Re: Help

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The key to stop craving carbs. is to not eat starchy carbs or

processed carbs. For example, do not eat white breads, crackers, rice

cakes, wheat thins, white rice, etc. It's just like eating sugar.

Keep your carb intake to complex carbs only. For example, salad

greens, tomatoes and most other veggies and even some fruits. I would

suggest doing a search online for a glycemic chart and choose your

carbs that are lowest on the charts. Off the top of my head,

carrots would be the only veggie that is not recommended. Too much

sugar!

Second, I recommend a couple of supplements. 5HTP and St. s Wort

helps to regulate the serotonin level in your brain, which is

responsible for your cravings.

If you feel comfortable leaving your email addy, I would be more than

happy to correspond with you via email. I know you from VF, too.

[Guest guest]

My calorie intake generall hovers between 1600 and 1800 calories/day. I have not lost ANY inches. On the contrary, I have GAINED inches.

Be patient would be my best advice... Good things come to those who wait

[Guest guest]

" have a nice day!! " wrote:

> Ok, I hate to post this after all these wonderful and inspiring

posts. But I am on like day 13 of the 21 DC, and I have watched my

calorie intake with dietwatch and have, for the most part, stuck with

their recommendations, even changing my activity level to " light " . My

calorie intake generall hovers between 1600 and 1800 calories/day. I

have not lost ANY inches. On the contrary, I have GAINED inches.

>

> How is this possible. I'm about ready to scrap the whole darn thing.

>

> 13 days is way to early to quit. If you are just starting Taebo,

i.e., day 13 of your 21 DC is the 13th day that you have ever done

Taebo, then you are in the learning stage. It is enough for the 21DC

if you learn the correct form, and get into a routine with exercising

and eating. This will set you up for the more advanced work later on.

The advanced tapes, which are longer and a harder workout, should help

you see results. Until you accomplish what is trying to teach

you on the earlier tapes, however, you will never get the full benefits

of Taebo. Have you read 's book, " The Tae-bo Way. " It is very

motivating and teaches you the correct form. Remember Tae-bo and good

health are a life style, not a gimmick. I would suggest not weighing

yourself or measuring yourself at least until you get through the 21

DC. Even then, a better monitor of your progress would be how you fit

into your clothes and how you feel as opposed to what you weigh and

your measurements. I haven't lost a pound and I haven't measured

myself after 7 months of doing Taebo, but I'm not going to stop. I'm

learning that weight is just a number. My " ideal number " will never be

as low as it was before exercising because then I was a skinny,

shapeless, weakling. Now, I am strong and confident. I feel more

attractive (except for the glasses) than ever even though I weigh

15+more pounds than I did in college. I would love to lose 5 pounds

and fit comfortably into a size 10, but that will not determine my

success. Success means to keep exercising and eating right the rest of

my life regardless of the numbers. Hang in there.

Elena

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 4:28:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< Yes, muscle weighsx more than fat, but it also takes up less space, not

more, so why am I gaining inches and not losing them?

>>

Dear ,

Go to the taebo website and go to the message board section, I think you

should go to success stories?, and then to questions for Taeboqueen. There

are a series of messages there that might make you feel better, because what

you are going through is discussed there. ;o) Sharon

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 4:39:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< < Yes, muscle weighsx more than fat, but it also takes up less space, not

more, so why am I gaining inches and not losing them?

>> >>

--ps.......Have you ever had your thyroid tested?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 4:39:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< i, I also want to add that tae bo is not the only exercise I have been

doing. Prior to starting tae bo, I swam 65 laps at least every other day,

sometimes every day. Before that, it was tae bo, and before that, I trained

for a marathon (walking) and was walking 20 miles/week.

I have been exercising actively for a year now, and have not lost anything,

no inches, no weight.

In fact, I have GAINED 17 pounds...and its not muscle believe me. My waist

line and hips have expanded by 2-4 inches each...even though I exercised

actively at least 4x/week for the past year.

>>

,

I think you should see your doctor and make sure that every thing is working

right! Your doctor may also have some suggestions on your diet. If you

really feel that something is wrong, you really should get checked out. Take

care!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 4:55:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, moody@...

writes:

<< Squash makes a good point

above, it could be thyroid or something along those lines. Take care,

>>

, You cracked me up when you referred to me as squash! Can I call you

Moo? LOL Actually, Squashblosm was once my nickname many years ago. ;o)

" Squash "

[Guest guest]

squashblos-@... wrote:

original article:/group/tae-bo_on/?start=2082

> In a message dated 11/24/99 4:39:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Squashblosm@... writes:

>

> << < Yes, muscle weighsx more than fat, but it also takes up less

space, not

> more, so why am I gaining inches and not losing them?

> >> >>

> --ps.......Have you ever had your thyroid tested?

, Have you discussed this with your doctor? If not this might be

a good time for a complete physical exam. Squash makes a good point

above, it could be thyroid or something along those lines. Take care,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 10:09:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< I'm fairly active for

my lifestyle of working till 3am, and homeschooling. >>

Hi! I was just wondering what you do for a living? I just got a job as a

cashier at a grocery store. My hours are from 10pm to 5 am. My kids get up

around 8 am. I am not quite sure how I will fit sleep in... I am just

wondering how you do it. Sorry that I don't have any answers to your weight

loss problems. But, I do think that Dietwatch's numbers are pretty high. I

would ask your doctor what a good number of calories would be for you, if you

want to count them (which I hate doing).

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 10:07:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<<

I know this diet is full of carbs, but according to dietwatch, I'm doing

just fine...my nutritional requirements are met...and if I do overdo, its

usually carbs, but I haven't been overdoing too much for awhile.

>>

,

I think you should eliminate a lot of the carbs from your diet. This

seems most likely to be your problem in my opinion. I'm sorry to be

redundant, but the book " Sugarbuster's " will direct you to the right carbs to

eat. I would like to suggest that you try a low carb diet for several weeks,

and see if this fixes your problem. Sharon

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/1999 10:52:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< Swimming and walking do not build muscle, they are primarily aerobic, which

is perhaps why my metabolism did not increase. But Tae Bo does build

muscle, so maybe it is just going to take longer.

Any other ideas on increasing metabolism?? >>

would stay away from swimming cuz it increases appetite!!!

Maybe you want to try some weight training?

just need a set of dumb bells and a good tape

Have you tried splitting up the Tae Bo into two or three sessions?

I just started trying that recently & probably too soon to see if it hurts

or helps me with my metabolism

and remember INTENSITY

the more intensely you work-out, the more it will affect your metabolism

Barb

who thinks my energy level is staying higher thru-out the day since splitting

my work-out

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 10:49:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< I will obsess so much about it I will

eat icing right out of the can, or eat sugar right out of the bag to ease

the cravings. sigh

How do you get through the first 2 weeks without giving in?

>>

Dear ,

It sounds like you are a raving carbohydrate junkie! I am sure to you

it is no laughing matter though. I looooooove carbohydrates too, but I don't

think I have it quite as bad as you.

I find that it usually comes on the strongest when I ovulate and when I am

having the curse.

The thing that I can equate your addiction to is smoking. I smoked

heavily since I was 17, and I quit about 5 years ago. First of all, instead

of using the words try and I can't, I used the words will and I can. Also, I

cross stitched my way through the hardest part. I have heard before that

when you are trying to quit something negative, you should replace it with

something positive.

And just so you don't think you are alone in this, I have been known to

make a cake just so I can have the batter. I wish I knew the right words to

keep you from eating junkie carbs, but this is something you are going to

have to reach deep down inside yourself (like Blanks says) and find the

strength for. ;o) Sharon

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/24/99 11:06:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< to increase metabolism >>

I have heard before that if you divide your 3 meals in a day into 5 or 6

smaller meals, it will increase your metabolism. I have also heard that if

you drink ice water frequently, and eat cold foods, that thermogenesis will

burn more calories, because it takes extra energy to raise the temperature of

the food or drink until it is warm enough to be generated as fuel. I have

also heard that everything over 20 straight minutes of aerobic exercise burns

fat at an accelerated rate. ;o) Sharon

[Guest guest]

I have been at tae bo for 3 months. I have gained weight, which I know is

muscle. Thats not the problem. The problem is I have also GAINED INCHES.

I am not losing anything, and I can barely fit into my " fat " clothes now

because they are too small.

I do tae bo at least 4 times/week...advanced and basic mixed. Right now I

am doing my 14th day of the 21DC.

Yes, muscle weighsx more than fat, but it also takes up less space, not

more, so why am I gaining inches and not losing them?

, who is finally getting her email.

Re: Help

>> << I have always believed that this whole idea of diet and exercise

>is not

>> going to work for me. The only thing that ever works is starvation.

>>>

>>

>> ,

>> starvation will not work!!!

>> and you will suffer emotionally and may even hurt yourself physically

>> just to gain it all back again and then some.

>> How about just trying to keep meal portions down, eat what you crave,

>> try to choose healthier carbs

>> instead of dieting just thinking before you eat.

>> Dine instead of eat, savoring your food with small bites.

>> As soon as you feel hungry, dine on a snack

>> and Tae Bo for all of the reasons we all enjoy it

>> besides the attempt to lose weight

>> weight can be deceiving cuz now at 165, I look & feel a helluva lot

>better

>> than I did at 165 10 years ago

>> I see people getting into way smaller sizes than their weight

>> would indicate cuz of Tae Bo

>> just do Tae-Bo to feel better and to be healthier

>> don't think of it as exercise but as a release from stress

>>

>> Barb

>> who thinks some folks have a tendency to take this too seriously and

>forget

>> to just enjoy the work-out (AMEN BARB)

>

>Barb -- those are good points in ALL areas! I couldn't agree more with

>you. -- remind me again how long you have been doing Tae-Bo

>and how many days a week you do it??

>

>Remember, muscle weighs more than fat. I read that Taeboqueen weighed

>more as a size 4 than she did as a size 8!

>

>All starvation does is shut down your metabolism, and soon your body's

>ORGANS will follow. PLEASE KRISTEN DON'T DO THAT TO YOURSELF!!! Stick

>with it and do as Barb says -- EAT HEALTHY!!!

>

>Keep us posted you have me worried.

>

>TDF

>who would rather be a little chunky and have my health than starve

>myself in the name of thinness!!

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I also want to add that tae bo is not the only exercise I have been

doing. Prior to starting tae bo, I swam 65 laps at least every other day,

sometimes every day. Before that, it was tae bo, and before that, I trained

for a marathon (walking) and was walking 20 miles/week.

I have been exercising actively for a year now, and have not lost anything,

no inches, no weight.

In fact, I have GAINED 17 pounds...and its not muscle believe me. My waist

line and hips have expanded by 2-4 inches each...even though I exercised

actively at least 4x/week for the past year.

I am flabbier now than ever. I have wathced what my calorie intake and

have limited it to under 1800 as much as possible.

So you see, after a year of this, I have to wonder. The only time I ever

lost weight was when I just did not eat, and then I'd lose 7 pounds in a

week, and keep it off for months.

Re: Help

>

>

>>> << I have always believed that this whole idea of diet and exercise

>>is not

>>> going to work for me. The only thing that ever works is starvation.

>>>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>> starvation will not work!!!

>>> and you will suffer emotionally and may even hurt yourself physically

>>> just to gain it all back again and then some.

>>> How about just trying to keep meal portions down, eat what you crave,

>>> try to choose healthier carbs

>>> instead of dieting just thinking before you eat.

>>> Dine instead of eat, savoring your food with small bites.

>>> As soon as you feel hungry, dine on a snack

>>> and Tae Bo for all of the reasons we all enjoy it

>>> besides the attempt to lose weight

>>> weight can be deceiving cuz now at 165, I look & feel a helluva lot

>>better

>>> than I did at 165 10 years ago

>>> I see people getting into way smaller sizes than their weight

>>> would indicate cuz of Tae Bo

>>> just do Tae-Bo to feel better and to be healthier

>>> don't think of it as exercise but as a release from stress

>>>

>>> Barb

>>> who thinks some folks have a tendency to take this too seriously and

>>forget

>>> to just enjoy the work-out (AMEN BARB)

>>

>>Barb -- those are good points in ALL areas! I couldn't agree more with

>>you. -- remind me again how long you have been doing Tae-Bo

>>and how many days a week you do it??

>>

>>Remember, muscle weighs more than fat. I read that Taeboqueen weighed

>>more as a size 4 than she did as a size 8!

>>

>>All starvation does is shut down your metabolism, and soon your body's

>>ORGANS will follow. PLEASE KRISTEN DON'T DO THAT TO YOURSELF!!! Stick

>>with it and do as Barb says -- EAT HEALTHY!!!

>>

>>Keep us posted you have me worried.

>>

>>TDF

>>who would rather be a little chunky and have my health than starve

>>myself in the name of thinness!!

>>

>>

>>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

[Guest guest]

Good Idea Barb, I like that...maybe we could all compare what we are all

eating.

I have been surfing the web while patiently waiting for your answers!! And

on every site I have found, they all recommend in the neighborhood of

2200-2400cal/day for someone who is " moderately " active.

For those who are sedentary at my weight, they recommend 1900 cal!!! Right.

I think perhaps it really is my metabolism that is the culprit. So, the

next question is..how do I iincrease my metabolism?? I know that building

muscle will do that, and in fact, I was thinking that the slight gain on my

hips might actaully be a gain on my butt...from all those kicks. That tape

measure has to around the butt to measure the hips. So, I suppose that with

enough time, those old butt muscles and other larger group muscles will

eventually speed it up, and catch up with my intake.

Swimming and walking do not build muscle, they are primarily aerobic, which

is perhaps why my metabolism did not increase. But Tae Bo does build

muscle, so maybe it is just going to take longer.

Any other ideas on increasing metabolism??

Re: Help

>,

>

>just making some suggestions but do not want to make you think in terms of

>dieting just maybe some less costly substitutes:

>you know if you switched your cereal to one less sweetened but still tasty

>like Honey Nut Cheerios, it may save you some sugar carbs and offer more

>fiber. You can even snack on them straight without milk

>instead of cappacino how about iced coffee with skim milk and artificial

>sweetener

>or a diet hot chocolate

>if you are using a cappacino mix or a prepared kind it probably has sugar

>Another snack you may try is sunflower seeds or almonds

>just to keep your hands busy and curb your appetite

>try not to let yourself get so hungry when working

>cuz it seems like that is when you can be at your weakest

>

>Barb

>who thinks maybe we should all compare honestly what we eat on an ordinary

>day to get an idea of how our daily consumption may differ.

>Maybe that can be our next question of the week?

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I am a nurse. I used to work 3p-3a every third weekend, and 7p-3a 2 or 3

nights a week too. Now I work 3p-3a every other weekend, and pick up a few

extra hours here and there which may or may not be till 3am.

Bec. my kids are homeschooled they generally sleep in till about 9 or :30,

so I get about 4 or 5 hours of sleep, and maybe an extra hour of snooze. We

try to start " school " around 10am, or 10:30am. It sure beats having to get

u pto get them to school!!

I wonder too if my chronic sleep deprivation contributed to my decreased

metabolism, assuming thats whats going on.

, how many calories do you take in?? Do you mind if I ask your

height/weight, etc?? Maybe I could get a better idea of what I should be

doing with calories..

Thanks,

Re: Help

>In a message dated 11/24/99 10:09:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><< I'm fairly active for

> my lifestyle of working till 3am, and homeschooling. >>

>Hi! I was just wondering what you do for a living? I just got a job as a

>cashier at a grocery store. My hours are from 10pm to 5 am. My kids get up

>around 8 am. I am not quite sure how I will fit sleep in... I am just

>wondering how you do it. Sorry that I don't have any answers to your weight

>loss problems. But, I do think that Dietwatch's numbers are pretty high. I

>would ask your doctor what a good number of calories would be for you, if

you

>want to count them (which I hate doing).

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Actually I have the book sugarbusters, but I have never been able to stick

with it, I give up the sweets for a day or two, and then binge bec. I feel

so deprived. I just dont' know how to get through the first few weeks when

I can't even get through two days...I will obsess so much about it I will

eat icing right out of the can, or eat sugar right out of the bag to ease

the cravings. sigh

How do you get through the first 2 weeks without giving in?

Re: Help

>In a message dated 11/24/99 10:07:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><<

> I know this diet is full of carbs, but according to dietwatch, I'm doing

> just fine...my nutritional requirements are met...and if I do overdo, its

> usually carbs, but I haven't been overdoing too much for awhile.

> >>

>

>,

> I think you should eliminate a lot of the carbs from your diet. This

>seems most likely to be your problem in my opinion. I'm sorry to be

>redundant, but the book " Sugarbuster's " will direct you to the right carbs

to

>eat. I would like to suggest that you try a low carb diet for several

weeks,

>and see if this fixes your problem. Sharon

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, I make cake batter and cookie dough for the very same reason! LOL.

I did some more reading and I have all the symptoms of slow metabolsim,

cold, tired,fatigue, etc. I remember when I was fit, I was always on the

go, always felt good.

They also say, increase muscle mass to increase metabolism, especially after

the age of 30!! We lose our muscle mass after age 30. Maybe I'll ahve to

add strength training to the workout.

Re: Help

>In a message dated 11/24/99 10:49:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><< I will obsess so much about it I will

> eat icing right out of the can, or eat sugar right out of the bag to ease

> the cravings. sigh

>

> How do you get through the first 2 weeks without giving in?

> >>

>

>Dear ,

> It sounds like you are a raving carbohydrate junkie! I am sure to you

>it is no laughing matter though. I looooooove carbohydrates too, but I

don't

>think I have it quite as bad as you.

>I find that it usually comes on the strongest when I ovulate and when I am

>having the curse.

> The thing that I can equate your addiction to is smoking. I smoked

>heavily since I was 17, and I quit about 5 years ago. First of all,

instead

>of using the words try and I can't, I used the words will and I can. Also,

I

>cross stitched my way through the hardest part. I have heard before that

>when you are trying to quit something negative, you should replace it with

>something positive.

> And just so you don't think you are alone in this, I have been known

to

>make a cake just so I can have the batter. I wish I knew the right words

to

>keep you from eating junkie carbs, but this is something you are going to

>have to reach deep down inside yourself (like Blanks says) and find

the

>strength for. ;o) Sharon

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

> The only thing I can think of is that Dietwatch recommends too many

> calories. I know weight watchers would have my caloric goal closer to

> 1200-1400 cal/day (even with exercise), not 1700, like Dietwatch

recommends

> for " light activity " . In fact, at my height, they recommend 1500 for

> MAINTENANCE, after the weight is lost. I don't think I could cut my

intake

> that much if I tried.

,

I do WW and I almost ALWAYS eat over what they tell me to eat.

Honestly, I think that there recommendations are a little on the low

side...if you are active. I do taebo 6 days a week...4 days of

Advanced 2 days Basic back to back. So I am doing 60 minutes of

activity, 6 days a week at a fairly high intensity because I really try

to work out with a lot of intensity. Anyway, for my weight/height 5'9,

153 lbs, they say to eat 20-29 points and I just can't do it. I found

that even eating extremely healthy...3 meals, 2 small snacks of

yogurt/fruit, etc....that I was over my range...so I decided to eat

over their recommended points, and I found that it has helped me

tremendously. I usually eat between 1500-1700 calories a day.

Have you suffered from eating disorders in the past? I only ask this

because I have and it has taken me a LONG time to get to this point. I

also say this because you say the only thing that works for you is

starvation, which leads me to the assumption that you have struggled

with these issues in the past. I have been where you are, believing

that starvation was the only option. Your body may be rebelling

against your efforts right now, because it believes that you will again

go into starvation mode. You have been very active, exercise wise and

when you couple this with eating almost nothing, your metabolism almost

shuts down. When you have done this for a long time, it is hard to get

your body back on track. I stayed at the same weight for a long time,

before my metabolism finally got back on track to the point where I

could eat MORE and continue to lose weight.

I know it is hard not to get discouraged, BUT my advice to you is to

continue to eat the 1700 calories or so that is recommended. I

wouldn't go below 1500 if you are doing tae-bo 6 days a week. It may

take a little while for your body to realize that it is not going to be

starved again. In the meantime, you will be building muscle, which may

at first look like a " gain " in either weight or inches, but eventually

it will burn the fat that is there also.

Please, please don't revert back to the starvation thing. It will only

make you miserable in the end. If you want to e-mail me privately,

please do. For the next 2 weeks I will be at Shanabrook@.... Like

I said, I know where you are coming from. I have struggled with both

anorexia/bulimia in the past. Along with eating almost nothing and

working out for hours at a time, I also used to take laxatives. I've

done just about everything there is to lose weight. I got myself down

to 130 lbs. but still was not happy with the way I looked. I had no

muscle tone, even though I was working out all the time. Now at 153

lbs. I am happy with the way I look and I feel great. I eat more than

I ever thought I could, and am continuing to lose weight. I am sorry

this is long, or if I've overstepped my bounds, but I am really worried

about you and want you to know that I understand your frustration and

the feeling that the only way you can lose weight is to starve

yourself. Please e-mail me or post back here if you want to talk. And

please don't give up on tae-bo and trying to eat healthy. It may take

awhile, but I promise you, you'll see results.

Take care ...

[Guest guest]

I have never suffered from an eating disorder in the way that I actually

followed throught with it, but I would say I had the same mindset as those

with eating disorders. I have cut way down on calories for a week at a time

here and there, and always lost around 7 pounds, which I then kept off for

months or years.

When I was ill with a severe case of Mono, I lost 30 pounds in a month, and

kept it off until this year. That was 12 years ago. But you can see how

that disordered mentality only got reinforced.

I think things have just basically changed because I am getting older. 33

is not old,mind you, but it seems to have made a big difference in my

metabolism.

I have customized the dietwatch rec's to 1500/day. I refuse to go below

that when I am activly exercising. I don't think it would effective to do

that anyway...

I did get on the scale today and found I have gained yet another pound. I

pigged out big today at work too, but I don't really care today and thats a

first...no guilt! bec. (at least today) I am happy to exercise for the

health benefits I will gain.

I guess its hard for me to acknowledge that physiologically I am getting

older and I can't escape it just like everyone else can't escape it. I used

to think diet/exercise were a quick fix, and I'd be forever 20, but now I

realize that I'm only going to continue to " age " , and if I'm going to be

healthy and strong at 60, then I have to start now.

I went to the store, and bought more whole wheat bread, triscuits, and

cottage cheese. I'm going to use these for snacks. I'm also going to

schedule 6 meals/day..to eat whether I'm hungry or not, so that I don't ever

feel like I'm depriving myself, but I'll also schedule what I'm going to eat

so its planned, and not impulsive. I'll let you know how it goes in a few

weeks!

Re: Help

>

>> The only thing I can think of is that Dietwatch recommends too many

>> calories. I know weight watchers would have my caloric goal closer to

>> 1200-1400 cal/day (even with exercise), not 1700, like Dietwatch

>recommends

>> for " light activity " . In fact, at my height, they recommend 1500 for

>> MAINTENANCE, after the weight is lost. I don't think I could cut my

>intake

>> that much if I tried.

>

>,

>

>I do WW and I almost ALWAYS eat over what they tell me to eat.

>Honestly, I think that there recommendations are a little on the low

>side...if you are active. I do taebo 6 days a week...4 days of

>Advanced 2 days Basic back to back. So I am doing 60 minutes of

>activity, 6 days a week at a fairly high intensity because I really try

>to work out with a lot of intensity. Anyway, for my weight/height 5'9,

>153 lbs, they say to eat 20-29 points and I just can't do it. I found

>that even eating extremely healthy...3 meals, 2 small snacks of

>yogurt/fruit, etc....that I was over my range...so I decided to eat

>over their recommended points, and I found that it has helped me

>tremendously. I usually eat between 1500-1700 calories a day.

>

>Have you suffered from eating disorders in the past? I only ask this

>because I have and it has taken me a LONG time to get to this point. I

>also say this because you say the only thing that works for you is

>starvation, which leads me to the assumption that you have struggled

>with these issues in the past. I have been where you are, believing

>that starvation was the only option. Your body may be rebelling

>against your efforts right now, because it believes that you will again

>go into starvation mode. You have been very active, exercise wise and

>when you couple this with eating almost nothing, your metabolism almost

>shuts down. When you have done this for a long time, it is hard to get

>your body back on track. I stayed at the same weight for a long time,

>before my metabolism finally got back on track to the point where I

>could eat MORE and continue to lose weight.

>

>I know it is hard not to get discouraged, BUT my advice to you is to

>continue to eat the 1700 calories or so that is recommended. I

>wouldn't go below 1500 if you are doing tae-bo 6 days a week. It may

>take a little while for your body to realize that it is not going to be

>starved again. In the meantime, you will be building muscle, which may

>at first look like a " gain " in either weight or inches, but eventually

>it will burn the fat that is there also.

>

>Please, please don't revert back to the starvation thing. It will only

>make you miserable in the end. If you want to e-mail me privately,

>please do. For the next 2 weeks I will be at Shanabrook@.... Like

>I said, I know where you are coming from. I have struggled with both

>anorexia/bulimia in the past. Along with eating almost nothing and

>working out for hours at a time, I also used to take laxatives. I've

>done just about everything there is to lose weight. I got myself down

>to 130 lbs. but still was not happy with the way I looked. I had no

>muscle tone, even though I was working out all the time. Now at 153

>lbs. I am happy with the way I look and I feel great. I eat more than

>I ever thought I could, and am continuing to lose weight. I am sorry

>this is long, or if I've overstepped my bounds, but I am really worried

>about you and want you to know that I understand your frustration and

>the feeling that the only way you can lose weight is to starve

>yourself. Please e-mail me or post back here if you want to talk. And

>please don't give up on tae-bo and trying to eat healthy. It may take

>awhile, but I promise you, you'll see results.

>

>Take care ...

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

actually sweet potatoes are recommended by sugarbusters...white potatoes

aren't. )

, who is not ready to do sugarbusters yet, but will try modifying her

snacks to other things she likes that are good for her.

Re: Help

>In a message dated 11/24/99 10:04:56 PM Central Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><< I give up the sweets for a day or two, and then binge bec. I feel

> so deprived. I >>

>

>Try giving up sweets but eating sweet potatos once a day. They're very

>satisfying and good for you...though I know they're no-no's on

Sugarbusters.

>It might be a good transition from candy and cookies.

>

>susan

>

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>

[Guest guest]

yes, my mother did, but she attributed it to fast food. However, she is

also a carb junkie and is VERY overweight.

Re: Help

>In a message dated 11/24/99 11:03:23 PM Central Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><< 'm guessing my metabolism has taken a nose dive since turning 30. I am

now

> 33, and it seems to get worse with each year.

> >>

>

>Another thought on your situation...did your mother have similar changes at

>about that age? your aunts? sisters? cousins?

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Have a Nice Day!! wrote:

>

>

>> I did get on the scale today and found I have gained yet another pound. I

> pigged out big today at work too, but I don't really care today and thats a

> first...no guilt! bec. (at least today) I am happy to exercise for the

> health benefits I will gain.

>

> I guess its hard for me to acknowledge that physiologically I am getting

> older and I can't escape it just like everyone else can't escape it. I used

> to think diet/exercise were a quick fix, and I'd be forever 20, but now I

> realize that I'm only going to continue to " age " , and if I'm going to be

> healthy and strong at 60, then I have to start now.

>

> I went to the store, and bought more whole wheat bread, triscuits, and

> cottage cheese. I'm going to use these for snacks. I'm also going to

> schedule 6 meals/day..to eat whether I'm hungry or not, so that I don't ever

> feel like I'm depriving myself, but I'll also schedule what I'm going to eat

> so its planned, and not impulsive. I'll let you know how it goes in a few

> weeks!

, you sound like you have a good plan. The food you bought to

snack on should help. I know if I ate 3 bowls of cereal a day, even

non-sweetened cereal, I would definitely gain weight. I learned this

just from experience. I also wanted to suggest, if you have the time,

to increase the number of days you do taebo. I know says that 3-4

days are enough, but not for me. I have to exercise 6 days a week (with

an alternative exercise like hiking on my day off) for weight

loss/maintenance, mood maintenance, strengthening my weak back, pain

relief, ... . My slow metabolism, depression, sinuses, and bad back

insist on daily physical activiy. Good luck. See my " brag " for the

week, about non-weight loss physical benefits.

Elena

>

>

> Re: Help

>

> >

> >> The only thing I can think of is that Dietwatch recommends too many

> >> calories. I know weight watchers would have my caloric goal closer to

> >> 1200-1400 cal/day (even with exercise), not 1700, like Dietwatch

> >recommends

> >> for " light activity " . In fact, at my height, they recommend 1500 for

> >> MAINTENANCE, after the weight is lost. I don't think I could cut my

> >intake

> >> that much if I tried.

> >

> >,

> >

> >I do WW and I almost ALWAYS eat over what they tell me to eat.

> >Honestly, I think that there recommendations are a little on the low

> >side...if you are active. I do taebo 6 days a week...4 days of

> >Advanced 2 days Basic back to back. So I am doing 60 minutes of

> >activity, 6 days a week at a fairly high intensity because I really try

> >to work out with a lot of intensity. Anyway, for my weight/height 5'9,

> >153 lbs, they say to eat 20-29 points and I just can't do it. I found

> >that even eating extremely healthy...3 meals, 2 small snacks of

> >yogurt/fruit, etc....that I was over my range...so I decided to eat

> >over their recommended points, and I found that it has helped me

> >tremendously. I usually eat between 1500-1700 calories a day.

> >

> >Have you suffered from eating disorders in the past? I only ask this

> >because I have and it has taken me a LONG time to get to this point. I

> >also say this because you say the only thing that works for you is

> >starvation, which leads me to the assumption that you have struggled

> >with these issues in the past. I have been where you are, believing

> >that starvation was the only option. Your body may be rebelling

> >against your efforts right now, because it believes that you will again

> >go into starvation mode. You have been very active, exercise wise and

> >when you couple this with eating almost nothing, your metabolism almost

> >shuts down. When you have done this for a long time, it is hard to get

> >your body back on track. I stayed at the same weight for a long time,

> >before my metabolism finally got back on track to the point where I

> >could eat MORE and continue to lose weight.

> >

> >I know it is hard not to get discouraged, BUT my advice to you is to

> >continue to eat the 1700 calories or so that is recommended. I

> >wouldn't go below 1500 if you are doing tae-bo 6 days a week. It may

> >take a little while for your body to realize that it is not going to be

> >starved again. In the meantime, you will be building muscle, which may

> >at first look like a " gain " in either weight or inches, but eventually

> >it will burn the fat that is there also.

> >

> >Please, please don't revert back to the starvation thing. It will only

> >make you miserable in the end. If you want to e-mail me privately,

> >please do. For the next 2 weeks I will be at Shanabrook@.... Like

> >I said, I know where you are coming from. I have struggled with both

> >anorexia/bulimia in the past. Along with eating almost nothing and

> >working out for hours at a time, I also used to take laxatives. I've

> >done just about everything there is to lose weight. I got myself down

> >to 130 lbs. but still was not happy with the way I looked. I had no

> >muscle tone, even though I was working out all the time. Now at 153

> >lbs. I am happy with the way I look and I feel great. I eat more than

> >I ever thought I could, and am continuing to lose weight. I am sorry

> >this is long, or if I've overstepped my bounds, but I am really worried

> >about you and want you to know that I understand your frustration and

> >the feeling that the only way you can lose weight is to starve

> >yourself. Please e-mail me or post back here if you want to talk. And

> >please don't give up on tae-bo and trying to eat healthy. It may take

> >awhile, but I promise you, you'll see results.

> >

> >Take care ...

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for these words. I have seen my daughter in bits here

and there. She'll break out a sarcastic remark, or start roughousing

a bit with Dad. Your words about getting your son back have me in

tears.

She will also say things like " Mom, I don't hate you " . She's worried

about what she said during the episodes.

Sounds like you are working through it. I am encouraged - thanks so

much, and I'm thankful for this site.