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Anne, This is good advice...Thanks - BethANNE GABRIEL wrote: This is my first post-must pass muster before being posted. I hope you will share this information with others, however. A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE...as some of you have posted or want to believe. Studies have shown that 1200 calories eaten after 6 pm turn primarily to fat; 1200 calories eaten prior to 4:00 pm do not...1200 calories of fat laden foods turn virtually 100% to fat-visceral or external; 1200 calories of fiber dense, vitamin rich vegetables with protein and a small amount of fat, especially healthy, monosaturated varieties with Omega 3-s in addition to 6's is virtually metabolized by the body with little to no fat storage. (1200 Kc is

merely a baseline; body size and needs vary) 45 minutes of walking every morning will rev up even the slowest metabolism; natural sunlight, preferrably before 9:00 am will stabilize cravings, boost metabolic function naturally and eliminate any need for artificial Vitamin D. Even if you can't walk for 45 minutes; spend some early morning time OUTDOORS! That's how we were designed. And we are, after all, a supersophisticated big bag of chemicals, along with our ethereal, mystical souls...And as Steve noted, get off the obsession of numbers on the scale. Most women who work out and have muscle mass are MUCH heavier than a "fluffier", less fit woman and are smaller...use your jeans to keep yourself on track.At my optimum fitness level, I am 5 3, weigh 138, and wear a size 7- I'm 52 years old. I would look like a cadaver at 115 pounds-my face would cave in. Blessings to everyone

who is searching for health.

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Anne,

You have some good suggestions but I'm interested in your studies concerning eating after 6 PM turning primarily to fat. Most research I've read suggests otherwise. The NIH chooses 8PM in their dieting myth section. However, I do agree that it isn't good to eat immediately before bedtime as it often results in indigestion problems or interferes with sleep for many people.

http://www.win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/myths.htm

We seem to have similar stats. I'm 5'3", weigh 147, wear size 8 and am age 63. I don't do much walking but weight training and cycling are my main exercise choices.

Beverly

This is, bar NONE, the most active Yahoo Group in which I have ever participated

This is my first post-must pass muster before being posted. I hope you will share this information with others, however. A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE...as some of you have posted or want to believe. Studies have shown that 1200 calories eaten after 6 pm turn primarily to fat; 1200 calories eaten prior to 4:00 pm do not...1200 calories of fat laden foods turn virtually 100% to fat-visceral or external; 1200 calories of fiber dense, vitamin rich vegetables with protein and a small amount of fat, especially healthy, monosaturated varieties with Omega 3-s in addition to 6's is virtually metabolized by the body with little to no fat storage. (1200 Kc is merely a baseline; body size and needs vary) 45 minutes of walking every morning will rev up even the slowest metabolism; natural sunlight, preferrably before 9:00 am will stabilize cravings, boost metabolic function naturally and eliminate any need for artificial Vitamin D. Even if you can't walk for 45 minutes; spend some early morning time OUTDOORS! That's how we were designed. And we are, after all, a supersophisticated big bag of chemicals, along with our ethereal, mystical souls...And as Steve noted, get off the obsession of numbers on the scale. Most women who work out and have muscle mass are MUCH heavier than a "fluffier", less fit woman and are smaller...use your jeans to keep yourself on track.At my optimum fitness level, I am 5 3, weigh 138, and wear a size 7- I'm 52 years old. I would look like a cadaver at 115 pounds-my face would cave in. Blessings to everyone who is searching for health.

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I'd like to see the study that proved this. I am very skeptical (no offense) about this. I cannot find any scientific study that points to this being true. I do believe that walking is beneficial, though I do 30 minutes during the day and another hour in the evening. But eat most of my calories for the day after 4:00 pm, and I have lost 70 pounds since last September.ANNE GABRIEL wrote: This is my first post-must pass muster before being posted. I hope you will share this information with others, however. A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE...as some of you have posted or want to believe. Studies have shown that 1200 calories eaten after 6 pm turn primarily to fat; 1200 calories eaten prior to 4:00 pm do not...1200 calories of fat laden foods turn

virtually 100% to fat-visceral or external; 1200 calories of fiber dense, vitamin rich vegetables with protein and a small amount of fat, especially healthy, monosaturated varieties with Omega 3-s in addition to 6's is virtually metabolized by the body with little to no fat storage. (1200 Kc is merely a baseline; body size and needs vary) 45 minutes of walking every morning will rev up even the slowest metabolism; natural sunlight, preferrably before 9:00 am will stabilize cravings, boost metabolic function naturally and eliminate any need for artificial Vitamin D. Even if you can't walk for 45 minutes; spend some early morning time OUTDOORS! That's how we were designed. And we are, after all, a supersophisticated big bag of chemicals, along with our ethereal, mystical souls...And as Steve noted, get off the obsession of numbers on the scale. Most women who work out and have muscle mass are MUCH

heavier than a "fluffier", less fit woman and are smaller...use your jeans to keep yourself on track.At my optimum fitness level, I am 5 3, weigh 138, and wear a size 7- I'm 52 years old. I would look like a cadaver at 115 pounds-my face would cave in. Blessings to everyone who is searching for health. Vern's Quest for Health My Online Weight-Loss

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Vern: It doesn't matter when you eat. What matters is how much you

eat. It's simple math. 3200 calories is a pound. If you want to lose

a pound you have to burn that many calories either through diet or

exercise. Losing weight is important, but being healthy is more

impoirtant. What good is it to be slim and sick? So the kind of

calories you eat is also important. Anita

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I'd like to see the study that proved this. I am very skeptical (no offense) about this. I cannot find any scientific study that points to this being true. I do believe that walking is beneficial, though I do 30 minutes during the day and another hour in the evening. But eat most of my calories for the day after 4:00 pm, and I have lost 70 pounds since last September.

If you google "diet myths" you'll see the eating after a certain time of day mentioned in just about all of them. It all comes down to total calories and not the time of day at which you quit eating.

I lost 40 lbs a little over 10 years ago and have since maintained my goal weight. Like you I eat the majority of my calories at my evening meal and often have a snack (100-200 calories) after dinner. As long as I keep my total calories within my caloric range I don't gain weight.

ANNE GABRIEL wrote:

This is my first post-must pass muster before being posted. I hope you will share this information with others, however. A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE...as some of you have posted or want to believe. Studies have shown that 1200 calories eaten after 6 pm turn primarily to fat; 1200 calories eaten prior to 4:00 pm do not...1200 calories of fat laden foods turn virtually 100% to fat-visceral or external; 1200 calories of fiber dense, vitamin rich vegetables with protein and a small amount of fat, especially healthy, monosaturated varieties with Omega 3-s in addition to 6's is virtually metabolized by the body with little to no fat storage. (1200 Kc is merely a baseline; body size and needs vary) 45 minutes of walking every morning will rev up even the slowest metabolism; natural sunlight, preferrably before 9:00 am will stabilize cravings, boost metabolic function naturally and eliminate any need for artificial Vitamin D. Even if you can't walk for 45 minutes; spend some early morning time OUTDOORS! That's how we were designed. And we are, after all, a supersophisticated big bag of chemicals, along with our ethereal, mystical souls...And as Steve noted, get off the obsession of numbers on the scale. Most women who work out and have muscle mass are MUCH heavier than a "fluffier", less fit woman and are smaller...use your jeans to keep yourself on track.At my optimum fitness level, I am 5 3, weigh 138, and wear a size 7- I'm 52 years old. I would look like a cadaver at 115 pounds-my face would cave in. Blessings to everyone who is searching for health.

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That's what I thought, Anita. I was kind of taken aback by that whole don't eat in the evening thing, 'cause it hasn't worked that way for me. I live by the "burn more energy than you consume" rule, and it works for me. As Ann Landers said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" I also feel it is very important to consume a good, well-rounded diet, including lots of fruit and vegetables. I'm not a vegetarian, but I do limit the amount of meat I consume, and stick mostly to poultry and fish. I don't totally eschew red meat, but I don't eat very much of it. Isnt' this a great group?!?anita penner wrote: Vern: It doesn't matter when you eat. What matters is how much you eat. It's simple math. 3200 calories is a pound. If you

want to lose a pound you have to burn that many calories either through diet or exercise. Losing weight is important, but being healthy is more impoirtant. What good is it to be slim and sick? So the kind of calories you eat is also important. Anita Vern's Quest for Health My Online Weight-Loss Diary Proud to be a member of the Bravenet Community

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when I think about the obesity problem in this country, I think it

goes much deeper than just a physical problem. I think it's also a by-

product of a system that exploits the consumer. The food industry or

any industry (take pharmaceuticals for exampe) doesn't really care

about how you and I are affected by their product as long as they

maintain a profit. Anita

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My first post here on FMW...

The effect of time of day? We do have peaks and dips in the metabolic

diurnal variations. But food eaten late evening will often stimulate

heartburn if you lie down with it undigested in the stomach. Don't eat too

close to bedtime if only to prevent that and its consequences [esophageal

diseases].

The specific metabolic effect of protein-based food is well documented, but

some of these ideas, (e.g. that if you intake under 1200 kcals/day you won't

lose weight)... well, such thinking can be just plain error.

Initially, very low calorie intake will close down your basal metabolic

rate, (as the thyroid will turn its " fire stoking " activity down), but after

the first starvation-reaction, you will lose weight, 'cos the body will

progressively use up your reserves. Sadly, you will also burn muscle...

alongside exerscise, the ideal diet will allow an increase muscle bulk as

the fat is burned. Consider the concentration camp piks from WW2 if you need

evidence. Although the body's initial response to food withdrawal is to

preserve what's " on board " by slowing metabolism, lack of food always

ultimately leads to emaciation as your body has to exact a finite energy

toll each day to keep the vital functions on the go... for an average

grown-up male, as a ballpark figure, 1800-1900 cals merely keeps us on

" idle " ... heart beating, brain working, liver working, producing heat and

chemicals, gut moving along recent foods ingested etc... it's called BMR,

your inbuilt tick-over rate

T. H.

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Yahoo Group in which I have ever participated

I'd like to see the study that proved this. I am very skeptical (no

offense) about this. I cannot find any scientific study that points to this

being true. I do believe that walking is beneficial, though I do 30 minutes

during the day and another hour in the evening. But eat most of my calories

for the day after 4:00 pm, and I have lost 70 pounds since last September.

If you google " diet myths " you'll see the eating after a certain time of day

mentioned in just about all of them. It all comes down to total calories

and not the time of day at which you quit eating.

I lost 40 lbs a little over 10 years ago and have since maintained my goal

weight. Like you I eat the majority of my calories at my evening meal and

often have a snack (100-200 calories) after dinner. As long as I keep my

total calories within my caloric range I don't gain weight.

ANNE GABRIEL wrote:

This is my first post-must pass muster before being posted. I hope you

will share this information with others, however.

A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE...[etc]