Re: A fool and their money

[Guest guest]

Sidhems,

Yes he started on his own, but look at the attention that he is drawing. Just because he didn't ask for help doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it. Everybody is allowed to pick the causes that interest them. I can't contribute to everything that I would like to, so I pick and choose. And I lean toward those who don't ask, or market, but have a real passion in what they're doing. And, usually on a more personal level. I'll contribute to the kid who has cancer at my daughter's school, or local shelters, before I donate to a national organization. If you feel this isn't worth your time or money, then don't contribute. I think your time would be better spent hassling those who don't contribute to anything.

Terry

[Guest guest]

Sometimes it takes money for food and shelter. He has sponsors for gear and stuff, but what a bout a home to come to. How about some money to get his family out to see him during his trip from time to time. Terry

[Guest guest]

I agree to a degree. Someone posted earlier about the family needing a new computer and DSL because she was using dial up.. *gasp* I build websites and run a forum with almost 1400 members, am online 24/7 and guess what.. I use dial up. I wish someone would donate a satellite dish to me to help me. I run a non-profit diet support forum, free to anyone to use, and it costs me about $500 a year to keep it up and running, and that's not counting the special things I do for my members, all out of my own pocket. I do have a thread on my diet forum to donate and help Steve, but my goal is to help with lodging expenses. I think what he is doing is admirable and will get a lot of people motivated to get up and move more. (although I don't expect anyone to move as much as HE is, or at least as FAR as he is), I think there are a lot of extremely obese people out here that don't think they can do any exercising due to their weight (owning a diet forum, I hear these stories far too often, I can't because it hurts my feet/knees, there's no exercise I can do without pain).. Steve is showing a lot of overweight people that even though it hurts, the reward is FAR worth it. JUST DO IT. I also would love for my forum members to meet up with Steve for motivation for themselves AND him, if he would be coming by my house, I would certainly go offer him a walking partner for a few miles and something cold to drink and a meal and nights sleep if it was necessary. I also think Steve is going to have to work on his eating habits, as you pointed out, his choices may still be poor, but at this point, he is probably burning about 4000-4500 calories per day, and can afford to eat that way and still lose weight. It's not something I recommend to my members. Everything in moderation, food is very important to keep in moderation, you can still have the occasional 'treat', but a smaller portion of it. I will support him and his family emotional and hopefully with a few nights in a warm, comfy hotel, but I agree that everyone just throwing money and gifts is wrong. I support a family of 5 in California on less then low income, I make sacrifices and do what I can, and we life a comfortable life, but ultimately we are each responsible for our own lives and need to work for our money. Now if he wants to take the support of a big company, in return for using his story/images, that's fine by me. I don't think that's selling out at all. I think every professional athlete has big companies backing them, why shouldn't Steve, but I do think it should be a product that he BELIEVES IN, not just one that offers him the most money. Something far greater than I can imagine is on its way. Bonnie~ Visit my Tatouage Consultant Site A fool and their moneyHelping Steve out with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he says he can always get another car, or another house. There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out there that that will want to "tell me off" but Steve isn't the first person to ever do this type of thing, he is just the first to advertise it on the internet.Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing wieght.Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.

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That's the kind of things he/they should have taken into consideration before he started this. He/they chose to go ahead with this, knowing they didn't have the proper funds, accessories, and what have you, to do so.

I will gladly walk with him when he comes through my state. I will bring him water and maybe some clean clothes, if I have the money at the time. I will lend my emotional support and give him kudos for his accomplishments.

They chose to do this, at this time, so I don't feel any sympathy for what they may be going through.

Tammytmte123@... wrote:

Sometimes it takes money for food and shelter. He has sponsors for gear and stuff, but what a bout a home to come to. How about some money to get his family out to see him during his trip from time to time. Terry

[Guest guest]

Geesh Sid, this IS a support group for Steve... for someone to try and talk

folks out of giving him bucks is mind boggling to me. What's it to YA if

someone wants to donate? You don't have to give but don't try and talk folks

out of it - PLEASE... that seems a bit ethically-challenged to me.

I think Steve deserves a lot. Yes, HE AND LANCE AND JIM AND all the other

athletes who inspire us do take challenges as a personal choice but then, we

DO benefit from the inspiration these people give us by their own sacrifices

also...

or else, why are you here?

jus wonderin'

Sue

A fool and their money

> Helping Steve out with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.

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> BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just

> utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing

> that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he

> says he can always get another car, or another house.

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> There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help

> buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm

> talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of

> layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve

> chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his

> stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.

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> Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out

> there that that will want to " tell me off " but Steve isn't the first

> person to ever do this type of thing, he is just the first to

> advertise it on the internet.

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> Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it

> mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered

> in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.

> Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing

> wieght.

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> Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this

> guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.

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[Guest guest]

Not to start a debate or anything, I don't think the original posters intent was to talk people OUT of anything, just helping people be SMART in what they are doing. If Steve didn't have his finances in order before he left, so that he COULD get to where he's going, it's a bad time to start doing it now. In other words, I don't think finances/money/cold hard cash, is what they are in NEED OF. They need physical & emotional help, people to keep him motivated, people to open their homes (or if not a home maybe a hotel). People to walk with him, or follow behind with water and supplies so that he doesn't have the burden of carrying them. THOSE would be helpful ideas, and for those of us who can not offer him a bed or meal along the way, I will try to get enough support to offer a hotel room at the very least. Sure, he has his tent, but emotionally & physically, I am sure he would welcome a hotel room when offered. Sometimes support isn't always in the form of money!~ Just consider your donations before you make them. If the family didn't have the means in which to start this journey, they shouldn't have started, so that tells me that they do have their ducks in a row, and need the physical and emotional support from the rest of us. Something far greater than I can imagine is on its way. Bonnie~ Visit my Tatouage Consultant Site A fool and their money> Helping Steve out with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.>> BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just> utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing> that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he> says he can always get another car, or another house.>> There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help> buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm> talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of> layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve> chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his> stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.>> Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out> there that that will want to "tell me off" but Steve isn't the first> person to ever do this type of thing, he is just the first to> advertise it on the internet.>> Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it> mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered> in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.> Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing> wieght.>> Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this> guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

When you are objecting to the request for computer equipment etc ON STEVE's SUPPORT SITE, it is rather questionable for you to be using this site to advertise your business.

As for exercising:

You know, I know LOTS of fat people who TRY to exercise, try to get on their bicycles and ride and you know they get garbage thrown at them and cat calls from the mean society which treats fat people worse than lepers were treated in Biblical times. Maybe THAT'S THE REAL reason some of them get discouraged.

Here's a final FYI for you.... 25 percent of the population exercises enough to affect their health - that's 3 times a week, 30 minutes per time. 5 percent of the population exercises enough to affect their weight - that's 6-7 times a week, 60 minutes or more a day.

20 percent of the population is severely obese (BMI over 30). 7 percent of the population is morbidly obese (BMI over 40).

So if your dieting myths hold, that means the other 80 percent of the population who is NOT obese should be exercising enough to affect their weight, right?

But in fact ONLY FIVE PERCENT of the population is exercising enough to affect their weight... so you see, most of those who DO NOT EXERCISE are slim...hello to genetics? So if you got good genetics, rejoice but not all of us are that lucky so keep that in mind.

And please try and be more respectful to Steve and April... this IS their support site and we ARE their guests.

just a reminder from a fellow visitor,

Sue

A fool and their money

Helping Steve out with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he says he can always get another car, or another house. There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out there that that will want to "tell me off" but Steve isn't the first person to ever do this type of thing, he is just the first to advertise it on the internet.Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing wieght.Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.

[Guest guest]

Tammy wrote:

"That's the kind of things he/they should have taken into consideration before he started this. He/they chose to go ahead with this, knowing they didn't have the proper funds, accessories, and what have you, to do so."

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[Guest guest]

Excuse me, but you're way off base here. I am not objecting to anything, nor am I advertising any business on this site. My suggestion that April didn't NEED DSL or anything other then dial up was stated as a fact. As unbelievable as it may seem, there are more then a few people who still have to use the old fashioned way of getting online, yes, it's sometimes a pain, but it's not a burden by any means. And given the amount of work I do on my computer with dial up, I didn't feel that a new computer or DSL was necessary, not as necessary as say a warm shower or soft bed would be. Now I haven't read all the posts on this forum, but I haven't seen anywhere that April OR Steve request cash OR computer equipment from any of us, so how could I be objecting to any REQUEST?? I know the realities of obese-ness in our country, I support hundreds of overweight people every day, and have done it for over 2 years now with my own money. I showed no disrespect to anyone. This is a public forum, and forum is defined as, "A public meeting place for open discussion." All we are doing is having an open discussion. In Steve's own words on his own site, he says, "I have established a yahoo group about this walk. I was thinking that it might be a good forum for people to voice their opinions, tell there stories or do whatever else they would like to. So please take a look." Take a step back and voice your opinions here, don't attack us for voicing ours! Something far greater than I can imagine is on its way. Bonnie~ Visit my Tatouage Consultant Site A fool and their moneyHelping Steve out with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he says he can always get another car, or another house. There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out there that that will want to "tell me off" but Steve isn't the first person to ever do this type of thing, he is just the first to advertise it on the internet.Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing wieght.Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.

[Guest guest]

Got to agree with Sue... It is a support group... No one has to agree, if a person does not wish to donate, then don't no biggy, but do not feel you as a person must judge others who do wish to help...

~Ohio kisses Keep truckn' Steve,

~abbieSueW wrote:

Geesh Sid, this IS a support group for Steve... for someone to try and talkfolks out of giving him bucks is mind boggling to me. What's it to YA ifsomeone wants to donate? You don't have to give but don't try and talk folksout of it - PLEASE... that seems a bit ethically-challenged to me.I think Steve deserves a lot. Yes, HE AND LANCE AND JIM AND all the otherathletes who inspire us do take challenges as a personal choice but then, weDO benefit from the inspiration these people give us by their own sacrificesalso...or else, why are you here?jus wonderin'Sue A fool and their money> Helping Steve out

with food and water, shelter and such is fantastic.>> BUT, giving this guy and his family money to pay their bills is just> utterly mind boggling. Steve started this stunt ON HIS OWN knowing> that it would be a hardship on him financialy. In his own words he> says he can always get another car, or another house.>> There are thousands of families in the U.S.A. that could use help> buying food and clothes and school supplys for their kids. I'm> talking about men or women who have lost their jobs because of> layoffs or a dead-beat parent etc. People that had no choise. Steve> chose to walk away. Helping him to do anything beyond surviving his> stunt, is only going to encourage them to take the easy way out.>> Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS, and I know all the bleeding hearts out> there that that will want to "tell me off" but Steve isn't the first> person to ever do this type of

thing, he is just the first to> advertise it on the internet.>> Just another thought, when reading an artical about Steve, it> mentioned his selection for his meal of chicken fried steak smothered> in gravey, and then breakfast of biskets and gravey the next day.> Is this the sign of someone that is serious about really losing> wieght.>> Think about it folks, if your thinking about donations to help this> guy, just remember that he started this on his own, no one forced him.>>>>>>>>