Re: Things that work and things that don't

[Guest guest]

piracetam is interesting. Brent from the old post used it with

positive results

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/messagesearch/3177?query=piracetam & \

submit=Search+More

He mentions it has help with orgasm. Correct me if Im wrong but

bethanecol works with acetylcholine ? and the last time I mention of

taking bethaencol , it seemed to improve orgasm. So Im thinking

piracetam can help me.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/2926

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/SSRIsex/message/2840

I think I will try this one out soon since it is cheap can be aquired

easily. I guess the only way to find out if this will help is to try

it out.

here it mentions it improves acetylcholine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam

> >

> > I've been on SSRIs since 2001. And unfortunately, it does not seem

> I

> > will be able to withdraw soon. Since I am suffering from several

> > sexual dysfunctions, I am looking constantly for something that

> would

> > offset them.

> > Here's a list of drugs I tried.

> > Things that did not help:

> > * Switching to another antidepressant. I experienced almost no

> sexual

> > problems with St.'s Wort or Tianeptine, but those drugs

> provided

> > very little relief from anxiety and depression, so I had to stop

> > taking them. Mitrazapine (Remeron) was the worst. Compared to

> SSRIs,

> > it had much weaker effect on anxiety, but the sex dysfunctions were

> > the same. I also experienced permanent sleepiness and nausea, and I

> > gained 10kgs in a month, so remeron was no option for me.

> Venlafaxine

> > (Effectin) was very similar to SSRIs in all aspects, just a little

> > weaker on both sides. Right now I'm on sertraline (Asentra) and I

> > would say I feel great (no anxiety, no depression, no sleepiness,

> no

> > weight gain, no nauesa)... if it were not for sexual side-

> effects :-(

> > * Gingko biloba has a slight positive impact on memory and

> cognitive

> > functions, or at least a feel so (It may be just a placebo), but no

> > effect on sexual functions.

> > * I tried Vasogen and maca (Eregma), which are advertised as

> natural

> > herbal sex enhancers, but I felt neither positive nor negative

> > effects. I believe these " natural " enhancements are just a waste of

> > time and money.

> >

> > And now... things that helped me:

> > * Piracetam. I tried it a couple of years before I started taking

> > antidepressants, but I stopped after a week or so, because it

> > increased my anxiety. However, I also noticed a significant

> increase

> > in libido. Some of my friends said they felt the same effect. Many

> > years later, I experimented with piracetam to cope with side

> effects

> > of sertraline, and I found that together with sertraline it has no

> > effects on anxiety, but it has positive effect on libido. So I now

> I

> > take 3600mg of Piracetam a day and my libido much better then it

> used

> > to be.

> > * My doctor suggested that sildenafil (Viagra) or tadalafil

> (Cialis)

> > might help me get an erection. I chose Cialis - and whoa, with

> Cialis

> > I am able to get erections.

> > * A month ago the doc prescribed me 300mg bupropion (Wellbutrin) a

> > day. I guess it's a little too early for judging its effects, but

> now

> > I can lower sertraline dosage by a half (a thing that was not

> > possible before] and few days back I noticed an increase in all

> sexual

> > functions. I can not tell if is due to adding bupropion or due to

> > lowering dosage of sertraline.

> >

> > -----

> >

> > Recently I also started taking Tribulus Terrestic, which is a plant

> > that is said to increase testosterone levels. I take it for just a

> few

> > days and I don't feel any effects yet.

> >

> > So I got rid of erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, but I

> still

> > from anorgasmia and I am almost unable to feel any sexual

> pleasure. I

> > need to search futher, one day I may fully recover my sexual

> functions

> > to their pre-SSRI levels.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam sounds

> very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will do so

> at some point in the future.

>

> When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or do you

> mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it sounds

> like you libido is now pretty much normal?

>

> Vornan

Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a sexologist, but

she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

[Guest guest]

Don't know if you saw the post awhile back, but someone on the dr-bob.org board

said he had genital anesthesia/low libido for about a year after taking paxil.

He used

wellbutrin for six months and said both libido and genital sensation came back

to

normal, but he had to quit wellbutrin because it made him too anxious.

If emsam doesn't work out wellbutrin may be next in line for me.

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam sounds

> > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will do so

> > at some point in the future.

> >

> > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or do you

> > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it sounds

> > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> >

> > Vornan

>

> Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a sexologist, but

> she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

>

[Guest guest]

I've done a lot of research into this recently, and part of the

problem could be that we have low pge1. This chemical has a lot to

do with erection/sensitivity. It can be increased naturally using

Borage Oil or Evening Primrose Oil.

I got some Borage Oil today and will give it a shot beginning

tomorrow.

Luther

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam

sounds

> > > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will

do so

> > > at some point in the future.

> > >

> > > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> > > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or

do you

> > > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it

sounds

> > > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> > >

> > > Vornan

> >

> > Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a

sexologist, but

> > she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi varvdram

didnt you mention you are still zoloft right? but using piracetam and

wellbutrin to help it.

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam sounds

> > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will do so

> > at some point in the future.

> >

> > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or do you

> > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it sounds

> > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> >

> > Vornan

>

> Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a sexologist, but

> she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

>

[Guest guest]

Yea, that guy who went back on antidepressant after recovering from

wellbutrin. I wonder how bad the anxiety was that he wanted to go back

on antidepressant. Im curious if it was either very nervous side

effect from the drug or just a feeling of being anxious not being on

serotonin high.

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam

sounds

> > > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will

do so

> > > at some point in the future.

> > >

> > > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> > > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or do

you

> > > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it sounds

> > > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> > >

> > > Vornan

> >

> > Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a sexologist, but

> > she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I did some searches about pge1 but most of them are in very details

writings. Although I dont quite understand how oils help us, many

people have been recommending fish oils and other types of oils like

borage, cod liver are good for our condition including omega 3 stuff,

maybe all oils are related someway?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of piracetam

> sounds

> > > > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and will

> do so

> > > > at some point in the future.

> > > >

> > > > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any sexual

> > > > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak, or

> do you

> > > > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since it

> sounds

> > > > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> > > >

> > > > Vornan

> > >

> > > Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a

> sexologist, but

> > > she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Pge1 injections are apparently used as a treatment for impotence. So

theoretically, taking Borage Oil long-term will build up pge1 levels

and allow for an easier erection.

It is absolutely ridiculous how many things figure into libido &

erection. That's what makes this so hard.

Luther

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing your experiences. The effect of

piracetam

> > sounds

> > > > > very interesting. I've been thinking of trying that, and

will

> > do so

> > > > > at some point in the future.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you say that you are " almost unable to feel any

sexual

> > > > > pleasure " do you mean that your genital sensation is weak,

or

> > do you

> > > > > mean mentally? I guess you mean physical sensation since

it

> > sounds

> > > > > like you libido is now pretty much normal?

> > > > >

> > > > > Vornan

> > > >

> > > > Yes, my genital sensation is almost zero. I visited a

> > sexologist, but

> > > > she said she had no idea what to do about it. :-(

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. My sexual problems were intermittant and usually fixed by

viagra until about a year ago. At that time my shrink decided to

tweek my med a bit and put me on trazedone. The effects were almost

immediate. Not only did I have almost no libido but often felt as

if my dick had been amputated. As if it wasn't even there.

I'n February I was taken off trazedone but the side affects didn't

go away. About 3 weeks ago I had welbutrin added to my pill

cocktail and I do notice slight improvment but I'm a long way from

where I was before trazedone.

One of my therapists recommended rhodiola rosea herb. I haven't

tried it yet. Another suggested that I try a few tantra treatments.

Have any of you tried either of these?

>

> I've been on SSRIs since 2001. And unfortunately, it does not seem

I

> will be able to withdraw soon. Since I am suffering from several

> sexual dysfunctions, I am looking constantly for something that

would

> offset them.

> Here's a list of drugs I tried.

> Things that did not help:

> * Switching to another antidepressant. I experienced almost no

sexual

> problems with St.'s Wort or Tianeptine, but those drugs

provided

> very little relief from anxiety and depression, so I had to stop

> taking them. Mitrazapine (Remeron) was the worst. Compared to

SSRIs,

> it had much weaker effect on anxiety, but the sex dysfunctions were

> the same. I also experienced permanent sleepiness and nausea, and I

> gained 10kgs in a month, so remeron was no option for me.

Venlafaxine

> (Effectin) was very similar to SSRIs in all aspects, just a little

> weaker on both sides. Right now I'm on sertraline (Asentra) and I

> would say I feel great (no anxiety, no depression, no sleepiness,

no

> weight gain, no nauesa)... if it were not for sexual side-

effects :-(

> * Gingko biloba has a slight positive impact on memory and

cognitive

> functions, or at least a feel so (It may be just a placebo), but no

> effect on sexual functions.

> * I tried Vasogen and maca (Eregma), which are advertised as

natural

> herbal sex enhancers, but I felt neither positive nor negative

> effects. I believe these " natural " enhancements are just a waste of

> time and money.

>

> And now... things that helped me:

> * Piracetam. I tried it a couple of years before I started taking

> antidepressants, but I stopped after a week or so, because it

> increased my anxiety. However, I also noticed a significant

increase

> in libido. Some of my friends said they felt the same effect. Many

> years later, I experimented with piracetam to cope with side

effects

> of sertraline, and I found that together with sertraline it has no

> effects on anxiety, but it has positive effect on libido. So I now

I

> take 3600mg of Piracetam a day and my libido much better then it

used

> to be.

> * My doctor suggested that sildenafil (Viagra) or tadalafil

(Cialis)

> might help me get an erection. I chose Cialis - and whoa, with

Cialis

> I am able to get erections.

> * A month ago the doc prescribed me 300mg bupropion (Wellbutrin) a

> day. I guess it's a little too early for judging its effects, but

now

> I can lower sertraline dosage by a half (a thing that was not

> possible before] and few days back I noticed an increase in all

sexual

> functions. I can not tell if is due to adding bupropion or due to

> lowering dosage of sertraline.

>

> -----

>

> Recently I also started taking Tribulus Terrestic, which is a plant

> that is said to increase testosterone levels. I take it for just a

few

> days and I don't feel any effects yet.

>

> So I got rid of erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, but I

still

> from anorgasmia and I am almost unable to feel any sexual

pleasure. I

> need to search futher, one day I may fully recover my sexual

functions

> to their pre-SSRI levels.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

What else are you taking right now besides wellbutrin?

Vornan

> >

> > I've been on SSRIs since 2001. And unfortunately, it does not

seem

> I

> > will be able to withdraw soon. Since I am suffering from several

> > sexual dysfunctions, I am looking constantly for something that

> would

> > offset them.

> > Here's a list of drugs I tried.

> > Things that did not help:

> > * Switching to another antidepressant. I experienced almost no

> sexual

> > problems with St.'s Wort or Tianeptine, but those drugs

> provided

> > very little relief from anxiety and depression, so I had to stop

> > taking them. Mitrazapine (Remeron) was the worst. Compared to

> SSRIs,

> > it had much weaker effect on anxiety, but the sex dysfunctions

were

> > the same. I also experienced permanent sleepiness and nausea,

and I

> > gained 10kgs in a month, so remeron was no option for me.

> Venlafaxine

> > (Effectin) was very similar to SSRIs in all aspects, just a

little

> > weaker on both sides. Right now I'm on sertraline (Asentra) and I

> > would say I feel great (no anxiety, no depression, no

sleepiness,

> no

> > weight gain, no nauesa)... if it were not for sexual side-

> effects :-(

> > * Gingko biloba has a slight positive impact on memory and

> cognitive

> > functions, or at least a feel so (It may be just a placebo), but

no

> > effect on sexual functions.

> > * I tried Vasogen and maca (Eregma), which are advertised as

> natural

> > herbal sex enhancers, but I felt neither positive nor negative

> > effects. I believe these " natural " enhancements are just a waste

of

> > time and money.

> >

> > And now... things that helped me:

> > * Piracetam. I tried it a couple of years before I started taking

> > antidepressants, but I stopped after a week or so, because it

> > increased my anxiety. However, I also noticed a significant

> increase

> > in libido. Some of my friends said they felt the same effect.

Many

> > years later, I experimented with piracetam to cope with side

> effects

> > of sertraline, and I found that together with sertraline it has

no

> > effects on anxiety, but it has positive effect on libido. So I

now

> I

> > take 3600mg of Piracetam a day and my libido much better then it

> used

> > to be.

> > * My doctor suggested that sildenafil (Viagra) or tadalafil

> (Cialis)

> > might help me get an erection. I chose Cialis - and whoa, with

> Cialis

> > I am able to get erections.

> > * A month ago the doc prescribed me 300mg bupropion (Wellbutrin)

a

> > day. I guess it's a little too early for judging its effects,

but

> now

> > I can lower sertraline dosage by a half (a thing that was not

> > possible before] and few days back I noticed an increase in all

> sexual

> > functions. I can not tell if is due to adding bupropion or due to

> > lowering dosage of sertraline.

> >

> > -----

> >

> > Recently I also started taking Tribulus Terrestic, which is a

plant

> > that is said to increase testosterone levels. I take it for just

a

> few

> > days and I don't feel any effects yet.

> >

> > So I got rid of erectile dysfunction and decreased libido, but I

> still

> > from anorgasmia and I am almost unable to feel any sexual

> pleasure. I

> > need to search futher, one day I may fully recover my sexual

> functions

> > to their pre-SSRI levels.

> >

>