Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 " Iris M. Gray " wrote: > I was watching an old > episode of " Star Trek: The Next Generation " recently, and I saw many signs > that the character Barclay could be AC. He has no visible social skills, > he prefers to work on his own, and the other characters make fun of him. > He can't look people in the face when he talks to them. Barclay seems to have been invented for comic relief, so that other characters and viewers could make fun of him. That seems unfortunate; I think if they'd consciously invented an ASD character, s/he would have been presented much more sympathetically. That said, he seems more a case of social anxiety disorder to me. He's *nervous* when interacting with people. In my experience, Aspies are, instead, blunt because we either don't know or don't care what vibes we're giving off. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 At 01:34 PM 1/10/03 -0800, Iris M. Gray wrote: >I was watching an old >episode of " Star Trek: The Next Generation " recently, and I saw many signs >that the character Barclay could be AC. Data. Definitely Data. And ... oh, whats-her-name... Six of Nine? On that other Star Trek show. >Any opinions? Anya on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I've mentioned her before on this list. She's always very blunt and people get insulted or hurt by the things she says because she doesn't understand human emotions and social graces. But she's very clever with money and was able to triple her money by investing it. The most aspie show with her is the one where Buffy's mother dies and Anya keeps trying to get people to explain what's going on. Another TV character I've been following who is not AC but has some interesting shadow characteristics is the lead character of the show " Doe. " For those who aren't familiar with the show, he woke up on an island off the coast near Seattle one day with total amnesia...well, almost total. He knows everything. Except who he is. The reason I say he has shadow characteristics is because whenever he gets nervous, he starts spouting off random trivial facts like " the human fingernail grows 3.8 times faster than the human toenail. " When he tries to socialize with women, he ends up getting funny looks from them because he'll engage in " light social banter " on the level of explaining the chemical processes of their perfume to them. One woman, a super-intelligent, geekly, possibly aspie, woman who works in the police force has repeatedly tried to get his romantic attention but he's oblivious to her intent. I'm very into the show Doe right now. A new episode comes on tonight. I can't get enough of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 > Anya on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I've mentioned her before on this > list. She's always very blunt and people get insulted or hurt by the > things she says because she doesn't understand human emotions and social > graces. But she's very clever with money and was able to triple her > money by investing it. The most aspie show with her is the one where > Buffy's mother dies and Anya keeps trying to get people to explain > what's going on. Duh! I totally forgot about Anya. Of course. She is classic, and I adore her for her bluntness. Iris Gray, Puff, Calli and Munchkin Proud to be Canuckistanian Personal website: http://victoria.tc.ca/~rainbow/ Toastmasters website: http://victoria.tc.ca/Community/Bb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Iris wrote: >Sometimes I see discussions of famous people who are suspected of being on >the spectrum. I was wondering if any of you have seen characters on TV >shows who have signs of being on the spectrum. Seems to me that I watch a lot of TV, yet I never seem to know what people are talking about when they talk about TV shows. I guess I just don't watch the right stuff. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Would have to agree re Barclay. I have often thought that. But I haven't seen Gil Grissom specifically. CSI is on this week, so I will watch with that in mind. sandi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 I don't have a TV, so only know what I hear from other people. I had thought that a character on CSI was actually supposed to be autistic, and that there had been a story line about in one of the shows or something. Maybe I misunderstood though. Norah > > Reply-To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:47:20 +0800 > To: <AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse > > Subject: Re: ACs on TV? > > Would have to agree re Barclay. I have often thought that. But I haven't > seen Gil Grissom specifically. CSI is on this week, so I will watch with > that in mind. > sandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Norah Willett wrote: > I don't have a TV, so only know what I hear from other people. I had > thought that a character on CSI was actually supposed to be autistic, and > that there had been a story line about in one of the shows or something. > Maybe I misunderstood though. No, that was accurate. On one episode, there was a character that was autistic. His acute sense of touch was key in solving the crime, once the investigators quit looking at him as a suspect. His character, though, was not a recurring one in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 > I don't have a TV, so only know what I hear from other people. I had > thought that a character on CSI was actually supposed to be autistic, and > that there had been a story line about in one of the shows or something. > Maybe I misunderstood though. There was an autistic character in one episode. That was all. He was suspected of the crime for awhile, because he was " different. " But he had a photographic memory, and that helped solve it. Iris Iris Gray, Puff, Calli and Munchkin Proud to be Canuckistanian Personal website: http://victoria.tc.ca/~rainbow/ Toastmasters website: http://victoria.tc.ca/Community/Bb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 First, my operating system seems to have allocated limited memory for exact names. I've even forgotten the names of authors whose books I've read, let alone remember the names of all but the most oft-repeated celebs. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that worshipping movie stars, pop stars, TV presenters, footballers etc. epitmosises NTdom, but many aspies feel a need to somehow believe in someone. Maybe these remote self-confident stars, earning at least 1 US$ million per annum, really do care! After all they can afford it. Some may even deserve their reputation, others were just in the right place at the right time with the right attitude and above all charisma. Some aspie-like individuals may occasionally strike it lucky, but remember they're just acting. Anyway, I'll get back to re-reading " Amusing Ourselves to Death " by Neil Postman. I just got from the library and can now view many things in a different light. More on that later. Several points in the book, written back in 1988, relate to the power of nonverbal communication. Yes, it really does matter how the person advertising toothpaste smiles and conveys confidence and authority. Companies spend millions on new logos...... yet they don't make an iota of difference to the quality of their products... Neil ACs on TV? > Sometimes I see discussions of famous people who are suspected of being on > the spectrum. I was wondering if any of you have seen characters on TV > shows who have signs of being on the spectrum. I was watching an old > episode of " Star Trek: The Next Generation " recently, and I saw many signs > that the character Barclay could be AC. He has no visible social skills, > he prefers to work on his own, and the other characters make fun of him. > He can't look people in the face when he talks to them. > > Another character from a current TV show is Gil Grissom from CSI. He has > great problems interacting with people on anything but a professional > level. For example, he had no clue one of the people he worked with was a > vegetarian, because it didn't affect her work. His few attempts at > romantic relationships have ended in disaster. He has a perseveration > about insects. > > Any opinions? > > Iris > > Iris Gray, Puff, Calli and Munchkin > Proud to be Canuckistanian > Personal website: http://victoria.tc.ca/~rainbow/ > Toastmasters website: http://victoria.tc.ca/Community/Bb/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 --- Neil Gardner wrote: > First, my operating system seems to have allocated > limited memory for exact > names. I've even forgotten the names of authors > whose books I've read, let > alone remember the names of all but the most > oft-repeated celebs. > > I may be wrong, but it seems to me that worshipping > movie stars, pop stars, > TV presenters, footballers etc. epitmosises NTdom, > but many aspies feel a > need to somehow believe in someone. -------Hey Neil; You've mentioned this in a similar thread before, and I'll say again, that I hardly think knowing the names of some authors and actors automatically means " worship " . Thats a huge leap. Some of us enjoy/like creative people, whether they be artists, authors, actors, whatever. I dont know why you always have to be so insulting about this. Nanne ===== " Instead of going to an office and working, he went for long walks inside himself using his body as a map. " --- Ianthe Brautigan, on her father Brautigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 Neil wrote: >First, my operating system seems to have allocated limited memory for exact >names. I've even forgotten the names of authors whose books I've read, let >alone remember the names of all but the most oft-repeated celebs. I have a hard time with names, period, and that definitely includes authors whose books I've read. I just responded to a post from Iris with a book recommendation. I was able to give her the title and author because I happened to know which shelf that book was on. (And because I bought that book back before I forced myself to stop buying books and switch to the library.) I rely on lists at lot, and if I don't put the thing/name-to-be-remembered on a list (and keep the list where I can find it), it's gone. >Some aspie-like individuals may occasionally strike it lucky, but remember >they're just acting. Anyway, I'll get back to re-reading " Amusing Ourselves >to Death " by Neil Postman. I just got from the library and can now view many >things in a different light. I found that book fascinating. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2003 Report Share Posted January 11, 2003 At 08:50 AM 1/11/03 -0800, Jane Meyerding wrote: >I have a hard time with names, period, and that definitely >includes authors whose books I've read. I just responded to >a post from Iris with a book recommendation. I was able to >give her the title and author because I happened to know >which shelf that book was on. I was able to give the name of the author of " Guns of the South " because I looked it up on Amazon.com as I was posting. :-) I'm rarely able to remember names of authos I've read once and I often find myself struggling for the names of my very favorite authors that I've read many times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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