Re: Potty Training

[Guest guest]

Hi-- as you can see from some of my posts last night, the longer on miralax, the more that my boy lost his urge to have bowel movements. I don't remember if it affected his urge to urinate, but at that age we were still telling him when to go, i.e. every few hours we would say "it's time to go use the potty" and we would just go do it. We didn't want to deal with accidents and that was the way we approached it. So you could try doing it that way, establish a regular time to visit the bathroom and just "go". For an incentive to cooperate, you could say that both of your kids are working towards a potty-party, i.e. when both are using the potty regularly (probably set the goal for urinating only at this time) then we'll have a potty-party!!! Then you could set the goal for bowel movements much later, after you figure out if the miralax is affecting his ability to recognize urges. Does he seem 'anxious' about

going into the bathroom now or something? W haemkerj wrote: HI. Son has been on miralax now for not quite a month. He will be 4 in a few weeks. For the past year we tried to potty train him and he's more or less OK for #1 on the potty. But, I imagine this whole being constipated thing deterred him from the pot for #2!So, now he's been on his medication for a little while. He will wants NOTHING to do with the potty. (I just

started re-asking him a week ago) Is it too early to even start mentioning this to him?DAughter (2 1/2) is ready to pot train. TAkes off own diaper at times to try to go. Maybe that will give him incentive......advice??J. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Bonnie -

Just wondering how your daughter's doing with school and the " underwear club " !

Hope it

is all still going well!

>

> After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you all on our potty

> training progress, since many of you are facing the same problem...my DD,

> who was resisting the potty because of painful past experiences, has

> progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her a " potty monkey " from

> Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer that you can set,

> and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go potty! Let's go

> potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was really cool, and

> although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years, she still raced to

> the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey called...they put the

> monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes encouraging comments

> like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice for constipated

> kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is actually pretty

> obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried setting a kitchen

> timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt too much like mom

> nagging, I guess...

>

> I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty if she wanted to

> go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to a daycare that

> was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow pages and started

> looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

>

> Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her school will allow,

> though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by telling my DD she had to

> be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear underwear she'd get

> to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had it on. That

> worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she loves to do...and

> voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is wearing it to

> preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for regressions if she

> has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that she gets very

> upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back to pull-ups. But

> so far reminding her about the underwear club and the secret handshake has

> gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope this lasts!

>

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for asking. It's nice to know someone out there is rooting for

us! Well, she is definitely improving. One issue we used to have was

that she wanted to stay in pull-ups. But now she is very insistent on

wearing underwear. I think what happened is that once she started

wearing underwear regularly, she realized that pull-ups and diapers are

much scratchier (she has sensory processing disorder and is very

sensitive to touch). She does put on diapers at night and then joins

the " diaper club " ...she still thinks the " underwear club " concept is

really fun and is sad on the days when her dad isn't here when she

wakes up to do the underwear club handshake with her. (She won't do the

underwear club handshake with me; apparently I don't do it exactly the

right way!)

On the other hand, she still resists using the potty and often prefers

to wait until she has started to have an accident. Which is driving me

crazy...at school she won't take time to use the potty and lately, I've

been staying in the parents' lounge (I'm a freelance writer, so I bring

my work with me) and going in to the classroom once in the morning to

take her to the bathroom. Which just does not seem like a long-term

solution! We are thinking of switching preschools (for various

reasons), and the new school, if we move her there, has regular potty

times and a kid-sized toilet, so I think that may help.

The bottom line (no pun intended!), I think, is that she won't be happy

about going to the bathroom until she feels secure that it's not going

to hurt if she has to poop. I *think* that's the issue with her waiting

until the last minute. Even if she just has to pee, she figures that

you never know what might happen once you sit down on the potty...And

in that regard, we thought we were on to something with the magnesium

citrate (and we were), but she's starting to refuse to take it (I

suspect because she knows it makes her poop more often). I just

received some Coromega fish oil and need to start coaxing her to take

that to see if it will help... And, recently, I had the chance to

consult an herbalist (I'm still saving up for the homeopathic

treatment; the herbalist was much less expensive), and she suggested

two herbal combinations (an herbal laxative and a digestive tonic),

that I think may be helping. My DD is willing to take the herbs (at

least for now!) and her stool frequency does seem to be improving so

far (but I'm only cautiously optimistic, as we've tried many things

that have seemed to help initially and then...didn't).

So...I would say that potty training is still a work in progress. I'm

praying that we can get her fully potty-trained in time to start

kindergarten next fall!

Bonnie

Bonnie -

Just wondering how your daughter's doing with school and the " underwear club " ! Hope it

is all still going well!

>

> After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you all on our potty

> training progress, since many of you are facing the same problem...my DD,

> who was resisting the potty because of painful past experiences, has

> progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her a " potty monkey " from

> Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer that you can set,

> and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go potty! Let's go

> potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was really cool, and

> although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years, she still raced to

> the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey called...they put the

> monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes encouraging comments

> like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice for constipated

> kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is actually pretty

> obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried setting a kitchen

> timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt too much like mom

> nagging, I guess...

>

> I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty if she wanted to

> go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to a daycare that

> was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow pages and started

> looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

>

> Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her school will allow,

> though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by telling my DD she had to

> be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear underwear she'd get

> to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had it on. That

> worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she loves to do...and

> voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is wearing it to

> preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for regressions if she

> has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that she gets very

> upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back to pull-ups. But

> so far reminding her about the underwear club and the secret handshake has

> gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope this lasts!

>

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

Glad that things are still pretty positive and that your flexible schedule

allows you to help

her at school. I do the same for my son when he's at school if I fear a bm is

pending. For

a while there, the process of having a bm was so painful (not sure how much is

physical

pain and how much is psychological pain, but either way, I wanted to be with him

if it

happened at school). I also freelance (as an editor for scientists) - so have

the ability to

adjust my work schedule as well.

It's interesting to read that your daughter has refused to take the mag citrate

& you

suspect she correlates it to the poop issues. And that you've tried so many

things that you

thought were helping and then didn't. I feel the same happens with my son. We

were

using an herbal tonic (that I wouldn't go back to even if he would take it now)

for a short

while, but he put 2 and 2 together and stopped wanting to take his " poopy

medicine. "

Then, our ped suggested Miralax, which I refused after finding this group. So

we tried

MOM tablets. He thought they were candy mints - I was excited as I assumed he'd

be

happy to take them indefinitely! But I think he was having a hard time holding

the poop in

again, he figured it out. Now we've been doing cherry MOM because he'll still

take it. I

have Kirkman's mag citrate and try every day to concoct something new that he'll

drink/

eat with it and have NO luck. I have a just-turned-3 year old telling me " No

magnesium

citrate in anything " ! I thought lemon sorbet was the trick, but I guess I may

have not

mixed it in well enough or somehow he tasted it in there and just said " no,

please " when I

offered more.

I wish I could get him to take the mag citrate. Aside from the fact that

there's nothing else

in it but mag citrate and citric acid (as opposed to the gunk in cherry MOM) - I

think he's

starting to figure out the 'cherry drink' connection to the bms. What are the

herbal

supplements/tonics you're trying? How were you getting your daughter to take

the mag

citrate before she began refusing?

Hang in there!

> > >

> > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you all on our

> > potty

> > > training progress, since many of you are facing the same problem...my

> > DD,

> > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past experiences, has

> > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her a " potty monkey "

> > from

> > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer that you can

> > set,

> > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go potty! Let's go

> > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was really cool, and

> > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years, she still

> > raced to

> > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey called...they put the

> > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes encouraging

> > comments

> > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice for

> > constipated

> > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is actually pretty

> > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried setting a

> > kitchen

> > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt too much like

> > mom

> > > nagging, I guess...

> > >

> > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty if she wanted

> > to

> > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to a daycare

> > that

> > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow pages and started

> > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > >

> > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her school will

> > allow,

> > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by telling my DD she

> > had to

> > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear underwear she'd

> > get

> > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had it on. That

> > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she loves to

> > do...and

> > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is wearing it to

> > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for regressions if

> > she

> > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that she gets very

> > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back to pull-ups.

> > But

> > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the secret handshake

> > has

> > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope this lasts!

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your son sounds so much like my daughter! Temperamentally as well as with health issues...

The herbal tonics we are trying now are both by Nature's Sunshine. The

herbal laxative is LB Extract, which contains: cascara, senna,

buckthorn bark, alfalfa, psyillium, licorice, rhubarb, barberry bark,

ginger, and slippery elm. The herbalist recommended that my DD take

only one drop of this at a time, beginning with one drop at one meal

and gradually building up to one drop with other meals, if needed.

(Cascara can be kind of harsh for kids, so I think I would be nervous

giving her more than a drop of it anyway.) The digestive bitters tonic

contains cardamom, raspberry, stevia, dandelion, orange peel and

gentian, and is supposed to be a good source of enzymes. She suggested

my DD take two drops of this, beginning with two drops at the same meal

as the herbal laxative and, similarly, building up to two drops with

other meals as needed. Of course, we started this and she had two

good-sized BMs in three days, and I was excited. But, she's tapering

off again. Which I think may be largely because I'm having trouble

getting that magnesium citrate into her...still, we'll keep up with the

herbs too and see if anything happens.

The way I was getting her to take the magnesium citrate was that I

would mix the powder with a little boiling water, and then I would add

that to a cup of (organic) apple juice, along with an ice cube or two

(she was in an ice cube phase). It has always been hard to get her to

drink any juices, but she had suddenly started being willing to drink

apple juice. Now, she's losing her willingness to drink juice

again...sigh. Don't most parents have the opposite problem? It seems

like " normal " kids love juice! Oh well...

Bonnie

Hi Bonnie,

Glad that things are still pretty positive and that your flexible schedule allows you to help

her at school. I do the same for my son when he's at school if I fear a bm is pending. For

a while there, the process of having a bm was so painful (not sure how much is physical

pain and how much is psychological pain, but either way, I wanted to be with him if it

happened at school). I also freelance (as an editor for scientists) - so have the ability to

adjust my work schedule as well.

It's interesting to read that your daughter has refused to take the mag citrate & you

suspect she correlates it to the poop issues. And that you've tried so many things that you

thought were helping and then didn't. I feel the same happens with my son. We were

using an herbal tonic (that I wouldn't go back to even if he would take it now) for a short

while, but he put 2 and 2 together and stopped wanting to take his " poopy medicine. "

Then, our ped suggested Miralax, which I refused after finding this group. So we tried

MOM tablets. He thought they were candy mints - I was excited as I assumed he'd be

happy to take them indefinitely! But I think he was having a hard time holding the poop in

again, he figured it out. Now we've been doing cherry MOM because he'll still take it. I

have Kirkman's mag citrate and try every day to concoct something new that he'll drink/

eat with it and have NO luck. I have a just-turned-3 year old telling me " No magnesium

citrate in anything " ! I thought lemon sorbet was the trick, but I guess I may have not

mixed it in well enough or somehow he tasted it in there and just said " no, please " when I

offered more.

I wish I could get him to take the mag citrate. Aside from the fact that there's nothing else

in it but mag citrate and citric acid (as opposed to the gunk in cherry MOM) - I think he's

starting to figure out the 'cherry drink' connection to the bms. What are the herbal

supplements/tonics you're trying? How were you getting your daughter to take the mag

citrate before she began refusing?

Hang in there!

> > >

> > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you all on our

> > potty

> > > training progress, since many of you are facing the same problem...my

> > DD,

> > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past experiences, has

> > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her a " potty monkey "

> > from

> > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer that you can

> > set,

> > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go potty! Let's go

> > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was really cool, and

> > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years, she still

> > raced to

> > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey called...they put the

> > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes encouraging

> > comments

> > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice for

> > constipated

> > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is actually pretty

> > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried setting a

> > kitchen

> > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt too much like

> > mom

> > > nagging, I guess...

> > >

> > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty if she wanted

> > to

> > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to a daycare

> > that

> > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow pages and started

> > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > >

> > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her school will

> > allow,

> > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by telling my DD she

> > had to

> > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear underwear she'd

> > get

> > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had it on. That

> > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she loves to

> > do...and

> > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is wearing it to

> > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for regressions if

> > she

> > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that she gets very

> > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back to pull-ups.

> > But

> > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the secret handshake

> > has

> > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope this lasts!

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Try lemonade or OJ with a splash of cranberry or pomegranate. The

stronger juices hide stuff better. Have you tried sparkling juices

from Trader Joes? The sparkling cranberry hides a lot of

supplements.

Also -- I have been adding trace minerals for a few months now --

and I think that helps and has a very mild chelation effect.

BTW -- VSL#3 should not be given with sparkling water, juice or pop.

> > > > >

> > > > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you

all on

> > our

> > > > potty

> > > > > training progress, since many of you are facing the same

> > problem...my

> > > > DD,

> > > > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past

experiences, has

> > > > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her

a " potty monkey "

> > > > from

> > > > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer

that you can

> > > > set,

> > > > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go

potty! Let's

> > go

> > > > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was

really cool,

> > and

> > > > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years,

she still

> > > > raced to

> > > > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey

called...they put

> > the

> > > > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes

encouraging

> > > > comments

> > > > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice

for

> > > > constipated

> > > > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is

actually pretty

> > > > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried

setting a

> > > > kitchen

> > > > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt

too much

> > like

> > > > mom

> > > > > nagging, I guess...

> > > > >

> > > > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty

if she

> > wanted

> > > > to

> > > > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to

a daycare

> > > > that

> > > > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow

pages and

> > started

> > > > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her

school will

> > > > allow,

> > > > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by

telling my DD

> > she

> > > > had to

> > > > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear

underwear

> > she'd

> > > > get

> > > > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had

it on.

> > That

> > > > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she

loves to

> > > > do...and

> > > > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is

wearing it

> > to

> > > > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for

> > regressions if

> > > > she

> > > > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that

she gets

> > very

> > > > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back

to

> > pull-ups.

> > > > But

> > > > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the

secret

> > handshake

> > > > has

> > > > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope

this lasts!

> > > > >

> > > > > Bonnie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, but the problem is, she doesn't like anything that has a strong flavor...she goes back and forth with orange juice. Sometimes she'll drink it...usually not. No lemonade either. And no soda or anything like it. She thinks the fizziness hurts her tongue...for the VSL#3, I've lately started mixing it with Activia yogurt. I've been meaning to add trace minerals...though her doctor discouraged me, saying that kids with sensory issues often can't stand the taste of them in the water and that she should be getting plenty of minerals in her diet. I'm not so sure he's right (on either count). And have been thinking that probably the rest of us could use the minerals too...do you find they affect the taste of water much? What type do you use? I have been thinking of trying terramin clay.

Try lemonade or OJ with a splash of cranberry or pomegranate. The

stronger juices hide stuff better. Have you tried sparkling juices

from Trader Joes? The sparkling cranberry hides a lot of

supplements.

Also -- I have been adding trace minerals for a few months now --

and I think that helps and has a very mild chelation effect.

BTW -- VSL#3 should not be given with sparkling water, juice or pop.

> > > > >

> > > > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you

all on

> > our

> > > > potty

> > > > > training progress, since many of you are facing the same

> > problem...my

> > > > DD,

> > > > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past

experiences, has

> > > > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her

a " potty monkey "

> > > > from

> > > > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer

that you can

> > > > set,

> > > > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go

potty! Let's

> > go

> > > > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was

really cool,

> > and

> > > > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years,

she still

> > > > raced to

> > > > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey

called...they put

> > the

> > > > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes

encouraging

> > > > comments

> > > > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice

for

> > > > constipated

> > > > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is

actually pretty

> > > > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried

setting a

> > > > kitchen

> > > > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt

too much

> > like

> > > > mom

> > > > > nagging, I guess...

> > > > >

> > > > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty

if she

> > wanted

> > > > to

> > > > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to

a daycare

> > > > that

> > > > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow

pages and

> > started

> > > > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her

school will

> > > > allow,

> > > > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by

telling my DD

> > she

> > > > had to

> > > > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear

underwear

> > she'd

> > > > get

> > > > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had

it on.

> > That

> > > > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she

loves to

> > > > do...and

> > > > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is

wearing it

> > to

> > > > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for

> > regressions if

> > > > she

> > > > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that

she gets

> > very

> > > > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back

to

> > pull-ups.

> > > > But

> > > > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the

secret

> > handshake

> > > > has

> > > > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope

this lasts!

> > > > >

> > > > > Bonnie

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

LeeAnn - thank you for the sparkling cranberry juice tip! I think we have a

winner! (at

least for today!!)

Bonnie - that is truly amazing that your daughter doesn't like juice! Most

parents would

probably love to have their kids turn down juice! Definitely makes it tougher

for

supplementing!

Thanks, again, ladies, for sharing such helpful info!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update you

> > all on

> > > > our

> > > > > > potty

> > > > > > > training progress, since many of you are facing the same

> > > > problem...my

> > > > > > DD,

> > > > > > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past

> > experiences, has

> > > > > > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her

> > a " potty monkey "

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer

> > that you can

> > > > > > set,

> > > > > > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go

> > potty! Let's

> > > > go

> > > > > > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was

> > really cool,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for years,

> > she still

> > > > > > raced to

> > > > > > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey

> > called...they put

> > > > the

> > > > > > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes

> > encouraging

> > > > > > comments

> > > > > > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good advice

> > for

> > > > > > constipated

> > > > > > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is

> > actually pretty

> > > > > > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried

> > setting a

> > > > > > kitchen

> > > > > > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt

> > too much

> > > > like

> > > > > > mom

> > > > > > > nagging, I guess...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the potty

> > if she

> > > > wanted

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send her to

> > a daycare

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow

> > pages and

> > > > started

> > > > > > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her

> > school will

> > > > > > allow,

> > > > > > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by

> > telling my DD

> > > > she

> > > > > > had to

> > > > > > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear

> > underwear

> > > > she'd

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she had

> > it on.

> > > > That

> > > > > > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that she

> > loves to

> > > > > > do...and

> > > > > > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and is

> > wearing it

> > > > to

> > > > > > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out for

> > > > regressions if

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean that

> > she gets

> > > > very

> > > > > > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go back

> > to

> > > > pull-ups.

> > > > > > But

> > > > > > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the

> > secret

> > > > handshake

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really hope

> > this lasts!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bonnie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I really like cellfood but it has a taste. I think it's helping me

as well.

http://www.herbalremedies.com/celprod.html

this one mixes in without any taste, IMO

http://www.herbalremedies.com/fulmincom32o.html

this one is concentrated so you could start with a few drops

http://www.herbalremedies.com/trace-relax.html

I vary which one I add each day now.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After I sent my last post, it occurred to me to update

you

> > all on

> > > > our

> > > > > > potty

> > > > > > > training progress, since many of you are facing the

same

> > > > problem...my

> > > > > > DD,

> > > > > > > who was resisting the potty because of painful past

> > experiences, has

> > > > > > > progressed tremendously in this area. We bought her

> > a " potty monkey "

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > Potty M.D., which helped a lot at first. It has a timer

> > that you can

> > > > > > set,

> > > > > > > and every 90 minutes the monkey will say " I need to go

> > potty! Let's

> > > > go

> > > > > > > potty! " Both my kids (ages 4 and 9) thought this was

> > really cool,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > although the 9-year-old has been potty-trained for

years,

> > she still

> > > > > > raced to

> > > > > > > the bathroom with her sister whenever the monkey

> > called...they put

> > > > the

> > > > > > > monkey on its own little potty, where it sits and makes

> > encouraging

> > > > > > comments

> > > > > > > like, " Let's sit here for a while and relax! " (Good

advice

> > for

> > > > > > constipated

> > > > > > > kids.) From a grown-up point of view the monkey is

> > actually pretty

> > > > > > > obnoxious, but my kids loved it. I had previously tried

> > setting a

> > > > > > kitchen

> > > > > > > timer to get my DD to go to the bathroom, but that felt

> > too much

> > > > like

> > > > > > mom

> > > > > > > nagging, I guess...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I also informed my DD that she would have to use the

potty

> > if she

> > > > wanted

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > go to preschool, and otherwise I would have to send

her to

> > a daycare

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > was licensed for diaper-changing. I got out the yellow

> > pages and

> > > > started

> > > > > > > looking...that seemed to motivate her too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then my husband pushed the issue of pull-ups (which her

> > school will

> > > > > > allow,

> > > > > > > though they don't encourage it) versus underwear by

> > telling my DD

> > > > she

> > > > > > had to

> > > > > > > be in the underwear club. He told her if she would wear

> > underwear

> > > > she'd

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > to do the secret underwear handshake with him once she

had

> > it on.

> > > > That

> > > > > > > worked...and he made up a really silly handshake that

she

> > loves to

> > > > > > do...and

> > > > > > > voila!, she's back to wearing underwear every day, and

is

> > wearing it

> > > > to

> > > > > > > preschool...so far so good. We just have to watch out

for

> > > > regressions if

> > > > > > she

> > > > > > > has accidents...the sensory integration problems mean

that

> > she gets

> > > > very

> > > > > > > upset if she has an accident and then she wants to go

back

> > to

> > > > pull-ups.

> > > > > > But

> > > > > > > so far reminding her about the underwear club and the

> > secret

> > > > handshake

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > gotten her past the accident regressions...I really

hope

> > this lasts!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bonnie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ahhh potty training

My 8 year old start almmost at 6

My 6 year old at 5

My 4 year old, was doing number 2 and pee pee at 2 and suddenly stop going

number 2 when we transition from one school to another over the summer.

Now he only goes pee .. and went back to diapers after being in underwear

because of number 2.

I start it with my first one with the the baby whipes story book and stickers.

it worked after he turned 5

Also I made him clean himself, and wash his underwear ( under super vision of

course.

With my 2nd it was weird, onces he turned 5 and ( of course pecs last forever

training )

I told him he was going to be 5 tomorrow and no no more diapers only underwear

cause he was a big boy ... suddenly like magic on his birthday he start to go to

the bathroom on his own, no accidents at all.

I was like wow, I guess , like some people say, one day after many repetitions

it clicks to them.

My 4 year old ahhhhhhh we are still working on it, I am hoping that by 5 he

get's it.

I do notice that everytime he poo is when I hugh him or pick him up.

And he only does it with me.

Wich is sort of strange.

I need to observe.

I heard the TEEACH program helps a lots of our kids as long is the potty is

because of sensory issues.

Good luck

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My son is 7 and was potty trained, then he decided to start pooping in his pants, and now recently he will just stand there and pee in his pants. I just dont know what to do about this.

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WARRIOR MOM & DAD OF

2 special boys

Diagnosed on paper with asthma 03/17/96 Bipoler 07/23/96 ADHD/MD/AS/ODD 10/14/08

and

Mykael Diagnosed on paper with EPILIPSY 11/17/2005 ADHD/PPD/OCD/ODD 10/14/08

April has been designated as National Autism Awareness Month!

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To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 4:24:39 PMSubject: Re: Potty Training

Ahhh potty trainingMy 8 year old start almmost at 6My 6 year old at 5 My 4 year old, was doing number 2 and pee pee at 2 and suddenly stop going number 2 when we transition from one school to another over the summer.Now he only goes pee .. and went back to diapers after being in underwear because of number 2.I start it with my first one with the the baby whipes story book and stickers. it worked after he turned 5Also I made him clean himself, and wash his underwear ( under super vision of course.With my 2nd it was weird, onces he turned 5 and ( of course pecs last forever training ) I told him he was going to be 5 tomorrow and no no more diapers only underwear cause he was a big boy ... suddenly like magic on his birthday he start to go to the bathroom on his own, no accidents at all.I was like wow, I guess , like some people say, one day after many repetitions it clicks to them.My 4 year old ahhhhhhh we are

still working on it, I am hoping that by 5 he get's it.I do notice that everytime he poo is when I hugh him or pick him up.And he only does it with me.Wich is sort of strange.I need to observe.I heard the TEEACH program helps a lots of our kids as long is the potty is because of sensory issues.Good luck> From: Mirielle M. Chapa <pinkie6earthlink (DOT) net>> Subject: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Potty Training> To: Texas-Autism- Advocacy@ yahoogroups.. com>

Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 4:44 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son finally started> peeing in the toilet, but > won't poop. I think there's that fear that> some kids > experience.> > If you have any> suggestions on how I can make him > overcome the fear, PLEASE let me know.> > Thanks!> Mirielle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

What has changed in diet, enviornment etc...?

Nagla

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> > From: Mirielle M. Chapa <pinkie6earthlink (DOT) net>

> > Subject: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Potty Training

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absolutely nothing has changed here so I even went to his class and asked the teacher if anything had changed there and she said nothing has. We dont know what to do as this time.

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WITH LOVE

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WARRIOR MOM & DAD OF

2 special boys

Diagnosed on paper with asthma 03/17/96 Bipoler 07/23/96 ADHD/MD/AS/ODD 10/14/08

and

Mykael Diagnosed on paper with EPILIPSY 11/17/2005 ADHD/PPD/OCD/ODD 10/14/08

April has been designated as National Autism Awareness Month!

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To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Sent: Monday, April 6, 2009 8:32:17 PMSubject: Re: Potty Training

What has changed in diet, enviornment etc...?Nagla> > > From: Mirielle M. Chapa <pinkie6earthlink (DOT) net>> >

Subject: [Texas-Autism- Advocacy] Potty Training> > To: Texas-Autism- Advocacy@ yahoogroups. com> > Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 4:44 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son finally started> > peeing in the toilet, but > > won't poop. I think there's that fear that> > some kids > > experience.> > > > If you have any> > suggestions on how I can make him > > overcome the fear, PLEASE let me know.> > > > Thanks!> > Mirielle> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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