Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 Coach Mack aka Padrick Zulueta wrote: >I coach gymnastics and one of my mentors believe that in gymnastics, >everthing is " fast twitch so you always want to train the way you would use >it. " That made sense to me when he said that. >So all his conditioning programs all work the fast twitch muscles. One of >his exercises involve a short range of movement version of the push up; A >quarter down and up again to straight arms very rapidly. He makes his >group place their hands a little bit more in front, almost above forehead on >the floor and picks up his butt as to work more of the shoulders. He adds, > " When you do a back handspring or push of the vaulting table, Do you bend >your arms all the way? So you have to work your muscles the way you >would use them. " > >The push up really looks silly and would be considered the " wrong way " if >you did it in a fitness gym. I have done it and it works for me but I also >do the full range of motion exercises. But, I wonder what would be the >consequences if you only trained for fast twitch. > >What do you guys think? Is my friend missing something? His girls are >pretty good. >My guess is that working the slow twitch muscles would add more stability. > You are working slow twitch. During a maximal effort both fast twitch and slow twitch are recruited. However, I would tend to add some full range movements (in this case something like a 'Hindu' push-up) for joint health. OTOH - in gymnastics there is some much movement and ROM training it probably wouldn't be necessary. -- Hobman Saskatoon, CANADA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 It goes with my belief system. " If you want to be a good at the bench press then you have to perform the bench press. " But you also have to remember that everything works but nothing works forever. There is a time for full range movements, a time for slow movements, a time for fast movements and a time for competive like movements. If it were me, I would use your ideas (slow movements) with that of your mentors (fast movements) but on seperate days. Plus I would add in a days where the kids have to do presses with weight on their back(max effort). One day would also be dedicated to a set number(repetition) either at one time or 20 reps after each gymnastics movement. Don Younger Idaho Falls, ID, US Coach Mack aka Padrick Zulueta wrote: I coach gymnastics and one of my mentors believe that in gymnastics, everthing is " fast twitch so you always want to train the way you would use it. " That made sense to me when he said that. So all his conditioning programs all work the fast twitch muscles. One of his exercises involve a short range of movement version of the push up; A quarter down and up again to straight arms very rapidly. He makes his group place their hands a little bit more in front, almost above forehead on the floor and picks up his butt as to work more of the shoulders. He adds, " When you do a back handspring or push of the vaulting table, Do you bend your arms all the way? So you have to work your muscles the way you would use them. " The push up really looks silly and would be considered the " wrong way " if you did it in a fitness gym. I have done it and it works for me but I also do the full range of motion exercises. But, I wonder what would be the consequences if you only trained for fast twitch. What do you guys think? Is my friend missing something? His girls are pretty good. My guess is that working the slow twitch muscles would add more stability. Coach Mack Beachwood, NJ, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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