Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Hello, I have just seen this article in the Scotsman Newspaper, a doctor is recommending that suppliments and herbal medicine be treated like pharmaceuticals after the death of a patient who used glucosamine. http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk/Call-for-regulation-of-herbal.3838383.jp Your comments would be appreciated. Thank you Ian in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 What is my comment? A bit like the blue man really, I am sure that after reading a story like that, the majority of Scots will never go near Glucosamine and that is a real shame. Stories like this although they contain no factual information are believed by most. Rumours and personal opinions have no place in real journalism but real journalism is a thing of the past. Perhaps after some relief from the glucosamine, the patient decided to celebrate with a bottle of whisky :-) We could do with some rain, not only on the plain. Cheers, Ian in Spain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:12 am (PST) Jane wrote: Ian thanks for this link - I have forwarded it to many people now, everyone should listen to it - I am very surprised that DDT is OK! The information, much of which we are aware, is put together in the most excellent and intelligent way, that Stan Monteith is still alive is truly amazing. It does show us exactly why they would want to eliminate all alternative and natural medicine, perhaps especially homeopathy, as this is very effective in reversing unusual symptomology. As for Glucosamine, it is highly unlikely that this has suddenly caused such fast destruction of the liver, more likely to be something quite different, but doubtless we will never know what other intake these patients have in common - Glucosamine and Chitosan both have the capacity to affect those who have shellfish allergies, Chondroitin possibly too. But allergic responses do not usually manifest in this way. Is it possible that these products were contaminated? If so you would think that there would be a more widespread outbreak of death through liver damage wouldn't you? Ian on the plains - what is your comment? Best, Jane plain speaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 True - I was reading our water capacities today we are 34% full only & we/they're on stage 3 water restrictions for another three years - terrible to reduce the fluoride contamination of the environment in this way eh? Trouble is I'm on tank water - knew there was some reason I'm still awake .................zzzzzzzz What do you say about the Stan Monteith thing? It must have been good I listened to it all, had dinner at 11pm and even made notes .... Jane Re: glucosamine death > What is my comment? > > A bit like the blue man really, I am sure that after reading a story like > that, the majority of Scots will never go near > Glucosamine and that is a real shame. Stories like this although they > contain no factual information are believed by > most. Rumours and personal opinions have no place in real journalism but > real journalism is a thing of the past. > > Perhaps after some relief from the glucosamine, the patient decided to > celebrate with a bottle of whisky :-) > > We could do with some rain, not only on the plain. > > Cheers, > Ian in Spain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Tue Mar 4, 2008 3:12 am (PST) Jane wrote: > Ian thanks for this link - I have forwarded it to many people now, > everyone > should listen to it - I am very surprised that DDT is OK! > > The information, much of which we are aware, is put together in the most > excellent and intelligent way, that Stan Monteith is still alive is truly > amazing. > > It does show us exactly why they would want to eliminate all alternative > and > > natural medicine, perhaps especially homeopathy, as this is very effective > in reversing unusual symptomology. > > As for Glucosamine, it is highly unlikely that this has suddenly caused > such > > fast destruction of the liver, more likely to be something quite > different, > but doubtless we will never know what other intake these patients have in > common - Glucosamine and Chitosan both have the capacity to affect those > who > > have shellfish allergies, Chondroitin possibly too. But allergic responses > do not usually manifest in this way. Is it possible that these products > were > > contaminated? If so you would think that there would be a more widespread > outbreak of death through liver damage wouldn't you? Ian on the plains - > what is your comment? > > Best, > > Jane plain speaking > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 You wouldn't happened to be related to Dr. Carl Baugh on TBN would you? Just was wondering. I really enjoy his knowledge and shows. Baugh wrote: Hi, Then in my opinion, that doctor (?), should be the one to prove what he 'thinks' happened. Can't go on guesswork and get anywhere. Now, on the other hand, we should keep in mind how many people are killed by prescription drugs and still allowed to be sold. These have known side effects and many deaths. I don't see that doctor or any of his ilk getting concerned. So, in lieu of the doctor's blindness, we first to need to compare the death rate of glucosamine to prescription drugs. Next, this needs to be followed to find out what caused the patient's death, other than speculation. Their usual is, if anyone dies, they immediately ask if they took anything alternative and if so, that has to be the reason for death, ignoring all other things. Disgusting! Jean ******************* > I have just seen this article in the Scotsman Newspaper, a doctor is > recommending that suppliments and herbal medicine be treated like > pharmaceuticals after the death of a patient who used glucosamine. > > http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk/Call-for-regulation-of-herbal.3838383.jp > > Your comments would be appreciated. > Thank you > Ian in Spain. > y (Beam me up, Captain!) --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Homeopathic Arnica 200C - I wouldn't bother with anything else at all I mean where would you put the DMSO? or the Miracle II gel? Jane Re: glucosamine death > > >> Sorry about not changing the subject line. My server is merging with >> google, and their email hasn't been working properly, so am trying to do >> this on the web. When I hit reply it pops up and I don't even see a >> subject >> line to change. > > > > Anyway--here's my question? > > My friend just called me and said that her husband had a stroke yesterday > (they are in another state). It's called a hemoratic stroke, meaning a > blood vessel broke. It is on his left side of the brain as his right side > is effected. He is not totally paralyzed but can move his right side > still, > just not real coordinated. He apparently talks pretty good, but doesn't > remember things. Like they will ask him what year it is and he always > answers 1965, but then he says he knows it's not 65 but can't remember the > year. They told her it was good that he realized he was not remembering > correctly. He has difficulty swallowing so they are thinking about > putting > in a feeding tube as he could swallow food down into his lungs, though the > therapists did get him to eat a little bit of food. He had the blood leak > into the brain last night, but this morning they didn't find any new blood > so said that they would hold off putting a stent in. > > Isn't DMSO good for strokes? I just can't remember what all to do, as I > have never dealt personally with a stroke before. So my knowledge is > limited. > > She said because he refused to let her call an ambulance (sigh--why do > wives > listen to that kind of crap?) it was about an hour after the stroke before > he consented to letter her call. She said that she did give him 3 baby > asprins before the ambulance got there. What they have given him in the > hospital I have no idea. > > samala, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Dunno. Just seems to me I remember reading somewhere that DMSO is good for a stroke. It crosses the blood brain barrier. Maybe drink it? But of course, for right now, he's having trouble swallowing. samala, > > Homeopathic Arnica 200C - I wouldn't bother with anything else at all > > I mean where would you put the DMSO? or the Miracle II gel? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Rub it on his head with Gel - " hair conditioner " ????? Re: glucosamine death > Dunno. Just seems to me I remember reading somewhere that DMSO is good > for > a stroke. It crosses the blood brain barrier. Maybe drink it? But of > course, for right now, he's having trouble swallowing. > > samala, > > > >> >> Homeopathic Arnica 200C - I wouldn't bother with anything else at all >> >> I mean where would you put the DMSO? or the Miracle II gel? >> >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 They give DMSO in an IV solution for strokes. I suppose you would have to be in the right hospital with the right doctor in the emergency ward to be saved that way. Margaret Park -------------- Original message from " ph Votta " : -------------- > Dunno. Just seems to me I remember reading somewhere that DMSO is good for > a stroke. It crosses the blood brain barrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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