to keep things moving. Again, we're talking about a kid who steadfastly refuses to each veges, whole grains (other than Cheerios - lol) and most fruits. AGGHHH!!!

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People can use benefiber indefinitely... same as any other fiber product. An update for us: the Juice Plus Fiber arrived today and it actually tastes good, and has no artificial colorings, so my daughter drank almost the entire juice box, giving her almost 10 grams of fiber from it. So we'll try to have one per day, along with the other things I am trying with her and see if the combination "works" for her. Another idea... on another board for autism, a parent mentioned that electrolyte minerals seemed to be the critical component for her child. We've talked on this board about electrolytes before, and how one or two kids were suggested to use electrolyte drinks from their doc and it did help. Anyway, I asked her what kind of electrolytes does she use and she actually uses a liquid "trace" mineral product, so it is more than just the electrolyte minerals... but I'm just

putting that out there as a possibility. The new prune juice called Plum Smart contains potassium, which I think is one of the electrolytes, isn't it? W Robbi Mac wrote: The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.

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Hi-- gosh he is picky! One thing about the babyfood-- see if keeping him off the sweet potatoes helps...I remember our pedi mentioning that these yellow/orange vegetable baby foods usually bind/slow things down and the green ones are what help things "go". So maybe see if he can skip that for a couple of weeks and see if it makes any difference for him. W Cohen wrote: He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food

runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!

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Hi--no, I knew you weren't referring to Culturelle... you were just helping support what I was saying about live cultures or something like that! Yes, a high quality probiotic does make a difference, as you are saying! :-) I just wanted to explain a little more about Culturelle so that people know that even the store-shelf temperature brand probably isn't as potent as what you get if it were shipped refrigerated and kept in the refrigerated section of a store. But I'm getting enough of a stool change with the store brand one that I think I won't worry about ordering it online... and thanks to the other person who said they saw it at the vitamin shoppe in the refrigerated section--that is good to know. I don't have that here, but may check our local health food store and see if it is there. W Bitton wrote: I did not mean to imply that Culturelle is not good because I would have absolutely no idea. I just wanted to highlight that quality matters.

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Let us know how it goes... yes, I saw in your other post that you think the blowout was more related to finally clearing out a back-up, so let's hope that is the case and that the probiotic in the yogurt will help make him more regular in a "less dramatic" way! ;-) W Cohen wrote: Just wanted to mention that I've been giving Sammy the new Dannon yogurt (vanilla) since Saturday. One a day, except on Sunday he decided on two. Yogurt does not kick his milk allergies in (something about heat/cultures changing protein strand - same thing with aged/hard/cooked cheeses). Last night we had a beautiful blowout - think "Mommy, I got diarreah" - but I don't think it was total. He complained of a tummy ache later last night,

something he does quite frequently. Usually right around his belly button. Supposedly there is "nothing wrong" (GI and GP).

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Ok ok who cares what other people think! My friend's child is the same way and our neighbors kids when they had braces would only eat baby food too! Hold your head up high!

I'd rather he eat 6 jars of baby food to get veggies than to eat nothing. At least you care and are going through the troubles. The more you look guilty or explain yourself the more the folks will treat you that way. Walk in there like you own the place! Be yourself and be proud you're momma. For those who judge you, well they aren't worth salt or your 2 sec of time. They have no idea what it's like so pity them rather than slink away. KWIM?

You may consider buying online (babyfood jars) in bulk and it would be delivered to your door in a box and no one would be the wiser since he's 6 and would need to eat a lot of them to keep the calories up. Or there are services I'm sure within your city that would do the same.

You can also try millers bran. It's fiber that you can sprinkle on other foods.

What I do is just serve the food and not prod anymore. If he eats great, if not we try again at the next meal. We do smaller meals and more often. In time with you not giving them attention about the food they do eat sometimes. Also try peer pressure. Getting friends over to eat a picnic and perhaps he'll try too.

Don't give up. Sometimes it's the approach. Sometimes young ones think that they have to put up a fuss (bad habit they picked up) before they eat. So try that for a week. Don't put up the fuss. Put on a video while they eat to distract them, or give a puzzle while they eat and shove the food into the mouth they may eat blindly due to being mentally absorbed into tsomething else. Or playdoh, that's a good one to try. My friend's child will be so engrossed into that that we can feed him almost anything!

Don't give up and keep trying other approaches. Once you resolve some of the constipation issues then they are better in trying other foods. When you're constipated you always feel full so therefore you don't want to eat.

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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:19:30 -0800 (PST)

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

I've tried so many things I could write a 500+ page book. He's like a bloodhound.

And to add insult to injury, he will not eat bread, period. He'll ask you for a sandwich, and eat everything but the bread. He'll ask you for a slice of italian or french with butter, and he'll literally lick the butter off and leave you soggy scraps.

UNREAL!

He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH.

It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!

Robbi Mac wrote:

You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.

I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to be creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.

Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.

The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.

Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.

Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.

Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.

How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section you'll be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!

Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.

Um what else? Can you make creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.

Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend to bind in most kids.

We'll keep brainstorming...

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Correct! The yellow/orange veggies do bind. Forgot that one. But the green, etc are better. Spinach is really supposed to be good to help things go.

Also watch for many baby foods do have rice mixed into them. That is very very binding. Look at the ingredients and choose those that do not have rice mixed into them.

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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:06:44 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Hi-- gosh he is picky! One thing about the babyfood-- see if keeping him off the sweet potatoes helps...I remember our pedi mentioning that these yellow/orange vegetable baby foods usually bind/slow things down and the green ones are what help things " go " . So maybe see if he can skip that for a couple of weeks and see if it makes any difference for him.

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Wow, I wish I could even get him to consider something green. Only green for him is the grass under his feet - LOL. And I'd even let him eat that if he wanted. And it's funny - weird funny - because when my late husband was alive (and Sammy was 2), Sammy would eat veges and everything. It's as he got older and entered a school-type daycare situation that he's gotten this fussy. A friend of mine tended to him (with her husband and three daughters) from age 3 months to 3 years, and he ate virtually anything. They are spanish, and one of his favorites was spanish rice with olives. Now, he won't even look at olives, let alone spanish rice. I don't know if it's a sensory thing with him or what - very well may be from the things I've been reading as well as the patterned running and spinning, which I've been told can even be an allergic reaction to food or mold. In every

other sense he is a "normal" kid. When he doesn't want to eat something, he says that he thinks he's allergic to it...smart comeback from a 5yo kid with multiple food allergies who doesn't want to try something. I've heard from someone about a pill form of compressed veges - made by a vitamin company. I can't remember the name, but maybe someone here has come across it. I remember that they have a website where it can be ordered, but unfortunately I can't recall it. Thanks for ideas. m w wrote: Hi-- gosh he is picky! One thing about the babyfood-- see if keeping him off the sweet potatoes helps...I remember our pedi mentioning that these yellow/orange vegetable baby foods usually bind/slow things down

and the green ones are what help things "go". So maybe see if he can skip that for a couple of weeks and see if it makes any difference for him. W Cohen wrote: He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill! Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

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My son is on the pureed/baby jars do to a birth defect and he is unable to chew and properally digest solids. Some with my sons condition do or eventually are able to chew, some never do. I know this was for another person, your post, but did make me feel better and Ill hold my head up even higher!! Thankfully the very small town we live in, most know my son and are understanding even if they dont really understand why he is the way he is. We have though had the heartbreaking feedback of what other youth/children have said about him. I realize they are just children and try not to let it bother me. Most of the kids just dont understand or are misinformed, and easly see things different once I explain Dillon better to them. Lots of the youth/adults love him also and treat him very well! Jennie wrote: Ok

ok who cares what other people think! My friend's child is the same way and our neighbors kids when they had braces would only eat baby food too! Hold your head up high!I'd rather he eat 6 jars of baby food to get veggies than to eat nothing. At least you care and are going through the troubles. The more you look guilty or explain yourself the more the folks will treat you that way. Walk in there like you own the place! Be yourself and be proud you're momma. For those who judge you, well they aren't worth salt or your 2 sec of time. They have no idea what it's like so pity them rather than slink away. KWIM?You may consider buying online (babyfood jars) in bulk and it would be delivered to your door in a box and no one would be the wiser since he's 6 and would need to eat a lot of them to keep the calories up. Or there are services I'm sure within your city that would do the same.You can also try millers bran. It's fiber that you can sprinkle on other

foods.What I do is just serve the food and not prod anymore. If he eats great, if not we try again at the next meal. We do smaller meals and more often. In time with you not giving them attention about the food they do eat sometimes. Also try peer pressure. Getting friends over to eat a picnic and perhaps he'll try too.Don't give up. Sometimes it's the approach. Sometimes young ones think that they have to put up a fuss (bad habit they picked up) before they eat. So try that for a week. Don't put up the fuss. Put on a video while they eat to distract them, or give a puzzle while they eat and shove the food into the mouth they may eat blindly due to being mentally absorbed into tsomething else. Or playdoh, that's a good one to try. My friend's child will be so engrossed into that that we can feed him almost anything!Don't give up and keep trying other approaches. Once you resolve some of the constipation issues then they are better in trying other foods. When

you're constipated you always feel full so therefore you don't want to eat. Reply-To: miralax Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:19:30 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax I've tried so many things I could write a 500+ page book. He's like a bloodhound. And to add insult to injury, he will not eat bread, period. He'll ask you for a sandwich, and eat everything but the bread. He'll ask you for a slice of italian or french with butter, and he'll literally lick the butter off and leave you soggy scraps. UNREAL! He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk

about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!Robbi Mac wrote: You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to be creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread

for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section you'll be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.Um what else? Can you make

creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend to bind in most kids.We'll keep brainstorming...

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Oh, I totally agree. I go thru there like a woman with a mission (literally and figuratively - LOL). I even let him have a say in what we pick. I wouldn't even dream of having the food delivered directly. No plain brown wrappers necessary - LOL! It's just funny, the looks you get from moms with infants while your poking thru shelves for baby food for your 5yo. I guess parents of kids with nocturnal enuresis (a/k/a bedwetting) feel the same way searching for the right size of Goodnights. Thankfully, we got past that issue, at least for the most part. I've tried letting him eat with the TV on, I've let him eat while playing video games, even while sitting picnic-style on my bed watching TV. He'll eat, distracted, but as soon as he has the slightest inking that he's getting something he doesn't like he pushes everything aside and says "I won't eat this" and goes without

dinner. Kids are so stubborn...Robbi Mac wrote: Ok ok who cares what other people think! My friend's child is the same way and our neighbors kids when they had braces would only eat baby food too! Hold your head up high!I'd rather he eat 6 jars of baby food to get veggies than to eat nothing. At least you care and are going through the troubles. The more you look guilty or explain yourself the more the folks will treat you that way. Walk in there like you own the place! Be yourself and be proud you're momma. For those who judge you, well they aren't worth salt or your 2 sec of time. They have no idea what it's like so pity them rather than slink away. KWIM?You may consider buying online (babyfood jars) in bulk and it would be delivered to your door in a box and no one would be the

wiser since he's 6 and would need to eat a lot of them to keep the calories up. Or there are services I'm sure within your city that would do the same.You can also try millers bran. It's fiber that you can sprinkle on other foods.What I do is just serve the food and not prod anymore. If he eats great, if not we try again at the next meal. We do smaller meals and more often. In time with you not giving them attention about the food they do eat sometimes. Also try peer pressure. Getting friends over to eat a picnic and perhaps he'll try too.Don't give up. Sometimes it's the approach. Sometimes young ones think that they have to put up a fuss (bad habit they picked up) before they eat. So try that for a week. Don't put up the fuss. Put on a video while they eat to distract them, or give a puzzle while they eat and shove the food into the mouth they may eat blindly due to being mentally absorbed into tsomething else. Or playdoh, that's a good one to try. My

friend's child will be so engrossed into that that we can feed him almost anything!Don't give up and keep trying other approaches. Once you resolve some of the constipation issues then they are better in trying other foods. When you're constipated you always feel full so therefore you don't want to eat. Reply-To: miralax Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:19:30 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax I've tried so many things I could write a 500+ page book. He's like a bloodhound. And to add insult to injury, he will not eat bread, period. He'll ask you for a sandwich, and eat everything but the bread. He'll ask you for a slice of italian or french with butter, and he'll literally lick the butter off and

leave you soggy scraps. UNREAL! He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!Robbi Mac wrote: You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to be

creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section you'll

be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.Um what else? Can you make creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend to bind in most kids.We'll keep brainstorming...

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Didn't realize about the yellow/orange thing...but I do know about the rice element. I avoid those and stick only to pure vege or pure fruit, though I will go for the blended/combination ones. And I won't get him the Beef and this, or Chicken and that foods - that's where I draw my line, and firmly. That's also why I'm not so sure this is really a sensory thing with him. He will eat chicken and beef, though he's more a chicken eater. I just remembered how I survived on baby food (at 19) when I had my wisdoms removed. Got a good chuckle for myself out of that. Robbi Mac wrote: Correct! The yellow/orange veggies do bind. Forgot that one. But the green, etc are better. Spinach is really supposed to be good to help things go.Also

watch for many baby foods do have rice mixed into them. That is very very binding. Look at the ingredients and choose those that do not have rice mixed into them. Reply-To: miralax Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:06:44 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax Hi-- gosh he is picky! One thing about the babyfood-- see if keeping him off the sweet potatoes helps...I remember our pedi mentioning that these yellow/orange vegetable baby foods usually bind/slow things down and the green ones are what help things "go". So maybe see if he can skip that for a couple of weeks and see if it makes any difference for him. W

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Jennie, especially because Dillon has the problems he does you should hold your head even higher than I can hold mine. With my son, it's probably just that he's being adamant as all get out, and he can probably help himself change if he wanted to. Dillon, unfortunately, has not choice. And you're right about kids being kids, but it is also up to those parents to teach their children about children with problems such as Dillon's after you initially explain it to them. I honestly don't believe that kids are inherently as evil as some think when it comes to taunting...it is because they are either afraid or just don't comprehend. You're doing a great job holding it together, and the fact that you can even make time to work with this board is a testament to that. You're a mom, and that's it. We do what we have to when we have to, and sometimes we even shock ourselves. Take care!!!! Jennie wrote: My son is on the pureed/baby jars do to a birth defect and he is unable to chew and properally digest solids. Some with my sons condition do or eventually are able to chew, some never do. I know this was for another person, your post, but did make me feel better and Ill hold my head up even higher!! Thankfully the very small town we live in, most know my son and are understanding even if they dont really understand why he is the way he is. We have though had the heartbreaking feedback of what other youth/children have said about him. I realize they are just children and try not to let it bother me. Most of the kids just dont understand or are misinformed, and easly see things different once I explain Dillon better to

them. Lots of the youth/adults love him also and treat him very well! Jennie wrote: Ok ok who cares what other people think! My friend's child is the same way and our neighbors kids when they had braces would only eat baby food too! Hold your head up high!I'd rather he eat 6 jars of baby food to get veggies than to eat nothing. At least you care and are going through the troubles. The more you look guilty or explain yourself the more the folks will treat you that way. Walk in there like you own the place! Be yourself and be proud you're momma. For those who judge you, well they aren't worth salt or your 2 sec of time. They have no idea what it's like so pity them rather than slink away. KWIM?You may consider buying online (babyfood jars) in bulk and it would be delivered to your door in a box and no

one would be the wiser since he's 6 and would need to eat a lot of them to keep the calories up. Or there are services I'm sure within your city that would do the same.You can also try millers bran. It's fiber that you can sprinkle on other foods.What I do is just serve the food and not prod anymore. If he eats great, if not we try again at the next meal. We do smaller meals and more often. In time with you not giving them attention about the food they do eat sometimes. Also try peer pressure. Getting friends over to eat a picnic and perhaps he'll try too.Don't give up. Sometimes it's the approach. Sometimes young ones think that they have to put up a fuss (bad habit they picked up) before they eat. So try that for a week. Don't put up the fuss. Put on a video while they eat to distract them, or give a puzzle while they eat and shove the food into the mouth they may eat blindly due to being mentally absorbed into tsomething else. Or playdoh, that's a good one

to try. My friend's child will be so engrossed into that that we can feed him almost anything!Don't give up and keep trying other approaches. Once you resolve some of the constipation issues then they are better in trying other foods. When you're constipated you always feel full so therefore you don't want to eat. Reply-To: miralax Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:19:30 -0800 (PST)To: miralax Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax I've tried so many things I could write a 500+ page book. He's like a bloodhound. And to add insult to injury, he will not eat bread, period. He'll ask you for a sandwich, and eat everything but the bread. He'll ask you for a slice of italian or french with butter, and he'll literally lick the butter

off and leave you soggy scraps. UNREAL! He'll eat only certain jarred baby food veges/fruits - sweet potatos and peaches and apricots. Mind you, he'll be 6 at the end of August. Talk about an embarrassing walk thru the grocery (especially when everyone knows he's your only). Sometimes I feel like I'm dying a thousand deaths, between the coaxing and prodding him to go, seeing how it hurts him and then doing the baby food runs. UGH. It's easier to get my cat to swallow a pill!Robbi Mac wrote: You're going to have to try other tricks like baking muffins with fiber in them, carrots, etc. I'll post a receipe here later tonight that you can try. Every stubborn kid I know has been able to eat them. They're pretty good and it keeps them moving.I have a stubborn one too. However you have to keep trying to

be creative. It's frustrating as heck and you end up wanting to cry but you can't give up! Perhaps apples with caramel dipping sauce? Think out of the box.Check out some white breads that now contain high fiber in them. I hate Wonder bread for it has high fructose corn syrup in it but it does contain over 4 g of fiber in each slice! Some versions are called Kids Wonder, etc.The fiber juice is another option. Benefiber is good too however I don't know how long one can go on that.Fried foods tend to bind so be careful of them.Have yoru child drink lots of water. Grape juice, apricot juice, prune juice, pear juice, etc all are good to help keeps things moving. Some folks swear by apple, my son does go when he drinks it but it's only one brand, the rest seem to bind him.Will your child eat chinese egg rolls? Dipped? There are healthy versions available.How about veggie burgers or veggie hot dogs? Search and try the veggetarian section

you'll be surprized how good some taste and your child will never know it's veggies! LOL!Sometimes if you make stove top stuffing and then chop veggies so that they are so small you can hide them in that.Um what else? Can you make creamy soups with pureed veggies? And then put fun noodles in the soup? This one takes time to experiment with however many moms have had success with this one. Try hot or cold soups. Some kids are just cold soup kids.Watch the dairy, fried/greasy foods, chocolates, all tend to bind in most kids.We'll keep brainstorming... Yahoo! MailUse Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

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Seems to me that he will eat with men but not with women? Perhaps he's grieving in his own little way? Or wanting male influences? Try an experiment. Get him a big. Big brother from big brothers/big sisters organization. It's free.

Or locate a male mentor from church, a family member, etc. Once they get to know him after a few weeks have them eat lunch with him. See if he will try to imitate them by eating the simple veggies.

if this is true he's using foods to control his life since nothing else he can control. It's very common amongst kids in daycare/preschool. They become fussy eaters when they go to school an dthings happen which they cannot verbalize or get out to vent. I'd then seek a good child psychologist who can help out. They are fabulous folks!

GOOD LUCK!

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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:24:49 -0800 (PST)

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Wow, I wish I could even get him to consider something green. Only green for him is the grass under his feet - LOL. And I'd even let him eat that if he wanted.

And it's funny - weird funny - because when my late husband was alive (and Sammy was 2), Sammy would eat veges and everything. It's as he got older and entered a school-type daycare situation that he's gotten this fussy. A friend of mine tended to him (with her husband and three daughters) from age 3 months to 3 years, and he ate virtually anything. They are spanish, and one of his favorites was spanish rice with olives. Now, he won't even look at olives, let alone spanish rice.

I don't know if it's a sensory thing with him or what - very well may be from the things I've been reading as well as the patterned running and spinning, which I've been told can even be an allergic reaction to food or mold. In every other sense he is a " normal " kid. When he doesn't want to eat something, he says that he thinks he's allergic to it...smart comeback from a 5yo kid with multiple food allergies who doesn't want to try something.

I've heard from someone about a pill form of compressed veges - made by a vitamin company. I can't remember the name, but maybe someone here has come across it. I remember that they have a website where it can be ordered, but unfortunately I can't recall it.

Thanks for ideas.

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Kids are honest. You want them to be that way. Smile, give them a reassuring pat on the arm and tell them lovingly but simply facts about your child. It will make your child feel better and your child will also learn by their most important mentor, you, how to deal with rough life situations.

Turn lemons into lemonades. Think of it this way. These young kids who you will teach by a few sentences will remember those words and perhaps be more compassionate as teens and adults instead of those that are treating you like poopy! KWIM?

So use this gift of advantage. Perhaps with educating them they will then be more apt to come visit and play with your son and with other kids like him!

You know I feel a lot of how we are treated is how we act. If we act embarrassed and down then they will treat us that way. So try it for a month. Hold your head up high. Do not be embarrassed. Smile at folks like you usually do and watch their faces. Then laugh or giggle. Next few times they will be more open to talk. And if they do, take advantage of this gift of time. If they still are stupid then smile knowing that thank God you don't have to live with them or sleep with them! WHEW! What miserable soul they are!

GOOD LUCK! If the veggies work in jars, use them. Contact the food baby jar company by phone and see if they can sell direct or offer you coupons, etc. Since you have a special condition. Worst thing they can say is no. Right?

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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 07:35:53 -0800 (PST)

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

My son is on the pureed/baby jars do to a birth defect and he is unable to chew and properally digest solids. Some with my sons condition do or eventually are able to chew, some never do. I know this was for another person, your post, but did make me feel better and Ill hold my head up even higher!! Thankfully the very small town we live in, most know my son and are understanding even if they dont really understand why he is the way he is. We have though had the heartbreaking feedback of what other youth/children have said about him. I realize they are just children and try not to let it bother me. Most of the kids just dont understand or are misinformed, and easly see things different once I explain Dillon better to them. Lots of the youth/adults love him also and treat him very well! Jennie<><

Robbi Mac wrote:

Ok ok who cares what other people think! My friend's child is the same way and our neighbors kids when they had braces would only eat baby food too! Hold your head up high!

I'd rather he eat 6 jars of baby food to get veggies than to eat nothing. At least you care and are going through the troubles. The more you look guilty or explain yourself the more the folks will treat you that way. Walk in there like you own the place! Be yourself and be proud you're momma. For those who judge you, well they aren't worth salt or your 2 sec of time. They have no idea what it's like so pity them rather than slink away. KWIM?

You may consider buying online (babyfood jars) in bulk and it would be delivered to your door in a box and no one would be the wiser since he's 6 and would need to eat a lot of them to keep the calories up. Or there are services I'm sure within your city that would do the same.

You can also try millers bran. It's fiber that you can sprinkle on other foods.

What I do is just serve the food and not prod anymore. If he eats great, if not we try again at the next meal. We do smaller meals and more often. In time with you not giving them attention about the food they do eat sometimes. Also try peer pressure. Getting friends over to eat a picnic and perhaps he'll try too.

Don't give up. Sometimes it's the approach. Sometimes young ones think that they have to put up a fuss (bad habit they picked up) before they eat. So try that for a week. Don't put up the fuss. Put on a video while they eat to distract them, or give a puzzle while they eat and shove the food into the mouth they may eat blindly due to being mentally absorbed into tsomething else. Or playdoh, that's a good one to try. My friend's child will be so engrossed into that that we can feed him almost anything!

Don't give up and keep trying other approaches. Once you resolve some of the constipation issues then they are better in trying other foods. When you're constipated you always feel full so therefore you don't want to eat.

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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:13:01 -0800 (PST)

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Re: New here, wanting to get my son off miralax

Oh, I totally agree. I go thru there like a woman with a mission (literally and figuratively - LOL). I even let him have a say in what we pick. I wouldn't even dream of having the food delivered directly. No plain brown wrappers necessary - LOL! It's just funny, the looks you get from moms with infants while your poking thru shelves for baby food for your 5yo. I guess parents of kids with nocturnal enuresis (a/k/a bedwetting) feel the same way searching for the right size of Goodnights. Thankfully, we got past that issue, at least for the most part.

I've tried letting him eat with the TV on, I've let him eat while playing video games, even while sitting picnic-style on my bed watching TV. He'll eat, distracted, but as soon as he has the slightest inking that he's getting something he doesn't like he pushes everything aside and says " I won't eat this " and goes without dinner.

Kids are so stubborn...