Re: possible carbon monoxide poisoning case from home oil fired boiler

[Guest guest]

You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

Sally

mcollins2001uk wrote:

>

> if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to disconnect it.

> Margaret

>

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> traced it

> > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> Fruday by

> > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep

> the

> > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount

> of

> > soot was removed last year.

> >

> > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor

> and I

> > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead

> to

> > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> >

> > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to

> hear

> > from you and exchange notes

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I will be calling the man who checked the boiler this morning. He said

he smelled oil as soon as he entered the house.

It seems like a good idea to purchase a carbon monoxide alarm for the

winter months during which the house windows are closed.

Thank for your input :-)))

mcollins2001uk schrieb:

>

> if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to disconnect it.

> Margaret

>

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> traced it

> > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> Fruday by

> > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep

> the

> > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount

> of

> > soot was removed last year.

> >

> > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor

> and I

> > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead

> to

> > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> >

> > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to

> hear

> > from you and exchange notes

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could there be a

very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to make them sick?

Eva family schrieb:

>

> You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> Sally

>

> mcollins2001uk wrote:

> >

> > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to disconnect it.

> > Margaret

> >

> > >

> > > Hi guys,

> > >

> > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> > traced it

> > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > Fruday by

> > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep

> > the

> > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount

> > of

> > > soot was removed last year.

> > >

> > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor

> > and I

> > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead

> > to

> > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> > >

> > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to

> > hear

> > > from you and exchange notes

> > > Best,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret says the

boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility at all.

But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes headaches,

drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I think.

I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's heavier

than air and collects at floor level.

Sally

JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

>

> There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could there be a

> very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to make them sick?

>

>

> Eva family schrieb:

> >

> > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > Sally

> >

> > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > >

> > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to disconnect it.

> > > Margaret

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi guys,

> > > >

> > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> > > traced it

> > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > > Fruday by

> > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep

> > > the

> > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount

> > > of

> > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor

> > > and I

> > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead

> > > to

> > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to

> > > hear

> > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > Best,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of soot from

the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air quality

expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I wonder

if this is the source of the problem.

Eva family schrieb:

>

> There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret says the

> boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility at all.

> But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes headaches,

> drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I think.

> I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's heavier

> than air and collects at floor level.

> Sally

>

> JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> >

> > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could there be a

> > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to make them

> sick?

> >

> >

> > Eva family schrieb:

> > >

> > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > >

> > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to disconnect it.

> > > > Margaret

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > >

> > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> > > > traced it

> > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > > > Fruday by

> > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep

> > > > the

> > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large

> amount

> > > > of

> > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > >

> > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor

> > > > and I

> > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler.

> From the

> > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead

> > > > to

> > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> > > > >

> > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to

> > > > hear

> > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > Best,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on our gas

fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was unsafe.

I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive for them

at the moment, but I guess all energy is

Sally

JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

>

> Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of soot from

> the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air quality

> expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I wonder

> if this is the source of the problem.

>

> Eva family schrieb:

> >

> > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret says the

> > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility at all.

> > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes headaches,

> > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I think.

> > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's heavier

> > than air and collects at floor level.

> > Sally

> >

> > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > >

> > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> there be a

> > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to make them

> > sick?

> > >

> > >

> > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > >

> > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> disconnect it.

> > > > > Margaret

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> > > > > traced it

> > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and

> to keep

> > > > > the

> > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large

> > amount

> > > > > of

> > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been

> poor

> > > > > and I

> > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler.

> > From the

> > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can

> lead

> > > > > to

> > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would

> love to

> > > > > hear

> > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > Best,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> >

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[Guest guest]

The soot would also have had a dangerous tendency to block the vent

Sally

Eva family wrote:

>

> I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on our gas

> fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was unsafe.

> I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive for them

> at the moment, but I guess all energy is

>

> Sally

>

> JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> >

> > Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of soot from

> > the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air quality

> > expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I wonder

> > if this is the source of the problem.

> >

> > Eva family schrieb:

> > >

> > > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret

> says the

> > > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility

> at all.

> > > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes headaches,

> > > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I

> think.

> > > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's heavier

> > > than air and collects at floor level.

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > >

> > > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> > there be a

> > > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to make them

> > > sick?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > >

> > > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > > Sally

> > > > >

> > > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> > disconnect it.

> > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have

> > > > > > traced it

> > > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is

> housed in a

> > > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and

> > to keep

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large

> > > amount

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been

> > poor

> > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler.

> > > From the

> > > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can

> > lead

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would

> > love to

> > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > > Best,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Sally,

They have a pre-arranged doctor's appointment this morning and I have

told them to bring the subject of the boiler leakage up. Do you have any

idea what tests they should have done? I know my mother had a blood test

done at some time to measure oxygen in the blood. It showed low levels.

Eva family schrieb:

>

> The soot would also have had a dangerous tendency to block the vent

> Sally

>

> Eva family wrote:

> >

> > I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on our gas

> > fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was unsafe.

> > I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive for them

> > at the moment, but I guess all energy is

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > >

> > > Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of

> soot from

> > > the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air

> quality

> > > expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I wonder

> > > if this is the source of the problem.

> > >

> > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > >

> > > > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret

> > says the

> > > > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility

> > at all.

> > > > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes headaches,

> > > > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I

> > think.

> > > > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's

> heavier

> > > > than air and collects at floor level.

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> > > there be a

> > > > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to

> make them

> > > > sick?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > > > Sally

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would have been

> > > > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> > > disconnect it.

> > > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we

> have

> > > > > > > traced it

> > > > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is

> > housed in a

> > > > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was

> > > > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and

> > > to keep

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large

> > > > amount

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been

> > > poor

> > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler.

> > > > From the

> > > > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can

> > > lead

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its

> proximity.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would

> > > love to

> > > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > > > Best,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

I don't -- tell the doctor and ask for tests? I think (dimly) that CO2

suffocates you but CO is actively poisonous. How to look for it and how

long it stays in the body I do not know

Sally

JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

>

> Sally,

>

> They have a pre-arranged doctor's appointment this morning and I have

> told them to bring the subject of the boiler leakage up. Do you have any

> idea what tests they should have done? I know my mother had a blood test

> done at some time to measure oxygen in the blood. It showed low levels.

>

>

>

> Eva family schrieb:

> >

> > The soot would also have had a dangerous tendency to block the vent

> > Sally

> >

> > Eva family wrote:

> > >

> > > I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on

> our gas

> > > fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was

> unsafe.

> > > I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive

> for them

> > > at the moment, but I guess all energy is

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of

> > soot from

> > > > the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air

> > quality

> > > > expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I

> wonder

> > > > if this is the source of the problem.

> > > >

> > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > >

> > > > > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret

> > > says the

> > > > > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility

> > > at all.

> > > > > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes

> headaches,

> > > > > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas fires/boilers I

> > > think.

> > > > > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's

> > heavier

> > > > > than air and collects at floor level.

> > > > > Sally

> > > > >

> > > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> > > > there be a

> > > > > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to

> > make them

> > > > > sick?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > > > > Sally

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would

> have been

> > > > > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> > > > disconnect it.

> > > > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we

> > have

> > > > > > > > traced it

> > > > > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is

> > > housed in a

> > > > > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen.

> It was

> > > > > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and

> > > > to keep

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a

> large

> > > > > amount

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health

> has been

> > > > poor

> > > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler.

> > > > > From the

> > > > > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired

> boiler can

> > > > lead

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its

> > proximity.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would

> > > > love to

> > > > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > > > > Best,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

There will be all sorts of pollution in the gases -- particulates etc --

think of what comes out of the back of a lorry -- when you see smoke

there is a lot else. Soot is just particulates I guess

Sally

Eva family wrote:

>

> I don't -- tell the doctor and ask for tests? I think (dimly) that CO2

> suffocates you but CO is actively poisonous. How to look for it and how

> long it stays in the body I do not know

> Sally

>

> JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> >

> > Sally,

> >

> > They have a pre-arranged doctor's appointment this morning and I have

> > told them to bring the subject of the boiler leakage up. Do you have any

> > idea what tests they should have done? I know my mother had a blood test

> > done at some time to measure oxygen in the blood. It showed low levels.

> >

> >

> >

> > Eva family schrieb:

> > >

> > > The soot would also have had a dangerous tendency to block the vent

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > Eva family wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on

> > our gas

> > > > fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was

> > unsafe.

> > > > I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive

> > for them

> > > > at the moment, but I guess all energy is

> > > >

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of

> > > soot from

> > > > > the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air

> > > quality

> > > > > expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I

> > wonder

> > > > > if this is the source of the problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret

> > > > says the

> > > > > > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility

> > > > at all.

> > > > > > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes

> > headaches,

> > > > > > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas

> fires/boilers I

> > > > think.

> > > > > > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's

> > > heavier

> > > > > > than air and collects at floor level.

> > > > > > Sally

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> > > > > there be a

> > > > > > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to

> > > make them

> > > > > > sick?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > > > > > Sally

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would

> > have been

> > > > > > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> > > > > disconnect it.

> > > > > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we

> > > have

> > > > > > > > > traced it

> > > > > > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is

> > > > housed in a

> > > > > > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen.

> > It was

> > > > > > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is

> leaking and

> > > > > to keep

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a

> > large

> > > > > > amount

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health

> > has been

> > > > > poor

> > > > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned

> boiler.

> > > > > > From the

> > > > > > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired

> > boiler can

> > > > > lead

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its

> > > proximity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I

> would

> > > > > love to

> > > > > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > > > > > Best,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG.

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> > Date:

> > > > > > > 31/08/2008 16:59

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > > > 31/08/2008 16:59

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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> > 31/08/2008 16:59

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have much faith in their doctors. If I were in Germany, I could

find an environmental doctor every quickly and get an appointment this

afternoon. In fact my doctor over there does precisely this. (He's the

one who pinpointed my adrenal problems through a blood test for DHEA and

it's been uphill since then for me health-wise.) The only person I know

about here is Dr. Myhill, who is 4 hours away by car and she is booked

up til next year. Hmm i think I'll check out her website to see if she

has anything on this issue.

I am totally frustrated.

But...maybe they'll come back from the doctor and tell me that they have

had the proper tests, whatever they may be.Hope springs eternal.

:-((

Eva family schrieb:

>

> I don't -- tell the doctor and ask for tests? I think (dimly) that CO2

> suffocates you but CO is actively poisonous. How to look for it and how

> long it stays in the body I do not know

> Sally

>

> JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> >

> > Sally,

> >

> > They have a pre-arranged doctor's appointment this morning and I have

> > told them to bring the subject of the boiler leakage up. Do you have any

> > idea what tests they should have done? I know my mother had a blood test

> > done at some time to measure oxygen in the blood. It showed low levels.

> >

> >

> >

> > Eva family schrieb:

> > >

> > > The soot would also have had a dangerous tendency to block the vent

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > Eva family wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I think that the soot is a sign of partial combustion -- soot on

> > our gas

> > > > fire meant that the gas wasn't burning properly and that it was

> > unsafe.

> > > > I don't know about oil combustion. -- it must be very expensive

> > for them

> > > > at the moment, but I guess all energy is

> > > >

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Accrording to my mother, the maintenance man took out loads of

> > > soot from

> > > > > the boiler or venting system. I'm just about to call up the Air

> > > quality

> > > > > expert at the council. My parents have been drowsy for years. I

> > wonder

> > > > > if this is the source of the problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There could be. A CO alarm is the way to tell. But as Margaret

> > > > says the

> > > > > > boilerman should have disconnected this if it were a possibility

> > > > at all.

> > > > > > But CO poisoning below fatal levels does occur -- causes

> > headaches,

> > > > > > drowsiness etc. All the way to death. Usually gas

> fires/boilers I

> > > > think.

> > > > > > I'm not sure if oil burners give off CO in the same way. It's

> > > heavier

> > > > > > than air and collects at floor level.

> > > > > > Sally

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is a strong smell of oil but come to think of it, could

> > > > > there be a

> > > > > > > very low level of CO not enough to kill them but enough to

> > > make them

> > > > > > sick?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You cannot smell CO which is why it is so dangerous.

> > > > > > > > Sally

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if they had found carbon monoxide leaking they would

> > have been

> > > > > > > > > legally obliged to condemn the boiler at once and to

> > > > > disconnect it.

> > > > > > > > > Margaret

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi guys,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we

> > > have

> > > > > > > > > traced it

> > > > > > > > > > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is

> > > > housed in a

> > > > > > > > > > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen.

> > It was

> > > > > > > > > Fruday by

> > > > > > > > > > a City Council employee who says the boiler is

> leaking and

> > > > > to keep

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a

> > large

> > > > > > amount

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > soot was removed last year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health

> > has been

> > > > > poor

> > > > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned

> boiler.

> > > > > > From the

> > > > > > > > > > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired

> > boiler can

> > > > > lead

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its

> > > proximity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I

> would

> > > > > love to

> > > > > > > > > hear

> > > > > > > > > > from you and exchange notes

> > > > > > > > > > Best,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi -

As everyone noted, a detector would be the first thing - you can get

one at Home Base or the other DIYs.

We had a problem with our oil fired AGA, fumes not exhausting properly

and we all got headaches, which didn't sound like nothing, but our CO

detectors were not going off.

In any event nothing serious happened and we got it sorted (altho we

had to live with it for a few weeks for various reasons related to

difficulty servicing it).

>

> Hi guys,

>

> There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have traced it

> to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was Fruday by

> a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep the

> wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount of

> soot was removed last year.

>

> Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor and I

> am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead to

> carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

>

> If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to hear

> from you and exchange notes

> Best,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's good to know that you got it sorted. Did you have any lab tests done?

zpapacarroll schrieb:

>

>

> Hi -

>

> As everyone noted, a detector would be the first thing - you can get

> one at Home Base or the other DIYs.

>

> We had a problem with our oil fired AGA, fumes not exhausting properly

> and we all got headaches, which didn't sound like nothing, but our CO

> detectors were not going off.

>

> In any event nothing serious happened and we got it sorted (altho we

> had to live with it for a few weeks for various reasons related to

> difficulty servicing it).

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > There has been a strong smell in my parent's home and we have traced it

> > to the oil fired boiler which as usual in the U.K is housed in a

> > cupboard on the main floor, in our case, the kitchen. It was Fruday by

> > a City Council employee who says the boiler is leaking and to keep the

> > wndows open until help comes. My mother recalls that a large amount of

> > soot was removed last year.

> >

> > Has anyone had a similar problem? My parents health has been poor and I

> > am beginning to suspect a connect with this damned boiler. From the

> > little research I can find, a leak in a oil fired boiler can lead to

> > carbon monoxide poisoning in those that live in its proximity.

> >

> > If anyone has been poisoned by a oil fired boiler, I would love to hear

> > from you and exchange notes

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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