Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I used to, and then it would only make the next time I heard the sound worse. This is the part of this condition I would think is psychological. That is where CBT is helping me. It allows me to hear the sound, feel the anger, and let it go. Much nicer than being pissed off all day long over a sound I heard 4 hours earlier. > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Yes. Definitely yes. And then the anxious anticipation of hearing it AGAIN makes it seem worse than initially. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:36:14 PMSubject: Re: weird. I used to, and then it would only make the next time I heard the soundworse. This is the part of this condition I would think ispsychological. That is where CBT is helping me. It allows me to hearthe sound, feel the anger, and let it go. Much nicer than beingpissed off all day long over a sound I heard 4 hours earlier. >> Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and soundand then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it??> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 For me the feeling of anger or rage will continue even after the noise has stopped for some time...I just experience that heightened sense of frustration and anxiety and will usually find a way to take it out on the person making the noise someone else that I may interact with. The feelings do eventually go away but it does take some time...I was watching the movie "What the Bleep do we Know" and I was wondering about the effects that all of the negative emotions we experience have on our bodies. If we focus our problem from that movie's perspective, the anger that we experience is strengthening the nervous connections in our brains that allow for those negative feelings. Every time we hear a trigger and experience those feelings we are just maintaining and strengthening that response. It would be so wonderful to find a way to break this vicious cycle...Love,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44:38 PMSubject: weird. Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it after it stopped than when they actually heard it??------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Sometimes. That's partly why I hate the memory of my second grade teacher so much.= M-F.>Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I am so with you on that. If I get pissed about and dwell on it, the next time i hear the noise it bothers me even worse. To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:36:14 PMSubject: Re: weird. I used to, and then it would only make the next time I heard the soundworse. This is the part of this condition I would think ispsychological. That is where CBT is helping me. It allows me to hearthe sound, feel the anger, and let it go. Much nicer than beingpissed off all day long over a sound I heard 4 hours earlier. >> Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and soundand then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it??> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Happens to me too. Of course, then I'm waiting for it to happen again, which sure doesn't help! Why, oh, why?To: Soundsensitivity From: wolfuchan@...Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:52:07 -0700Subject: Re: weird. Sometimes. That's partly why I hate the memory of my second grade teacher so much.= M-F.>Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 That was a great way to put it! It's probably causing adrenal fatigue or burnout from all the cortisol and epinephrine we go through in a day that normal people don't expend. Now, how to retrain the pathways. I found what Dr said about about the lower tones you feel so earplugs don't work for them. So is it a pain response that we get to these sounds? And how to dull the pain response or whatever it is. Is it a heightened sense of pain from the sounds?To: Soundsensitivity From: alexandrara@...Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:55:48 -0800Subject: Re: weird. For me the feeling of anger or rage will continue even after the noise has stopped for some time...I just experience that heightened sense of frustration and anxiety and will usually find a way to take it out on the person making the noise someone else that I may interact with. The feelings do eventually go away but it does take some time...I was watching the movie "What the Bleep do we Know" and I was wondering about the effects that all of the negative emotions we experience have on our bodies. If we focus our problem from that movie's perspective, the anger that we experience is strengthening the nervous connections in our brains that allow for those negative feelings. Every time we hear a trigger and experience those feelings we are just maintaining and strengthening that response. It would be so wonderful to find a way to break this vicious cycle...Love,andraFrom: veggietater89 <veggietater89>To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44:38 PMSubject: weird. Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it after it stopped than when they actually heard it??------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin allergies which emerge at times when all these things are happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the absence of them allow us to recover. Waleska > > > That was a great way to put it! It's probably causing adrenal fatigue or burnout from all the cortisol and epinephrine we go through in a day that normal people don't expend. Now, how to retrain the pathways. I found what Dr said about about the lower tones you feel so earplugs don't work for them. So is it a pain response that we get to these sounds? And how to dull the pain response or whatever it is. Is it a heightened sense of pain from the sounds? > > > > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > From: alexandrara@... > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:55:48 -0800 > Subject: Re: weird. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me the feeling of anger or rage will continue even after the noise has stopped for some time...I just experience that heightened sense of frustration and anxiety and will usually find a way to take it out on the person making the noise someone else that I may interact with. The feelings do eventually go away but it does take some time... > > I was watching the movie " What the Bleep do we Know " and I was wondering about the effects that all of the negative emotions we experience have on our bodies. If we focus our problem from that movie's perspective, the anger that we experience is strengthening the nervous connections in our brains that allow for those negative feelings. Every time we > hear a trigger and experience those feelings we are just maintaining and strengthening that response. It would be so wonderful to find a way to break this vicious cycle... > > Love, > > andra > > > To: Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44:38 PM > Subject: weird. > > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE. > Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin allergies which emerge at times when all these things are happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the absence of them allow us to recover. Waleska > > > That was a great way to put it! It's probably causing adrenal fatigue or burnout from all the cortisol and epinephrine we go through in a day that normal people don't expend. Now, how to retrain the pathways. I found what Dr said about about the lower tones you feel so earplugs don't work for them. So is it a pain response that we get to these sounds? And how to dull the pain response or whatever it is. Is it a heightened sense of pain from the sounds? > > > > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > From: alexandrara@... > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:55:48 -0800 > Subject: Re: weird. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me the feeling of anger or rage will continue even after the noise has stopped for some time...I just experience that heightened sense of frustration and anxiety and will usually find a way to take it out on the person making the noise someone else that I may interact with. The feelings do eventually go away but it does take some time... > > I was watching the movie " What the Bleep do we Know " and I was wondering about the effects that all of the negative emotions we experience have on our bodies. If we focus our problem from that movie's perspective, the anger that we experience is strengthening the nervous connections in our brains that allow for those negative feelings. Every time we > hear a trigger and experience those feelings we are just maintaining and strengthening that response. It would be so wonderful to find a way to break this vicious cycle... > > Love, > > andra > > > To: Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44:38 PM > Subject: weird. > > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE. > Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hi Waleska,I also experience stomach problems and can even feel pain in my stomach when trigger exposure. I too notice other people and how relaxed they seem. I often wonder what that feels like! Can you imagine not reacting to sounds? I just think sometimes how different my personality, decisions, life, energy level and mental state would be. I think I would feel like a completely different person.Love,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:51:58 AMSubject: Re: weird. Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin allergies which emerge at times when all these things are happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the absence of them allow us to recover. Waleska >> > That was a great way to put it! It's probably causing adrenal fatigue or burnout from all the cortisol and epinephrine we go through in a day that normal people don't expend. Now, how to retrain the pathways. I found what Dr said about about the lower tones you feel so earplugs don't work for them. So is it a pain response that we get to these sounds? And how to dull the pain response or whatever it is. Is it a heightened sense of pain from the sounds?> > > > > > > To: Soundsensitivity > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:55:48 -0800> Subject: Re: weird.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me the feeling of anger or rage will continue even after the noise has stopped for some time...I just experience that heightened sense of frustration and anxiety and will usually find a way to take it out on the person making the noise someone else that I may interact with. The feelings do eventually go away but it does take some time...> > I was watching the movie "What the Bleep do we Know" and I was wondering about the effects that all of the negative emotions we experience have on our bodies. If we focus our problem from that movie's perspective, the anger that we experience is strengthening the nervous connections in our brains that allow for those negative feelings. Every time we> hear a trigger and experience those feelings we are just maintaining and strengthening that response. It would be so wonderful to find a way to break this vicious cycle...> > Love,> > andra> > > To: Soundsensitivity > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:44:38 PM> Subject: weird.> > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it??> > > > ------------------------------------> > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.> Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 That's partly why my sleeping schedule is so cracked out, and why I like sleep so much. Being up past the folks, then sleeping in as much as possible. allows for cheap sensory deprivation. Naturally this is very unhealthy, and my folks and a doctor would prefer it if I only got eight hours of sleep and go to bed at night. (snarls) = M-F. > >Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can > have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach > problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound > and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin > allergies which emerge at times when all these things are > happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. > > >I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never > feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at > least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at > all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the > absence of them allow us to recover. > > >Waleska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Wow, that's totally me. I am up really late (3am at least) and sleep until almost noon. Luckily I work from 12:30 to 5 so I can get away with this. I love sleep and you are right... cheap sensory deprivation! I have always required a lot of sleep to even function. I need at least 8-9 hours or I'm dead. Going through the days dealing with sound wears me out physically, mentally, and emotionally. The stress from 4S definitely has affects on our bodies probably in ways we aren't even aware of. I know my heart problem is related to this. It only happens when I am extremely stressed out. That is why I love to stay up so late because I feel like I can breathe and relax a little... until the damn dog barks across the street. LOL. Luckily she's not on duty every night. > > That's partly why my sleeping schedule is so cracked out, and why I > like sleep so much. Being up past the folks, then sleeping in as much > as possible. allows for cheap sensory deprivation. > > Naturally this is very unhealthy, and my folks and a doctor would > prefer it if I only got eight hours of sleep and go to bed at night. > (snarls) > > > = M-F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Same here--sleep from like 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and you avoid so much extra stimulation. But I do work nights by choice. You really cut stress down by being up at night when everyone else is sleeping. Re: Re: weird. That's partly why my sleeping schedule is so cracked out, and why I like sleep so much. Being up past the folks, then sleeping in as much as possible. allows for cheap sensory deprivation. Naturally this is very unhealthy, and my folks and a doctor would prefer it if I only got eight hours of sleep and go to bed at night. (snarls) = M-F. > >Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can > have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach > problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound > and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin > allergies which emerge at times when all these things are > happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. > > >I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never > feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at > least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at > all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the > absence of them allow us to recover. > > >Waleska Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I also have problems with my stomach. The noises aggravate me and this transcends on down to my stomach. No doctor has been able to diagnose my stomach problems. In fact, I just had the nuclear scan of my gall bladder a couple of days ago and it was normal. Does anyone else in the group have stomach problems or any other sensitivities or allergies? I have many allergies and sensitivities to medicines as well. Just discovered that I am sensitive to the lowest dose of diuretic within the past week...when I landed in the hospital for a rapid heartbeat. I was dehydrated and a little low on potassium. I think you also mentioned something about your skin. I do have cea. I don't know...is there some way we can all list what's wrong with us to see if we have any common points? I don't know if that would be of benefit or not. Just a thought though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hi Darlene, I relate to you completely about the sleep thing. It takes me hours to fall asleep and then I need A LOT of sleep to feel refreshed and somewhat energetic. I have actually never been bothered by the sound of dogs barking but I have never really been exposed to it for a long period of time. I'm currently staying and visiting with a friend and in the afternoon I can hear a dog barking far away and it really has started to drive me crazy. I never understood the dog barking trigger but now I can! I wonder if it still would have bothered me if I had never heard anyone mention it as a trigger.Has anyone ever "acquired" triggers that they didn't previously have after hearing someone mention it?Love,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:41:39 AMSubject: Re: weird. Wow, that's totally me. I am up really late (3am at least) and sleepuntil almost noon. Luckily I work from 12:30 to 5 so I can get awaywith this. I love sleep and you are right... cheap sensorydeprivation! I have always required a lot of sleep to even function. I need at least 8-9 hours or I'm dead. Going through the daysdealing with sound wears me out physically, mentally, and emotionally. The stress from 4S definitely has affects on our bodies probably inways we aren't even aware of. I know my heart problem is related tothis. It only happens when I am extremely stressed out. That is whyI love to stay up so late because I feel like I can breathe and relaxa little... until the damn dog barks across the street. LOL. Luckilyshe's not on duty every night.>> That's partly why my sleeping schedule is so cracked out, and why I > like sleep so much. Being up past the folks, then sleeping in as much > as possible. allows for cheap sensory deprivation.> > Naturally this is very unhealthy, and my folks and a doctor would > prefer it if I only got eight hours of sleep and go to bed at night. > (snarls)> > > = M-F.------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soundsensitivity/<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Soundsensitivity/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: mailto:Soundsensitivity-digest mailto:Soundsensitivity-fullfeatured <*> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours but I'm interested if anyone has "trouble" falling asleep. Are you "choosing" to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not being able to fall asleep?To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 1:48:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: weird. Same here--sleep from like 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and you avoid so much extra stimulation. But I do work nights by choice. You really cut stress down by being up at night when everyone else is sleeping. Re: Re: weird. That's partly why my sleeping schedule is so cracked out, and why I like sleep so much. Being up past the folks, then sleeping in as much as possible. allows for cheap sensory deprivation. Naturally this is very unhealthy, and my folks and a doctor would prefer it if I only got eight hours of sleep and go to bed at night. (snarls) = M-F. > >Stress and the result of noise or sensitivity to them defnitelly can > have an effect in our bodies. I personally suffer from stomach > problems and it intensifies when I am experiencing a trigger sound > and can't get away from at the moment. I am also experiencing skin > allergies which emerge at times when all these things are > happening. It is definitelly debilitating to the body and mind. > > >I see other people and seem to be and feel rested, while I never > feel that way, I always feel exhausted, more when I don't have at > least a time of the day where I can get away from all sounds, at > all. We all need some type of sound, but there is a time, when the > absence of them allow us to recover. > > >Waleska Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hello all, Back from the cruise and slowly reading all the information that has been gathered here over the past few weeks. I have learnt a lot about this condition from my time away. 1. I have learned that being in an environment that is different from the norm and being exposed to the sounds it is easier to deal with and even ignore to some degree 2. Being relaxed helps a huge amount with the reactions 3. Alcohol helps with the reactions but to a lesser amount then I first through, ie not as effective as I had hoped. 4. New triggers quickly replace the old triggers unless self control is put in place 5. When returning home I found myself confronted with an overwhelming amount of 4S triggers that I had almost forgotten about, I was not ready for them and as such felt the reaction a lot stronger. 6. The noises that bothered me on the boat no longer effect me as much but my ability to deal with the normal 4S sounds was reduced. 7. I have now reduced the amount of caffeine I am intaking and this has made a tremendous improvement to my 4S, as caffeine is a stimulant, reducing it helps my nervous system. 8. Lastly it would appear that lack of sleep is not an indication for me on my 4S rather, the lack of stage of sleep I have is a factor, I believe that if I have less REM then I am more effected by sounds. SO I cant offer a cure or anything too helpful at this stage other then this, relax more, direct yourself away from stimulants and dodge if possible, 4S triggers in the same environmental settings. From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Kathy Howe Sent: Saturday, 28 February 2009 6:55 AM To: Soundsensitivity Subject: RE: Re: weird. andra-- You are so right. Everything is affected by this condition. I would love for the NIH or someone to figure out a treatment or cure for it and just have you all experience normal hearing!! To not be bothered by other people! That is my prayer for everyone who suffers with this. Other people should not be able to have that kind of control over your life!! I know in my heart that some day it will be possible. Take care-- Kathy Howe weird. > > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it?? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE. > Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Thank you for all of your understanding and support Kathy )I wish the same for your daughter...Love,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:54:53 PMSubject: RE: Re: weird. andra-- You are so right. Everything is affected by this condition. I would love for the NIH or someone to figure out a treatment or cure for it and just have you all experience normal hearing!! To not be bothered by other people! That is my prayer for everyone who suffers with this. Other people should not be able to have that kind of control over your life!! I know in my heart that some day it will be possible. Take care-- Kathy Howe weird.> > > Does anyone get MORE agitated or annoyed after they hear and sound and then think about it > after it stopped than when they actually heard it??> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.> Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hi . Good to see you got back safe from your cruise. I do hope you had a wonderful time! Interesting observances for you. I too find that caffeine makes me worse overall with both sound and sleep. If I have caffeine, I don't sleep and it makes me more unable to deal with the 4S. Plus, caffeine in general makes me more agitated so that doesn't help with the 4S either. I rarely drink it now and find I feel much better. I agree with the REM sleep thing... I find that on nights that I wake up numerous times, I have a hard time the next day. I still got many hours of sleep, but it was interrupted sleep and it does make a difference. > > Hello all, > > > > Back from the cruise and slowly reading all the information that has been > gathered here over the past few weeks. I have learnt a lot about this > condition from my time away. > > > > 1. I have learned that being in an environment that is different from > the norm and being exposed to the sounds it is easier to deal with and even > ignore to some degree > > 2. Being relaxed helps a huge amount with the reactions > > 3. Alcohol helps with the reactions but to a lesser amount then I > first through, ie not as effective as I had hoped. > > 4. New triggers quickly replace the old triggers unless self control > is put in place > > 5. When returning home I found myself confronted with an overwhelming > amount of 4S triggers that I had almost forgotten about, I was not ready for > them and as such felt the reaction a lot stronger. > > 6. The noises that bothered me on the boat no longer effect me as much > but my ability to deal with the normal 4S sounds was reduced. > > 7. I have now reduced the amount of caffeine I am intaking and this > has made a tremendous improvement to my 4S, as caffeine is a stimulant, > reducing it helps my nervous system. > > 8. Lastly it would appear that lack of sleep is not an indication for > me on my 4S rather, the lack of stage of sleep I have is a factor, I believe > that if I have less REM then I am more effected by sounds. > > SO I cant offer a cure or anything too helpful at this stage other then > this, relax more, direct yourself away from stimulants and dodge if > possible, 4S triggers in the same environmental settings. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I have had trouble sleeping in the past and then I would sleep my normal hours. But since I moved to my new apartment, I can't sleep. I am trying to get myself tired to the point where I have to drag myself to bed, but then in bed I can fall asleep. I don't want to use my earplugs while asleep because I am afraid i wobn't hear my alarm and wake up. I have to be by 5:30 a.m. Ear plugs help me fall asleep faster by blocking noises that prevent me from sleeping, but I a am afraid that I won't get to work on time. I always figure out a way to adapt to my situations, so it will just take some time. I was in tears this morning, because lack of sleep, obviously wears you out. I am at work now, my stomach is a problem in itself too, I also have problems with it, when I am stressed out. I am afraid of not being able to sleep the whole night as I have been waking up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep. I am hesitant to talk to my most recent therapist. I don't want to go back on medication. I don't like the way it makes me feel. We all have our good and bad days. I am telling myself, this just happen to be one of the bad ones. Waleska > > > > I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until > late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours but > I'm interested if anyone has " trouble " falling asleep. Are you > " choosing " to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not > being able to fall asleep? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Hi Waleska )I'm sorry to hear about your sleeping problem...I have similar issues. I find that exercise is EXTREMELY helpful...just 30 minutes a day. Are you able to exercise during the day?Love,andraTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 8:40:39 AMSubject: Re: weird.I have had trouble sleeping in the past and then I would sleep my normal hours. But since I moved to my new apartment, I can't sleep. I am trying to get myself tired to the point where I have to drag myself to bed, but then in bed I can fall asleep. I don't want to use my earplugs while asleep because I am afraid i wobn't hear my alarm and wake up. I have to be by 5:30 a.m. Ear plugs help me fall asleep faster by blocking noises that prevent me from sleeping, but I a am afraid that I won't get to work on time. I always figure out a way to adapt to my situations, so it will just take some time. I was in tears this morning, because lack of sleep, obviously wears you out. I am at work now, my stomach is a problem in itself too, I also have problems with it, when I am stressed out. I am afraid of not being able to sleep the whole night as I have been waking up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep. I am hesitant to talk to my most recent therapist. I don't want to go back on medication. I don't like the way it makes me feel. We all have our good and bad days. I am telling myself, this just happen to be one of the bad ones. Waleska > >> > I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until> late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours but> I'm interested if anyone has "trouble" falling asleep. Are you> "choosing" to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not> being able to fall asleep?> >>------------------------------------PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Thanks andra. I exercise at least 4 times a week. It helps me relax, but for the moment. I even bought a stuffed animal with organic herbs (bought it at whole foods) to see if that can help. Since I have many environmental and food allergies, it helps to breath better, but not to fall asleep. I don't know what I was thinking when I moved to my new apartment. Is in the middle of downtown and I am on the 4th floor. I think I was more concern about affording a place and that is why I ended there, but with more time I think I could have done better. I have five more months on my lease and I just want to be able to take one day at a time. During the day, I can deal with the noises by just using earplugs and or my ipod, at night obviously my concern is hearing the alarm, so the earplugs may be a problem. Thanks for listening. Waleska > > > > > > I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until > > late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours > but > > I'm interested if anyone has " trouble " falling asleep. Are you > > " choosing " to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not > > being able to fall asleep? > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE. > Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I'm sorry that you are under such stress...can you set the alarm on your cell phone and program it to vibrate? Maybe you can keep wearing your earplugs and put your mobile under your pillow so that you can feel it?Here's a vibrating alarm clock I found on amazon...I hope this helps...http://www.amazon.com/Shake-Awake-Vibrating-Portable-Travel/dp/B000RZPEGSLove,andraFrom: rodriguezwaleska To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 4:08:56 PMSubject: Re: weird. Thanks andra. I exercise at least 4 times a week. It helps me relax, but for the moment. I even bought a stuffed animal with organic herbs (bought it at whole foods) to see if that can help. Since I have many environmental and food allergies, it helps to breath better, but not to fall asleep. I don't know what I was thinking when I moved to my new apartment. Is in the middle of downtown and I am on the 4th floor. I think I was more concern about affording a place and that is why I ended there, but with more time I think I could have done better. I have five more months on my lease and I just want to be able to take one day at a time. During the day, I can deal with the noises by just using earplugs and or my ipod, at night obviously my concern is hearing the alarm, so the earplugs may be a problem. Thanks for listening. Waleska> > >> > > I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until> > late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours > but> > I'm interested if anyone has "trouble" falling asleep. Are you> > "choosing" to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not> > being able to fall asleep?> > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------> > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE.> Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 In this case, it's probably best to just wear the earplugs and get a louder clock, if you're that worried about being late to work. On the other hand, your current clock might turn out just fine. I used to wear earplugs to bed whenever my dog started snoring, and I still heard my alarm. In fact, it saved me the startled jolt I get every time I hear my alarm. = M-F.>I have had trouble sleeping in the past and then I would sleep my normal hours. But since I moved to my new apartment, I can't sleep. I am trying to get myself tired to the point where I have to drag myself to bed, but then in bed I can fall asleep. I don't want to use my earplugs while asleep because I am afraid i wobn't hear my alarm and wake up. I have to be by 5:30 a.m. Ear plugs help me fall asleep faster by blocking noises that prevent me from sleeping, but I a am afraid that I won't get to work on time. I always figure out a way to adapt to my situations, so it will just take some time. I was in tears this morning, because lack of sleep, obviously wears you out. I am at work now, my stomach is a problem in itself too, I also have problems with it, when I am stressed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I sometimes use 3 alarms, staggered times, each alarm is progressively louder. the last one is the clock radio alarm volume on high and if I am really worried about getting up, tune it to a station I can't stand. It gets thru the earplugs alright. Also during the winter I have a light on a timer to set to switch on the light on shortly before the alarms. not a morning person ...To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 3:08:56 PMSubject: Re: weird. Thanks andra. I exercise at least 4 times a week. It helps me relax, but for the moment. I even bought a stuffed animal with organic herbs (bought it at whole foods) to see if that can help. Since I have many environmental and food allergies, it helps to breath better, but not to fall asleep. I don't know what I was thinking when I moved to my new apartment. Is in the middle of downtown and I am on the 4th floor. I think I was more concern about affording a place and that is why I ended there, but with more time I think I could have done better. I have five more months on my lease and I just want to be able to take one day at a time. During the day, I can deal with the noises by just using earplugs and or my ipod, at night obviously my concern is hearing the alarm, so the earplugs may be a problem. Thanks for listening. Waleska > > > > > > I noticed that many of us go to sleep very late and sleep until > > late. I know that some of you have different work schedule hours > but > > I'm interested if anyone has "trouble" falling asleep. Are you > > "choosing" to stay up and go to sleep late or is it a matter of not > > being able to fall asleep? > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS A STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL GROUP AND NO MESSAGES ARE TO BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OUTSIDE OF THE YAHOO GROUP MEMBERSHIP SITE OR REPRODUCED OR COPIED AND MAILED FOR ANY PURPOSE. > > ALSO DO NOT SHARE MEMBER EMAIL ADDRESSES OR NAMES WITH ANYONE. > Thank you. MJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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