Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

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In a message dated 11/7/2002 7:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, ascaris1@...

writes:

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen. The online version can be

seen at:

>

> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/living/

>

> I do not consider the photos of me to be all that

> flattering, so be warned

>

>

--Hey, congratulations, ! Good article. The photo with your cat was

alright, but I wonder what the photographer was attempting when he took the

other one at that angle and with that lighting? Its' not *unflattering* per se,

but seems to have a 'shadowy' mood to it. Oh well, its the article thats

important, don't mind me, I focus more on visuals i suppose.

Nanne

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ViridianThumm@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/7/2002 7:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ascaris1@... writes:

>

>

>> The article has just been printed in the Citizen. The online version can be

seen at:

>>

>>

>> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/living/

>>

>> I do not consider the photos of me to be all that flattering, so be warned

>>

>>

>

> --Hey, congratulations, ! Good article. The photo with your cat was

alright, but

> I wonder what the photographer was attempting when he took the other one at

that angle

> and with that lighting?

He used a flash for all of them, and as the article mentioned, the lights were

pretty dim.

Room illumination was provided by a 15w light bulb. I imagine that a room with

brighter

lights would have filled in the shadows more effectively than that. There is a

big shadow

by my nose... I was thinking to myself that the shadow was bad there. They took

all sorts

of photos during the interview; I wonder why they chose that one.

> Its' not *unflattering* per se, but seems to have a 'shadowy'

> mood to it. Oh well, its the article thats important, don't mind me, I focus

more on

> visuals i suppose.

I just look at those images and think that I look better in other pictures.

I thought it was interesting that they noted that I was watching Scooby-Doo when

they

arrived. I considered turning the TV off as they knocked on the door, but I

thought that

this was what I was really watching, and that I ought just to let it be. The

same was

true with regard to my footwear (or lack thereof) in the images. The image in

the print

newspaper is cropped higher than the one in the online version, so you cannot

see that I

was barefoot.

[Guest guest]

At first glance, I thought the photo was just ordinary, not good or bad, but

definitely like the photographer didn't try to capture your best. I photograph

horribly myself because my forced smile, posture, etc. is poor. My husband saw

the photo and he complemented you: he said you look like an alien. (He likely

heard this term from me, incessantly talking about 'aliens' making the greatest

advancements throughout history. He is tired of this topic.). To me, you look

totally normal.

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

In a message dated 11/7/2002 7:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ascaris1@... writes:

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen. The online version can be

seen at:

>

> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/living/

>

> I do not consider the photos of me to be all that

> flattering, so be warned

>

>

--Hey, congratulations, ! Good article. The photo with your cat was

alright, but I wonder what the photographer was attempting when he took the

other one at that angle and with that lighting? Its' not *unflattering* per se,

but seems to have a 'shadowy' mood to it. Oh well, its the article thats

important, don't mind me, I focus more on visuals i suppose.

Nanne

[Guest guest]

,

I'm seriously disappointed by your apparent normality. By the sounds of it

the reporter was more intent on purusing on journalistic writing skills than

tackling the key issues that affect aspies, namely neurotypical deception

and intolerance of those who fail to meet their behavioural standards.

Neil

AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

>

> All,

>

> Several weeks ago, a reporter from the Tucson Citizen (one of two local

newspapers here in

> Tucson) contacted me via email and asked if she could do an interview. I

accepted, and

> also accepted her request to have a photographer take some photos during

the interview.

> This article was a response to the recent coverage of the youth with AS

that stands

> accused of mutilating a toy poodle. I saw an opportunity to help dispel

the idea that

> such behavior is typical of people with AS. I think the interview went

well, and I was

> reasonably certain that it was not going to be a " hit " piece.

>

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen. The online version can

be seen at:

>

> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/living/

>

> I do not consider the photos of me to be all that flattering, so be warned

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/7/2002 11:38:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, ascaris1@...

writes:

>

> I thought it was interesting that they noted that I was watching Scooby-Doo

when they

> arrived. I considered turning the TV off as they knocked on the door, but I

thought that

> this was what I was really watching, and that I ought just to let it be. The

same was

> true with regard to my footwear (or lack thereof) in the images. The image in

the print

> newspaper is cropped higher than the one in the online

> version, so you cannot see that I

> was barefoot.

>

>

--Just curious, did you have any anxiety over what they were going to write?

Not that its something I'll have to worry about in the future,but I recall

when a few articles appeared on my exhibits it caused great anxiety (even if

they were positive).

One doesn't have 'control' over what is written, and it always felt like

being splayed naked to the world.

Nanne

[Guest guest]

Great article ,

I must say, you look nothing like I imagined. :-)

sandi

AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

>

> All,

>

> Several weeks ago, a reporter from the Tucson Citizen (one of two local

newspapers here in

> Tucson) contacted me via email and asked if she could do an interview. I

accepted, and

> also accepted her request to have a photographer take some photos during

the interview.

> This article was a response to the recent coverage of the youth with AS

that stands

> accused of mutilating a toy poodle. I saw an opportunity to help dispel

the idea that

> such behavior is typical of people with AS. I think the interview went

well, and I was

> reasonably certain that it was not going to be a " hit " piece.

>

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen. The online version can

be seen at:

>

> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/living/

>

> I do not consider the photos of me to be all that flattering, so be warned

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I don't know about , having been interviewed several times by both

newspapers and TV people for my artwork, I can tell you I certainly felt anxiety

about what they were going to print or show. There was one instance when I was

to be interviewed by the local paper when I was in the midst of a bottomless

pit-like depression. Hard to bring forth the " zany cartoonist " image when that

happens. I remember the photographer kept saying, " You're a cartoonist--smile!! "

The actual interview was done over the phone, so the reporter never met me in

person, but the photographer came to my apartment, which typically looks like

Berlin right after the war. His impressions and pictures, I thought, were likely

to influence the reporter.

TV was alternately thrilling and terrifying--on the one hand, my work was

being seen and talked about. On the other, I felt I looked like a fool. On

camera I can see the full effect of what the cerebral palsy has done to me--my

head is cocked to one side, I move like Data on Star Trek and when I talk I look

like I'm trying to get peanut butter out of my mouth. So I can definitely

understand.

Side note to --if they had come to my place, not only would " Scooby Doo "

have been on (deliberately) I could have told them what year that particular

cartoon was made...=) Cartoonists can get away with that. We just call it

" research...

--Just curious, did you have any anxiety over what they were going to write?

Not that its something I'll have to worry about in the future,but I recall

when a few articles appeared on my exhibits it caused great anxiety (even if

they were positive).

One doesn't have 'control' over what is written, and it always felt like

being splayed naked to the world.

Nanne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/8/2002 1:23:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rnewstead@... writes:

> Side note to --if they had come to my place, not only would " Scooby Doo "

have been on (deliberately) I could have told them what year that particular

cartoon was made...=)

> Cartoonists can get away with that. We just call it " research...

>

>

>

>

Oh...lol!

Do you have a webpage with your cartoons on it ? (forgive me if I

asked this before, it seems I might have..but anymore have difficulty

remembering the day before...)

Nanne

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, not yet, but that's going to be quickly remedied. I now have a

scanner, so setting up a web page is finally possible.

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

In a message dated 11/8/2002 1:23:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rnewstead@... writes:

> Side note to --if they had come to my place, not only would " Scooby

Doo " have been on (deliberately) I could have told them what year that

particular cartoon was made...=)

> Cartoonists can get away with that. We just call it " research...

>

>

>

>

Oh...lol!

Do you have a webpage with your cartoons on it ? (forgive me if I

asked this before, it seems I might have..but anymore have difficulty

remembering the day before...)

Nanne

[Guest guest]

> --Just curious, did you have any anxiety over what they were going to write?

> Not that its something I'll have to worry about in the future,but I recall

when a few articles appeared on my exhibits it caused great anxiety (even if

they were positive).

> One doesn't have 'control' over what is written, and it always felt like

being splayed naked to the world.

> Nanne

I can certainly identify with that! I've never permitted photographers to come

into my home (several interviewers have asked) and I won't do live interviews

anymore after being abused by radio DJs. Nowadays I won't even do voice

interviews anymore -- only written. I still get interview requests on a weekly

basis even with my huge restrictions. I end up turning most of them down,

though. I got so tired of being misinterpreted and mis-portrayed by insensitive,

idiotic journalists. It seems as if even the ones who mean well and try hard

just miss the point entirely.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen.

That was a very good article, and I loved the pictures!

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

Hi,

's probably going to come up here and smack me for this, but I thought he

looked like Ethan , the guy who played Neelix on " Star Trek: Voyager "

(without the alien makeup, of course) and who was a regular on " Benson. "

For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I recently

hired a woman to clean my apartment who looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

wrote:

> The article has just been printed in the Citizen.

That was a very good article, and I loved the pictures!

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/9/2002 4:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rnewstead@... writes:

>

> For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I recently

hired a woman to clean my apartment who

> looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

>

>

Heh...I've experienced this before. I've often wondered whether its been my

brain attempting to categorize faces in order to help me remember them.

I once had an interest in a fellow, and I told my friend Jerome that he

looked like Bruce Lee. He was astounded, and said, " he looks nothing like Bruce

Lee! " But his cheekbones did, the structure of them, so to me he looked like

Bruce Lee.

Talk about not seeing the forest for a single tree.... lol

Nanne

>

[Guest guest]

You know, that very thought occurred to me as well. I've never been good at

remembering faces, and need some sort of " baseline " to compare them to.

Because celebrities are so easily recognizable, it makes sense to use them

as a basis for comparison.

Newstead

-- Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

In a message dated 11/9/2002 4:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, rnewstead@new

rr.com writes:

>

> For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I

recently hired a woman to clean my apartment who

> looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

>

>

Heh...I've experienced this before. I've often wondered whether its been my

brain attempting to categorize faces in order to help me remember them.

I once had an interest in a fellow, and I told my friend Jerome that he

looked like Bruce Lee. He was astounded, and said, " he looks nothing like

Bruce Lee! " But his cheekbones did, the structure of them, so to me he

looked like Bruce Lee.

Talk about not seeing the forest for a single tree.... lol

Nanne

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2002 7:08:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,

rnewstead@... writes:

>

> You know, that very thought occurred to me as well. I've never been good at

> remembering faces, and need some sort of " baseline " to compare them to.

> Because celebrities are so easily recognizable, it makes

> sense to use them

> as a basis for comparison.

----Back in drawing classes when I was younger, I could never follow the

instructions or learn to draw from the rough sketch of the entire head, now that

I remember. I always could only draw from an eye first, and building up the

entire face from one eye outward.

Eye contact was never a problem when you are in the middle of 'studying'

them, and not having to worry about conversing.

Nanne

[Guest guest]

I thought an obsession with appearances was an NT trait. Remember many

actors make a fortune because of their captivating appearance and facial

expressions, i.e. because of their nonverbal communication skills. I have

serious problems linking celebrity names I casually hear or read with faces

I might see on TV.

Neil

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

> In a message dated 11/9/2002 4:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rnewstead@... writes:

>

> >

> > For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I

recently hired a woman to clean my apartment who

> > looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

> >

> >

>

> Heh...I've experienced this before. I've often wondered whether its been

my brain attempting to categorize faces in order to help me remember them.

> I once had an interest in a fellow, and I told my friend Jerome that

he looked like Bruce Lee. He was astounded, and said, " he looks nothing

like Bruce Lee! " But his cheekbones did, the structure of them, so to me

he looked like Bruce Lee.

> Talk about not seeing the forest for a single tree.... lol

> Nanne

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2002 8:39:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,

neil@... writes:

>

> I thought an obsession with appearances was an NT trait. Remember many

> actors make a fortune because of their captivating appearance and facial

> expressions, i.e. because of their nonverbal communication skills. I have

> serious problems linking celebrity names I casually hear or

> read with faces

> I might see on TV.

>

> Neil

This isn't about 'obsessions' with appearance, but about how we 'register'

them.

I normally register eyebrows and cheekbones, for somereason, (in men)

primary to registering the overall whole.

Nanne

[Guest guest]

I hardly ever recognise celebrities when I see pictures of them unless

they are very distinctive like . Same when watching

movies. I have to keep asking whoever is watching with me who all the

characters are.

CZ

Neil Gardner wrote:

> I thought an obsession with appearances was an NT trait. Remember many

> actors make a fortune because of their captivating appearance and facial

> expressions, i.e. because of their nonverbal communication skills. I have

> serious problems linking celebrity names I casually hear or read with faces

> I might see on TV.

>

> Neil

>

>

> Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

>

>

>

>>In a message dated 11/9/2002 4:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>

> rnewstead@... writes:

>

>>>For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I

>>

> recently hired a woman to clean my apartment who

>

>>>looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

>>>

>>>

>>

>>Heh...I've experienced this before. I've often wondered whether its been

>

> my brain attempting to categorize faces in order to help me remember them.

>

>> I once had an interest in a fellow, and I told my friend Jerome that

>

> he looked like Bruce Lee. He was astounded, and said, " he looks nothing

> like Bruce Lee! " But his cheekbones did, the structure of them, so to me

> he looked like Bruce Lee.

>

>>Talk about not seeing the forest for a single tree.... lol

>>Nanne

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

> I hardly ever recognise celebrities when I see pictures of them unless

> they are very distinctive like . Same when watching

> movies. I have to keep asking whoever is watching with me who all the

> characters are.

I'm much more likely to recognize actors/actresses by voices rather than

faces. I sometimes watch episodes of an old TV series from the 70s, and

some actors who are very famous today have guest spots in the show (back

when they were unknowns). I could never recognize them by physical

appearance, but as soon as they talk, I know them.

Iris

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[Guest guest]

I experienced that a number of times. For instance, Jack Nicholson, early in

his career, was on an episode of The Andy Griffith Show (if you can picture

the likes of Nicholson hanging out with Andy, Aunt Bee, Opie and the rest).

I didn't recognize him at first, but as soon as he opened his mouth, that

unique voice of his gave him away.

-- Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

> I hardly ever recognise celebrities when I see pictures of them unless

> they are very distinctive like . Same when watching

> movies. I have to keep asking whoever is watching with me who all the

> characters are.

I'm much more likely to recognize actors/actresses by voices rather than

faces. I sometimes watch episodes of an old TV series from the 70s, and

some actors who are very famous today have guest spots in the show (back

when they were unknowns). I could never recognize them by physical

appearance, but as soon as they talk, I know them.

Iris

Iris Gray, Puff, Calli and Munchkin

Proud to be Canuckistanian

Personal website: http://victoria.tc.ca/~rainbow/

Toastmasters website: http://victoria.tc.ca/Community/Bb/

[Guest guest]

Phew, I felt like a fish out of water. I register faces okay, but fail to

match with my name database. I've read books and forgot the author. It's

immaterial, but I'm always amazed how people whom I've only just met

remember my name. As for celebs, most are superNTs, i.e. at the opposite end

of the autie-entie curriculum. They're social performers. Why should I care

about Sharon Stone's persona if I stand a 1 in 3,000,000,000 of going to bed

with her?

Neil

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

> >

> >

> >

> >>In a message dated 11/9/2002 4:35:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >

> > rnewstead@... writes:

> >

> >>>For some reason, I do that a lot, comparing people to celebrities. I

> >>

> > recently hired a woman to clean my apartment who

> >

> >>>looks just like Gilda Radner....=)

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>Heh...I've experienced this before. I've often wondered whether its

been

> >

> > my brain attempting to categorize faces in order to help me remember

them.

> >

> >> I once had an interest in a fellow, and I told my friend Jerome that

> >

> > he looked like Bruce Lee. He was astounded, and said, " he looks nothing

> > like Bruce Lee! " But his cheekbones did, the structure of them, so to

me

> > he looked like Bruce Lee.

> >

> >>Talk about not seeing the forest for a single tree.... lol

> >>Nanne

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

>As for celebs, most are superNTs, i.e. at the opposite end

> of the autie-entie curriculum. They're social performers.

I read somewhere (though I can't remember where) that acting is not an uncommon

career for people with Asperger's to embrace so I wouldn't make the assumption

that *all* celebrities are NT (though it's pretty safe to say that *most* are NT

since most people in general are NT.)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/2002 5:50:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sparrow@... writes:

> I read somewhere (though I can't remember where) that acting is not an

uncommon career for people with Asperger's to embrace so I wouldn't make the

assumption that *all* celebrities are NT (though it's pretty safe to say that

*most* are NT

> since most people in general are NT.)

-----A friend of mine told me that from an interview with Cage, he

sounded very AS to her...this was over a year ago and I can't recall where the

interview was. But part of it was that he was very solitary by nature, and

didn't interact with others on the sets until it was his time to be on camera..

Nanne

[Guest guest]

Re: AS Article in the Tucson Citizen

>

> >As for celebs, most are superNTs, i.e. at the opposite end

> > of the autie-entie curriculum. They're social performers.

BTW I meant " continuum " . Please excuse my hastily written e-mails but I have

a habit of justaposing words too, a mild form of dyslexia/dyspraxia.

>

> I read somewhere (though I can't remember where) that acting is not an

uncommon career for people with Asperger's to embrace so I wouldn't make the

assumption that *all* celebrities are NT (though it's pretty safe to say

that *most* are NT since most people in general are NT.)

I act all the time when in contact with the outside world, but can only keep

it up for 5-10 minutes tops. It's easier when I'm on a high and know I'm

accepted. Another uncanny habit of mine is to switch accents, albeit

imperfectly. When I worked at computer games tech support rep, answering

calls in 3 languages, UK customers could take their pick as to my origin.

Some folk over here in Scotland think I grew up north of the border (we have

a lot of hybrid accents, so that's not a problem) and some think I'm Italian

like my wife. I don't think I'm tied to my childhood speech patterns to the

same extent as NTs.

Neil

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