Re: OCD - ADD

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have some OCD/ADD tendencies as well. I know what some of the other

posters have said about the " evening-out " of things, but it is tough to explain.

Like if I accidentally brush the side of a wall or something, and it just kind

of feels " off " or i touched it with only the side of my hand, or it sounds

" wrong " (go with me, here), I feel the need to use the opposite side of my hand

or full hand to touch it right, or to make the sound even, or something. man i

have no idea, it's just there.

I've had bad attention as well, I'm very easily distracted and get accused of

not listening a lot. An hour is about as long as I can sit still anywhere, and

that's stretching it.

I think it's important that we all do share the other things we are going

through to see other commonalities that may or may not be linked to the

misophonia.

Has anyone tried hypnosis to rid yourself of sound issues? Wondering if it's

worth a shot.

>

> Hi Everyone!

>

> Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to do sort of

> an informal poll -

>

> Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies? It

> seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning to

> make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people with

> these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or related

> problem as well on here?

>

>

>

> Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get closer

> to finding a solution!

>

> Hugs,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I’ve been trying the hypnosis downloads and actually do

think it is working to some degree. I actually thought I was “healed”

for a minute, but then my husband started getting on my nerves again a few days

later. I actually had a house of company and none of them were bugging me –

even thought they were eating quite loud. I recognized that they had poor table

manners, but it didn’t cause the rage or flight syndrome I typically

would have. It was quite amazing as I really felt “normal” for once.

Though, I do think the cds or whatever are something you have to listen to frequently

for it to continue to help – they are only 12 dollars so it was worth it

to give it a shot. Between that and just mentally trying to remind myself that

it is just a noise has been helping a little bit … in my

case, though, I do know that my trigger was initially due to emotional abuse by

a person who ate really piggish (or some of you seem to have had a parent who

made a big deal of table manners) and it began to associate in my mind as such.

So, I do think perhaps there is both an emotional component to the misophonia

as well as possibly some sort of brain dysfunction/physical thing that maybe

both have to be in place. I think the physical issue has to do with serotonin or

possibly damage to a certain part of the brain (trauma birth, vaccination side

effects) that also typically causes ADD and or OCD and possibly any other serotonin

related brain disorders… or, high stress for long periods of time can

also cause the serotonin to diminish – so, the pstd/anxiety/depression.

When serotonin is low we have problems concentrating and therefore I wonder if

it causes an overload when we are trying to concentrate or relax and hear these

extra sounds or noises that distract us and it is just too much to handle.

Possibly these noises cause others “stress” on their hearing, but

since they are not already at their “limit” as we are due to low

serotonin then it doesn’t cause such severe feelings . I don’t know,

this is just my hypothesis so far and I am trying to work it out to try to

understand. …

Thoughts?

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of bradsomogyi

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:53 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: OCD - ADD

Yes, I have some OCD/ADD tendencies as well. I know what some of the other

posters have said about the " evening-out " of things, but it is tough

to explain. Like if I accidentally brush the side of a wall or something, and

it just kind of feels " off " or i touched it with only the side of my

hand, or it sounds " wrong " (go with me, here), I feel the need to use

the opposite side of my hand or full hand to touch it right, or to make the

sound even, or something. man i have no idea, it's just there.

I've had bad attention as well, I'm very easily distracted and get accused of

not listening a lot. An hour is about as long as I can sit still anywhere, and

that's stretching it.

I think it's important that we all do share the other things we are going

through to see other commonalities that may or may not be linked to the

misophonia.

Has anyone tried hypnosis to rid yourself of sound issues? Wondering if it's

worth a shot.

>

> Hi Everyone!

>

> Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to do sort of

> an informal poll -

>

> Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies? It

> seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning

to

> make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people

with

> these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or

related

> problem as well on here?

>

>

>

> Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get

closer

> to finding a solution!

>

> Hugs,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was thought to have ADD for years before I was finally and accurately diagnosed as having Asperger's syndrome in my late teens.As for OCD tendencies, I don't think so. My fussiness and habit-driven ways can be attributed to Asperger's as well.= M-F.>Hi Everyone!>Okay, so after being on here for a little bit – I would like to do sort of an informal poll –>Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies? It seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning to make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people with these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or related problem as well on here? >Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get closer to finding a solution!>Hugs,>

[Guest guest]

Do you all think that there are any similar components of the

brain effected/overlap in Asperbergers/Autisim/ADD/OCD? They all seem to have a

neurological component…. It seems all of our symptoms seem to fit within one of

the categories, just not all in the same category like those diagnosed with one

of them specifically? I really still think this has something to do with

possible damage to a certain part of the brain – perhaps in childbirth or from

mercury poisoning etc. The good news is that if that is the case – then I think

I have heard that going on a specific diet can really help – gluten and caisin

free and possibly some sort of chelation therapy to rid mercury etc. as autism

specifically had a lot of attention in recent years and some kids have really

turned around on these diets … thoughts or is this way off base???

For more info – go on dr. mercola’s website and he talks about the

effects of vaccines etc. They link it to autism – well, most of us had vaccines

but maybe they were a little less severe years ago as they had several less

back then – so, not causing full on autism, but possibly just a little less

damaged in that area of our brains and that is how it manifested itself with us

is more these few symptoms of noise sensitivity etc? We are able to live somewhat

normal lives, but may be impaired to some degree… hmmm.

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of Multi-Facets

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:56 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: OCD - ADD

I

was thought to have ADD for years before I was finally and accurately diagnosed

as having Asperger's syndrome in my late teens.

As

for OCD tendencies, I don't think so. My fussiness and habit-driven ways can be

attributed to Asperger's as well.

=

M-F.

>Hi Everyone!

>Okay, so after being on here for a little bit – I would like

to do sort of an informal poll –

>Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of

tendencies? It seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is

beginning to make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there

people with these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or

related problem as well on here?

>Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities

we can get closer to finding a solution!

>Hugs,

>

[Guest guest]

I'm apt to think that it's genetic, rather than due to toxic effects, based on

the number of people that have relatives with the condition and that we have

very similar onsets, which I don't thnk would be the case if it was in reaction

to an outside influence.

Opinons?

>

> >Hi Everyone!

>

> >Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to do sort of

> an informal poll -

>

> >Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies? It

> seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning to

> make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people with

> these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or related

> problem as well on here?

>

>

>

> >Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get

> closer to finding a solution!

>

> >Hugs,

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think that, possibly, it is a combination of both heredity and

environmental combined. That is why it sometimes runs in families, but the

onset can be due to an environmental trigger, which is why it is still randomly

in families …. Do you happen to have symptoms from one of these other types of “disorders”

or no?

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of annareutzel

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:56 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: OCD - ADD

I'm apt to think that it's genetic, rather than

due to toxic effects, based on the number of people that have relatives with

the condition and that we have very similar onsets, which I don't thnk would be

the case if it was in reaction to an outside influence.

Opinons?

>

> >Hi Everyone!

>

> >Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to do

sort of

> an informal poll -

>

> >Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies?

It

> seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning

to

> make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people

with

> these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or

related

> problem as well on here?

>

>

>

> >Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get

> closer to finding a solution!

>

> >Hugs,

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I highly recommend the GAPS diet (Gut and Psychology Syndrome). You have to buy

the book to really understand it all, but there are a lot of resources on the

web to get you started. I haven't followed it exactly, but I'm seeing so much

improvement that it's very encouraging. Here are some helpful sites:

http://gapsdiet.com/

http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

http://gapsguide.com/

Here's my testimonial: Two years ago I found this group because my 4s was out

of control. My daughter had developed hard to treat allergy-like symptoms and

was clearing her throat all the time. We tried for a year to make it stop,

putting her on all sorts of nasty pills, nasal sprays, etc. The sound became so

unbearable to me that I thought I wouldn't be able to stand another day. She's

my daughter, and I love her so much, and it was incredibly painful to be so

annoyed to the point of anger. There were times I felt like I hated her, even

though I knew she couldn't help it. I've never actually admitted that before,

but it's true. I felt like the worst mother ever, and I try very hard to be the

best I can be. It was absolute torture.

The various treatments would work for a while, then the throat-clearing would

return. After a year, she was diagnosed with a sinus infection and treated with

antibiotics. After a few days, the throat-clearing was gone. It was an amazing

relief to be rid of it, but I feared it would come back. I knew I couldn't

stand to hear it again. You guys know what I mean--you know how 4s works.

So two years later, here's what's happening now: I'm on the diet, and I'm

feeling really good in general. I have other reasons to try a diet in

particular, since I have GI problems as well. It's been so amazing to feel

almost normal! I don't feel the stress of trigger sounds as much, although they

still register and sometimes annoy me. They just don't seem to fill me with the

rage and uncontrollable frustration I used to feel.

I started that diet just in time, because my daughter's throat-clearing came

back a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't sure it was same thing, so I waited a

while, but it's gotten worse. So now she's on antibiotics for a sinus infection

that will hopefully clear up quickly. She's home from school today, clearing

her throat, and though it bugs me a little, I can handle it. Maybe it's partly

because I know how to treat it and we're working to clear it up, but I feel like

the newfound steadiness the diet has given me is really helping.

On a less profound note, the dog that barks across the street doesn't bother me

anymore! I hardly notice it, and it used to fill me with rage.

If you take grains, starches, most sugars, plus additives and refined junk out

of your diet, it's almost a guarantee that you will feel better. It may not

cure you, but it makes you healthier in so many ways. It run counter to most

nutritional advice, but I'm telling you it works!

> >

> > >Hi Everyone!

> >

> > >Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to do sort

> of

> > an informal poll -

> >

> > >Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of tendencies? It

> > seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is beginning

> to

> > make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there people

> with

> > these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or

> related

> > problem as well on here?

> >

> >

> >

> > >Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can get

> > closer to finding a solution!

> >

> > >Hugs,

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, thanks so much for the info. ! I don’t have the book

yet – just stuff from the web. These are great resources and I have a good

feeling that this is going to help. I can’t imagine that the tired and on edge

way I get from sugar and caffeine and lack of nutrients wouldn’t help to some

degree, let alone the other stuff. Anyway, it is good to be healthy!! If you

have any recipes or anything to share – I would love to hear. Thanks for the

encouragement!!

From: Soundsensitivity

[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of smharde

Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:37 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: OCD - ADD

I highly recommend the GAPS diet (Gut and

Psychology Syndrome). You have to buy the book to really understand it all, but

there are a lot of resources on the web to get you started. I haven't followed

it exactly, but I'm seeing so much improvement that it's very encouraging. Here

are some helpful sites:

http://gapsdiet.com/

http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

http://gapsguide.com/

Here's my testimonial: Two years ago I found this group because my 4s was out

of control. My daughter had developed hard to treat allergy-like symptoms and

was clearing her throat all the time. We tried for a year to make it stop,

putting her on all sorts of nasty pills, nasal sprays, etc. The sound became so

unbearable to me that I thought I wouldn't be able to stand another day. She's

my daughter, and I love her so much, and it was incredibly painful to be so

annoyed to the point of anger. There were times I felt like I hated her, even

though I knew she couldn't help it. I've never actually admitted that before,

but it's true. I felt like the worst mother ever, and I try very hard to be the

best I can be. It was absolute torture.

The various treatments would work for a while, then the throat-clearing would

return. After a year, she was diagnosed with a sinus infection and treated with

antibiotics. After a few days, the throat-clearing was gone. It was an amazing

relief to be rid of it, but I feared it would come back. I knew I couldn't

stand to hear it again. You guys know what I mean--you know how 4s works.

So two years later, here's what's happening now: I'm on the diet, and I'm

feeling really good in general. I have other reasons to try a diet in

particular, since I have GI problems as well. It's been so amazing to feel

almost normal! I don't feel the stress of trigger sounds as much, although they

still register and sometimes annoy me. They just don't seem to fill me with the

rage and uncontrollable frustration I used to feel.

I started that diet just in time, because my daughter's throat-clearing came

back a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't sure it was same thing, so I waited a

while, but it's gotten worse. So now she's on antibiotics for a sinus infection

that will hopefully clear up quickly. She's home from school today, clearing

her throat, and though it bugs me a little, I can handle it. Maybe it's partly

because I know how to treat it and we're working to clear it up, but I feel

like the newfound steadiness the diet has given me is really helping.

On a less profound note, the dog that barks across the street doesn't bother me

anymore! I hardly notice it, and it used to fill me with rage.

If you take grains, starches, most sugars, plus additives and refined junk out

of your diet, it's almost a guarantee that you will feel better. It may not

cure you, but it makes you healthier in so many ways. It run counter to most

nutritional advice, but I'm telling you it works!

> >

> > >Hi Everyone!

> >

> > >Okay, so after being on here for a little bit - I would like to

do sort

> of

> > an informal poll -

> >

> > >Does everyone on here also suffer from ADD or OCD type of

tendencies? It

> > seems to be a recurring issue for many of us on here and it is

beginning

> to

> > make me wonder if it is connected to this in some way? Are there

people

> with

> > these issues of misophonia who do not have an issue with ADD/OCD or

> related

> > problem as well on here?

> >

> >

> >

> > >Thanks! Maybe if we can help to pinpoint some similarities we can

get

> > closer to finding a solution!

> >

> > >Hugs,

> >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, that is so awesome that this diet is working for you! I'm glad you are

feeling better. I really want to try this but I think I will have to cut out

those foods gradually or I will go into withdrawl shock since pasta, potato's,

chocolate, and diet coke are my favorites. LOL. Man I'm in trouble. LOL.

>

> I highly recommend the GAPS diet (Gut and Psychology Syndrome). You have to

buy the book to really understand it all, but there are a lot of resources on

the web to get you started. I haven't followed it exactly, but I'm seeing so

much improvement that it's very encouraging. Here are some helpful sites:

>

> http://gapsdiet.com/

> http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

> http://gapsguide.com/

>

> Here's my testimonial: Two years ago I found this group because my 4s was out

of control. My daughter had developed hard to treat allergy-like symptoms and

was clearing her throat all the time. We tried for a year to make it stop,

putting her on all sorts of nasty pills, nasal sprays, etc. The sound became so

unbearable to me that I thought I wouldn't be able to stand another day. She's

my daughter, and I love her so much, and it was incredibly painful to be so

annoyed to the point of anger. There were times I felt like I hated her, even

though I knew she couldn't help it. I've never actually admitted that before,

but it's true. I felt like the worst mother ever, and I try very hard to be the

best I can be. It was absolute torture.

>

> The various treatments would work for a while, then the throat-clearing would

return. After a year, she was diagnosed with a sinus infection and treated with

antibiotics. After a few days, the throat-clearing was gone. It was an amazing

relief to be rid of it, but I feared it would come back. I knew I couldn't

stand to hear it again. You guys know what I mean--you know how 4s works.

>

> So two years later, here's what's happening now: I'm on the diet, and I'm

feeling really good in general. I have other reasons to try a diet in

particular, since I have GI problems as well. It's been so amazing to feel

almost normal! I don't feel the stress of trigger sounds as much, although they

still register and sometimes annoy me. They just don't seem to fill me with the

rage and uncontrollable frustration I used to feel.

>

> I started that diet just in time, because my daughter's throat-clearing came

back a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't sure it was same thing, so I waited a

while, but it's gotten worse. So now she's on antibiotics for a sinus infection

that will hopefully clear up quickly. She's home from school today, clearing

her throat, and though it bugs me a little, I can handle it. Maybe it's partly

because I know how to treat it and we're working to clear it up, but I feel like

the newfound steadiness the diet has given me is really helping.

>

> On a less profound note, the dog that barks across the street doesn't bother

me anymore! I hardly notice it, and it used to fill me with rage.

>

> If you take grains, starches, most sugars, plus additives and refined junk out

of your diet, it's almost a guarantee that you will feel better. It may not

cure you, but it makes you healthier in so many ways. It run counter to most

nutritional advice, but I'm telling you it works!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't

miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as

you feel better.

On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my

stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains

means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you

want, it would be harder.

I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud

" ticks " coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.

> >

> > I highly recommend the GAPS diet (Gut and Psychology Syndrome). You have to

buy the book to really understand it all, but there are a lot of resources on

the web to get you started. I haven't followed it exactly, but I'm seeing so

much improvement that it's very encouraging. Here are some helpful sites:

> >

> > http://gapsdiet.com/

> > http://www.gutandpsychologysyndrome.com/

> > http://gapsguide.com/

> >

> > Here's my testimonial: Two years ago I found this group because my 4s was

out of control. My daughter had developed hard to treat allergy-like symptoms

and was clearing her throat all the time. We tried for a year to make it stop,

putting her on all sorts of nasty pills, nasal sprays, etc. The sound became so

unbearable to me that I thought I wouldn't be able to stand another day. She's

my daughter, and I love her so much, and it was incredibly painful to be so

annoyed to the point of anger. There were times I felt like I hated her, even

though I knew she couldn't help it. I've never actually admitted that before,

but it's true. I felt like the worst mother ever, and I try very hard to be the

best I can be. It was absolute torture.

> >

> > The various treatments would work for a while, then the throat-clearing

would return. After a year, she was diagnosed with a sinus infection and

treated with antibiotics. After a few days, the throat-clearing was gone. It

was an amazing relief to be rid of it, but I feared it would come back. I knew

I couldn't stand to hear it again. You guys know what I mean--you know how 4s

works.

> >

> > So two years later, here's what's happening now: I'm on the diet, and I'm

feeling really good in general. I have other reasons to try a diet in

particular, since I have GI problems as well. It's been so amazing to feel

almost normal! I don't feel the stress of trigger sounds as much, although they

still register and sometimes annoy me. They just don't seem to fill me with the

rage and uncontrollable frustration I used to feel.

> >

> > I started that diet just in time, because my daughter's throat-clearing came

back a couple of weeks ago. I wasn't sure it was same thing, so I waited a

while, but it's gotten worse. So now she's on antibiotics for a sinus infection

that will hopefully clear up quickly. She's home from school today, clearing

her throat, and though it bugs me a little, I can handle it. Maybe it's partly

because I know how to treat it and we're working to clear it up, but I feel like

the newfound steadiness the diet has given me is really helping.

> >

> > On a less profound note, the dog that barks across the street doesn't bother

me anymore! I hardly notice it, and it used to fill me with rage.

> >

> > If you take grains, starches, most sugars, plus additives and refined junk

out of your diet, it's almost a guarantee that you will feel better. It may not

cure you, but it makes you healthier in so many ways. It run counter to most

nutritional advice, but I'm telling you it works!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this

connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering

how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet

recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult

because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted

chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and

artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I

am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a

little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS

diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think

there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the noises.

paula

>

> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I

don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

>

> The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier

as you feel better.

>

> On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my

stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains

means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you

want, it would be harder.

>

> I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud

" ticks " coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this would apply to everyone, but for about 2 years I stringently followed a very similar diet--no sugar, grains, etc., and now find that I can loosen up to some degree and handle things better even while not following the diet like I did. Still have to be careful but its' like it tipped in the direction that now I can handle some whole grains.

Re: OCD - ADD

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the noises.

paula

>

> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

>

> The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.

>

> On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.

>

> I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.

>

>

>

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Me too Lynn, I eliminated grains, sugar, dairy, yeast and most processed food and I think that now I am better able to tolerate them. Though I know that I do better when I don't have any yeast, gluten or sugar. It was so frustrating eliminating things from my diet because there always seemed like there was still something producing one symptom or another. I still experience fatigue, acne, bloating, gas, triggers and other symtpoms regardless whether I eliminate these things from my diet or not. I've been doing elimination, atkins, gluten-free, lactose-free, body ecology and other elimination diets for over 10 years and I'm so tired of regulating my food. I wish I could just whatever I want ) What I have noticed is that

when I'm sick and go for several days without eating hardly anything I feel MUCH better...but I guess that's not an option.

Love,

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:03:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I don't know if this would apply to everyone, but for about 2 years I stringently followed a very similar diet--no sugar, grains, etc., and now find that I can loosen up to some degree and handle things better even while not following the diet like I did. Still have to be careful but its' like it tipped in the direction that now I can handle some whole grains.

Re: OCD - ADD

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.paula>> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!> > The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.> > On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.> > I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I've also had all the ongoing problems you mentioned for years, andra, and one thing that really helps me with the bloating and clears my mind pretty quickly is caprylic acid, probiotics and zeolite, which if I take the zeolite and caprylic acid right during or after ingesting something that really triggers, it helps get the toxins out rather quickly. When I go to my mom's for dinner, she just gets so disgusted that I can't eat much, but what can ya do? Sigh. Growing up was a challenge because she constantly fed me all the crap that I just can't handle and had no clue why I was so "difficult." She still doesn't get it. Yeast is a big kicker for me. Fuzzy mind and irritability rather quickly! It used to make me really mean and nasty within minutes of ingestion. Now I just get the fuzzies as I call them and irritability with a stuffy nose. It's no fun, but I've finally realized it's less fun feeling lousy. The fatigue is much better too. I still have a treat here and there, just keep it to minimum. Usually make my own healthy versions if I have time. I know I sound like the vitamin queen(!), but chromium 200 mcg a day is a safe dose for those of you trying to eliminate the sugar cravings. It worked within days for me. Then you can go down to 100 mcg a day and see how that works. I'm so glad I found this group!

Re: OCD - ADD

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.

paula

>

> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

>

> The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.

>

> On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.

>

> I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh, yeah, not eating is a bit drastic, isn't it?

Re: OCD - ADD

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.

paula

>

> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

>

> The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.

>

> On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.

>

> I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

For pasta lovers, I recommend organic noodles made of rice or vegetables, smothered in cheese if possible. Aw jeah. ^n_n^= M-F.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn, I can't believe how similar my symptoms are to yours. I have forever nasal/sinus problems and definitely worse when I have yeast/milk products. I know just how you feel about the irritability and fatigue. I also have problems with fuzzy mind and memory. I have been meaning to take caprylic acid for such a long time but never got to it. I read much about it when I was following the anti-candida diet. Have you tried cabbage rejuvelac? You can make it fresh at home and if you drink a bit before foods it really helps with digestion. You know that the causes of candida overgrowth can cause toxins to settle in the brain and cause mental and emotional problems similar and even more severe than the ones we experience. I was

convinced for a long time that that was the cause. When I do the candida diet I feel much better physically but I still experience triggers. The diet is just too strict to stay on and I get such bad sugar/carb cravings.

Thanks so much for your email. I'm so happy to find someone that experience the same physical and emotional issues that I do!!!

Can you please let me know where you purchase the capryllic acid and the zeolite? Have you tried kefir?

Love,

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:50:36 AMSubject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I've also had all the ongoing problems you mentioned for years, andra, and one thing that really helps me with the bloating and clears my mind pretty quickly is caprylic acid, probiotics and zeolite, which if I take the zeolite and caprylic acid right during or after ingesting something that really triggers, it helps get the toxins out rather quickly. When I go to my mom's for dinner, she just gets so disgusted that I can't eat much, but what can ya do? Sigh. Growing up was a challenge because she constantly fed me all the crap that I just can't handle and had no clue why I was so "difficult." She still doesn't get it. Yeast is a big kicker for me. Fuzzy mind and irritability rather quickly! It used to make me really mean and nasty within minutes of ingestion. Now I just get the fuzzies as I call them and irritability with a stuffy

nose. It's no fun, but I've finally realized it's less fun feeling lousy. The fatigue is much better too. I still have a treat here and there, just keep it to minimum. Usually make my own healthy versions if I have time. I know I sound like the vitamin queen(!), but chromium 200 mcg a day is a safe dose for those of you trying to eliminate the sugar cravings. It worked within days for me. Then you can go down to 100 mcg a day and see how that works. I'm so glad I found this group!

Re: OCD - ADD

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.paula>> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!> > The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.> > On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.> > I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I think I can handle omitting gluten and casein...but if I have to omit sugar, fructose and all starches, then it gets a bit tricky. I need rice and potatoes to console me )

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:57:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Forgot 1 thing--I read an article that said it can take up to 5 months of being on the gluten, casein-free diet for it to work for some people. And Beano is my best friend.

Re: OCD - ADD

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.paula>> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!> > The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.> > On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.> > I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I cheat soemtimes too on the diet M-F, it's very difficult not to.

I'm interested what you felt/feel when you are "nasty" to your parents. Is it because you feel like you truly cannot help your behavior or it it just because you choose to be?

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:00:15 AMSubject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I'm on a carb-free, sugar-and-all-its-relatives-free, starch-free, as-gluten-free-as-possible, everything-else-you-find-in-food-free, organic-as-possible diet. It's supposed to be good for people with Asperger's and bipolar disorder. It was Hell at the beginning; I was so nasty to my parents to the point they said if I kept up the attitude and went off the diet, they'd throw me out.

I cheat considerably on said diet, but for the most part, I really am eating better and losing weight, and my parents think my manners are better. I don't know if it helps the 4S at all, along with the WNGs, as I still cringe, flinch, curse, run away, and snap my head back if I'm under fire, but then again, I don't dare hope I'm getting better for fear I'll rapidly get worse.

= M-F.

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you

eat and the severity of the noises.paula

[Guest guest]

Brown rice organic pasta with ghee is my favorite. Ghee you can easily make at home with salt-free (preferable organic butter) and it's lactose free.

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:54:34 AMSubject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

For pasta lovers, I recommend organic noodles made of rice or vegetables, smothered in cheese if possible. Aw jeah. ^n_n^

= M-F.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I'm thrilled you feel so much better )

Can you please send us some sample days of what you eat so that we can have idea of what meals are like?

Thanks so much!

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:21:09 AMSubject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

The GAPS diet has been doing WONDERS for me. I had a bad few days after a few wonderful days, so not sure what I did wrong. Anyway, last night, I turned and there was my husband eating an ice cream cone. I hadn’t even noticed and he was almost done. That hasn’t happened in forever. Too, I’ve even been making popcorn for us. For me to suggest and actually give him popcorn – I KNOw I have turned a corner. I am feeling like a normal person. Even if it is intermittent - I am all for anything if it can help. I miss some foods, but for the most part these healthy foods taste great anyway and make me feel like I am doing a good thing for myself (and my family as we all feel much better when I am niceJ). Not sure how Easter dinner is going to be this year, but that’s okayJ.

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Multi-FacetsSent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:00 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I'm on a carb-free, sugar-and-all-its-relatives-free, starch-free, as-gluten-free-as-possible, everything-else-you-find-in-food-free, organic-as-possible diet. It's supposed to be good for people with Asperger's and bipolar disorder. It was Hell at the beginning; I was so nasty to my parents to the point they said if I kept up the attitude and went off the diet, they'd throw me out.

I cheat considerably on said diet, but for the most part, I really am eating better and losing weight, and my parents think my manners are better. I don't know if it helps the 4S at all, along with the WNGs, as I still cringe, flinch, curse, run away, and snap my head back if I'm under fire, but then again, I don't dare hope I'm getting better for fear I'll rapidly get worse.

= M-F.

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link

to what you eat and the severity of the noises.paula

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Most grains contain gluten with the except for rice and maybe oats (oats is controversial). Potatoes also don't contain gluten. Starches pretty much include all grains, rice, oats, legumes and potatoes (all the good stuff) pretty much all the carb-containing foods. I think it depends on the diet and what you're trying to eliminate.

Hope that helps,

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:30:38 AMSubject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

When you guys say no grains, what does that mean? Does that mean even the glucose free breads etc.? BTW – I think fasting one day per week is probably a pretty healthful thing for one’s body. There is good detox from that and they did it in ancient times. I wish I could do it – maybe when I am done nursing I will give it a go….

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of lynnrobins@...Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:57 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Forgot 1 thing--I read an article that said it can take up to 5 months of being on the gluten, casein-free diet for it to work for some people. And Beano is my best friend.

Re: OCD - ADD

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the

severity of the noises.paula>> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!> > The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.> > On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.> > I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me

crazy.> > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks!

My typical day has been:

Breakfast:

Gluten Free Cereal and Rice Milk

or – gluten free bread with peanut butter

or- Eggs

Mid morning:

Big water with ounce of organic cranberry juice (unsweetened)

glass of Living Fuel Health Drink

Lunch-

I typically eat soup which I make homemade once a week. A big

vat of it filled with cabbage, sweet potatoes, onion, carrots, etc. just

whatever vegetables I have on hand or decide to get and then usually chicken or

ground turkey in it for some protein. I did it pretty much through my pregnancy

to make sure to get my 5 veggies a day. I used to eat it with noodles but now a

small tad of rice.

Or – gluten free version of eggplant parm.

Or – gluten free bread peanut butter sandwich

Or – an Amy’s gluten free organic microwave meal

Dinner

Same options as lunch typically or fish/rice meat and veg type

of thing

Snacks

Plain Popcorn (not microwave)

Cashews

Gluten Free Pretzles

Gluten Free Cookies

Gluten Free Rice Dream Ice Cream

That has been pretty much it. I haven’t had too much time to

search for recipes etc. yet since just starting so I have kept it pretty

simple.

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of andra Ruiz

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:12 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Hi

, I'm thrilled you feel so much better )

Can

you please send us some sample days of what you eat so that we can have idea of

what meals are like?

Thanks

so much!

andra

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:21:09 AM

Subject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

The GAPS diet has been doing WONDERS for

me. I had a bad few days after a few wonderful days, so not sure what I did

wrong. Anyway, last night, I turned and there was my husband eating an ice

cream cone. I hadn’t even noticed and he was almost done. That hasn’t happened

in forever. Too, I’ve even been making popcorn for us. For me to suggest and

actually give him popcorn – I KNOw I have turned a corner. I am feeling like a

normal person. Even if it is intermittent - I am all for anything if it

can help. I miss some foods, but for the most part these healthy foods taste

great anyway and make me feel like I am doing a good thing for myself (and my

family as we all feel much better when I am niceJ). Not sure how Easter dinner is going to be this year,

but that’s okayJ.

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of Multi-Facets

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:00 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I'm on a carb-free,

sugar-and-all-its-relatives-free, starch-free, as-gluten-free-as-possible,

everything-else-you-find-in-food-free, organic-as-possible diet. It's supposed

to be good for people with Asperger's and bipolar disorder. It was Hell at the

beginning; I was so nasty to my parents to the point they said if I kept up the

attitude and went off the diet, they'd throw me out.

I cheat considerably on

said diet, but for the most part, I really am eating better and losing weight,

and my parents think my manners are better. I don't know if it helps the 4S at

all, along with the WNGs, as I still cringe, flinch, curse, run away, and snap

my head back if I'm under fire, but then again, I don't dare hope I'm getting

better for fear I'll rapidly get worse.

= M-F.

On

Apr 8, 2009, at 5:33 PM, a Vivona wrote:

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching

this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was

wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the

SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is

difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it.

Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose

(which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you.

I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give

it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS

diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I

really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the noises.

paula

[Guest guest]

Got ya! Are you supposed to get rid of all starches on GAPS too?

I may have missed that!! Yikes!

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of andra Ruiz

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:16 PM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Hi

,

Most

grains contain gluten with the except for rice and maybe oats (oats is

controversial). Potatoes also don't contain gluten. Starches pretty

much include all grains, rice, oats, legumes and potatoes (all the good

stuff) pretty much all the carb-containing foods. I think it depends on

the diet and what you're trying to eliminate.

Hope

that helps,

andra

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:30:38 AM

Subject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

When you guys say no grains, what does

that mean? Does that mean even the glucose free breads etc.? BTW – I think

fasting one day per week is probably a pretty healthful thing for one’s body.

There is good detox from that and they did it in ancient times. I wish I could

do it – maybe when I am done nursing I will give it a go….

From:

Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On

Behalf Of lynnrobins@...

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:57 AM

To: Soundsensitivity

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Forgot

1 thing--I read an article that said it can take up to 5 months of being

on the gluten, casein-free diet for it to work for some people.

And Beano is my best friend.

-----Original

Message-----

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 1:11 am

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Me too Lynn, I eliminated

grains, sugar, dairy, yeast and most processed food and I think that now I am

better able to tolerate them. Though I know that I do better when I don't

have any yeast, gluten or sugar. It was so frustrating eliminating

things from my diet because there always seemed like there was still something

producing one symptom or another. I still experience fatigue, acne,

bloating, gas, triggers and other symtpoms regardless whether I eliminate

these things from my diet or not. I've been doing elimination,

atkins, gluten-free, lactose-free, body ecology and other elimination

diets for over 10 years and I'm so tired of regulating my food. I wish I

could just whatever I want ) What I have noticed is that when I'm

sick and go for several days without eating hardly anything I feel MUCH better...but

I guess that's not an option.

Love,

andra

From:

" lynnrobins@... "

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:03:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

I

don't know if this would apply to everyone, but for about 2 years I stringently

followed a very similar diet--no sugar, grains, etc., and now find that I can

loosen up to some degree and handle things better even while not following the

diet like I did. Still have to be careful but its' like it tipped in the

direction that now I can handle some whole grains.

-----Original

Message-----

To: Soundsensitivity

Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 5:33 pm

Subject: Re: OCD - ADD

,

I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this

connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering

how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet

recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult

because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted

chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and

artificial flavorings. UGH!!

I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I

am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a

little more time until I decide if it's really working.

Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS

diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think

there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the noises.

paula

>

> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I

don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!

>

> The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes

easier as you feel better.

>

> On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my

stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains

means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you

want, it would be harder.

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> I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the

loud " ticks " coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive

me crazy.

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Hi ,

I was just looking over the diet and it looks like gaps allows nuts, lentils and some beans. You can see here what the diet allows:

http://gapsdiet.com/The_Diet.html

Hope this helps )

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:27:15 PMSubject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

Got ya! Are you supposed to get rid of all starches on GAPS too? I may have missed that!! Yikes!

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of andra RuizSent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:16 PMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Hi ,

Most grains contain gluten with the except for rice and maybe oats (oats is controversial). Potatoes also don't contain gluten. Starches pretty much include all grains, rice, oats, legumes and potatoes (all the good stuff) pretty much all the carb-containing foods. I think it depends on the diet and what you're trying to eliminate.

Hope that helps,

andra

To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:30:38 AMSubject: RE: Re: OCD - ADD

When you guys say no grains, what does that mean? Does that mean even the glucose free breads etc.? BTW – I think fasting one day per week is probably a pretty healthful thing for one’s body. There is good detox from that and they did it in ancient times. I wish I could do it – maybe when I am done nursing I will give it a go….

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of lynnrobins@...Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:57 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: Re: OCD - ADD

Forgot 1 thing--I read an article that said it can take up to 5 months of being on the gluten, casein-free diet for it to work for some people. And Beano is my best friend.

Re: OCD - ADD

,I am absolutely with you 100% on diet and 4S. I have been researching this connection for years, and have slowly getting better myself. I was wondering how closely you follow the diet, and if you eat the yogurt that the SCD diet recommends, or not. I try my best to follow the diet, but it is difficult because I eat on the go a lot. Everything has sugar in it. Even the roasted chickens in the grocery store are coated with dextrose (which is a sugar) and artificial flavorings. UGH!!I was also wondering if you have tried any supplements that have helped you. I am taking a probiotic that I think may be helping, but I want to give it a little more time until I decide if it's really working.Please feel free to email me if you want to talk more about the SCD and GAPS diet, or other natural treatments. Maybe we can compare notes. I really think there is a link to what you eat and the severity of the

noises.paula>> I was a huge pasta fan, and it was hard to give up tortilla chips too. I don't miss them anymore. I don't even miss chocolate!> > The greatest thing about going on a diet that works is that it becomes easier as you feel better.> > On the other hand, I'm actually eating yummier food than before, since my stomach problems kept me from most of my favorite foods anyway. Avoiding grains means I can eat peanut butter again So if you're used to eating whatever you want, it would be harder.> > I volunteered at the kids' school again today, and I barely noticed the loud "ticks" coming from the clock every minute. That used to drive me crazy.> >

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