Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Kathie, I wanted to say welcome to the group even though I am also new here and haven't posted an intro yet. It sounds like you are very dedicated to your walking. Kudos to you for doing such a great job. Ginger Hi Everyone,I was inspired to join this group when I read about Steve's fantasticjourney. I started walking in earnest last summer when i realised my weight wasinterfering with every aspect of my life. my knees and hip hurt like heck.In the meantime I have lost about 30lbs. i need to lose about another 20 or so. My knees and hip no longer hurt!I live in Germany and since nordic walking is all the rage here, that ismostly what I do.I do about 20-30kms per week (sorry i don't know the miles, i guess about 15 or so, more when the weather is good. I am the mother of two kids and havea more than full-time job, so finding the time is hard. I do two longishwalks on the weekend and usually go 2-3 times in the week for shorter stretches. For years I made excuses about my time, but somehow you have toincorporate it into your life. I'm going to be 45 in July.Since my weight is dropping, I have started jogging some as well, but I get tired easily and my heart rate goes up too high, so I need to shed some morepounds before I really start running.I have an overweight 11 year old son and a very overweight husband. I needto set a good example and hopefully this will encourage more activity in my family. It breaks my heart that my son is fat because I know what he isgoing to go through when he gets into his teens. He has not gained weightnow for almost a year so I'm still hoping he will grow into his weight. I am going to do everything to make sure my little girl stays within a healthyweight range and more importantly stays active.I use a garmin 301 to track my distance. it's a bit of an expensive gadget,but it really does inspire me to walk and try to beat my times. Plus I can see my tracks on google earth. I started out with a pedometer, trying to do10,000 steps per day.I mostly walk alone because I can't find anyone who goes at my speed afterall the practice I have had and the couple of girls I used to walk with quit as soon as the weather got bad.Here's hoping to give and get some inspiration in this group. Kathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Kathie, With respect to your walking, you're doing well. As to not knowing the 20-30kms per week conversion to miles you may want to bookmark this website. http://www.onlineconversion.com/ On Line Conversions for 20kms thats about 12.4 miles for 30kms thats about 18.6 miles so 15 or so is a good estimation. ;-) Gerard > > Hi Everyone, > > I was inspired to join this group when I read about Steve's > fantastic journey. > > I started walking in earnest last summer when i realised my weight > was interfering with every aspect of my life. my knees and hip > hurt like heck. In the meantime I have lost about 30lbs. i need > to lose about another 20 or so. My knees and hip no longer hurt! > > I live in Germany and since nordic walking is all the rage here, > that is mostly what I do. > > I do about 20-30kms per week (sorry i don't know the miles, i > guess about 15 or so, more when the weather is good. I am the > mother of two kids and have a more than full-time job, so finding > the time is hard. I do two longish walks on the weekend and > usually go 2-3 times in the week for shorter stretches. For years > I made excuses about my time, but somehow you have to incorporate > it into your life. I'm going to be 45 in July. > > Since my weight is dropping, I have started jogging some as well, > but I get tired easily and my heart rate goes up too high, so I > need to shed some more pounds before I really start running. > > I have an overweight 11 year old son and a very overweight > husband. I need to set a good example and hopefully this will > encourage more activity in my family. It breaks my heart that my > son is fat because I know what he is going to go through when he > gets into his teens. He has not gained weight now for almost a > year so I'm still hoping he will grow into his weight. I am going > to do everything to make sure my little girl stays within a > healthy weight range and more importantly stays active. > > I use a garmin 301 to track my distance. it's a bit of an > expensive gadget, but it really does inspire me to walk and try to > beat my times. Plus I can see my tracks on google earth. I > started out with a pedometer, trying to do 10,000 steps per day. > > I mostly walk alone because I can't find anyone who goes at my > speed after all the practice I have had and the couple of girls I > used to walk with quit as soon as the weather got bad. > > Here's hoping to give and get some inspiration in this group. > > Kathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi Kathie Welcome! > I do about 20-30kms per week (sorry i don't know the miles 20 km is 12.4 miles. 30 km is 18.6. (Google: 20 km in miles) :-) I don't think you need to worry about inspiration from this group. It's full of awesome people winning their own personal challenges. ;-) Good luck! G -- Coming soon: " A Little Twist of Texas " Not your typical biker road trip http://www.markeroni.com history adventures http://www.ravensroads.com motorcycle adventures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Welcome to the group, Kathie. Nice to have you here. Would you please explain what nordic walking is and how it differs from " regular " walking? Thanks. Elaine > Hi Everyone, > > I was inspired to join this group when I read about Steve's fantastic > journey. > > I started walking in earnest last summer when i realised my weight was > interfering with every aspect of my life. my knees and hip hurt like heck. > In the meantime I have lost about 30lbs. i need to lose about another 20 or > so. My knees and hip no longer hurt! > > I live in Germany and since nordic walking is all the rage here, that is > mostly what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Elaine, Nordic Walking is rather well explained at http://walking.about.com/cs/poles/a/nordicwalking.htm An excerpt from that site is copied below. What is Nordic Walking? Nordic walking uses two specially designed poles to work the upper body while walking. Like cross country skiing, the poles are used by the arms to match each step the person takes. Gerard > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I was inspired to join this group when I read about Steve's > > fantastic journey. > > > > I started walking in earnest last summer when i realised my > > weight was interfering with every aspect of my life. my knees > > and hip hurt like heck. In the meantime I have lost about > > 30lbs. i need to lose about another 20 or so. My knees and > > hip no longer hurt! > > > > I live in Germany and since nordic walking is all the rage here, > > that is mostly what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 You're welcom. Gerard > > Thanks for the info, Gerard. I'll check out the site. > > Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thanks for you note. I too recently found this group and have been really intrigued by the striking similarities some of us share. Much of what you wrote mirrors my own experience. I completely understand when you say it sometimes occurs with certain people in conjunction with something else they are doing. I had a very bossy mother who could be quite severe at the dinner table and I remember the exact moment when I was about nine or ten when the way she ate began to infuriate me. I could never say anything about it as this topic was definitely NOT up for discussion. I internalized this and it caused me to become very anxious and I believe detrimentally affected my school studies. I would be so enraged from having to sit through dinner that I could not focus on anything. I was treated for ADD when I was a kid which was a much more rare diagnosis, I am currently 37. Not sure which came first in this instance but I think the one exacerbated the other. I struggle with it to this day and I agree it has been devastating to have this affliction. I get accused of being neurotic, very moody or just plain mean when all I seek is just some peace and quiet. bugfuzz2001 wrote: I can't believe there are people who have experienced the exact same symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just part of being an anxious type of person. My problems started when I was about ten, but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose sniffing has been my most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain people would just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go back to feeling normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed it, and then one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt so guilty about it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset about noises they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't be considerate enough to stop making those noises around me. Over the years, I have learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the noises don't bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal with the stress on the inside. It probably affects me more than I know. I also developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my teeth when I sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more when I am more stressed out. I have also determined that the people who bother me by making the noises are mostly people who are doing something else to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I may feel that I am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add insult to injury, that person has to keep sniffing their nose annoyingly. Often, I feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was made to feel like I was ruining everybody else's life because of my sensitivity to sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and quiet. I can only deal with it for so long and then I just have to get away. I wonder what it would be like if I had never had a problem with sound sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me to have social anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that becoming aware of something you never noticed before can be devestating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi there, same goes for me - I'm a new member & was completely shocked to find other people with such similar experiences. My main frustration is with eating noises, and I know what you mean about sniffing, it’s brutal too. For me, I think it’s the repetition of these sounds. I fixate completely on them, and can’t find a way to escape or drown them out. If I knew for sure that it would stop after a few sniffs, gum smacks or crunches, I’d be ok. But knowing it will keep going and going is so torturous. Now just a hint of the offensive noise triggers anxiety. I agree that stress or being over tired definitely compound it too. Being so frustrated over sounds - that are not considered socially accepted annoyances - really does take its toll. I have become a more agitated person than I want to be. And I know this is from years of suppressing so much frustration over something that no one could help me with. Without this problem, I believe I’d be more easy going and relaxed. I try really hard to compensate for it and be more tolerant in everyday life, but in my head the sounds can so easily overtake my sense of what’s rational. And the battle to not lash out can be mentally exhausting. Since I was a kid, I thought I had a problem with no solution, one that no one else believed or understood. I do feel relieved to know that I’m not alone in struggling with this, but I still don’t know how to deal with it? It’s a constant battle every time I hear some one eat, suppressing huge amounts of anger and wanting to scream. I mean how many daggers and evil eyes can I keep shooting at everyone while they eat! I’m 36 & still doing this and feel so immature about these instincts. As you all know, keeping it under control, is a lot of pressure to put on oneself (on top of the frustration that already occurs), and I’ve finally decided to try talking to people about it, instead of further internalizing it. The more people I tell, the more I find out that they too despise these noises, but obviously the difference is they don’t become enraged inside & out. It doesn’t change the way I feel when the noises occur, but it makes me feel less freakish, and helps a bit. Bye for now, Alison ---------------- --- Balch wrote: > Thanks for you note. > > I too recently found this group and have been > really intrigued by the striking similarities some > of us share. Much of what you wrote mirrors my own > experience. I completely understand when you say it > sometimes occurs with certain people in conjunction > with something else they are doing. I had a very > bossy mother who could be quite severe at the dinner > table and I remember the exact moment when I was > about nine or ten when the way she ate began to > infuriate me. I could never say anything about it as > this topic was definitely NOT up for discussion. I > internalized this and it caused me to become very > anxious and I believe detrimentally affected my > school studies. I would be so enraged from having to > sit through dinner that I could not focus on > anything. I was treated for ADD when I was a kid > which was a much more rare diagnosis, I am currently > 37. Not sure which came first in this instance but I > think the one exacerbated the other. I struggle with > it to this day and I agree > it has been devastating to have this affliction. I > get accused of being neurotic, very moody or just > plain mean when all I seek is just some peace and > quiet. > > > > bugfuzz2001 wrote: > I can't believe there are people who have > experienced the exact same > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just > part of being an > anxious type of person. My problems started when I > was about ten, > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose > sniffing has been my > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain > people would > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go > back to feeling > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed > it, and then > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt > so guilty about > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset > about noises > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't > be considerate > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over > the years, I have > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the > noises don't > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal > with the stress > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I > know. I also > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my > teeth when I > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more > when I am more > stressed out. I have also determined that the people > who bother me > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing > something else > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I > may feel that I > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add > insult to injury, > that person has to keep sniffing their nose > annoyingly. Often, I > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was > made to feel like > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my > sensitivity to > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and > quiet. I can only > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get > away. I wonder > what it would be like if I had never had a problem > with sound > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me > to have social > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that > becoming aware of > something you never noticed before can be > devestating. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi there, same goes for me - I'm a new member & was completely shocked to find other people with such similar experiences. My main frustration is with eating noises, and I know what you mean about sniffing, it’s brutal too. For me, I think it’s the repetition of these sounds. I fixate completely on them, and can’t find a way to escape or drown them out. If I knew for sure that it would stop after a few sniffs, gum smacks or crunches, I’d be ok. But knowing it will keep going and going is so torturous. Now just a hint of the offensive noise triggers anxiety. I agree that stress or being over tired definitely compound it too. Being so frustrated over sounds - that are not considered socially accepted annoyances - really does take its toll. I have become a more agitated person than I want to be. And I know this is from years of suppressing so much frustration over something that no one could help me with. Without this problem, I believe I’d be more easy going and relaxed. I try really hard to compensate for it and be more tolerant in everyday life, but in my head the sounds can so easily overtake my sense of what’s rational. And the battle to not lash out can be mentally exhausting. Since I was a kid, I thought I had a problem with no solution, one that no one else believed or understood. I do feel relieved to know that I’m not alone in struggling with this, but I still don’t know how to deal with it? It’s a constant battle every time I hear some one eat, suppressing huge amounts of anger and wanting to scream. I mean how many daggers and evil eyes can I keep shooting at everyone while they eat! I’m 36 & still doing this and feel so immature about these instincts. As you all know, keeping it under control, is a lot of pressure to put on oneself (on top of the frustration that already occurs), and I’ve finally decided to try talking to people about it, instead of further internalizing it. The more people I tell, the more I find out that they too despise these noises, but obviously the difference is they don’t become enraged inside & out. It doesn’t change the way I feel when the noises occur, but it makes me feel less freakish, and helps a bit. Bye for now, Alison ---------------- --- Balch wrote: > Thanks for you note. > > I too recently found this group and have been > really intrigued by the striking similarities some > of us share. Much of what you wrote mirrors my own > experience. I completely understand when you say it > sometimes occurs with certain people in conjunction > with something else they are doing. I had a very > bossy mother who could be quite severe at the dinner > table and I remember the exact moment when I was > about nine or ten when the way she ate began to > infuriate me. I could never say anything about it as > this topic was definitely NOT up for discussion. I > internalized this and it caused me to become very > anxious and I believe detrimentally affected my > school studies. I would be so enraged from having to > sit through dinner that I could not focus on > anything. I was treated for ADD when I was a kid > which was a much more rare diagnosis, I am currently > 37. Not sure which came first in this instance but I > think the one exacerbated the other. I struggle with > it to this day and I agree > it has been devastating to have this affliction. I > get accused of being neurotic, very moody or just > plain mean when all I seek is just some peace and > quiet. > > > > bugfuzz2001 wrote: > I can't believe there are people who have > experienced the exact same > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just > part of being an > anxious type of person. My problems started when I > was about ten, > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose > sniffing has been my > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain > people would > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go > back to feeling > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed > it, and then > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt > so guilty about > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset > about noises > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't > be considerate > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over > the years, I have > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the > noises don't > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal > with the stress > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I > know. I also > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my > teeth when I > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more > when I am more > stressed out. I have also determined that the people > who bother me > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing > something else > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I > may feel that I > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add > insult to injury, > that person has to keep sniffing their nose > annoyingly. Often, I > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was > made to feel like > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my > sensitivity to > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and > quiet. I can only > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get > away. I wonder > what it would be like if I had never had a problem > with sound > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me > to have social > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that > becoming aware of > something you never noticed before can be > devestating. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 It seems the common thread here is that while these sounds do annoy almost anyone and everyone at some point there is a certain OCD component - being fixated, and anger or rage attached to it, 4S. I went looking on the internet having NO idea 4S was a diagnosis and that this chat group could possibly even exist. I must admit I am a bit desperate because I recently got engaged to a wonderful person who I really love. Several months ago she moved in and I am beginning to have serious anxiety around her mouth noises, eating, drinking and even talking, I am completely fixated. I'm feeling anxious now being around her yet I completely adore her - very odd sensation. We have discussed this issue and she is aware and understanding. She tries not to make sounds which offend me. It doesn't matter that she knows and makes adjustments the problem still exists regardless. How many times can one say, 'stop doing that, it annoys me'. I feel like a jerk. I don't want to wear earplugs around her because I personally think this is rude and I want to hear everything she is saying. Does anyone have any advice? Also wanted to find out if anyone has taken part in the program with the ear devices that Marsha uses in her treatment and what results you may have? -Ralison m wrote: Hi there, same goes for me - I'm a new member & wascompletely shocked to find other people with suchsimilar experiences. My main frustration is witheating noises, and I know what you mean aboutsniffing, it’s brutal too. For me, I think it’s the repetition of these sounds. Ifixate completely on them, and can’t find a way toescape or drown them out. If I knew for sure that itwould stop after a few sniffs, gum smacks or crunches,I’d be ok. But knowing it will keep going and goingis so torturous. Now just a hint of the offensivenoise triggers anxiety. I agree that stress or beingover tired definitely compound it too. Being so frustrated over sounds - that are notconsidered socially accepted annoyances - really doestake its toll. I have become a more agitated personthan I want to be. And I know this is from years ofsuppressing so much frustration over something that noone could help me with.Without this problem, I believe I’d be more easy goingand relaxed. I try really hard to compensate for itand be more tolerant in everyday life, but in my headthe sounds can so easily overtake my sense of what’srational. And the battle to not lash out can bementally exhausting. Since I was a kid, I thought I had a problem with nosolution, one that no one else believed or understood.I do feel relieved to know that I’m not alone instruggling with this, but I still don’t know how todeal with it? It’s a constant battle every time I hearsome one eat, suppressing huge amounts of anger andwanting to scream.I mean how many daggers and evil eyes can I keepshooting at everyone while they eat! I’m 36 & stilldoing this and feel so immature about these instincts.As you all know, keeping it under control, is a lot ofpressure to put on oneself (on top of the frustrationthat already occurs), and I’ve finally decided to trytalking to people about it, instead of furtherinternalizing it. The more people I tell, the more I find out that theytoo despise these noises, but obviously the differenceis they don’t become enraged inside & out. It doesn’tchange the way I feel when the noises occur, but itmakes me feel less freakish, and helps a bit. Bye for now, Alison------------------- Balch <russell.balchsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:> Thanks for you note.> > I too recently found this group and have been> really intrigued by the striking similarities some> of us share. Much of what you wrote mirrors my own> experience. I completely understand when you say it> sometimes occurs with certain people in conjunction> with something else they are doing. I had a very> bossy mother who could be quite severe at the dinner> table and I remember the exact moment when I was> about nine or ten when the way she ate began to> infuriate me. I could never say anything about it as> this topic was definitely NOT up for discussion. I> internalized this and it caused me to become very> anxious and I believe detrimentally affected my> school studies. I would be so enraged from having to> sit through dinner that I could not focus on> anything. I was treated for ADD when I was a kid> which was a much more rare diagnosis, I am currently> 37. Not sure which came first in this instance but I> think the one exacerbated the other. I struggle with> it to this day and I agree> it has been devastating to have this affliction. I> get accused of being neurotic, very moody or just> plain mean when all I seek is just some peace and> quiet.> > > > bugfuzz2001 <bugfuzz2001> wrote:> I can't believe there are people who have> experienced the exact same > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just> part of being an > anxious type of person. My problems started when I> was about ten, > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose> sniffing has been my > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain> people would > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go> back to feeling > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed> it, and then > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt> so guilty about > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset> about noises > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't> be considerate > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over> the years, I have > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the> noises don't > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal> with the stress > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I> know. I also > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my> teeth when I > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more> when I am more > stressed out. I have also determined that the people> who bother me > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing> something else > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I> may feel that I > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add> insult to injury, > that person has to keep sniffing their nose> annoyingly. Often, I > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was> made to feel like > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my> sensitivity to > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and> quiet. I can only > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get> away. I wonder > what it would be like if I had never had a problem> with sound > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me> to have social > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that> becoming aware of > something you never noticed before can be> devestating. > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thanks everyone for your replies. I have decided that 4S is a type of OCD. I remember when I first started having major problems with it, my mom was asking me what was making me so angry, and I told her in all honesty that when certain people sniff their noses it makes me feel like something bad is going to happen to me.-That's the part of it that sounds like OCD. She told me that it sounded crazy, and I don't think she really believed that was the reason I acted like I did. That sounds bad about my mom, but she really is a wonderful mother and the way she dealt with that seems bizarre to me even now. I think it was then that I realized I was on my own with this thing. I never bring it up and no one else does either. It's like taboo or something. The way I cope with it is reminding myself that it is just an annoying sound and even though it feels bad, it is not intended to do me any harm. Also, I have faith in God and know that He is in control no matter what happens and His intentions are always the best. Don't get me wrong though, I still have times when I just don't want to put up with the noises. Another way I cope is the same way people cope with stress in general. I exercise regularly, try to take as much time for myself as I need, look for things to do that are enjoyable, all in all, I just make the best of it! I am often amazed at how well I can cope with things that life throws at me. Just when I think I can't take it anymore, I find a way. To R, the guy who recently got engaged, stop worrying. I don't sleep in the same room with my husband and I tell him to shut his mouth and stop breathing all loud and be still, etc. But I put up with a lot of weird stuff he does too. That's what marriage is all about. LOL. Earplugs have never helped me. Being an adult now and having more control over who I'm around and what I do has helped. I guess, with me, a lot of it is about control. I have also just started listening to a hypnosis mp3 for noise sensitivity. That is actually how I found this group. I found the Mp3 and then I did a web search for noise sensitivity. I think you have to listen to it daily for about a month or so. I will let you know if it helps me. > > I can't believe there are people who have > > experienced the exact same > > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just > > part of being an > > anxious type of person. My problems started when I > > was about ten, > > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose > > sniffing has been my > > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain > > people would > > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go > > back to feeling > > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed > > it, and then > > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt > > so guilty about > > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset > > about noises > > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't > > be considerate > > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over > > the years, I have > > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the > > noises don't > > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal > > with the stress > > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I > > know. I also > > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my > > teeth when I > > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more > > when I am more > > stressed out. I have also determined that the people > > who bother me > > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing > > something else > > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I > > may feel that I > > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add > > insult to injury, > > that person has to keep sniffing their nose > > annoyingly. Often, I > > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was > > made to feel like > > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my > > sensitivity to > > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and > > quiet. I can only > > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get > > away. I wonder > > what it would be like if I had never had a problem > > with sound > > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me > > to have social > > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that > > becoming aware of > > something you never noticed before can be > > devestating. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 I love this part: " A women who doesn't understand the problem > would think we are crazy. Where as a man might just think the women> is being strange like many other times. " I have used this idea myself when a man's strange behavior has left me questioning myself. I ask myself what I did wrong, and have identified any possible wrong doing and changed that. Finally, when I get to the point where I am sure that absolutely nothing I am doing could have caused the reaction, I can rest with the knowledge that he is experiencing PMS. Men can be just as moody and irrational as women. I have spent a lot of time analysing the behavior of men in my life. Everyone is irrational from time to time. I think that pretty much anybody who doesn't understand the problem would think we're crazy/odd. I really thought your comment was funny, because I spend a lot of time perceiving men the way you perceive women. > > > > I can't believe there are people who have > > > > experienced the exact same > > > > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just > > > > part of being an > > > > anxious type of person. My problems started when I > > > > was about ten, > > > > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose > > > > sniffing has been my > > > > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain > > > > people would > > > > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go > > > > back to feeling > > > > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed > > > > it, and then > > > > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt > > > > so guilty about > > > > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset > > > > about noises > > > > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't > > > > be considerate > > > > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over > > > > the years, I have > > > > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the > > > > noises don't > > > > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal > > > > with the stress > > > > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I > > > > know. I also > > > > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my > > > > teeth when I > > > > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more > > > > when I am more > > > > stressed out. I have also determined that the people > > > > who bother me > > > > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing > > > > something else > > > > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I > > > > may feel that I > > > > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add > > > > insult to injury, > > > > that person has to keep sniffing their nose > > > > annoyingly. Often, I > > > > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was > > > > made to feel like > > > > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my > > > > sensitivity to > > > > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and > > > > quiet. I can only > > > > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get > > > > away. I wonder > > > > what it would be like if I had never had a problem > > > > with sound > > > > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me > > > > to have social > > > > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that > > > > becoming aware of > > > > something you never noticed before can be > > > > devestating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Perhaps this may sound trite but the fact that we struggle with this, that anyone has to struggle in general, produces a more thoughtful, understanding person. Sort of like an oyster who when irritated by a grain of sand produces a pearl. Thanks for all of your 'pearls of wisdom'. -R bugfuzz2001 wrote: I love this part:"A women who doesn't understand the problem> would think we are crazy. Where as a man might just think the women> is being strange like many other times." I have used this idea myself when a man's strange behavior has left me questioning myself. I ask myself what I did wrong, and have identified any possible wrong doing and changed that. Finally, when I get to the point where I am sure that absolutely nothing I am doing could have caused the reaction, I can rest with the knowledge that he is experiencing PMS. Men can be just as moody and irrational as women. I have spent a lot of time analysing the behavior of men in my life. Everyone is irrational from time to time. I think that pretty much anybody who doesn't understand the problem would think we're crazy/odd. I really thought your comment was funny, because I spend a lot of time perceiving men the way you perceive women. > > > > I can't believe there are people who have> > > > experienced the exact same > > > > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just> > > > part of being an > > > > anxious type of person. My problems started when I> > > > was about ten, > > > > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose> > > > sniffing has been my > > > > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain> > > > people would > > > > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go> > > > back to feeling > > > > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed> > > > it, and then > > > > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt> > > > so guilty about > > > > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset> > > > about noises > > > > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't> > > > be considerate > > > > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over> > > > the years, I have > > > > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the> > > > noises don't > > > > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal> > > > with the stress > > > > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I> > > > know. I also > > > > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my> > > > teeth when I > > > > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more> > > > when I am more > > > > stressed out. I have also determined that the people> > > > who bother me > > > > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing> > > > something else > > > > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I> > > > may feel that I > > > > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add> > > > insult to injury, > > > > that person has to keep sniffing their nose> > > > annoyingly. Often, I > > > > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was> > > > made to feel like > > > > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my> > > > sensitivity to > > > > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and> > > > quiet. I can only > > > > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get> > > > away. I wonder > > > > what it would be like if I had never had a problem> > > > with sound > > > > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me> > > > to have social > > > > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that> > > > becoming aware of > > > > something you never noticed before can be> > > > devestating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 When I wrote my thing about women I was painting with a very broad brush. I just really think it is easier for a woman to come out of the closet with 4S than it is for a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I couldn't have said it better myself, . > > > > > I can't believe there are people who have > > > > > experienced the exact same > > > > > symptoms that I have. I thought that this was just > > > > > part of being an > > > > > anxious type of person. My problems started when I > > > > > was about ten, > > > > > but I can remember some trouble earlier. Nose > > > > > sniffing has been my > > > > > most dreaded sound. I used to think that if certain > > > > > people would > > > > > just stop sniffing their nose so much, I could go > > > > > back to feeling > > > > > normal again. I don't understand how I never noticed > > > > > it, and then > > > > > one day it just became such a big deal. I have felt > > > > > so guilty about > > > > > it too. I've hurt people by becoming angry and upset > > > > > about noises > > > > > they make, but I was hurting because they wouldn't > > > > > be considerate > > > > > enough to stop making those noises around me. Over > > > > > the years, I have > > > > > learned to cover up my feelings and sometimes the > > > > > noises don't > > > > > bother me as much as they used to, but I still deal > > > > > with the stress > > > > > on the inside. It probably affects me more than I > > > > > know. I also > > > > > developed social anxiety disorder, and I grind my > > > > > teeth when I > > > > > sleep. It seems like I am bothered by noises more > > > > > when I am more > > > > > stressed out. I have also determined that the people > > > > > who bother me > > > > > by making the noises are mostly people who are doing > > > > > something else > > > > > to me that I can't do anything about. For example, I > > > > > may feel that I > > > > > am being treated unfairly by someone, and to add > > > > > insult to injury, > > > > > that person has to keep sniffing their nose > > > > > annoyingly. Often, I > > > > > feel angry and violated. When I was a child, I was > > > > > made to feel like > > > > > I was ruining everybody else's life because of my > > > > > sensitivity to > > > > > sounds. All I wanted was a few hours of peace and > > > > > quiet. I can only > > > > > deal with it for so long and then I just have to get > > > > > away. I wonder > > > > > what it would be like if I had never had a problem > > > > > with sound > > > > > sensitivity. I also wonder if it somehow caused me > > > > > to have social > > > > > anxiety disorder. One thing I know is true is that > > > > > becoming aware of > > > > > something you never noticed before can be > > > > > devestating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I'm going to have to find out what AIT is as I'm not familiar with it yet. As far as my hearing being tested, it has been many years, but I distinctly remember being told as a child that my hearing was extremely good and outside of the normal range. I'll have to look into having it checked again. It has never occurred to me that my irritation with sounds could be linked to hearing. I always assumed I was just totally loopy. > > > > I can't believe I'm not alone. > > > > I've suffered with a hypersensitivity to sounds related to eating and > > drinking for the past 25 years, beginning at age 8. I hesitate to > > list them because I've noticed while reading some other posts that I > > feel anxious when I see the sounds in writing. > > > > I have a strong dislike for repetitive noises. My former therapist > > regularly allowed me to take his wall clock down and remove the > > batteries at the beginning of each of our sessions because I he knew > > how much it bothered me to hear the ticking. I cannot wear a watch if > > it has an audible tick and I cannot be around people with pacemakers > > because I can hear them tick, too. > > > > I seem to be able to hear sounds that other people cannot. I can > > identify which of the black ceiling globes in the department stores > > actually house a security camera by the ear-piercing sound that I > > hear when I pass under them. > > > > I can't stand to be anywhere near chewing gum, and to see or hear gum > > popping causes me to feel incredibly angry. This also happens when > > people click their pens, type on their keyboards or click their > > mouse. > > > > I only go to the movies when I know everyone else has already seen > > the showing and the theatre with be empty. If someone is eating > > popcorn, I will have to leave. Although I am now sober, I did notice > > that alcohol successfully numbed my sensitivity to noise. This > > knowledge may have partially contributed to my overindulgence and > > eventual substance abuse. > > > > I have just contacted the New England Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Clinic > > in hopes that they will have a solution for me. The treatment seems > > quite costly. Has anyone undergone TRT and had success? I've set up > > an appointment for initial testing and consultation, but I'm not even > > certain that they can treat what I have. I would appreciate any > > advice on taking my first step towards recovery from this. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 There are a variety of methods out there in terms of AIT, Tomatis is the original method, Berard developed a device to deliver it quicker with less commitment (I used this version with my son to sort out his sensory issues at 6 with huge gains), there is also “The listening programme” you can do at home, then there is samonas another sound therapy. You will find them on the web to read up on them nikki Re: New Member I'm going to have to find out what AIT is as I'm not familiar with it yet. As far as my hearing being tested, it has been many years, but I distinctly remember being told as a child that my hearing was extremely good and outside of the normal range. I'll have to look into having it checked again. It has never occurred to me that my irritation with sounds could be linked to hearing. I always assumed I was just totally loopy. > > > > I can't believe I'm not alone. > > > > I've suffered with a hypersensitivity to sounds related to eating and > > drinking for the past 25 years, beginning at age 8. I hesitate to > > list them because I've noticed while reading some other posts that I > > feel anxious when I see the sounds in writing. > > > > I have a strong dislike for repetitive noises. My former therapist > > regularly allowed me to take his wall clock down and remove the > > batteries at the beginning of each of our sessions because I he knew > > how much it bothered me to hear the ticking. I cannot wear a watch if > > it has an audible tick and I cannot be around people with pacemakers > > because I can hear them tick, too. > > > > I seem to be able to hear sounds that other people cannot. I can > > identify which of the black ceiling globes in the department stores > > actually house a security camera by the ear-piercing sound that I > > hear when I pass under them. > > > > I can't stand to be anywhere near chewing gum, and to see or hear gum > > popping causes me to feel incredibly angry. This also happens when > > people click their pens, type on their keyboards or click their > > mouse. > > > > I only go to the movies when I know everyone else has already seen > > the showing and the theatre with be empty. If someone is eating > > popcorn, I will have to leave. Although I am now sober, I did notice > > that alcohol successfully numbed my sensitivity to noise. This > > knowledge may have partially contributed to my overindulgence and > > eventual substance abuse. > > > > I have just contacted the New England Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Clinic > > in hopes that they will have a solution for me. The treatment seems > > quite costly. Has anyone undergone TRT and had success? I've set up > > an appointment for initial testing and consultation, but I'm not even > > certain that they can treat what I have. I would appreciate any > > advice on taking my first step towards recovery from this. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 We did the Berard method. It didn't help at all with my daughter's 4s symptoms. She has the typical chewing, lipsmacking, etc. sensitivities. -----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of Nikki RiggsSent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:40 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: RE: Re: New Member There are a variety of methods out there in terms of AIT, Tomatis is the original method, Berard developed a device to deliver it quicker with less commitment (I used this version with my son to sort out his sensory issues at 6 with huge gains), there is also "The listening programme" you can do at home, then there is samonas another sound therapy. You will find them on the web to read up on them nikki -----Original Message-----From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ]On Behalf Of dmichelleh73Sent: 08 July 2007 02:56To: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: New Member I'm going to have to find out what AIT is as I'm not familiar with it yet. As far as my hearing being tested, it has been many years, but I distinctly remember being told as a child that my hearing was extremely good and outside of the normal range. I'll have to look into having it checked again.It has never occurred to me that my irritation with sounds could be linked to hearing. I always assumed I was just totally loopy.> >> > I can't believe I'm not alone.> > > > I've suffered with a hypersensitivity to sounds related to eating and > > drinking for the past 25 years, beginning at age 8. I hesitate to > > list them because I've noticed while reading some other posts that I > > feel anxious when I see the sounds in writing. > > > > I have a strong dislike for repetitive noises. My former therapist > > regularly allowed me to take his wall clock down and remove the > > batteries at the beginning of each of our sessions because I he knew > > how much it bothered me to hear the ticking. I cannot wear a watch if > > it has an audible tick and I cannot be around people with pacemakers > > because I can hear them tick, too.> > > > I seem to be able to hear sounds that other people cannot. I can > > identify which of the black ceiling globes in the department stores > > actually house a security camera by the ear-piercing sound that I > > hear when I pass under them.> > > > I can't stand to be anywhere near chewing gum, and to see or hear gum > > popping causes me to feel incredibly angry. This also happens when > > people click their pens, type on their keyboards or click their > > mouse. > > > > I only go to the movies when I know everyone else has already seen > > the showing and the theatre with be empty. If someone is eating > > popcorn, I will have to leave. Although I am now sober, I did notice > > that alcohol successfully numbed my sensitivity to noise. This > > knowledge may have partially contributed to my overindulgence and > > eventual substance abuse.> > > > I have just contacted the New England Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Clinic > > in hopes that they will have a solution for me. The treatment seems > > quite costly. Has anyone undergone TRT and had success? I've set up > > an appointment for initial testing and consultation, but I'm not even > > certain that they can treat what I have. I would appreciate any > > advice on taking my first step towards recovery from this.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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