hey ... im terry

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i have fibromyalgia and need help finding things to help ease the pain

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Hi Terry,

I just came back from visiting the small town in South Carolina where

I lived 30 years. Virtually all the women who live there are

diagnosed with fibro. Guess what the ticks in that area carry? - a

rickettsia called Rocky Mt. Spotted Fever. Dr. Jadin suggests that

fibro is caused by this infection and also leads to bipolar

disorders. Many of the women in that small town are depressed and

anxious - nothing like their mothers' generation.

Where do you live and have you been tested for infections or treated

with antibiotics? I hope we can help you with your fibro.

a Carnes

Here is one article on this issue.

!999 FM associated with rickettsia, CL Jadin

Bipolar disorder common in fibromyalgia patients

31 August 2006

J Clin Psychiatry 2006; 67: 1219–1225

Fibromyalgia, a condition characterised by long-term, widespread pain

and fatigue in muscles and soft tissues, is significantly associated

with bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders, eating disorders and

substance use disorders, researchers have found

For their study, Dr Lesley Arnold, from the University of Cincinnati

in Ohio, USA, and team assessed the prevalence of psychiatric

disorders among 78 fibromyalgia patients and 146 of their relatives,

along with 40 rheumatoid arthritis patients and 72 of their relatives.

Among relatives in both groups, there were 30 cases of fibromyalgia,

bringing the total number of individuals with the condition to 108.

The researchers found that patients with fibromyalgia were

significantly more likely to suffer from psychiatric conditions than

those without the disorder.

Indeed, analysis revealed that fibromyalgia patients were 153.0 times

more likely to suffer from bipolar disorder, 6.7 times more likely to

have anxiety disorder, 3.3 times more likely to have a substance

disorder, 2.7 times more likely to have depressive disorder and 2.4

times more likely to have an eating disorder than those without the

condition.

The researchers note that the increased prevalence of bipolar

disorder among fibromyalgia patients has serious

implications " because antidepressants that are often used to treat

fibromyalgia may precipitate hypomanic, manic, or mixed episodes in

predisposed individuals who have existing or latent bipolar disorder " .

Writing in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, Dr Arnold and team

conclude: " Given the frequent comorbidity [co-occurrence] of

fibromyalgia with psychiatric disorders, clinicians should be alerted

to inquire about these conditions when evaluating and treating

patients with fibromyalgia. "

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> i have fibromyalgia and need help finding things to help ease the

pain

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oh sorry forgot the part bout infections .. i havent had any kind of infections in yrs .. i get blood work done alot and none have shown up . antibodics only before and during surgeries to keep me from gettin an infection

thanks terry

have a great day ..... keep smiling .... its contagious

countrycharm

From: "pjeanneus" <pj7@...>Reply-infections To: infections Subject: [infections] Re: hey ... im terryDate: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:56:42 -0000

Hi Terry,I just came back from visiting the small town in South Carolina where I lived 30 years. Virtually all the women who live there are diagnosed with fibro. Guess what the ticks in that area carry? - a rickettsia called Rocky Mt. Spotted Fever. Dr. Jadin suggests that fibro is caused by this infection and also leads to bipolar disorders. Many of the women in that small town are depressed and anxious - nothing like their mothers' generation. Where do you live and have you been tested for infections or treated with antibiotics? I hope we can help you with your fibro.a CarnesHere is one article on this issue.!999 FM associated with rickettsia, CL JadinBipolar disorder common in fibromyalgia patients31 August 2006J Clin Psychiatry 2006; 67: 1219–1225Fibromyalgia, a condition characterised by long-term, widespread pain and fatigue in muscles and soft tissues, is significantly associated with bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders, eating disorders and substance use disorders, researchers have foundFor their study, Dr Lesley Arnold, from the University of Cincinnati in Ohio, USA, and team assessed the prevalence of psychiatric disorders among 78 fibromyalgia patients and 146 of their relatives, along with 40 rheumatoid arthritis patients and 72 of their relatives.Among relatives in both groups, there were 30 cases of fibromyalgia, bringing the total number of individuals with the condition to 108.The researchers found that patients with fibromyalgia were significantly more likely to suffer from psychiatric conditions than those without the disorder.Indeed, analysis revealed that fibromyalgia patients were 153.0 times more likely to suffer from bipolar disorder, 6.7 times more likely to have anxiety disorder, 3.3 times more likely to have a substance disorder, 2.7 times more likely to have depressive disorder and 2.4 times more likely to have an eating disorder than those without the condition.The researchers note that the increased prevalence of bipolar disorder among fibromyalgia patients has serious implications "because antidepressants that are often used to treat fibromyalgia may precipitate hypomanic, manic, or mixed episodes in predisposed individuals who have existing or latent bipolar disorder".Writing in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, Dr Arnold and team conclude: "Given the frequent comorbidity [co-occurrence] of fibromyalgia with psychiatric disorders, clinicians should be alerted to inquire about these conditions when evaluating and treating patients with fibromyalgia.">> i have fibromyalgia and need help finding things to help ease the pain>

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Hi Terry

A girl died here last week from meningococcal infection, and she was

also sent home from the hospital and told her blood work showed NO

INFECTION. I think when someone tells you that you have NO INFECTION

they are in la la land.Basically there's no real test in medicine that

can say NO INFECTION...

The blown blood vessels are an indicator of meningococcal infection,

and this observation is almost alway's too late to make in the

menigococcal ilness.Basically means there's some serious damage that is

either going to kill you, or give you a hard time recovering from.

tony

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Terry,

I understand. I got sick in 1995 and have had maybe five infections

since then in 11 years. But that is because I have an underlying

chronic infection or two that are very difficult to diagnose because

the lab tests are not too accurate.

Here is a link to just one example of this by a Dr. Jadin from South

Africa. She suggests that fibromyalgia may be caused by a rickettsia

infection. One US example of rickettsia is Rocky Mountain Spotted

Fever which is common in the south.

http://72.14.253.104/search?

q=cache:QM5fXNrb4PIJ:lassesen.com/cfids/documents/JADIN_Rickettsial.pd

f+fibromyalgia+rickettsia+jadin & hl=en & gl=us & ct=clnk & cd=1

5. The symptoms displayed by CFS, Fibromyalgia, RA, and even

neurological patients as MS, show the same diversity of symptoms as

Rickettsial patients. How many scientists blamed the diversity of

symptoms for misleading unprepared practitioners in the diagnosis of

chronicRickettsial infection (30)? That same diversity could have

contributed to the delay in recognising CFS. French authors (Giroud,

Jadin, Legag) attribute those multiple aspects to a generalized micro-

vascular invasion. They widely demonstrated the persistence of

Rickettsiae in the vessels (4), (18). The suggestion here is that the

well-known, well-documented entity of Rickettsial disease, showing

the same symptoms as the newly arrived CFS, might simply, partially

or totally be caused by the same agent.6. The last, but not the least

reason, is the success rate of the Rickettsia treatment,

Tetracycline, applied on CFS, Fibromyalgia, Depression and MS etc.

patients.

There is much more to this article, but I just posted the short

section linking fibro to rickettsia. Of course Lyme disease would

cause fibro type symptoms as well. I hope this gives you a starting

point to try to figure out what your " fibromyalgia " really is.

a Carnes