Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?

November 8, 2008

Darci

The name is Mark and ann Freimuth and there three beautiful children. You will leave the gift certificate at the customer service desk at Whole Foods? I will advise them of this and also your phone number. Thanks again for this kind gesture.

Darci,Thank you so much for the reply! Humm...just what I was wondering, key word "rebuilding" phase. We're going to keep an eye on how the kids are testing and when (the ONLY way we can keep track of this is through a group like this spearheading it). I'm interested to see what has to take place to have them test good on it. Disease and our kids are interesting, that's why ART is so important...no 2 kids are the same. I'm going to ask DA if she is seeing a trend in how the kids are testing. One of the 8 yo with Lyme issues just tested good for the water (not sure about the air...have to check). He had A LOT of issues when starting with her. He's been with her about 2 years and has pealed some pretty big layers off though. I think learning more the testing patterns will be very interesting. DE does great things with yeast issues with her cold lasers....has for several on our WA group. A lot of our WA group bill insurance and get DC coverage for it DE as well (except my bottom of the barrel insurance). Lorina has some great CE/cold laser stories on Zander as one of his big issues was yeast. Cold laser did things no other treatment did.We'll be up there Tues afternoon for our appt. The needy family (with 3 kids on the spectrum) will also be here starting this weekend...not sure their appt schedules though.Many blessing!Rita> > >> > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know the > duty > > for it.> > > > > > Tami Duncan> > > > > > President and Co-Founder> > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound> > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/> ation.org/>> ation.org/) > > > > > > Donate to our "Operation Knowledge" which offers scholarships to > > parents to > > > attend our 2009 conference. > > > _https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_ > > > (https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384) > > > > > > > > > Join our online support group at: > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn> > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%> 40yahoogroups.com> > > fectionsAndAutism-> <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>> subscribe _ > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult> <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism-> ipleinfectionsandautism-> />> > ipleinfectionsandautism-> > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Natasa;> > > > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US was > > the > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...> > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes > > and all other > > > Holiday needs. Search Now. > > > (http://pr.atwola.> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> > redir=http://searchblog.> > <http://searchblog.> <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from> > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while you > browse> > with the Games Toolbar - Download> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?> redir> > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>> aol.com/games/download.html?> ncid=emlweusdown00000004>> > Now!> >>

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November 8, 2008

, yes, I'll leave the gift certificate at the customer service desk at Whole Foods and have them hold it until Tuesday. Thanks !

-----Original Message-----From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of FieberSent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:20 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?

Darci

The name is Mark and ann Freimuth and there three beautiful children. You will leave the gift certificate at the customer service desk at Whole Foods? I will advise them of this and also your phone number. Thanks again for this kind gesture.

Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?

Darci,Thank you so much for the reply! Humm...just what I was wondering, key word "rebuilding" phase. We're going to keep an eye on how the kids are testing and when (the ONLY way we can keep track of this is through a group like this spearheading it). I'm interested to see what has to take place to have them test good on it. Disease and our kids are interesting, that's why ART is so important...no 2 kids are the same. I'm going to ask DA if she is seeing a trend in how the kids are testing. One of the 8 yo with Lyme issues just tested good for the water (not sure about the air...have to check). He had A LOT of issues when starting with her. He's been with her about 2 years and has pealed some pretty big layers off though. I think learning more the testing patterns will be very interesting. DE does great things with yeast issues with her cold lasers....has for several on our WA group. A lot of our WA group bill insurance and get DC coverage for it DE as well (except my bottom of the barrel insurance). Lorina has some great CE/cold laser stories on Zander as one of his big issues was yeast. Cold laser did things no other treatment did.We'll be up there Tues afternoon for our appt. The needy family (with 3 kids on the spectrum) will also be here starting this weekend...not sure their appt schedules though.Many blessing!Rita> > >> > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know the > duty > > for it.> > > > > > Tami Duncan> > > > > > President and Co-Founder> > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound> > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/> ation.org/>> ation.org/) > > > > > > Donate to our "Operation Knowledge" which offers scholarships to > > parents to > > > attend our 2009 conference. > > > _https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_ > > > (https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384) > > > > > > > > > Join our online support group at: > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn> > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%> 40yahoogroups.com> > > fectionsAndAutism-> <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>> subscribe _ > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult> <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism-> ipleinfectionsandautism-> />> > ipleinfectionsandautism-> > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Natasa;> > > > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US was > > the > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...> > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes > > and all other > > > Holiday needs. Search Now. > > > (http://pr.atwola.> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> > redir=http://searchblog.> > <http://searchblog.> <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from> > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while you > browse> > with the Games Toolbar - Download> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?> redir> > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>> aol.com/games/download.html?> ncid=emlweusdown00000004>> > Now!> >>

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November 9, 2008

Darci, Gayatri,

I just came back from Dr. TW's SF workshop tonight. I asked him what the

good timing might be to add Valkion therapy in our case. I told him that I

believe Ingvar currently has a whole load of pathogens. He said that he

will first use homeopathic Conductance to treat Ingvar to make sure his

energy flow is good. Then treat parasites, if parasites are of an issue.

Thirdly, build up immune system and switch it to Th1 response to fight

viruses and intracellular bacteria. Then, it might be a good timing to

introduce Valkion.

This is a very similar viewpoint to what Gayatri states below.

Limin

--------------------------------------------------

Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 13:49

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order -

Canadians?

> On rebuilding I would think that it begins when the immune system is

> strong enough that it does not keep skewing to a Th1 inflammatory

> response everytime it encounters a viral pathogen coming to the

> surface. In other words, the body would be in a decent state from the

> point of view of oxidative stress and inflammation.

>

> Gayatri

>

>> > > >

>> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know the

>> > duty

>> > > for it.

>> > > >

>> > > > Tami Duncan

>> > > >

>> > > > President and Co-Founder

>> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound

>> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/> ation.org/>

>> > ation.org/)

>> > > >

>> > > > Donate to our " Operation Knowledge " which offers scholarships

>> to

>> > > parents to

>> > > > attend our 2009 conference.

>> > > > _https://www. <https://www.

>> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

>> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_

>> > > > (https://www. <https://www.

>> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

>> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)

>> > > >

>> > > > Join our online support group at:

>> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn

>> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%

>> > 40yahoogroups.com

>> > > > fectionsAndAutism-

>> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

>> > subscribe _

>> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult

>> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->

>> ipleinfectionsandautism-

>> > />

>> > > ipleinfectionsandautism-

>> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

>> ps.com/)

>> > > >

>> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard

>> Time,

>> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:

>> > > >

>> > > > Hi Natasa;

>> > > >

>> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US

>> was

>> > > the

>> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...

>> > > >

>> > > > Kim

>> > > >

>> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions,

>> recipes

>> > > and all other

>> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.

>> > > > (http://pr.atwola.

>> > > <http://pr.atwola.

>> > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> >

>> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> > >

>> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> > > redir=http://searchblog.

>> > > <http://searchblog.

>> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

>> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

>> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from

>> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > > _____

>> > >

>> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while you

>> > browse

>> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download

>> > > <http://pr.atwola.

>> > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

>> >

>> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

>> > redir

>> > > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>

>> > aol.com/games/download.html?

>> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>

>> > > Now!

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

November 9, 2008

Hi Limin and Gayatri,

I am trying to understand this better. Isn't the valkion going to

help with reducing inflammation and helping to normalize the body's

immune system? Will it cause harm if introduced early?

As is the case with most kids on the spectrum, my kid also has a lot

of pathogen issues with Lyme, parasites being one of the main

stressors at this time, apart from heavy metals etc. Inspite of that,

Dr A recommends that we start valkion. (it also muscle tests good for

him.) Would it not be advisable to use it in conjunction with other

treatments against pathogens?

Also, I always wondered if the valkion or HBOT therapy could make a

bacterial condition worse if the kid had lot of aerobic bacteria in

the gut?

Thanks very much

Rohini

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know

the

> >> > duty

> >> > > for it.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Tami Duncan

> >> > > >

> >> > > > President and Co-Founder

> >> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound

> >> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/>

ation.org/>

> >> > ation.org/)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Donate to our " Operation Knowledge " which offers

scholarships

> >> to

> >> > > parents to

> >> > > > attend our 2009 conference.

> >> > > > _https://www. <https://www.

> >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_

> >> > > > (https://www. <https://www.

> >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Join our online support group at:

> >> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn

> >> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%

> >> > 40yahoogroups.com

> >> > > > fectionsAndAutism-

> >> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> >> > subscribe _

> >> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult

> >> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->

> >> ipleinfectionsandautism-

> >> > />

> >> > > ipleinfectionsandautism-

> >> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> >> ps.com/)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard

> >> Time,

> >> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Hi Natasa;

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US

> >> was

> >> > > the

> >> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Kim

> >> > > >

> >> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions,

> >> recipes

> >> > > and all other

> >> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.

> >> > > > (http://pr.atwola.

> >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> >> >

<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> >> >

> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> >> > >

> >> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> >> > > redir=http://searchblog.

> >> > > <http://searchblog.

> >> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> >> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> >> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from

> >> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> > > _____

> >> > >

> >> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while

you

> >> > browse

> >> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download

> >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> >> >

<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> >> >

> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> >> > redir

> >> > > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?

>

> >> > aol.com/games/download.html?

> >> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>

> >> > > Now!

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

November 9, 2008

Rohini,

I do not have sufficient knowledge and experience to answer your question

below, as I have not extensively looked into Valkion. I can share Dr. TW's

view with you. He did not think that Valkion will cause any harm when a

child still has a whole load of pathogens. He mainly told me that he does

not think that in our case Ingvar can take much advantage of Valkion. He

believed that making sure Ingvar's energy flow is unblocked, treating him

for parasites, and boosting his immune system have a higher priority.

As for HBOT, I considered it in the past and decided to wait on it, because

of Ingvar's persistent overgrowth of Klebsiella oxytoca. There are studies

shown the relationship between oxygen supply and Klebsiella growth.

Klebsiella thrives on oxygen.

Limin

--------------------------------------------------

Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 08:57

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order -

Canadians?

> Hi Limin and Gayatri,

>

> I am trying to understand this better. Isn't the valkion going to

> help with reducing inflammation and helping to normalize the body's

> immune system? Will it cause harm if introduced early?

> As is the case with most kids on the spectrum, my kid also has a lot

> of pathogen issues with Lyme, parasites being one of the main

> stressors at this time, apart from heavy metals etc. Inspite of that,

> Dr A recommends that we start valkion. (it also muscle tests good for

> him.) Would it not be advisable to use it in conjunction with other

> treatments against pathogens?

> Also, I always wondered if the valkion or HBOT therapy could make a

> bacterial condition worse if the kid had lot of aerobic bacteria in

> the gut?

>

> Thanks very much

> Rohini

>

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know

> the

>> >> > duty

>> >> > > for it.

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Tami Duncan

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > President and Co-Founder

>> >> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound

>> >> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/>

> ation.org/>

>> >> > ation.org/)

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Donate to our " Operation Knowledge " which offers

> scholarships

>> >> to

>> >> > > parents to

>> >> > > > attend our 2009 conference.

>> >> > > > _https://www. <https://www.

>> >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

>> >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_

>> >> > > > (https://www. <https://www.

>> >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

>> >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

>> >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Join our online support group at:

>> >> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn

>> >> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%

>> >> > 40yahoogroups.com

>> >> > > > fectionsAndAutism-

>> >> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

>> >> > subscribe _

>> >> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult

>> >> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->

>> >> ipleinfectionsandautism-

>> >> > />

>> >> > > ipleinfectionsandautism-

>> >> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

>> >> ps.com/)

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard

>> >> Time,

>> >> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Hi Natasa;

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US

>> >> was

>> >> > > the

>> >> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > Kim

>> >> > > >

>> >> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions,

>> >> recipes

>> >> > > and all other

>> >> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.

>> >> > > > (http://pr.atwola.

>> >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

>> >> >

> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> >> >

>> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> >> > >

>> >> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

>> >> > > redir=http://searchblog.

>> >> > > <http://searchblog.

>> >> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

>> >> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

>> >> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from

>> >> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

>> >> > > >

>> >> > >

>> >> > > _____

>> >> > >

>> >> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while

> you

>> >> > browse

>> >> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download

>> >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

>> >> >

> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

>> >> >

>> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

>> >> > redir

>> >> > > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?

>>

>> >> > aol.com/games/download.html?

>> >> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>

>> >> > > Now!

>> >> > >

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

November 9, 2008

Yes, I believe that is consistent with how Dr. A feels. Thanks for the confirmation...

Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?> On rebuilding I would think that it begins when the immune system is> strong enough that it does not keep skewing to a Th1 inflammatory> response everytime it encounters a viral pathogen coming to the> surface. In other words, the body would be in a decent state from the> point of view of oxidative stress and inflammation.>> Gayatri>> >> > > >>> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know the>> > duty>> > > for it.>> > > >>> > > > Tami Duncan>> > > >>> > > > President and Co-Founder>> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound>> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/> ation.org/>>> > ation.org/)>> > > >>> > > > Donate to our "Operation Knowledge" which offers scholarships>> to>> > > parents to>> > > > attend our 2009 conference.>> > > > _https://www. <https://www.>> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>>> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>>> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_>> > > > (https://www. <https://www.>> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>>> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>>> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Join our online support group at:>> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn>> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%>> > 40yahoogroups.com>> > > > fectionsAndAutism->> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>>> > subscribe _>> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult>> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->>> ipleinfectionsandautism->> > />>> > > ipleinfectionsandautism->> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>>> ps.com/)>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard>> Time,>> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Hi Natasa;>> > > >>> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US>> was>> > > the>> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...>> > > >>> > > > Kim>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions,>> recipes>> > > and all other>> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.>> > > > (http://pr.atwola.>> > > <http://pr.atwola.>> > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> >>> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> > >>> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> > > redir=http://searchblog.>> > > <http://searchblog.>> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>>> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>>> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > _____>> > >>> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while you>> > browse>> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download>> > > <http://pr.atwola.>> > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?>> >>> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?>> > redir>> > > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>>> > aol.com/games/download.html?>> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>>> > > Now!>> > >>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

November 9, 2008

Rohini, if the doctor has given you clearance to begin using the

Valkion, by all means go ahead and use it. Looking at the use from a

parental perspective, when my son brings up viruses in particular, his

whole body gets inflamed - I recognize the signs as being very

irritable and cranky and whiny, he becomes oppositional, emotional,

unable to rationalize with and deal with. Physically his face looks

swollen, the skin is shiny, he goes red in general (ears, eyes) and

his eyes are watery, and he is sneezing. To my mind, adding oxygen to

this mix would be like fanning the fire. His pathogen load is fairly

high or his immune system is not strong enough to deal with this. When

his infection load is lower so that he does not have to deal with

bodywide inflammation each time this happens would be a good time, I

think, to add in the Valkion.

I think each child would present this critical point differently,

given the unique genetics. I know when this happens I have to add in

additional anti-virals, I need to add back Boswellia, I need to add in

Vitamin D-3. I muscle test to see what I need to add in or drop off at

these times.

Hope this helps. If you keep in mind that the primary objective is the

achievement of balance in the body (and not so much pathogen and heavy

metal removal), it might somewhat help reduce the pressure on you as a

parent as to what you are up against, and where and how far you need

to go.

Gayatri

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know

> the

> > >> > duty

> > >> > > for it.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Tami Duncan

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > President and Co-Founder

> > >> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound

> > >> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/>

> ation.org/>

> > >> > ation.org/)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Donate to our " Operation Knowledge " which offers

> scholarships

> > >> to

> > >> > > parents to

> > >> > > > attend our 2009 conference.

> > >> > > > _https://www. <https://www.

> > >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> > >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_

> > >> > > > (https://www. <https://www.

> > >> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > >> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > >> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> > >> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Join our online support group at:

> > >> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn

> > >> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%

> > >> > 40yahoogroups.com

> > >> > > > fectionsAndAutism-

> > >> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > >> > subscribe _

> > >> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult

> > >> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->

> > >> ipleinfectionsandautism-

> > >> > />

> > >> > > ipleinfectionsandautism-

> > >> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > >> ps.com/)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard

> > >> Time,

> > >> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Hi Natasa;

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US

> > >> was

> > >> > > the

> > >> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Kim

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions,

> > >> recipes

> > >> > > and all other

> > >> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.

> > >> > > > (http://pr.atwola.

> > >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> > >> >

> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> > >> >

> > >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> > >> > > redir=http://searchblog.

> > >> > > <http://searchblog.

> > >> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> > >> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> > >> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from

> > >> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

> > >> > > >

> > >> > >

> > >> > > _____

> > >> > >

> > >> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while

> you

> > >> > browse

> > >> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download

> > >> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> > >> >

> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> > >> >

> > >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> > >> > redir

> > >> > > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?

> >

> > >> > aol.com/games/download.html?

> > >> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>

> > >> > > Now!

> > >> > >

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

November 9, 2008

,

I'm working on some right now for their office. I will be bringing

it with my at our appt this Tues...3:30DA 4:00DE.

I'm glad you found a place for them...and THANK YOU Darci!!

, let Darci, Lorina & I know off-list if you will be here from

OR for one of their appts. Would like to meet up with you and

personally say thank you for your extra help, our community very

much appreciates those that go the extra mile to help a family in

need. Thanks Again!!

Rita

> > > >

> > > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they

know the

> > duty

> > > for it.

> > > >

> > > > Tami Duncan

> > > >

> > > > President and Co-Founder

> > > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound

> > > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/>

ation.org/>

> > ation.org/)

> > > >

> > > > Donate to our " Operation Knowledge " which offers

scholarships

> to

> > > parents to

> > > > attend our 2009 conference.

> > > > _https://www. <https://www.

> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_

> > > > (https://www. <https://www.

> > <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>

> > > causes.com/fb/donations/new?

> > > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384)

> > > >

> > > > Join our online support group at:

> > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn

> > > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%

> > 40yahoogroups.com

> > > > fectionsAndAutism-

> > <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > subscribe _

> > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult

> > <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism->

> ipleinfectionsandautism-

> > />

> > > ipleinfectionsandautism-

> > > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>

> ps.com/)

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific

Standard

> Time,

> > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Natasa;

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that

Biotools US

> was

> > > the

> > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...

> > > >

> > > > Kim

> > > >

> > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for

directions,

> recipes

> > > and all other

> > > > Holiday needs. Search Now.

> > > > (http://pr.atwola.

> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> >

<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> >

> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> > >

> > > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?

> > > redir=http://searchblog.

> > > <http://searchblog.

> > <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>

> > > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from

> > > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

> > > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games

while you

> > browse

> > > with the Games Toolbar - Download

> > > <http://pr.atwola.

> >

<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> >

> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?

> > redir

> > > =http://toolbar.

<http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>

> > aol.com/games/download.html?

> > ncid=emlweusdown00000004>

> > > Now!

> > >

> >

>

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November 11, 2008

Rita and - the gift certificate is waiting for the family coming today I think- at Whole Foods at the Guest counter. I don't have access to the family's phone, but could you let them know Whole Foods would like them to pick it up as soon as possible. Many thanks, Darci

-----Original Message-----From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of FieberSent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:01 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?

Rita and Darci

The family will be seen starting on Tuesday morning with DA and then have several laser treatents from Dr. E. I was able to find housing for them that will be covered for them through the YWCA. They will be staying in one of the Homestead Hotels, which is part of the Extended Stay of America network. I would still like to know if someone can help them with some groceries as they will have a place to cook and store food.

Rita will you be able to provide any Valkion water if they test ok for it.

Thanks for your help

Re: WA vs OR -Valkion order - Canadians?

Darci,Thank you so much for the reply! Humm...just what I was wondering, key word "rebuilding" phase. We're going to keep an eye on how the kids are testing and when (the ONLY way we can keep track of this is through a group like this spearheading it). I'm interested to see what has to take place to have them test good on it. Disease and our kids are interesting, that's why ART is so important...no 2 kids are the same. I'm going to ask DA if she is seeing a trend in how the kids are testing. One of the 8 yo with Lyme issues just tested good for the water (not sure about the air...have to check). He had A LOT of issues when starting with her. He's been with her about 2 years and has pealed some pretty big layers off though. I think learning more the testing patterns will be very interesting. DE does great things with yeast issues with her cold lasers....has for several on our WA group. A lot of our WA group bill insurance and get DC coverage for it DE as well (except my bottom of the barrel insurance). Lorina has some great CE/cold laser stories on Zander as one of his big issues was yeast. Cold laser did things no other treatment did.We'll be up there Tues afternoon for our appt. The needy family (with 3 kids on the spectrum) will also be here starting this weekend...not sure their appt schedules though.Many blessing!Rita> > >> > > Kim...maybe you could call Biotools and ask if they know the > duty > > for it.> > > > > > Tami Duncan> > > > > > President and Co-Founder> > > _www.liafoundation.org_ (http://www.liafound> > <http://www.liafound <http://www.liafoundation.org/> ation.org/>> ation.org/) > > > > > > Donate to our "Operation Knowledge" which offers scholarships to > > parents to > > > attend our 2009 conference. > > > _https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384_ > > > (https://www. <https://www.> <https://www.causes.com/fb/donations/new?> causes.com/fb/donations/new?>> > causes.com/fb/donations/new?> > cause_id=134283 & fundraiser_id=23589275 & m=a8965384) > > > > > > > > > Join our online support group at: > > > _BorreliaMultipleIn> > <mailto:_BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism-subscribe%> 40yahoogroups.com> > > fectionsAndAutism-> <mailto:fectionsAndAutism-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com>> subscribe _ > > > (http://borreliamult <http://borreliamult> <http://borreliamultipleinfectionsandautism-> ipleinfectionsandautism-> />> > ipleinfectionsandautism-> > subscribe@yahoogrou <mailto:subscribe%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com/) > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/7/2008 9:51:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > > kimandglen.quinn@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Natasa;> > > > > > Yes, I emailed Sweden before and they said that Biotools US was > > the > > > distributor for Canada. Thanks for the input though...> > > > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes > > and all other > > > Holiday needs. Search Now. > > > (http://pr.atwola.> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> >> > com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?> > redir=http://searchblog.> > <http://searchblog.> <http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from>> > aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from> > > -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Instant access to the latest most popular FREE games while you > browse> > with the Games Toolbar - Download> > <http://pr.atwola.> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?>> com/promoclk/100000075x1212904500x1200818240/aol?> redir> > =http://toolbar. <http://toolbar.aol.com/games/download.html?>> aol.com/games/download.html?> ncid=emlweusdown00000004>> > Now!> >>

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