Leaky Gut

November 13, 2006

This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been discussing similar things:

Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm not

sure if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high

doses of CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do

DMSO enemas? Doesn't it burn like mad?

November 14, 2006

Well, i don't know if it is because I am taking the DMSO anally as opposed to orally or topically, but smell has just not been a problem. After reading this I got paranoid and went over to my Mother's and also ran into a neighbor and neither said that they could smell anything unusal on me. Hope that is true.... NikkiGarnet wrote: Marcus wrote:> yes, DMSO smells (like> rotten eggs). It is because of the sulfur, no way

around it, except to> use MSM instead.Not true! Chlorophyll tabs take care of the odor problem quite nicely and they are good for you!I take one or two 50 mg tabs. KAL brand is inexpensive and chewable.Garnet

November 14, 2006

According to the Altman Study cs does not kill off the good flora in the intestines....debbieGarnet wrote: Dirk Coetsee wrote:> > > Hi Garnet,> > Thanks for the info. I thought CS had a systemic effect: even without > DMSO? I know somebody who consumed it orally for a toe fungal infection > with success.If it does then it would induce Candida and other organisms to over grow because it would kill off all your normal gut flora,

the probiotics.Can not explain the results with the toe fungal infection.> > I take EM which I think is the best liquid probiotic (www.eminfo.info > <http://www.eminfo.info>)Just the basic probiotics in high counts, all species, so that you are covering all areas of the gut. Different species live in different locations.> > I always actually considered urine therapy after reading about it on > curezone, but never had the guts to try. At the time I was also on some > bad meds and decided that drinking my own urine might be a bad thing.You can always do just the UT retention enemas.> > Are you really sure it will help? I mean, you can understand it's not > something I'd try lightly!!!Yes. And really it's not so bad, once you get the hang of it. It is sterile and your diet affects odor and flavor.

Morning U is more concentrated than latter in the day. Again enemas are a good way to go.> > Then again, I don't even know that it's Candida that's causing my leaky > gut. My first doctor thought it was parasites. I know Diflucan never > cleared it.Diflucan does not work on most severe Candida over growth. Parasites are not generally the cause of leaky gut. It is usually the hyphae or roots of the Candida. It is a fungus.Garnet> > On 11/14/06, *Garnet* <garnetridgegranitepoint (DOT) net > <mailto:garnetridgegranitepoint (DOT) net>> wrote:> > The problem with CS for Leaky Gut that is secondary to Candida> Overgrowth is the CS does not reach the lower gut areas where the> Candida grows. That is also the problem with most supplements

intended> to affect the growth of Candida.> > Urine, oral and by enema does reach these areas. It is important to> take> high count probiotics, the liquid kind that is kept in the fridge at> the> health food stores. Yogurt and even capsules cannot touch the counts in> these liquids. They also have more species of beneficial organisms.> > Taking fructooligosaccharides, found in water soluble fiber and> supplement form is important to feed the probiotics.> > DMSO orally should only be consumed on an empty stomach or nausea will> follow. I have not used it as an enema but would probably try 30%> initially and work up if that is comfortable. I do not find that it> burns the mucous membranes in my mouth so I would not think it would> burn as an enema in low concentrations.> > I am always amazed that people think their skin is full of

impurities> that might be carried in by DMSO. What is it that could be on your> skin?> And why not just wash the area and stop obsessing. To me it sounds like> FUD perpetuated by Big Pharma.> > Keep in mind that it ONLY transports molecules of 1000 daltons or less.> That is a very limited size of molecule that many substances> surpass. It> can not therefore carry in a bacteria, a virus, dirt and many other of> the so called impurities that people might be concerned about.> > As far as the purity of DMSO, I have only heard these concerns from> those selling what they claim is more pure. Can you say conflict of> interest?> > Garnet> > Shirley Armintrout, Moon Eng wrote:>>>>>> >> >>> > This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been>> discussing>> > similar things:>> >>> > Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm>> not sure>> > if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high>> doses of>> > CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do DMSO>> enemas?>> > Doesn't it burn like mad?>> >>>>> Many supplements, such as l-glutamine, in particular, are>> recommended by alternative practitioners. DMSO, IV, and oral, was>>

administered to me in a complex situation that included leaky gut.>> An M.D. has also suggested that I could experiment with applying>> DMSO on the skin above the areas involved. The burning is partially>> related to the concentration of DMSO. Labs sells pure DMSO at>> 50 and 70% concentrations. You can dilute it further to determine>> what potency is best for you. Dr. feels that much of the DMSO>> available is not pure enough, and that that's particularly important>> for DMSO because it penetrates body tissues carrying along with it>> positive ingredients you may have wanted internally, using DMSO as a>> carrier, as well as impurities that may be on your skin or in the>> DMSO. I don't know about DMSO enemas, but DMSO is being used for>> institial cystitis.>>>>> > >

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November 14, 2006

Dirk if you are not going to a dr. to get tested for foods that you are allergic too....do you know how to muscle test or dows?....debbie....and yes it all worked I can eat anything now....Dirk Coetsee wrote: Did that all work?I really have tried a lot. I can't go on long term Diflucan and Nystatin though. Too expensive. I think that psyllium (and maybe bentonite) is a good idea. I can't avoid trigger foods though. All foods are trigger foods. On 11/14/06, Deborah Gerard < devorahg99> wrote: Hi Dirk....I went thru that nightmare several years ago and overcame it...it is candida..I had all my mercury fillings taken out to begin with, destressed my life, started taking valerian root or passion flower to calm me down. Doc put me on two antifungals...Zyflufcan and Nystatin one is systemic the other aims right for the gut to kill off the yeast...I was also tested to see what I had been eating that causes the bowels to react...got a list and stayed away from all those foods...I also started taking psyillium husks and slippery elm to sooth the intestinal walls that are so inflamed....no junk food, no pop, filtered

water only....get some good probiotics going in you as well...and yes I did retention enemas with the cs too....I also put a heating pad on my stomach as much as possible it seems to help with the healing process...that should start you off if you have further questions or comments...email me privately I will be more than happy to help someone thru this awful disease....debbieDirk Coetsee <dirk.coetseegmail > wrote: This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been discussing similar things:Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm not sure if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high doses of CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do DMSO enemas? Doesn't it burn like mad? __________________________________________________

November 14, 2006

Garnet have you tried H202 therapy?...debbieDirk Coetsee wrote: Hi Garnet,Thanks for the info. I thought CS had a systemic effect: even without DMSO? I know somebody who consumed it orally for a toe fungal infection with success.I take EM which I think is the best liquid probiotic (www.eminfo.info)I always actually considered urine therapy after reading about it on curezone, but never had the guts to try. At the time I was also on some bad

meds and decided that drinking my own urine might be a bad thing.Are you really sure it will help? I mean, you can understand it's not something I'd try lightly!!!Then again, I don't even know that it's Candida that's causing my leaky gut. My first doctor thought it was parasites. I know Diflucan never cleared it. On 11/14/06, Garnet <garnetridgegranitepoint (DOT) net> wrote: The problem with CS for Leaky Gut that is secondary to Candida Overgrowth is the CS does not reach the lower gut areas where the Candida grows. That is also the problem with most supplements intended to affect the growth of Candida.Urine, oral and by enema does reach these

areas. It is important to take high count probiotics, the liquid kind that is kept in the fridge at the health food stores. Yogurt and even capsules cannot touch the counts in these liquids. They also have more species of beneficial organisms.Taking fructooligosaccharides, found in water soluble fiber and supplement form is important to feed the probiotics.DMSO orally should only be consumed on an empty stomach or nausea will follow. I have not used it as an enema but would probably try 30% initially and work up if that is comfortable. I do not find that it burns the mucous membranes in my mouth so I would not think it would burn as an enema in low concentrations.I am always amazed that people think their skin is full of impurities that might be carried in by DMSO. What is it that could be on your skin? And why not just wash the area and stop obsessing. To me it sounds like FUD perpetuated by Big

Pharma.Keep in mind that it ONLY transports molecules of 1000 daltons or less. That is a very limited size of molecule that many substances surpass. It can not therefore carry in a bacteria, a virus, dirt and many other of the so called impurities that people might be concerned about.As far as the purity of DMSO, I have only heard these concerns from those selling what they claim is more pure. Can you say conflict of interest?GarnetShirley Armintrout, Moon Eng wrote:> > > > >> > This is slightly off

topic, but it's just because we've been> discussing> > similar things:> >> > Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm> not sure> > if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high> doses of> > CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do DMSO> enemas?> > Doesn't it burn like mad?> >> > Many supplements, such as l-glutamine, in particular, are> recommended by alternative practitioners. DMSO, IV, and oral, was> administered to me in a complex situation that included leaky gut.> An M.D. has also suggested that I could experiment with applying> DMSO on the skin above the areas involved. The burning is partially> related to the concentration of DMSO. Labs sells pure DMSO at> 50 and 70% concentrations. You can dilute it further to determine> what potency

is best for you. Dr. feels that much of the DMSO> available is not pure enough, and that that's particularly important> for DMSO because it penetrates body tissues carrying along with it> positive ingredients you may have wanted internally, using DMSO as a> carrier, as well as impurities that may be on your skin or in the> DMSO. I don't know about DMSO enemas, but DMSO is being used for> institial cystitis.> > __________________________________________________

November 14, 2006

Lucky you. Maybe when my insurance kicks in again I can get a long course of Diflucan if I can find a sympathetic doctor.On 11/15/06, Deborah Gerard <

devorahg99@...> wrote:

Dirk

if you are not going to a dr. to get tested for foods that you are

allergic too....do you know how to muscle test or

dows?....debbie....and yes it all worked I can eat anything now....Dirk Coetsee <dirk.coetsee@

gmail.com> wrote: Did that all work?I really have tried a lot. I can't go on long term Diflucan and Nystatin though. Too expensive. I think that psyllium (and maybe bentonite) is a good idea. I can't avoid trigger foods though. All foods are trigger foods. On 11/14/06, Deborah Gerard

wrote:

Hi

Dirk....I went thru that nightmare several years ago and overcame

it...it is candida..I had all my mercury fillings taken out to begin

with, destressed my life, started taking valerian root or passion

flower to calm me down. Doc put me on two antifungals...Zyflufcan

and Nystatin one is systemic the other aims right for the gut to kill

off the yeast...I was also tested to see what I had been eating that

causes the bowels to react...got a list and stayed away from all those

foods...I also started taking psyillium husks and slippery elm to sooth

the intestinal walls that are so inflamed....no junk food, no pop,

filtered water only....get some good probiotics going in you as

well...and yes I did retention enemas with the cs too....I also put a

heating pad on my stomach as much as possible it seems to help with the

healing process...that should start you off if you have further

questions or comments...email me privately I will be more than happy to

help someone thru this awful disease....debbieDirk Coetsee <dirk.coetseegmail >

wrote: This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been discussing similar things:Does

anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm not sure

if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high

doses of CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do

DMSO enemas? Doesn't it burn like mad? __________________________________________________

November 14, 2006

I don't know. I know a guy who makes the stuff (not simple 9V batter

stuff... he makes a real quality product) and he says it DOES and he

can notice. When he gave me his CS he said to make sure to take

probiotics with it. I never tried it though.

According to the Altman Study cs does not kill off the good flora in the intestines....debbieGarnet <garnetridge@...

> wrote: Dirk Coetsee wrote:> > > Hi Garnet,

> > Thanks for the info. I thought CS had a systemic effect: even without > DMSO? I know somebody who consumed it orally for a toe fungal infection > with success.If it does then it would induce Candida and other organisms to over grow because it would kill off all your normal gut flora,

the probiotics.Can not explain the results with the toe fungal infection.> > I take EM which I think is the best liquid probiotic (www.eminfo.info > <

http://www.eminfo.info>)Just the basic probiotics in high counts, all species, so that you are covering all areas of the gut. Different species live in different locations.> > I always actually considered urine therapy after reading about it on > curezone, but never had the guts to try. At the time I was also on some > bad meds and decided that drinking my own urine might be a bad thing.

You can always do just the UT retention enemas.> > Are you really sure it will help? I mean, you can understand it's not > something I'd try lightly!!!Yes. And really it's not so bad, once you get the hang of it. It is sterile and your diet affects odor and flavor.

Morning U is more concentrated than latter in the day. Again enemas are a good way to go.> > Then again, I don't even know that it's Candida that's causing my leaky > gut. My first doctor thought it was parasites. I know Diflucan never > cleared it.Diflucan does not work on most severe Candida over growth. Parasites are not generally the cause of leaky gut. It is usually the hyphae or roots of the Candida. It is a fungus.Garnet

> > On 11/14/06, *Garnet* <garnetridge@... > <mailto:

garnetridge@...>> wrote:> > The problem with CS for Leaky Gut that is secondary to Candida> Overgrowth is the CS does not reach the lower gut areas where the> Candida grows. That is also the problem with most supplements

intended> to affect the growth of Candida.> > Urine, oral and by enema does reach these areas. It is important to> take> high count probiotics, the liquid kind that is kept in the fridge at

> the> health food stores. Yogurt and even capsules cannot touch the counts in> these liquids. They also have more species of beneficial organisms.> > Taking fructooligosaccharides, found in water soluble fiber and

> supplement form is important to feed the probiotics.> > DMSO orally should only be consumed on an empty stomach or nausea will> follow. I have not used it as an enema but would probably try 30%

> initially and work up if that is comfortable. I do not find that it> burns the mucous membranes in my mouth so I would not think it would> burn as an enema in low concentrations.> > I am always amazed that people think their skin is full of

impurities> that might be carried in by DMSO. What is it that could be on your> skin?> And why not just wash the area and stop obsessing. To me it sounds like> FUD perpetuated by Big Pharma.

> > Keep in mind that it ONLY transports molecules of 1000 daltons or less.> That is a very limited size of molecule that many substances> surpass. It> can not therefore carry in a bacteria, a virus, dirt and many other of

> the so called impurities that people might be concerned about.> > As far as the purity of DMSO, I have only heard these concerns from> those selling what they claim is more pure. Can you say conflict of

> interest?> > Garnet> > Shirley Armintrout, Moon Eng wrote:>>>>>> >> >>> > This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been>> discussing>> > similar things:>> >

>> > Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm>> not sure>> > if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high>> doses of>> > CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do DMSO

>> enemas?>> > Doesn't it burn like mad?>> >>>>> Many supplements, such as l-glutamine, in particular, are>> recommended by alternative practitioners. DMSO, IV, and oral, was

>>

administered to me in a complex situation that included leaky gut.>> An M.D. has also suggested that I could experiment with applying>> DMSO on the skin above the areas involved. The burning is partially

>> related to the concentration of DMSO. Labs sells pure DMSO at>> 50 and 70% concentrations. You can dilute it further to determine>> what potency is best for you. Dr. feels that much of the DMSO

>> available is not pure enough, and that that's particularly important>> for DMSO because it penetrates body tissues carrying along with it>> positive ingredients you may have wanted internally, using DMSO as a

>> carrier, as well as impurities that may be on your skin or in the>> DMSO. I don't know about DMSO enemas, but DMSO is being used for>> institial cystitis.>>>>>

> >

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November 14, 2006

I had H2O2 IV's. Did nothing for me. (sorry, I know I'm not Garnet ;-)On 11/15/06, Deborah Gerard <devorahg99@...

> wrote:

Garnet have you tried H202 therapy?...debbieDirk Coetsee <dirk.coetseegmail

> wrote: Hi Garnet,Thanks

for the info. I thought CS had a systemic effect: even without DMSO? I

know somebody who consumed it orally for a toe fungal infection with

success.I take EM which I think is the best liquid probiotic (www.eminfo.info)I

always actually considered urine therapy after reading about it on

curezone, but never had the guts to try. At the time I was also on some

bad meds and decided that drinking my own urine might be a bad thing.Are you really sure it will help? I mean, you can understand it's not something I'd try lightly!!!Then

again, I don't even know that it's Candida that's causing my leaky gut.

My first doctor thought it was parasites. I know Diflucan never cleared

it. On 11/14/06, Garnet <garnetridge@...

> wrote: The problem with CS for Leaky Gut that is secondary to Candida Overgrowth is the CS does not reach the lower gut areas where the Candida grows. That is also the problem with most supplements intended to affect the growth of Candida.Urine, oral and by enema does reach these

areas. It is important to take high count probiotics, the liquid kind that is kept in the fridge at the health food stores. Yogurt and even capsules cannot touch the counts in these liquids. They also have more species of beneficial organisms.

Taking fructooligosaccharides, found in water soluble fiber and supplement form is important to feed the probiotics.DMSO orally should only be consumed on an empty stomach or nausea will follow. I have not used it as an enema but would probably try 30% initially and work up if that is comfortable. I do not find that it burns the mucous membranes in my mouth so I would not think it would burn as an enema in low concentrations.I am always amazed that people think their skin is full of impurities that might be carried in by DMSO. What is it that could be on your skin? And why not just wash the area and stop obsessing. To me it sounds like FUD perpetuated by Big

Pharma.Keep in mind that it ONLY transports molecules of 1000 daltons or less. That is a very limited size of molecule that many substances surpass. It can not therefore carry in a bacteria, a virus, dirt and many other of the so called impurities that people might be concerned about.As far as the purity of DMSO, I have only heard these concerns from those selling what they claim is more pure. Can you say conflict of interest?

GarnetShirley Armintrout, Moon Eng wrote:> > > > >> > This is slightly off

topic, but it's just because we've been> discussing> > similar things:> >> > Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating leaky gut? I'm> not sure> > if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking maybe high

> doses of> > CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here actually do DMSO> enemas?> > Doesn't it burn like mad?> >> > Many supplements, such as l-glutamine, in particular, are

> recommended by alternative practitioners. DMSO, IV, and oral, was> administered to me in a complex situation that included leaky gut.> An M.D. has also suggested that I could experiment with applying

> DMSO on the skin above the areas involved. The burning is partially> related to the concentration of DMSO. Labs sells pure DMSO at> 50 and 70% concentrations. You can dilute it further to determine

> what potency

is best for you. Dr. feels that much of the DMSO> available is not pure enough, and that that's particularly important> for DMSO because it penetrates body tissues carrying along with it> positive ingredients you may have wanted internally, using DMSO as a

> carrier, as well as impurities that may be on your skin or in the> DMSO. I don't know about DMSO enemas, but DMSO is being used for> institial cystitis.> >

__________________________________________________

November 15, 2006

> Well, i don't know if it is because I am taking the DMSO anally as

> opposed to orally or topically, but smell has just not been a problem.

> After reading this I got paranoid and went over to my Mother's and also

> ran into a neighbor and neither said that they could smell anything

> unusal on me. Hope that is true....

> Nikki

As Is said - everyone is different. It depends on multiple factors - how

much you take, and one other that I neglected to mention - how well your

body metabolizes it.

November 15, 2006

I have used H2O2 in baths and it feels wonderful to me when I am achy

from over exertion or the flu. I use 6 pints of 3%, or the equivalent

diluted from 35% technical grade. I stay in the soak for at least 25

minutes, at which point I generally break into a fairly heavy sweat for

about ten minutes. I usually stay in there about 45 minutes to get max

benefit, have to add a bit more hot water at some point to keep it from

getting too cold.

One nice benefit is that it is exfoliating. Makes my skin glow nicely. I

do keep it out of my hair as it gradually lightens it if you do them

very often. I have used it on my face for this purpose. In a bath you

can see dead skin that has sloughed off if it has been awhile. I have

also used it to brush my teeth but you MUST rinse well since it is

acidic and can etch the dentin on teeth causing decay eventually.

I have tried the oral dosing schedule but found it difficult to keep up

since it tastes pretty bad and you must do it on an empty stomach. I

guess I was just not highly motivated enough. If I were diagnosed with

Cancer I might be more devoted to it.

It may or may not have helped my arthritis, hard to remember now. This

was a couple years ago. It is suppose to relieve arthritis when you do

frequent soaks.

I am not sure that just two IV treatments would be enough to notice a

difference Dirk. But then I am not that up on the therapy.

I would not do peroxide and DMSO at the same time since peroxide is an

oxidizing agent and DMSO is an antioxidant, it just seems to me that the

two would cancel each other out. I know that with oral peroxide therapy

most people say to take Superoxide Dismutase or other antioxidants to

scrub any oxygen free radicals left over from the peroxide. Again I am

not up on the therapy so not sure when you take the antioxidant. Or

whether it is really known to be necessary. A lot of alt health and

probably traditional health stuff that we do is conjecture or based on

theory, not actual observed fact under controlled conditions. Bodies are

complex and they can be expensive and difficult to study!

Garnet

Dirk Coetsee wrote:

>

> I had H2O2 IV's. Did nothing for me. (sorry, I know I'm not Garnet ;-)

>

> On 11/15/06, *Deborah Gerard* <devorahg99@...

> > wrote:

>

> Garnet have you tried H202 therapy?...debbie

>

> */Dirk Coetsee <dirk.coetsee@... <http://gmail.com>>/* wrote:

>

> Hi Garnet,

>

> Thanks for the info. I thought CS had a systemic effect: even

> without DMSO? I know somebody who consumed it orally for a toe

> fungal infection with success.

>

> I take EM which I think is the best liquid probiotic

> (www.eminfo.info <http://www.eminfo.info/>)

>

> I always actually considered urine therapy after reading about

> it on curezone, but never had the guts to try. At the time I was

> also on some bad meds and decided that drinking my own urine

> might be a bad thing.

>

> Are you really sure it will help? I mean, you can understand

> it's not something I'd try lightly!!!

>

> Then again, I don't even know that it's Candida that's causing

> my leaky gut. My first doctor thought it was parasites. I know

> Diflucan never cleared it.

>

> On 11/14/06, *Garnet* <garnetridge@...

> > wrote:

>

> The problem with CS for Leaky Gut that is secondary to Candida

> Overgrowth is the CS does not reach the lower gut areas

> where the

> Candida grows. That is also the problem with most

> supplements intended

> to affect the growth of Candida.

>

> Urine, oral and by enema does reach these areas. It is

> important to take

> high count probiotics, the liquid kind that is kept in the

> fridge at the

> health food stores. Yogurt and even capsules cannot touch

> the counts in

> these liquids. They also have more species of beneficial

> organisms.

>

> Taking fructooligosaccharides, found in water soluble fiber and

> supplement form is important to feed the probiotics.

>

> DMSO orally should only be consumed on an empty stomach or

> nausea will

> follow. I have not used it as an enema but would probably

> try 30%

> initially and work up if that is comfortable. I do not find

> that it

> burns the mucous membranes in my mouth so I would not think

> it would

> burn as an enema in low concentrations.

>

> I am always amazed that people think their skin is full of

> impurities

> that might be carried in by DMSO. What is it that could be

> on your skin?

> And why not just wash the area and stop obsessing. To me it

> sounds like

> FUD perpetuated by Big Pharma.

>

> Keep in mind that it ONLY transports molecules of 1000

> daltons or less.

> That is a very limited size of molecule that many substances

> surpass. It

> can not therefore carry in a bacteria, a virus, dirt and

> many other of

> the so called impurities that people might be concerned about.

>

> As far as the purity of DMSO, I have only heard these

> concerns from

> those selling what they claim is more pure. Can you say

> conflict of

> interest?

>

> Garnet

>

> Shirley Armintrout, Moon Eng wrote:

>>

>> >

>> > This is slightly off topic, but it's just because we've been

>> discussing

>> > similar things:

>> >

>> > Does anybody have an effective strategy for beating

> leaky gut? I'm

>> not sure

>> > if it's candida or parasites causing it. I was thinking

> maybe high

>> doses of

>> > CS for a long time + CS enemas. Does anybody here

> actually do DMSO

>> enemas?

>> > Doesn't it burn like mad?

>> >

>>

>> Many supplements, such as l-glutamine, in particular, are

>> recommended by alternative practitioners. DMSO, IV, and

> oral, was

>> administered to me in a complex situation that included

> leaky gut.

>> An M.D. has also suggested that I could experiment with

> applying

>> DMSO on the skin above the areas involved. The burning is

> partially

>> related to the concentration of DMSO. Labs sells

> pure DMSO at

>> 50 and 70% concentrations. You can dilute it further to

> determine

>> what potency is best for you. Dr. feels that much of

> the DMSO

>> available is not pure enough, and that that's particularly

> important

>> for DMSO because it penetrates body tissues carrying along

> with it

>> positive ingredients you may have wanted internally, using

> DMSO as a

>> carrier, as well as impurities that may be on your skin or

> in the

>> DMSO. I don't know about DMSO enemas, but DMSO is being

> used for

>> institial cystitis.

>>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

November 15, 2006

Or even how your body metabolizes it. There is some information that

says DMSO is metabolized at least 15% to MSM. I have not looked for

information on the exact metabolism of DMSO in the literature just have

read,probably in DMSO Nature's Healer which summarizes the literature up

to 1994, that each person can vary in how much odor they experience, and

taste for that matter. We are not all as uniform as medical science

would have us believe. And we do not eat the same foods each day, where

there is some naturally occurring DMSO and chlorophyll among other

substances that could affect things. Many people react to various

pharmaceutical agents differently also.

And yes, it has to be related to dose. Perhaps with the enemas since

that route of administration by passes a first pass through the liver

there is less metabolism and more absorption into tissues, where it is

broken down into different metabolites. Orally, at least with most

drugs, the liver gets a shot at them before they go out to the general

circulation. DMSO is absorbed directly from the mouth and on down the GI

tract so there is less hepatic by pass than with drugs that are not.

Alcohol is also absorbed directly from the stomach btw, which is one

reason it hits you so quickly.

Garnet

Marcus wrote:

>

> > Well, i don't know if it is because I am taking the DMSO anally as

> > opposed to orally or topically, but smell has just not been a problem.

> > After reading this I got paranoid and went over to my Mother's and also

> > ran into a neighbor and neither said that they could smell anything

> > unusal on me. Hope that is true....

> > Nikki

>

> As Is said - everyone is different. It depends on multiple factors - how

> much you take, and one other that I neglected to mention - how well your

> body metabolizes it.

>

November 15, 2006

Oh no, I had quite a few H202 IV's. It never did anything even once.

But it seems to have helped some people. I guess it depends on what's infecting you.On 11/15/06, Garnet <

garnetridge@...> wrote: