New poll for Soundsensitivity

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I'm not exactly sure what the results of this poll will tell you.

The problems I can see include:

- People might not have gone anywhere for a diagnosis of their 4S

symptoms and so would vote " no " but not because OCD was ever ruled

out for them

- People might have been diagnosed OCD for behaviors other than those

related to their 4S reactions

- OCD and 4S may not be related; having or not having a diagnosis of

OCD may have nothing to do with 4S

- OCD is itself a rather subjective diagnosis. Just about everyone

is compulsive about some things in their lives - making sure a door

is locked, straightening a picture on the wall that keeps going

crooked, putting all the pens back in the pen cup before leaving

work, etc. OCD is generally " diagnosed " *when* the person's " habit "

is considered out of his/her control AND/OR when it begins to affect

the person's daily life (e.g., always late for work because of having

to repeatedly check the door is locked; fights with spouse because of

shopping compulsion; etc.). If your habit or compulsion does not

impact your daily life, it may not be diagnosed as OCD.

Additionally, what I might view as disruptive and a compulsive act by

a client may not be viewed as such by another clinician; it can be

interpreted as a habit, a coping mechanism, or something else either

neutral or healthy for the person to do.

Personally, I don't care if the hyperacusis people think I'm OCD

instead of 4S, especially if they're not audiologists or

neuropsychiatrists. I don't think they would appreciate me telling

them they're oversensitive hot-house flowers who need to get a grip

and just deal with the sounds they hear, either. (I don't think

that, but I'm sure others in the general public do.) I don't see

anything being gained from encouraging our two little minorities

beating up on each other, for what it's worth.

MJD the MSW

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> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> Soundsensitivity group:

>

> Have you been diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?

>

> o Yes

> o No

> o I am not sure

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not exactly sure what the results of this poll will tell you.

The problems I can see include:

- People might not have gone anywhere for a diagnosis of their 4S

symptoms and so would vote " no " but not because OCD was ever ruled

out for them

- People might have been diagnosed OCD for behaviors other than those

related to their 4S reactions

- OCD and 4S may not be related; having or not having a diagnosis of

OCD may have nothing to do with 4S

- OCD is itself a rather subjective diagnosis. Just about everyone

is compulsive about some things in their lives - making sure a door

is locked, straightening a picture on the wall that keeps going

crooked, putting all the pens back in the pen cup before leaving

work, etc. OCD is generally " diagnosed " *when* the person's " habit "

is considered out of his/her control AND/OR when it begins to affect

the person's daily life (e.g., always late for work because of having

to repeatedly check the door is locked; fights with spouse because of

shopping compulsion; etc.). If your habit or compulsion does not

impact your daily life, it may not be diagnosed as OCD.

Additionally, what I might view as disruptive and a compulsive act by

a client may not be viewed as such by another clinician; it can be

interpreted as a habit, a coping mechanism, or something else either

neutral or healthy for the person to do.

Personally, I don't care if the hyperacusis people think I'm OCD

instead of 4S, especially if they're not audiologists or

neuropsychiatrists. I don't think they would appreciate me telling

them they're oversensitive hot-house flowers who need to get a grip

and just deal with the sounds they hear, either. (I don't think

that, but I'm sure others in the general public do.) I don't see

anything being gained from encouraging our two little minorities

beating up on each other, for what it's worth.

MJD the MSW

>

>

> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> Soundsensitivity group:

>

> Have you been diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?

>

> o Yes

> o No

> o I am not sure

>

[Guest guest]

I just realized I left out one additional part of the post - the

concept that those who have OCD and 4S may have developed OCD *in

response to* 4S.

Compulsive behaviors are often conditioned (learned) responses to

something else, like something in the environment. Compulsive

behaviors are also attempts at gaining, re-gaining, or maintaining

control over something - anything - when faced with something that

bothers them. We often can't control the noises others make, or cannot

take steps to directly control these noises (e.g., asking the Big Boss

to stop talking with his mouth full in a board meeting). So we develop

the hyper-alertness, the throat-clearing, the twitching, the constant

scanning the environment for what might be an offender. It helps. It

would not be a surprise if the success of these coping strategies don't

lead the subconscious into applying OCD behaviors to other areas of

life outside of 4S. And then, to an outsider, we apear to be OCD

people who have silly OCD problems about other people's noises, when in

fact it might be putting the effect before the cause.

My professional colleagues, the few I've told about my sound issues,

are either nicely polite or dismissive (one laughed in my face), but I

know from their reactions they suspect it's all based OCD or something

related, not an auditory issue at all. But I, too, can hear gum from

miles away when others can't, like the coworker four offices down who

cracks her gum while typing on her computer (far away from, and not

facing, her half-closed office door).

Sigh.

(MJ the MSW)

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> Jane, just wanted to say there is a lot of wisdom in what you

> said.

>

> However, IF you have been 'diagnosed' with OCD.

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> I am interested.

>

> MJ

>

[Guest guest]

I love the new poll (especially the name-- " Annoyance of the sexes! " ),

and I want to vote, but I do not find either of the sexes to be more

annoying, and there isn't a button for that.

[Guest guest]

I agree that both sexes can be equally annoying and cannot vote on this poll either.

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I love the new poll (especially the name--"Annoyance of the sexes!"),and I want to vote, but I do not find either of the sexes to be moreannoying, and there isn't a button for that.

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[Guest guest]

Greetings all,

From a scientific perspective, it is important to have

a button that allows for a no-difference vote in order

to be able to say anything qualitatively (or

statistically) significant.

Can a button be added? Then folks (myself included)

who couldnt vote before can contribute

--- Lynne Saperstein wrote:

> I agree that both sexes can be equally annoying and

> cannot vote on this poll either.

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> name-- " Annoyance of the sexes! " ),

> and I want to vote, but I do not find either of

> the sexes to be more

> annoying, and there isn't a button for that.

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[Guest guest]

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

Soundsensitivity group:

You are watching a sitcom on television and someone starts a conversation with

you. Which best describes your ability to focus on the conversation?

o No problem...I can block out the sound of the television

o No problem...I can listen to the TV and have a conversation at the same time

o I find it somewhat difficult to focus on the conversation, but am able to do

so

o I find it stressful and very difficult to focus on the conversation

o It is nearly impossible for me to have a conversation while the TV is on

To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soundsensitivity/surveys?id=2522283

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups

web site listed above.

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hello

I wish I could vote on this poll but I can't because my 4s is

different than most of the other folks on this board. I cannot watch

TV or listen to the radio because I cannot bear the letter S spoken

by a female voice. To me that " hissy " sound is just as ubearable as

the eating sound is for a majority of the participants here.

I not only feel like an outsider due to the 4S but I also feel

somewhat like an outsider even in this group because my trigger

sounds are different than most of you. I find it interesting though

that so many of us are upset from sounds that eminate from the mouth.

I bet Sigmund Freud would have had a field day with us ! (HA HA)

Love y'all

Elaine

> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

> Soundsensitivity group:

>

> You are watching a sitcom on television and someone starts a

conversation with you. Which best describes your ability to focus on

the conversation?

>

>

> o No problem...I can block out the sound of the television

> o No problem...I can listen to the TV and have a conversation at

the same time

> o I find it somewhat difficult to focus on the conversation, but

am able to do so

> o I find it stressful and very difficult to focus on the

conversation

> o It is nearly impossible for me to have a conversation while the

TV is on

>

>

> To vote, please visit the following web page:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soundsensitivity/surveys?id=2522283

>

> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are

> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups

> web site listed above.

>

> Thanks!

>