Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Have you thought about where the iron from all the leafy greens is going? Have you run a DocData UEE to see if he's wasting it in his urine? If the answer is no - it must be going somewhere. Could it be bound up in biofilm? Are his calcium and magnesium levels low as well, despite supplementation? Just throwing the idea out there - I'm sure you have thought it through already. > > In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-available and highly absorbable. Thank you. > > Limin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 hi Limin, is your son dairy free? In some people milk blocks absorbtion of iron – a friend of mine is such a case, very low iron levels for most of her life regardless of diet or supplements, then she figured out to remove milk and the levels are back to normal for the first time since her early teenage years. natasa > > In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-available and highly absorbable. Thank you. > > Limin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Maybe organic dessicated liver would help. lisa Iron deficiency In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-available and highly absorbable. Thank you. Limin Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks, . Ingvar still has indigestive, malabsorptive problems. He takes 4 different brands of digestive enzyme with each meal. Still I can observe that leafy green at times stay intact in his stools. Digestion begins in the mouth. Because he does not chew well, so there is not enough of chewing action to stimulate salivary Epidermal Growth Factor (EGF) that is healing to the epithelial lining of the gut. How much and how long to chew the food is determined by the brain. His brain still does not function well to set out this message. I think his iron deficiency is one of the downstream issues of his digestive problem. I have been testing him for UTM+UEE and FM alternatively with Dcotor's Data once every 1 - 5 weeks for the past 2.5 years. His urinary iron is always undetectable and nothing gets wasted. I also never supplement him with iron, because gut bugs feed on iron. I only consider supplementing iron now, because I want Artemisia treatment to be effective for him. His level of ferritin is quite low. The iron storage in his body is drained down. But judging from the normal range of his transferrin, TIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and hemoglobins, I call tell that his body efficiently uses whatever iron storage he has. I never chelate him for iron or try to bind up iron either. But we started biofilm protocol using several systemic enzymes about 1.5 years ago and recently changed to use disodium EDTA (in Phospholipids Exchange), Manuka honey, and apple cider vinegar. Systemic enzymes were effective for us. But because our long-term use of these enzymes, Ingvar's blood became thin and pinkish in color, I concerned that his blood might not clot well if he had an accident. I am hoping that EDTA, honey, and apple cider vinegar will do the trick. I want his magnesium to be at the high end within the reference range on UEE and calcium to be at the low end within the reference range. His magnesium has been good, but calcium fluctuates a bit due to his excretion of Lead and our use of disodium EDTA. His biggest problem is with sodium. He uses FIR sauna twice a week. He is on Cell Salts #9 Nat Mur to raise cellular sodium. Limin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 15:00 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Iron deficiency > Have you thought about where the iron from all the leafy greens is > going? Have you run a DocData UEE to see if he's wasting it in his > urine? If the answer is no - it must be going somewhere. Could it be > bound up in biofilm? Are his calcium and magnesium levels low as well, > despite supplementation? > > Just throwing the idea out there - I'm sure you have thought it > through already. > > > > >> >> In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some > lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. > His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the > reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed > anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the > reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate > in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green > leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and > egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron > storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular > brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-available > and highly absorbable. Thank you. >> >> Limin >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Thank you, . He took pork liver cooked in Chinese herbal soup when he was littler. Your message just remind me to make the herbal soup for him again. The soup contains several Chinese herbs that are traditionally used to increase red blood cell account, increase blood flow, and treat anemia. Limin From: w3m1@... Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 07:47 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Iron deficiency Maybe organic dessicated liver would help. lisa Iron deficiency In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-available and highly absorbable. Thank you. Limin Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hi Natasa, He is on CFGF diet. He is also on methyl B12 injections, too. Limin From: Neno/Natasa Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 01:33 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Iron deficiency hi Limin, is your son dairy free? In some people milk blocks absorbtion of iron – a friend of mine is such a case, very low iron levels for most of her life regardless of diet or supplements, then she figured out to remove milk and the levels are back to normal for the first time since her early teenage years.natasa >> In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run somelab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. thereference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developedanemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within thereference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation ratein the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of greenleafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats andegg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost ironstorage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particularbrand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio-availableand highly absorbable. Thank you.> > Limin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Would you please send me the recipe? I think Orion is anemic, but I have been hesitant to give iron pills. Caryn > > Thank you, . He took pork liver cooked in Chinese herbal soup when he was littler. Your message just remind me to make the herbal soup for him again. The soup contains several Chinese herbs that are traditionally used to increase red blood cell account, increase blood flow, and treat anemia. > > Limin > > > > From: w3m1@... > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 07:47 > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Iron deficiency > > > Maybe organic dessicated liver would help. lisa > > > Iron deficiency > > > In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio- available and highly absorbable. Thank you. > > Limin > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Limin, Would you mind posting recipe to the group? I would love a new recipe from my usual bone broth! Thanks! Kathy > > > > Thank you, . He took pork liver cooked in Chinese herbal soup > when he was littler. Your message just remind me to make the herbal > soup for him again. The soup contains several Chinese herbs that are > traditionally used to increase red blood cell account, increase blood > flow, and treat anemia. > > > > Limin > > > > > > > > From: w3m1@ > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 07:47 > > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Re: Iron deficiency > > > > > > Maybe organic dessicated liver would help. lisa > > > > > > Iron deficiency > > > > > > In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some > lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron > deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 > v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have > developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within > the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation > rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of > green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red > meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to > boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a > particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio- > available and highly absorbable. Thank you. > > > > Limin > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ------------ > > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations FREE while you > browse.Start Listening Now! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Kathy, Caryn, I translate a few Chinese recipes below: 1. He Shou Wu ( ??? ) egg soup: - Wash and rinse He Shou Wu. - Peel the egg shell of two cooked eggs. - Put He Shou Wu, two cooked eggs, some slices of ginger root, and chopped scallion in into a mid size pot. Well cover all the ingredients with water. - Bring the pot of water with ingredients to boiling with medium heat. - Once boiling, lower the heat and continually boil for 20 minutes or so. - Disregard He Shou Wu. Slightly flavor the soup with sea salt and serve. Medical function and chemical property of He Shou Wu: http://alternativehealing.org/he_shou_wu.htm 2. Dang Gui ( ?? )/ Yi Ren ( ? ? ) chicken soup: - Sink Yi Ren in water for 4 hours before use - Remove the skin of two chick legs. - Wash and rinse Dang Gui - Put Dang Gui, Yi Ren, and chick legs in a mid size pot. Well cover all ingredients with water. - Bring the pot of water with ingredients to boiling with medium heat. - Once boiling, lower the heat and continually boil for 30 minutes or so. - disregard Dang Gui. Slightly flavor the soup with sea salt and serve. (You can also replace Yi Ren with Huang Qi " ?? " and/or Qou Qi Zi " ??? " in this recipe. Disregard Huang Qi before serving the soup. Ginger is optional. But I always like to use it for the soups. Ginger makes the herbal soups taste better, and it helps with digestion.) Dang Gui: http://alternativehealing.org/dang_gui.htm Yi Zen: http://alternativehealing.org/yi_yi_ren.htm Huang Qi: http://alternativehealing.org/huang_qin.htm Qou Qi Zi: http://alternativehealing.org/qi_zi.htm (Yi Zen is rich in vitamin B1; Dang Gui is rich in B12 and folic acid. Huang Qi has antimicrobial property. Qou Qi Zi boosts immune system.) 3. Huang Qi broth: You can also use low heat to boil Huang Qi and ginger for sometime to make broth. If you like your broth to have a sweet taste, then you can throw in some Qou Qi Zi. Disregard Quang Qi and ginger, and use this broth for cooking your regular soups. The herbal integrants are of dry herbs. These are common herbs; you can find them at Chinese herb stores. Let the people in the stores know that the number of people you will be cooking for and how many times you will be making the soups. They will pack all the ingredients of the same recipe into small packs. Each pack is meant for one-time use for the number of people to whom you serve the soup. Have fun trying the recipes. Limin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 16:08 To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Iron deficiency > Limin, > > Would you mind posting recipe to the group? I would love a new recipe > from my usual > bone broth! > Thanks! > Kathy > > >> > >> > Thank you, . He took pork liver cooked in Chinese herbal soup >> when he was littler. Your message just remind me to make the herbal >> soup for him again. The soup contains several Chinese herbs that are >> traditionally used to increase red blood cell account, increase blood >> flow, and treat anemia. >> > >> > Limin >> > >> > >> > >> > From: w3m1@ >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 07:47 >> > To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >> > Subject: Re: Iron deficiency >> > >> > >> > Maybe organic dessicated liver would help. lisa >> > >> > >> > Iron deficiency >> > >> > >> > In preparation for staring Artemisia to treat Babesia, I run some >> lab tests to understand my son's iron status. He has iron >> deficiency. His level of ferritin (iron storage) is really low (10 >> v.s. the reference range 22 - 322). Though he does not seem to have >> developed anemia, as his amount of hemoglobin in the blood is within >> the reference range, so are TIBC, UIBC, serum iron, iron saturation >> rate in the blood, and serum transferrin. He takes large amount of >> green leafy vegetables, but dislike other iron-rich food such red >> meats and egg. I will still need to supplement him with iron to >> boost iron storage before introducing Artemisia. Do you recommend a >> particular brand of iron supplement? I hope to find one that is bio- >> available and highly absorbable. Thank you. >> > >> > Limin >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- >> ------------ >> > Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations FREE while you >> browse.Start Listening Now! >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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