Re: Common triggering sounds...?

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chewing (of any kind and the sounds that go with it)

feet and shoe scraping on the floor (feels like sandpaper on my ears)

high-pitched sounds (like keys, chimes, dishes)

voices ( harsh t & s sound )

sniffing

Those are the big ones.

Some TV sets give off an extremely high pitched sound, that I have found

most other people cannot hear, but I do and it gives me a headache. So

include that one too.

thegreatmollylama wrote:

> After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are some

> common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make a

> list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone have any

> ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so many of

> us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently many

> of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction...but why that

> sound in particular?

>

> Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to the

> list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?

>

> gum chewing (of course)

> slurping food/beverages

> sniffling

> loud mufflers on cars, buses

>

>

>

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To my dismay, I would like to add TMJ type jaw clicking, nose

blowing, clearing ones throat in addition to all the bodily related

sounds listed already.

My question is, does anyone notice the intensity of your irritation

in connection to the relationship you have with the " offender? " For

example, when my children (or any child) make any of these sounds I

am virtually unaffected but when my husband or father make these

sounds I feel my blood boil. When strangers make these sounds it has

to be particularly offensive or they have to be in my space for me to

get upset. Any ideas or similar experiences anyone?

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>

> I personally have no problem with mufflers, but I can add scuffing

(of feet/shoes), breathing in general, chewing anything at all (not

necessarily gum), whistling, swallowing, wrappers crinkling, and

faint clicks (examples I can think of are people picking their nails,

or the knitting needles of the girl who sits next to me in one of my

classes), to name a few more.

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> > To: Soundsensitivity

> > From: thegreatmollylama@...

> > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:35:49 +0000

> > Subject: Common triggering sounds...?

> >

> >

> > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are

some

> > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make a

> > list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone have

any

> > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so

many of

> > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently

many

> > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction...but why

that

> > sound in particular?

> >

> > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to the

> > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?

> >

> > gum chewing (of course)

> > slurping food/beverages

> > sniffling

> > loud mufflers on cars, buses

> >

> >

> >

>

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I for the life of me cannot explain this, but if I really love the offender or really like them very much, it's SLIGHTLY more tolerable. Like I will be able to stay in the situation and be in misery in my mind and tolerate it, whereas if I hate the person or do not know them, I want to run away and I get myself out of there asap.

Common triggering sounds...?> >> >> > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are some> > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make a> > list of the most painful and

triggering sounds. Does anyone have any> > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so many of> > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently many> > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction... but why that> > sound in particular?> >> > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to the> > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?> >> > gum chewing (of course)> > slurping food/beverages> > sniffling> > loud mufflers on cars, buses> >> >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> http://www.windowsl ive.com/messenge r/connect_ your_way. html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_Refresh_ messenger_ video_042008>

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There's a lot of old posts on this subject. Many people on this site feel the same way you do, but we're not sure why certain people bother them more than others.

Common triggering sounds...?> >> >> > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are some> > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make a> > list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone have any> > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so many of> > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently many> > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction...but why that> > sound in particular?> >> > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to the> > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?> >> > gum chewing (of course)> > slurping food/beverages> > sniffling> > loud mufflers on cars, buses> >> >> > > > __________________________________________________________> Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008>

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It goes to show that the brain does play a big part in sound

sensitivity. Once the sound comes into our awareness then our brain gets

wired to be more focused on it.

I wish when I was a kid I could have received treatment for this. You

know to " nip it in the bud " .

BUT, I do feel real pain in my ears when hearing certain sounds. Whether

or not I'm aware of them. Why is that?

Being wired up this way is really cruel!!!

Yvette Piraino wrote:

> My husband has also caught it from me as well, also not as bad, but

> now he is disgusted by gum chewing.

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> > > > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are

> > some

> > > > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make

> a

> > > > list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone

> have

> > any

> > > > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so

> > many of

> > > > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently

> > many

> > > > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction... but

> why

> > that

> > > > sound in particular?

> > > >

> > > > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to

> the

> > > > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?

> > > >

> > > > gum chewing (of course)

> > > > slurping food/beverages

> > > > sniffling

> > > > loud mufflers on cars, buses

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I get more upset by my older child as well, but I didn't used to. I wonder if it has something to do with the amount of time you're exposed to someone. Others have said that when they meet someone new, they're not bothered by them for a while. Maybe it's the same with kids--we have a sort of honeymoon period with them. She didn't bother me until she was about 6, and my 4-year-old makes a lot of noises but they don't bother me nearly as much.

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I have to agree with you on it being the amount of time we are exposed

Subject: Re: Common triggering sounds...?To: Soundsensitivity Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 9:50 AM

I get more upset by my older child as well, but I didn't used to. I wonder if it has something to do with the amount of time you're exposed to someone. Others have said that when they meet someone new, they're not bothered by them for a while. Maybe it's the same with kids--we have a sort of honeymoon period with them. She didn't bother me until she was about 6, and my 4-year-old makes a lot of noises but they don't bother me nearly as much.

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I have taken my daughter everywhere trying to "nip it in the bud." I don't think it is possible. Plus, I don't think it is possible to "catch" it from someone. I think that the reaction many people who "catch" it is totally different from the actual people who have it. I now get annoyed by gum chewers only because my daughter has 4s. I don't have the severe rage/anxiety over it, just annoyance.

I personally feel that 4s starts out as a totally physical defect--perhaps a thinning of some inner ear membrane that causes certain frequencies to be severely uncomfortable. Thereby, causing a psychological response that worsens over time. The reason some people bother someone more that others is still strange to me. I think that the noise bothers them, but something in the brain allows them to not be as bothered when they find out it's coming from a stranger, child, pet, or inanimate object and many times a new love. However, many people aren't even able to dismiss it regardless of who makes the sound.

But I definitely think it is rooted as a physical malfunction first and then psychological responses follow.

I have seen this condition from its incarnation in my daughter, and I have paid very close attention to it beginnings and its evolution throughout the past 3.5 years. Many of you who have it got it so long ago, it's hard for you to remember what came first, the chicken or the egg.

Plus, several of you were abused--physically and/or emotionally--by your main trigger person, thereby making you believe the abuse caused your 4s.

I think it is so important to pay attention to the children in this group. They have 4s in the purest form, before it gets too "contaminated" by the psychological responses.

I think it is a big clue that some people have "electrical-like" shooting to their genitals or down a side of their bodies.

WE NEED RESEARCH!

-----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:19 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: Common triggering sounds...?

It goes to show that the brain does play a big part in sound sensitivity. Once the sound comes into our awareness then our brain gets wired to be more focused on it.I wish when I was a kid I could have received treatment for this. You know to "nip it in the bud".BUT, I do feel real pain in my ears when hearing certain sounds. Whether or not I'm aware of them. Why is that?Being wired up this way is really cruel!!!Yvette Piraino wrote:> My husband has also caught it from me as well, also not as bad, but > now he is disgusted by gum chewing.>> >>> Common triggering sounds...?> > > >> > > >> > > > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are> > some> > > > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make> a> > > > list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone> have> > any> > > > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so> > many of> > > > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently> > many> > > > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction... but> why> > that> > > > sound in particular?> > > >> > > > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to> the> > > > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?> > > >> > > > gum chewing (of course)> > > > slurping food/beverages> > > > sniffling> > > > loud mufflers on cars, buses> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live> > Messenger.> > > http://www.windowsl <http://www.windowsl/> ive.com/messenge > <http://ive.com/messenge> r/connect_ your_way. html?> > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ WL_Refresh_ messenger_ video_042008> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> ____________ __> > Be a better friend, newshound, and> > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.> http://mobile. yahoo.com/ ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > <http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it now. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ%20> >>

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Kathy, I think you're exactly right--research needs to focus on the kids who have this. We adults have layers of psychological coping that obscure what is really going on. I think the roots are physical as well. I want to add that I also think you're an awesome mom! It's so great that you take your daughter seriously and are trying so hard to help her.

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I agree about the autism... it isn't a logical argument. I think my

friend was just thinking the symptoms were similar. Anyway, I think

it is great that you are advocating so strongly for your daughter.

>

> Hopefully someone will research it eventually. You're right about

your own

> doctors--they can't help you. I've been to every kind

imagineable. Most

> just think it is a behavioral issue--needs to see a psychiatrist,

or some

> have heard of it but say there is nothing they can do for it.

>

> Then there are others who say they can help, and you pay them a lot

of

> money, and you're pretty much still at square 1.

>

> As far as the autism connection, the only connection I see is that

many

> people with autism have sound sensitivities also. If you reason

that " many

> people who have autism suffer from sound sensitivity so a person

who has

> sound sensitivity must have autism " is just an invalid argument.

That's

> like saying " dogs have fur, so all animals with fur are dogs. "

>

> I'm pretty sure that most people on this site do not have autism

and I

> definitely know my daughter is not autistic. Although I know there

is a

> wide spectrum of what is considered autism.

>

> I think that many people just want an easy label for what you guys

have.

>

> [Kathy Howe] -----Original Message-----

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i was thinking about what you just wrote, i chewed gum my whole life

(not like a pig) but for fresh breath and that is one thing that

didn't bother me when i was young or even until maybe 10 yrs. ago

but it REALLY does now. i remember when that started, i was working

with 4 other women who 'all' chewed and snapped gum and i could not

leave my work space and one day, i quit and found another job. it

was 'torture' i'm not sure how old i was when i became aware of my

dad's chewing but that was something i could not get away from and

the first sound i remember bothering me. so, what minute, what day,

what happened that made me hear and see him 'so gross' that i wanted

to run away??? good question. the same with his whistling, very

shrill and usually no particular tune, just 'whistling' LOUD. i felt

the same way about that but not quite as bad. i've been giving a lot

of thought to the sounds that bother me now, not why the sound itself

bothers me but that i am not in control of 'it', cannot make it stop,

i can relate most of them to certain people who made the sound that i

could not make stop or the machine making the sound that i want

to 'shoot'..........i know where the ball bouncing started just about

5 yrs. ago, someone who was bouncing and i asked to stop and they

wouldn't and 'that' was a sound that 'never' bothered me before but

is one of my worst now. i just turned my t.v. off, turned on my fan,

put my earplugs in and came here because my upstairs neighbors turned

on their a/c that rev's up and down and i said loudly, it sounds like

i live in a 'factory'...............i could no longer enjoy what

little peace and quiet i had so i did the only thing i know how,

escape...here or go and read a book. donnie

> >

> > After reading a lot of the posts, I have noticed that there are

some

> > common noises that trigger us. I was wondering if we could make

a

> > list of the most painful and triggering sounds. Does anyone

have any

> > ideas as to why those particular sounds that seem to bother so

many of

> > us? We can all agree that gum chewing makes me (and apparently

many

> > of us!!!) want to run screaming in the other direction...but

why that

> > sound in particular?

> >

> > Here's a few sounds that make my skin crawl, can people add to

the

> > list, maybe put why they think that sound is so painful...?

> >

> > gum chewing (of course)

> > slurping food/beverages

> > sniffling

> > loud mufflers on cars, buses

> >

>

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I think is the fact that most of the stories I have read is from

people like me who work in cubicles. It is also an environment

problem.

Today, I was stressed out in the morning, that an understanding co-

worker approached me and talked to me, I felt better afterwards. He

knows about noise sensitivity and the effects of loud noise in

general, but he is one of the loud one's

The thing is that I can handle loud noises or any triggers if I know

that the person close to me at least have an understanding and gives

the courtesy and respect we all deserve. Some people just don't do

that.

I happen to have been close to what I call a transitional cubicle

and interns have been sitting there for the past year and a half. I

have nothing against anyone, I just happen to have had bad

experiences with the interns.

I recently suggested to my supervisor (she asked me for suggestions)

to keep them busy enough to avoid having to listen to loud personal

conversations all day, having them invite other interns to their

cubicle and become louder when other people are trying to work or

suggest that providing them with a radio will encourage them to put

it loud (I believe as other co-workers do that if anyone wants to

listen to their music, they should keep it to themselves by using

ipods, etc.).

I am encountering this situation, which is not only relevant to

sound sensitivity but also lack of professionalism, manners,

etiquette and courtesy.

I am planning to openly talk about the effects of noise in

productivity with my co-workers. I may have a chance to do so in an

informal meeting we are having next week. This is not a problem on

sound sensitivity alone, we all understand that noise pollution is

real and affect all of us, sound sensitive or not.

I understand all your feelings. Unfortunally we can't ask the world

to understand, but we can make them aware.

Sincerely,

Waleska