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If it weren't for Dr. G, I wouldn't be in the position I am now to help my kids.

He treats my entire family, even my husband. I can't tell you what a difference

it has made in our lives. I feel so much better, both emotionally and

physically, than I  ever have.

Take care,

Robyn

From: Jerri & Nick Gann <njgann@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 7:24 PM

 

Thanks , I may be alone here but I think there all a lot of us

Mom's looking for some kind of help. I know I have to get healthy

and keep myself together somehow, for everyone in my house's sake.

I'm hoping Dr G will help me. My main doc would not order the lab

tests for me. I undeerstand why. Everything Dr G does is not in the

mainstream. I've hung my hat on him and I'm hoping he will help me

too. I've had too much like you and most of it, within my own body, I

don't blame anyone else for it. I just need some relief and so far I

haven't fallen for illegal stuff. I'm responsible for everyone in

this house. Too much. Keep sharing girl, I sure need it.

---- Original Message ----

From: thecolemans4@...

Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:23:31 -0800 (PST)

>Amantadine isn't a med.  Psychiatrists use it as an adjunct for

>movement

>disorders, usually as a result of side-effects from some of the

>rougher psych

>drugs.

>It's being researched as far as I can tell for parkinsons,

>tourette's, etc.  But

>from what tiny bit I've read (receptor stuff makes my brain hurt -

>agonist,

>antagonist, blah blah blah) those wouldn't seem to be targets for

>that med, so I

>give up trying to understand.

>

>Apparently it's also an NMDA receptor antagonist, w/an effect on

>?glutamate... 

>(I keep saying it's helped so much that my OCD is too reduced to

>research why

>it's helping lol, but it's true!)  Another milder med that affects

>NMDA

>receptors is otc Mucinex DM.

>

>I doubt it would be a med because first there may not be enough

>info on

>long-term effects on this kind of receptor blocking, and maybe it

>would be

>considered a band-aid?  (In my case, I needed a band-aid or not be

>able to work

>anymore. They didn't need me bleeding my insanity all over them. :) 

>I don't

>really know.  (I kind of hate to spark so much curiousity about this

>med on the

> list since it's about the protocol and I've never seen it

>used by Dr

>G, so I might need to stop mentioning it... except gosh I wanna

>share!)

>

>HTH

>

>

>

> 

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Pedersen <mpedestrian@...>

>

>Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 1:47:29 PM

>Subject: Re: Dental work

>

> 

>What is amantadine used for... what type of rx is it?

>

>thanks

>

>

>

>

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I think we're a lot alike!  :)  I give away waaay too much personal info, but

I

just believe there's others feeling the same way.

________________________________

From: Jerri & Nick Gann <njgann@...>

Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 9:24:55 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

 

Thanks , I may be alone here but I think there all a lot of us

Mom's looking for some kind of help. I know I have to get healthy

and keep myself together somehow, for everyone in my house's sake.

I'm hoping Dr G will help me. My main doc would not order the lab

tests for me. I undeerstand why. Everything Dr G does is not in the

mainstream. I've hung my hat on him and I'm hoping he will help me

too. I've had too much like you and most of it, within my own body, I

don't blame anyone else for it. I just need some relief and so far I

haven't fallen for illegal stuff. I'm responsible for everyone in

this house. Too much. Keep sharing girl, I sure need it.

---- Original Message ----

From: thecolemans4@...

Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:23:31 -0800 (PST)

>Amantadine isn't a med.  Psychiatrists use it as an adjunct for

>movement

>disorders, usually as a result of side-effects from some of the

>rougher psych

>drugs.

>It's being researched as far as I can tell for parkinsons,

>tourette's, etc.  But

>from what tiny bit I've read (receptor stuff makes my brain hurt -

>agonist,

>antagonist, blah blah blah) those wouldn't seem to be targets for

>that med, so I

>give up trying to understand.

>

>Apparently it's also an NMDA receptor antagonist, w/an effect on

>?glutamate... 

>(I keep saying it's helped so much that my OCD is too reduced to

>research why

>it's helping lol, but it's true!)  Another milder med that affects

>NMDA

>receptors is otc Mucinex DM.

>

>I doubt it would be a med because first there may not be enough

>info on

>long-term effects on this kind of receptor blocking, and maybe it

>would be

>considered a band-aid?  (In my case, I needed a band-aid or not be

>able to work

>anymore. They didn't need me bleeding my insanity all over them. :) 

>I don't

>really know.  (I kind of hate to spark so much curiousity about this

>med on the

> list since it's about the protocol and I've never seen it

>used by Dr

>G, so I might need to stop mentioning it... except gosh I wanna

>share!)

>

>HTH

>

>

>

> 

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Pedersen <mpedestrian@...>

>

>Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 1:47:29 PM

>Subject: Re: Dental work

>

> 

>What is amantadine used for... what type of rx is it?

>

>thanks

>

>

>

>

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I so appreciate that you do. It helps me feel not so nearly alone. One

great thing that has happened for me because of all of this, is,I really

don't give a flip what anyone thinks anymore. People can be so quick to

judge before they find out the whole story. So fine, let them, don't

care. And I'm so glad I don't do that, to skid row alcoholics, no one. I

just try to avoid danger, and so many people are afraid of others

because they look ''mental " and they are not dangerous at all. Oh well,

off topic again.

>

> I think we're a lot alike! :) I give away waaay too much personal

> info, but I

> just believe there's others feeling the same way.

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri & Nick Gann <njgann@... <mailto:njgann%40sti.net>>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 9:24:55 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

>

>

> Thanks , I may be alone here but I think there all a lot of us

> Mom's looking for some kind of help. I know I have to get healthy

> and keep myself together somehow, for everyone in my house's sake.

> I'm hoping Dr G will help me. My main doc would not order the lab

> tests for me. I undeerstand why. Everything Dr G does is not in the

> mainstream. I've hung my hat on him and I'm hoping he will help me

> too. I've had too much like you and most of it, within my own body, I

> don't blame anyone else for it. I just need some relief and so far I

> haven't fallen for illegal stuff. I'm responsible for everyone in

> this house. Too much. Keep sharing girl, I sure need it.

>

> ---- Original Message ----

> From: thecolemans4@... <mailto:thecolemans4%40>

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:23:31 -0800 (PST)

>

> >Amantadine isn't a med. Psychiatrists use it as an adjunct for

> >movement

> >disorders, usually as a result of side-effects from some of the

> >rougher psych

> >drugs.

> >It's being researched as far as I can tell for parkinsons,

> >tourette's, etc. But

> >from what tiny bit I've read (receptor stuff makes my brain hurt -

> >agonist,

> >antagonist, blah blah blah) those wouldn't seem to be targets for

> >that med, so I

> >give up trying to understand.

> >

> >Apparently it's also an NMDA receptor antagonist, w/an effect on

> >?glutamate...

> >(I keep saying it's helped so much that my OCD is too reduced to

> >research why

> >it's helping lol, but it's true!) Another milder med that affects

> >NMDA

> >receptors is otc Mucinex DM.

> >

> >I doubt it would be a med because first there may not be enough

> >info on

> >long-term effects on this kind of receptor blocking, and maybe it

> >would be

> >considered a band-aid? (In my case, I needed a band-aid or not be

> >able to work

> >anymore. They didn't need me bleeding my insanity all over them. :)

> >I don't

> >really know. (I kind of hate to spark so much curiousity about this

> >med on the

> > list since it's about the protocol and I've never seen it

> >used by Dr

> >G, so I might need to stop mentioning it... except gosh I wanna

> >share!)

> >

> >HTH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> >From: Pedersen <mpedestrian@...

> <mailto:mpedestrian%40earthlink.net>>

> > <mailto:%40>

> >Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 1:47:29 PM

> >Subject: Re: Dental work

> >

> >

> >What is amantadine used for... what type of rx is it?

> >

> >thanks

> >

> >

> >

> >

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- can you tell me exactly what tests you have had done for strep? My

husband is going to his DR next week and I want him to request some testing and

antibiotics if it shows positive. Is it blood? Urine?

thanks

>

> Oh I haven't had success with an anti-depressant yet.  Xanax is a benzo like

> valium. I did actually do well on Effexor for almost a year, then it

destroyed

> my stomach. But xanax, I wouldn't recommend it very everyone, because it is

> addictive and I know too many people who it wears off on and they increase the

> doses.  You're not supposed to take it more than a year.  I'm the opposite

> though - I'm always taking less, and then I'll quit it - it sedates after it

has

> eased the anxiety enough that you're not in a state of 'unnnn!' and I hate

> that.  It's a need/hate relationship.  SSRIs, though - do exactly as you

> describe - jack me up.  Awful.  They don't affect the kids that way though.

>

> I haven't had more than 10 drinks in the last 12 years, and if I do, I find it

> makes me feel worse.  But if you do drink alcohol, Dr G says to only drink

> tequila.  It's the only alcohol that won't feed yeast (and I find that very

> true). :)  I miss my merlot,  but I'm allergic to it - triggers

fibromyalgia,

> and so does whiskey and bourbon.   BTW - narcotics might get you moving, but

if

> I take say cough syrup more than a couple of days, I find my thoughts get

really

> negative.  They won't relax you either - they'll jack you up.  If you're

like me

> (and you probably are if you can drink people under the table - one at a time

in

> a row - I'm a legend at one wedding and they still talk about it 20 years

later

> lol), at first it will seem like a miracle, and it can be hard to notice the

> negatives cropping up, but they're there.  They're really hard on anxiety. 

I do

> believe in using 12-step thinking - that eases my anxiety more than anything

> non-med I've been able to find, but the generalized anxiety 'hum' never goes

> away without treatment.  And the only thing that works is the antibiotic -

> especially along with an antifungal.

>

> My brother has the same severe anxiety as I do, and I've directed him a couple

> of times (begged and nagged for years though) towards specifically requesting

> doxycycline, and after experiencing it a couple of times in combo with

nizoral,

> he's finally a believer, and is going to be seeking help w/Dr too. 

> There are very very few doctors that would treat anxiety this way.  Docs that

> treat lyme will, but the antibiotic choices they typically use are baaad news

> for me.

>

> That's all I'll say 'bout alcohol on-list since this list is about our kids,

and

> I've given off a loooot of personal info lol, but I bet a lot of our moms (and

> dads) experience some of this too.  Dr G devoted a chat (back in the years we

> chatted every Tuesday) to sugar free mixed drink recipes - it was fun :). 

> You're welcome to contact me off-list too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri & Nick Gann <njgann@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:21:53 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

>

>  

>

> Wow,never tried Xanaz, but any other anti-depressent I have ever

> tried has gotten me so jacked up after some time (at first they would

> seem to help) I felt like i was on crack (I'm guessing I've never

> been on crack) like ten cups of expresso and I'm grinding my teeth on

> something, and I could drink others under the table(aloohol) and tell

> them every embarrassing thing they did. No one wanted to hear that of

> course. Never had panic attacks, just generalized anxiety always, i

> can totally relate to post tramatic stress veterans and that is where

> I always want to give money, if I ever do. Many of them say they

> can't get to relaxation, although I think, many of them have been to

> that point and know what it's like. I don't think I've ever been

> there, so maybe I'm not as desperate as one vet i read about, who

> off'd himself from inhaling " dust off. " It gave him enough of a

> relief from the moment he actually died from it. Sorry, I know this

> is very negative and I hope no one ever tries it because i wrote

> about it, but I am desperate for my body to relax but certainly don't

> want to do that. I drink a lot of water but will try and drink more

> , thanks for that suggestion of being hydrated. I recently had

> a short course of Keflex and had brief moments of feeling relaxed and

> optimistic towards everything. The minute the course ended that was

> gone and our family dr. said I do not need anymore antibiotics. But

> those few momets have me hoping this is the answer and I'm working

> with Dr. G and hope he accepts me as a patient and gives me a longer

> dose of antibiotics that will work, whether Keflex or other. Isn't

> that better than drinking yourself to death or seeking out other

> forms of relaxion that are exremely harmful? I joke around with

> everyone, I would take herion if I knew someone that had it, but some

> days I am serious. Thanks for being so brave to share everything,

> . I know I have a lot of the same symptoms and I'm desperate

> for help for my kids and for me so I can continue to help them.

> bravo! Youve helped me and probably many others to be brave too.

> ---- Original Message ----

> From: thecolemans4@...

>

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:46:21 -0800 (PST)

>

> >Sounds like a pattern with us, doesn't it?  It's a very rare problem,

> >yet what

> >... 3 or 4 of us have had that experience in just this small group? 

> >Wierd,

> >isn't it?

> >

> >Xanax - no other anti-anxiety med - is the only thing that can pull

> >me out of

> >severe anxiety, and even it doesn't really knock it out.  If I'm

> >lucky, it makes

> >it tolerable.  I just won't take more than a mg at a time anyway,

> >because if

> >that's not enough then just too bad, so I don't know if higher doses

> >would stop

> >a panic attack.  Fortunately those have been gone for years now, even

> >with my

> >last big crisis.  My panic attacks happened most when I had

> >dysautonomia and

> >walked around w/blood pressure of 70/20.  I've learned now that if

> >I'm even the

> >slightest dehydrated, I have much worse anxiety too.  A 1/2 gallon of

> >water will

> >do more than a xanax.

> >

> >And nothing but antibiotics (well, now I think I can add amantadine

> >to that list

> >- not a med) really gets to the root of my anxiety - especially

> >a

> >doxycycline/antifungal combo (although now I'm on Keflex and it seems

> >to be

> >doing well this time too, except I really think it's more the

> >amantadine).

> >

> >Truly, if it weren't for Dr , I would be disabled.  Back in

> >November I

> >was in such crisis that I wouldn't have been able to continue working

> >more than

> >2 more months.  And I had a period of about a year and a half before

> >I went to

> >TX where I actually was disabled but didn't realize it.  I literally

> >couldn't

> >boil water to cook noodles.  Some days I couldn't even get it started

> >for not

> >being able to remember what I was doing.  Then I'd remember " Oh - I

> >was getting

> >a pot out " .  20 min later I might get water in it.  Then I'd forget

> >to turn on

> >the stove.  Half an hour later I'd realize that. Then I'd start it,

> >walk out of

> >the kitchen, and an hour later wonder what the burning smell was, and

> >it was an

> >empty pot smoking on an overheated eye.  Sometimes I'd set a timer

> >and carry it,

> >and not know why the timer was going off, so I'd have to write a note

> >for it (if

> >I could remember to).  Or know why the timer went off but not be able

> >to

> >remember to make it to the kitchen.  I still won't leave the kitchen

> >if I have

> >the stove on.  I keep a chair next to the stove and sit in it until

> >whatever I'm

> >cooking is done.  I learned to never leave for any reason.  If a

> >local doc would

> >give me doxycycline, I'd function for a few days till it was gone,

> >and it would

> >start all over. 

> >

> > Even after starting the  protocol, when a couple of major

> >stressors blew

> >thru my world, I had some really bad periods - probably because I

> >wasn't taking

> >anxiety meds - where I'd regress badly and not even know it until

> >someone else

> >told me.  Now I'm dancing with my kids and chasing them (running!)

> >through the

> >house, laughing, playing, watched a movie, visited with friends I

> >haven't been

> >able to be with for years (and being invited back lol), etc, all in

> >less than a

> >couple of months of a new med.  It's staggering. 

> >

> >

> >If I have a bad day, or I think I'm not doing well, or I embarrassed

> >myself by

> >rambling and talking or typing too much, I just look back to those

> >days.

> >

> >Oh - there was a point here:  I think all of this peaked - not

> >exactly when I

> >got strep - although that went untreated for months after I got

> >labeled a

> >carrier and really messed me up, but the worst of it started after I

> >had a good

> >bit of dental work - a cavity filled, a root canal, and something

> >else.  I

> >couldn't remember to take my antibiotics, went un-medicated, and all

> >hell broke

> >loose (leaking heart valves, worse anemia, cognitive crash.)  Another

> >thing ...

> >did you know those shots the dentist use have something like

> >epinepherine?  No

> >wonder I'd start panicking after the injections.  I never knew, but

> >that was the

> >trigger for intense anxiety during dental procedures.  I never

> >understood,

> >because I wasn't actually scared of anything.  But my body would go

> >so tense and

> >rigid within a minute of the shot that my muscles would feel like I

> >had run a

> >marathon and worked out in a gym for hours.  If you notify your

> >dentist that

> >you're sensitive to it, they can do lighter shots w/lower doses of

> >epi, and it

> >makes for enough improvement that I'd rather feel a little of the

> >dental work

> >than be fully numbed.  (I'll lie - no, that didn't hurt when I jumped

> >out of the

> >chair.)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> >From: RobinW <thelancienfamily@...>

> >

> >Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 2:35:56 AM

> >Subject: Re: Dental work

> >

> > 

> >Valium doesn't do it for me either...I was in the er last summer for

> >a panic

> >attack and they broke down and gave me morphine because valium and

> >ativan didn't

> >work.

> >

> >--- In , <thecolemans4@>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >> Re valium - when I had RK surgery, I was given generic valium, and

> >it didn't

> >> work.  I ended up taking the max of 8 pills over a 2 hour period

> >and I never

> >> felt it at all.  (I can also drink shocking amounts of some types

> >of alcohol

> >>and

> >>

> >> never even feel intoxicated. I thought that was a neat party trick

> >when I was

> >> younger.) Also, the numbing eye drops didn't work either - I had

> >to have

> >> injections in the conjuctiva.  The doctor had a hard time

> >believing it.  A

> >> couple of months later he spoke to a colleague that had the same

> >occurance, and

> >>

> >> it had been determined that there are a few people that both the

> >drops and

> >> generic valium didn't work, whereas the name brand valium will.

> >> It was wierd.  I've found one other person (w/CFS) who had the

> >same experience

> >>

> >> with generic valium.

> >>

> >> It's pretty rare though - I wouldn't assume it would be the case

> >for your son,

> >

> >> but if the generic didn't work, liquid and name will.

> >>

> >> HTH

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ________________________________

> >> From: LH <lrkhmomx3@>

> >>

> >> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:16:41 AM

> >> Subject: Dental work

> >>

> >>  

> >> My son had dental work done. We have had to break the work down

> >into 3 visits.

> >

> >> Has anyone had problems with Valium or the " laughing " gas? If so,

> >what other

> >> options did your dentist offer to you? Thanks.

> >>

> >> Larra

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Mainly I track the " ASO titers " .  There are others as well, but ASO is the most

commonly tested.  None of the tests availble lead to a definitive diagnosis for

anything, just be forwarned.  But if he has very elevated titers, then it does

give you something you might be able to address.  It doesn't guarantee that the

doctor would be particularly likely to help.

You also should get a throat culture if you haven't been on antibiotics for a

while.  Of course, if your throat isn't red and inflamed, most docs are taught

to label you a carrier.  But I'm under the impression that if you're having an

immune reaction to it that you can test for, that pretty much rules out carrier

status.  Just had this discussion w/my pediatrician's partner and he said that

he didn't really know.

HTH

________________________________

From: ckrupa <catherine.krupa@...>

Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 5:36:32 PM

Subject: Re: Dental work

 

- can you tell me exactly what tests you have had done for strep? My

husband is going to his DR next week and I want him to request some testing and

antibiotics if it shows positive. Is it blood? Urine?

thanks

>

> Oh I haven't had success with an anti-depressant yet.  Xanax is a benzo

like

> valium. I did actually do well on Effexor for almost a year, then it

>destroyed

>

> my stomach. But xanax, I wouldn't recommend it very everyone, because it is

> addictive and I know too many people who it wears off on and they increase the

> doses.  You're not supposed to take it more than a year.  I'm the

opposite

> though - I'm always taking less, and then I'll quit it - it sedates after it

>has

>

> eased the anxiety enough that you're not in a state of 'unnnn!' and I hate

> that.  It's a need/hate relationship.  SSRIs, though - do exactly as you

> describe - jack me up.  Awful.  They don't affect the kids that way

though.

>

> I haven't had more than 10 drinks in the last 12 years, and if I do, I find it

> makes me feel worse.  But if you do drink alcohol, Dr G says to only drink

> tequila.  It's the only alcohol that won't feed yeast (and I find that very

> true). :)  I miss my merlot,  but I'm allergic to it - triggers

fibromyalgia,

>

> and so does whiskey and bourbon.   BTW - narcotics might get you moving,

but

>if

>

> I take say cough syrup more than a couple of days, I find my thoughts get

>really

>

> negative.  They won't relax you either - they'll jack you up.  If you're

like

>me

>

> (and you probably are if you can drink people under the table - one at a time

>in

>

> a row - I'm a legend at one wedding and they still talk about it 20 years

later

>

> lol), at first it will seem like a miracle, and it can be hard to notice the

> negatives cropping up, but they're there.  They're really hard on

anxiety. 

>I do

>

> believe in using 12-step thinking - that eases my anxiety more than anything

> non-med I've been able to find, but the generalized anxiety 'hum' never goes

> away without treatment.  And the only thing that works is the antibiotic -

> especially along with an antifungal.

>

> My brother has the same severe anxiety as I do, and I've directed him a couple

> of times (begged and nagged for years though) towards specifically requesting

> doxycycline, and after experiencing it a couple of times in combo with

nizoral,

>

> he's finally a believer, and is going to be seeking help w/Dr too. 

> There are very very few doctors that would treat anxiety this way.  Docs

that

> treat lyme will, but the antibiotic choices they typically use are baaad news

> for me.

>

> That's all I'll say 'bout alcohol on-list since this list is about our kids,

>and

>

> I've given off a loooot of personal info lol, but I bet a lot of our moms (and

> dads) experience some of this too.  Dr G devoted a chat (back in the years

we

> chatted every Tuesday) to sugar free mixed drink recipes - it was fun :). 

> You're welcome to contact me off-list too.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jerri & Nick Gann <njgann@...>

>

> Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:21:53 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

>

>  

>

> Wow,never tried Xanaz, but any other anti-depressent I have ever

> tried has gotten me so jacked up after some time (at first they would

> seem to help) I felt like i was on crack (I'm guessing I've never

> been on crack) like ten cups of expresso and I'm grinding my teeth on

> something, and I could drink others under the table(aloohol) and tell

> them every embarrassing thing they did. No one wanted to hear that of

> course. Never had panic attacks, just generalized anxiety always, i

> can totally relate to post tramatic stress veterans and that is where

> I always want to give money, if I ever do. Many of them say they

> can't get to relaxation, although I think, many of them have been to

> that point and know what it's like. I don't think I've ever been

> there, so maybe I'm not as desperate as one vet i read about, who

> off'd himself from inhaling " dust off. " It gave him enough of a

> relief from the moment he actually died from it. Sorry, I know this

> is very negative and I hope no one ever tries it because i wrote

> about it, but I am desperate for my body to relax but certainly don't

> want to do that. I drink a lot of water but will try and drink more

> , thanks for that suggestion of being hydrated. I recently had

> a short course of Keflex and had brief moments of feeling relaxed and

> optimistic towards everything. The minute the course ended that was

> gone and our family dr. said I do not need anymore antibiotics. But

> those few momets have me hoping this is the answer and I'm working

> with Dr. G and hope he accepts me as a patient and gives me a longer

> dose of antibiotics that will work, whether Keflex or other. Isn't

> that better than drinking yourself to death or seeking out other

> forms of relaxion that are exremely harmful? I joke around with

> everyone, I would take herion if I knew someone that had it, but some

> days I am serious. Thanks for being so brave to share everything,

> . I know I have a lot of the same symptoms and I'm desperate

> for help for my kids and for me so I can continue to help them.

> bravo! Youve helped me and probably many others to be brave too.

> ---- Original Message ----

> From: thecolemans4@...

>

> Subject: Re: Re: Dental work

> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:46:21 -0800 (PST)

>

> >Sounds like a pattern with us, doesn't it?  It's a very rare problem,

> >yet what

> >... 3 or 4 of us have had that experience in just this small group? 

> >Wierd,

> >isn't it?

> >

> >Xanax - no other anti-anxiety med - is the only thing that can pull

> >me out of

> >severe anxiety, and even it doesn't really knock it out.  If I'm

> >lucky, it makes

> >it tolerable.  I just won't take more than a mg at a time anyway,

> >because if

> >that's not enough then just too bad, so I don't know if higher doses

> >would stop

> >a panic attack.  Fortunately those have been gone for years now, even

> >with my

> >last big crisis.  My panic attacks happened most when I had

> >dysautonomia and

> >walked around w/blood pressure of 70/20.  I've learned now that if

> >I'm even the

> >slightest dehydrated, I have much worse anxiety too.  A 1/2 gallon of

> >water will

> >do more than a xanax.

> >

> >And nothing but antibiotics (well, now I think I can add amantadine

> >to that list

> >- not a med) really gets to the root of my anxiety - especially

> >a

> >doxycycline/antifungal combo (although now I'm on Keflex and it seems

> >to be

> >doing well this time too, except I really think it's more the

> >amantadine).

> >

> >Truly, if it weren't for Dr , I would be disabled.  Back in

> >November I

> >was in such crisis that I wouldn't have been able to continue working

> >more than

> >2 more months.  And I had a period of about a year and a half before

> >I went to

> >TX where I actually was disabled but didn't realize it.  I literally

> >couldn't

> >boil water to cook noodles.  Some days I couldn't even get it started

> >for not

> >being able to remember what I was doing.  Then I'd remember " Oh - I

> >was getting

> >a pot out " .  20 min later I might get water in it.  Then I'd forget

> >to turn on

> >the stove.  Half an hour later I'd realize that. Then I'd start it,

> >walk out of

> >the kitchen, and an hour later wonder what the burning smell was, and

> >it was an

> >empty pot smoking on an overheated eye.  Sometimes I'd set a timer

> >and carry it,

> >and not know why the timer was going off, so I'd have to write a note

> >for it (if

> >I could remember to).  Or know why the timer went off but not be able

> >to

> >remember to make it to the kitchen.  I still won't leave the kitchen

> >if I have

> >the stove on.  I keep a chair next to the stove and sit in it until

> >whatever I'm

> >cooking is done.  I learned to never leave for any reason.  If a

> >local doc would

> >give me doxycycline, I'd function for a few days till it was gone,

> >and it would

> >start all over. 

> >

> > Even after starting the  protocol, when a couple of major

> >stressors blew

> >thru my world, I had some really bad periods - probably because I

> >wasn't taking

> >anxiety meds - where I'd regress badly and not even know it until

> >someone else

> >told me.  Now I'm dancing with my kids and chasing them (running!)

> >through the

> >house, laughing, playing, watched a movie, visited with friends I

> >haven't been

> >able to be with for years (and being invited back lol), etc, all in

> >less than a

> >couple of months of a new med.  It's staggering. 

> >

> >

> >If I have a bad day, or I think I'm not doing well, or I embarrassed

> >myself by

> >rambling and talking or typing too much, I just look back to those

> >days.

> >

> >Oh - there was a point here:  I think all of this peaked - not

> >exactly when I

> >got strep - although that went untreated for months after I got

> >labeled a

> >carrier and really messed me up, but the worst of it started after I

> >had a good

> >bit of dental work - a cavity filled, a root canal, and something

> >else.  I

> >couldn't remember to take my antibiotics, went un-medicated, and all

> >hell broke

> >loose (leaking heart valves, worse anemia, cognitive crash.)  Another

> >thing ...

> >did you know those shots the dentist use have something like

> >epinepherine?  No

> >wonder I'd start panicking after the injections.  I never knew, but

> >that was the

> >trigger for intense anxiety during dental procedures.  I never

> >understood,

> >because I wasn't actually scared of anything.  But my body would go

> >so tense and

> >rigid within a minute of the shot that my muscles would feel like I

> >had run a

> >marathon and worked out in a gym for hours.  If you notify your

> >dentist that

> >you're sensitive to it, they can do lighter shots w/lower doses of

> >epi, and it

> >makes for enough improvement that I'd rather feel a little of the

> >dental work

> >than be fully numbed.  (I'll lie - no, that didn't hurt when I jumped

> >out of the

> >chair.)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> >From: RobinW <thelancienfamily@...>

> >

> >Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 2:35:56 AM

> >Subject: Re: Dental work

> >

> > 

> >Valium doesn't do it for me either...I was in the er last summer for

> >a panic

> >attack and they broke down and gave me morphine because valium and

> >ativan didn't

> >work.

> >

> >--- In , <thecolemans4@>

> >wrote:

> >>

> >> Re valium - when I had RK surgery, I was given generic valium, and

> >it didn't

> >> work.  I ended up taking the max of 8 pills over a 2 hour period

> >and I never

> >> felt it at all.  (I can also drink shocking amounts of some

types

> >of alcohol

> >>and

> >>

> >> never even feel intoxicated. I thought that was a neat party trick

> >when I was

> >> younger.) Also, the numbing eye drops didn't work either - I had

> >to have

> >> injections in the conjuctiva.  The doctor had a hard time

> >believing it.  A

> >> couple of months later he spoke to a colleague that had the same

> >occurance, and

> >>

> >> it had been determined that there are a few people that both the

> >drops and

> >> generic valium didn't work, whereas the name brand valium will.

> >> It was wierd.  I've found one other person (w/CFS) who had the

> >same experience

> >>

> >> with generic valium.

> >>

> >> It's pretty rare though - I wouldn't assume it would be the case

> >for your son,

> >

> >> but if the generic didn't work, liquid and name will.

> >>

> >> HTH

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ________________________________

> >> From: LH <lrkhmomx3@>

> >>

> >> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 10:16:41 AM

> >> Subject: Dental work

> >>

> >>  

> >> My son had dental work done. We have had to break the work down

> >into 3 visits.

> >

> >> Has anyone had problems with Valium or the " laughing " gas? If so,

> >what other

> >> options did your dentist offer to you? Thanks.

> >>

> >> Larra

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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