Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 http://www.publichealthalert.org/pdf/2008_12.pdf asc 200 works good there is an add in this news letter on lyme. roger Subject: Rita: treating strepTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 7:57 AM Hi Rita,Can you tell me how you are treating strep? This is a problem with my son and I and it is not resolving by treating borrelia, babesia and bartonella. Thanks.Caryn> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote an article titled . . . . A Unique Healer. The article is a > Recap of> > Energy Medicine 2006 Annual Meeting. This article is at > betterhealthguy. com> > > conferences. quoted a Washington LLMD: > > > > > > > > "There> > is no effective and proven way to kill cysts. Flagyl and > Tinidazole > > > > only> > anecdotally work but Dr. Klinghardt does not generally find them > to > > > > be> > highly useful. There is some information which may suggest that > the > > > > amino> > acid cysteine may crack cysts better than Flagyl and Tinidazole > > > > but not> > enough information at this time."> > > > > > > > Eve> > Greenberg also reviewed the 2006 Energy Medicine meeting in an > article titled Treating> > Lyme Disease, published by EXPLORE. The article is at > neuraltherapy. com.> > Eve Greenberg quoted a California LLMD: "The cysts are heat, > pressure and> > oxygen resistant. The cysts> > are resistant to all antibiotics except tinadazole, metronidazole > and> > hydroxychloroquinin e." > > > > > > > > Neither> > author noted this contradiction. Which LLMD is correct? > > > > > > > > Has> > anyone "gotten well" by taking cysteine AND an > > antimicrobial such as niacin or herbal antimicrobials? Has anyone> > "gotten well" by taking an antiprotozoa drug such as flagyl, > tinadazole or> > alinia with or without simultaneously taking an antibiotic or > herbal> > antimicrobial? Flagyl is a brand name of metronidazole. > > > > > > > > "Gotten> > well" is ambiguous as a patient may be asymptomatic but still > infectious. > > > > Lets> > define "gotten well" as infection free, evidenced by a Labcorp CD > 57 test or an> > IgeneX three day urine follow up lyme test. This is a different > test than> > IgeneX's lyme blood test. Yahoo introduced polling as a new > feature. Could we> > set up a poll?> > > > > > > > Three> > days ago, I asked the staff of the California LLMD whether a > follow up test is> > ordered after several months of antibiotic and antiparastic > treatment. I also asked the general outcome of the> > follow up tests. Staff instructed me to make an appointment to ask > these> > questions. The 1 1 /2 hour appointment is $525. $525 is expensive > to risk not> > receiving the answers.> > > > > > > > I cannot> > find literature by any other LLMD prescribing anything else to > break the cyst> > wall. > > > > > > > > I heard> > grape seed extract penetrates the cyst wall. However, searching > this on the> > internet brings nothing up.> > > > > > > > In the> > article titled Beyond Antibiotics at neuraltherapy. com, the > Washington LLMD> > prescribed niacin as an antimicrobial. Has anyone had success > taking niacin to> > eradicate lyme?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Here's the homeopathic scoop on strep, in my Inbox this AM. Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:47 PM Subject: Natural Health Newsletter: R Neustaedter OMD; Sore Throats and Strep Natural Health Newsletter Randall Neustaedter OMD Sore Throats Throat pain accompanies colds, allergies, and strep infections. The tonsils may be swollen, red, and pitted with yellow pus. Lymph nodes below the jaw tend to get swollen as well. Fever and other cold symptoms may also accompany the sore throat. A high fever, as much as 104°, may signify strep throat, which is generally more severe than viral sore throats, takes longer to go away, and is occasionally accompanied by a rash. In other respects the symptoms can be similar and even indistinguishable unless a throat culture is obtained. Antibiotics for strep? Most pediatricians will insist on treating strep throats with antibiotics. The specific organism is Group A beta-hemolytic streptococcus. The effect of antibiotics on the recovery from strep throats has been controversial, with early studies showing no effect on symptoms (Brink, 1951; Denny, 1953) and later studies showing dramatic improvement (Randolph, 1985). The second reason doctors treat strep with antibiotics is because they can prevent one of the complications of strep throats, namely acute rheumatic fever (ARF), which commonly damages heart valves and can prove fatal. Antibiotics do not seem to prevent some other complications, specifically toxic shock syndrome or kidney infections (Weinstein, 1971). However, the incidence of rheumatic fever has decreased dramatically since the age when thousands of people died every year from rheumatic fever. In the late 1940s, 200,000 people per year developed rheumatic fever. That incidence began declining prior to the availability of antibiotics and ARF has nearly disappeared since the 1970s. Pockets of ARF occur sporadically in various small areas of the country, but by and large rheumatic fever is now a disease of the past. Apparently, the strains of the bacteria that have an affinity for attacking the heart simply do not occur anymore except in rare isolated instances (Markowitz, 1998; Stollerman, 1990). Once upon a time antibiotics prevented ARF that followed strep throats, but now the disease has virtually disappeared despite the fact that most sore throats do not get treated. In fact most cases of ARF now have no history of a preceding sore throat. None of this would be an issue if antibiotics had no side effects. The problem is that they do. Antibiotics disrupt the immune system, and kill beneficial bacteria along with the pathogens. Antibiotics also tend to create resistant strains of bacteria so that they do not work effectively when they are really needed. A further complicating issue is that strep bacteria typically do not disappear from the throat following a course of antibiotics. The bacteria will persist even after signs of the infection have disappeared. If a throat culture is taken at some later date, the bacteria will still be present and another antibiotic prescription will follow even though there is no active infection. Finally, studies have shown that when antibiotics are given for strep throat the infection tends to recur more often than when they are not prescribed. I do not recommend antibiotics for strep throat unless there are an unusual number of documented RF cases caused by strep bacteria in the community, or if the patient has pre-existing heart disease. I agree with pediatrician Mendelsohn who wrote as long ago as 1984: * Both throat cultures and antibiotics are to be avoided, because the hazards of treatment outweigh the remote possibility that your child will suffer any lasting effects even if he has a strep infection (Mendelsohn, 1984). * Treatment Homeopathic treatment is usually extremely effective in relieving the symptoms of sore throats and stimulating a complete and quick recovery. Strep throats may take longer to resolve than viral sore throats. Belladonna is the first medicine to prescribe when the throat is inflamed, red, and painful with few other symptoms besides fever. Mercurius (vivus or solubilis) is by far the most frequently indicated medicine for children's sore throats. Characteristic symptoms include a bad odor from the mouth, an increase in saliva production with drooling in younger children, swollen lymph nodes, and irritability. The third medicine is Phytolacca when the throat feels swollen or constricted on swallowing and the lymph nodes are swollen, but the typical Mercurius symptoms of salivation and bad odor are absent. Symptomatic treatment includes eating frozen things (juice popsicles or ice chips), sucking on zinc lozenges, and for older children, gargling with salt water. Give vitamin C and Echinacea as for Colds. Give Windbreaker or Yin Chao Junior. Acupuncture Massage Massage the ring finger on the palm side from the tip to the base in one direction only. Massage along a line in the center of the inside of the forearm from the wrist to the elbow in one direction only. Press on a point at the soft junction of the thumb and index finger Massage the two points at the back of the neck in the hollows on either side of the bony prominence at the base of the skull. References can be found in Dr. Neustaedter's book, Child Health Guide. Plastic Bags I had several questions in response to the last newsletter about what to do for garbage bags. You can get biodegradable garbage bags at most large health food stores and use those instead of plastic. They are made from corn and degrade simply in the landfills. Randall Neustaedter OMD Classical Medicine Center 1779 Woodside Rd, 201C Redwood City, CA 94061 +1 650 299-9170 If you have questions or feedback contact me at: randalln@... To view all previous newsletter articles go to: www.Cure-Guide.com/Newsletter <http://Cure-Guide.com/Natural_Health_Newsletter/natural_health_newsletter.html> Feel free to forward this newsletter to friends and colleagues. They can subscribe using this link <http://www.cure-guide.com/MySubscribe/mysubscribe.html?from=Newsletter> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote an article titled . . . . A Unique Healer. The article is a > > Recap of > > > Energy Medicine 2006 Annual Meeting. This article is at > > betterhealthguy.com > > > > conferences. quoted a Washington LLMD: > > > > > > > > > > > > " There > > > is no effective and proven way to kill cysts. Flagyl and > > Tinidazole > > > > > > only > > > anecdotally work but Dr. Klinghardt does not generally find them > > to > > > > > > be > > > highly useful. There is some information which may suggest that > > the > > > > > > amino > > > acid cysteine may crack cysts better than Flagyl and Tinidazole > > > > > > but not > > > enough information at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Eve > > > Greenberg also reviewed the 2006 Energy Medicine meeting in an > > article titled Treating > > > Lyme Disease, published by EXPLORE. The article is at > > neuraltherapy.com. > > > Eve Greenberg quoted a California LLMD: " The cysts are heat, > > pressure and > > > oxygen resistant. The cysts > > > are resistant to all antibiotics except tinadazole, metronidazole > > and > > > hydroxychloroquinine. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither > > > author noted this contradiction. Which LLMD is correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > Has > > > anyone " gotten well " by taking cysteine AND an > > > antimicrobial such as niacin or herbal antimicrobials? Has anyone > > > " gotten well " by taking an antiprotozoa drug such as flagyl, > > tinadazole or > > > alinia with or without simultaneously taking an antibiotic or > > herbal > > > antimicrobial? Flagyl is a brand name of metronidazole. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Gotten > > > well " is ambiguous as a patient may be asymptomatic but still > > infectious. > > > > > > Lets > > > define " gotten well " as infection free, evidenced by a Labcorp CD > > 57 test or an > > > IgeneX three day urine follow up lyme test. This is a different > > test than > > > IgeneX's lyme blood test. Yahoo introduced polling as a new > > feature. Could we > > > set up a poll? > > > > > > > > > > > > Three > > > days ago, I asked the staff of the California LLMD whether a > > follow up test is > > > ordered after several months of antibiotic and antiparastic > > treatment. I also asked the general outcome of the > > > follow up tests. Staff instructed me to make an appointment to > ask > > these > > > questions. The 1 1 /2 hour appointment is $525. $525 is expensive > > to risk not > > > receiving the answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot > > > find literature by any other LLMD prescribing anything else to > > break the cyst > > > wall. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard > > > grape seed extract penetrates the cyst wall. However, searching > > this on the > > > internet brings nothing up. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the > > > article titled Beyond Antibiotics at neuraltherapy.com, the > > Washington LLMD > > > prescribed niacin as an antimicrobial. Has anyone had success > > taking niacin to > > > eradicate lyme? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 We use Samento/Olive Leaf Extract and Cumanda. I hear gargling with raw garlic, helps. We tried, but my child couldn't handle the strong taste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote an article titled . . . . A Unique Healer. The article is a > > Recap of > > > Energy Medicine 2006 Annual Meeting. This article is at > > betterhealthguy.com > > > > conferences. quoted a Washington LLMD: > > > > > > > > > > > > " There > > > is no effective and proven way to kill cysts. Flagyl and > > Tinidazole > > > > > > only > > > anecdotally work but Dr. Klinghardt does not generally find them > > to > > > > > > be > > > highly useful. There is some information which may suggest that > > the > > > > > > amino > > > acid cysteine may crack cysts better than Flagyl and Tinidazole > > > > > > but not > > > enough information at this time. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Eve > > > Greenberg also reviewed the 2006 Energy Medicine meeting in an > > article titled Treating > > > Lyme Disease, published by EXPLORE. The article is at > > neuraltherapy.com. > > > Eve Greenberg quoted a California LLMD: " The cysts are heat, > > pressure and > > > oxygen resistant. The cysts > > > are resistant to all antibiotics except tinadazole, metronidazole > > and > > > hydroxychloroquinine. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither > > > author noted this contradiction. Which LLMD is correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > Has > > > anyone " gotten well " by taking cysteine AND an > > > antimicrobial such as niacin or herbal antimicrobials? Has anyone > > > " gotten well " by taking an antiprotozoa drug such as flagyl, > > tinadazole or > > > alinia with or without simultaneously taking an antibiotic or > > herbal > > > antimicrobial? Flagyl is a brand name of metronidazole. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Gotten > > > well " is ambiguous as a patient may be asymptomatic but still > > infectious. > > > > > > Lets > > > define " gotten well " as infection free, evidenced by a Labcorp CD > > 57 test or an > > > IgeneX three day urine follow up lyme test. This is a different > > test than > > > IgeneX's lyme blood test. Yahoo introduced polling as a new > > feature. Could we > > > set up a poll? > > > > > > > > > > > > Three > > > days ago, I asked the staff of the California LLMD whether a > > follow up test is > > > ordered after several months of antibiotic and antiparastic > > treatment. I also asked the general outcome of the > > > follow up tests. Staff instructed me to make an appointment to > ask > > these > > > questions. The 1 1 /2 hour appointment is $525. $525 is expensive > > to risk not > > > receiving the answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot > > > find literature by any other LLMD prescribing anything else to > > break the cyst > > > wall. > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard > > > grape seed extract penetrates the cyst wall. However, searching > > this on the > > > internet brings nothing up. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the > > > article titled Beyond Antibiotics at neuraltherapy.com, the > > Washington LLMD > > > prescribed niacin as an antimicrobial. Has anyone had success > > taking niacin to > > > eradicate lyme? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 What about Usnea tincture? Works great for Staph and Strep! Health, Hope, Joy & Healing : May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3 2 Ruby Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. http://www.rubysemporium.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/ http://www.lazrpulsr.com ______________________________________________ «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ Re: Rita: treating strep > We use Samento/Olive Leaf Extract and Cumanda. > I hear gargling with raw garlic, helps. We tried, but my child > couldn't handle the strong taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Thank you all!...great posts and suggestions. I have a couple of thoughts to add: 1) In regards to the comment about not having had strep but being high in labs....join the club. There are many layers that we have been through both bacteria and viral that we (, husband or I) have never had that we knew of, and none of us have never been in an state of actual illness....yet it showed up in . I've had to dig through all my paperwork to find my strep layer notes..we've been in a viral/metal layer for so long it's hard to remember. 2) DA talked about this in her TACA presentation: under Tonsils/Biotoxins: • Chronically infected tonsils are often a major contributing problem in brain inflammation/autism/autoimmunity • Degenerated tonsils often house multiple bacterial and viral colonies and produce potent brain neurotoxins • Strep related brain autoimmunity symptoms in autism: verbal stims, repetitive, ritualistic, obsessive-compulsive She stated A LOT of the problem you can not see on the surface, it's buried deep in the tonsils. Treating the tonsils (these are also treatments for chronic strep) • Pleo Not, Pleo San Strep and/or Pleo San Pseu (5 drops BID-TID for 6 weeks to treat acute infection, followed with Pleo Sancom for up to 1 year) • Reduce food allergens, especially dairy • Lymph drainage remedies like Heel's Lymphomyosot, Lymph Stim Liquescence or Transformation Enzyme's LDrain are helpful • Manual Lymph drainage or a rebounder There's more see the presentation in the file. Some of the things tested best for and we have successfully used are LED laser detox/w laser supports, Pleo Not (a couple of times), Pleo San Strep (with Pleo Not one of the times), Ginko/OLE, Super Immune + (L-lysine, OLE, Astragulas Root....we're back on this right now), LDM-100, Mb12 etc In addition to much immune support which has included A LOT of glyconutrients (his body LOVED), Transfactor Multi-immune, Thymactiv, enzymes and many other immune supports. Just like Lyme and deep seeded viruses, you don't tackle them overnight, they may resurface (especially like right now when it is going around the schools) and you just keep plugging away trying to kill as much as you can. I don't believe I've eradicated it all...but it's not my current stress either...he's such a metals and viral kid. I do encourage you...it's getting better all the time for us. All my best! Rita > > > > Hi Rita, > > > > Can you tell me how you are treating strep? This is a problem with > > my son and I and it is not resolving by treating borrelia, babesia > > and bartonella. Thanks. > > > > Caryn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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