Re: Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

June 16, 2006

This time the south did not need the north

to defeat them. They have destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

Lapp, a world famous doctor in Charlotte,

NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

conference that Jemsek would go down.

Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and

face up to the reality that there is a massive epidemic of an infectious

disease in the south. People there who get “Lyme” disease are

labeled with cfids and fms. Then they are placed on klonopin and graded exercise

a la Cheney and Lapp, or, if they can afford it, they are told to join a local

pool and buy a $1,000 chair to bounce in to increase their blood flow.

Antibiotics are anathema.

If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a

prescription for an antibiotic for mycoplasma years before I knew I had

borrelia, and years before Jemsek knew people in the south had Lyme I would

still be completely incapacitated but still wandering around in my daffodil

garden getting tick bites.

My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her sofa.

She has been sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist decided to

try her on minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in her hands

went down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm folks. At fms

support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were dozens of cases of

MS.

Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS

conference the CDC representatives smirked and stated that the borrelia

infection found in the south causes a mild, self-limiting disease that only

lasts 3 weeks? Of course, the Quest lab tests are never positive for borrelia

in these cases. Makes one wonder where Jemsek was getting all his patients,

doesn’t it? Well, one would wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just

crucified him. I wonder what will happen in “three days” this time?

This is the end only if we allow it to be.

a

Carnes

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme cases

KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCHCHARLOTTEOBSERVER (DOT) COM

RALEIGH - The

N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend for one year the license of Dr.

ph Jemsek, determining he acted unprofessionally in his treatment of Lyme

disease patients.

The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from patients and medical

experts before the 12-member board, which had accused the Huntersville doctor

of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with Lyme disease and inappropriately

treating them antibiotics for months or years.

But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his treatment of AIDS

patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when he meets with the

board.

Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in which he treated the

10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by breaching informed

consent, the decision said.

Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since

1979, first at the Nalle Clinic in Charlotte

and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in Huntersville.

At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach to diagnosis and

treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists from New York and Connecticut

who supported Jemsek's contention that standard tests for Lyme disease are not

reliable and that long-term antibiotic treatment is necessary for patients with

chronic Lyme symptoms.

During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice has evolved over

the years and that his office recently began using a new four-page form to

explain to patients that his practice differs from the standard used by other

N.C. physicians.

He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board member Dr. Art

McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of taking care of one

of the 10 patients, , when she called to complain about symptoms

that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

, 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while she was under

Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of having catheters in

her arm and chest for delivering intravenous antibiotics for a year and a half.

When she called Jemsek's office about the last infection, she said a nurse told

her to take some antibiotics that were left from a previous infection. She was

later hospitalized with sepsis, and said she nearly died.

" I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on Thursday.

" That's not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system now.

He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme patients since 2000,

he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics if they have developed

one or two infections.

The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and angered by Jemsek's care

-- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut

internist who specializes in Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the

records of the 10 Jemsek patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's

diagnosis of all 10.

also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term antibiotic therapy

in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't prescribe intravenous antibiotics

in his practice, partly because of the risk of infection. When asked about

' case, said he would not have prescribed IV antibiotics for

her, especially because " it's not clear to me how much better she was

getting. "

is a past president of the International Lyme and Associated Diseases

Society, a group of several hundred doctors, including Jemsek, who specialize

in Lyme disease and who believe patients should be treated with antibiotics for

longer than the four weeks recommended in the guidelines of the larger and

older Infectious Diseases Society of America.

Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme disease research program

at Columbia University, described his recent

research to determine the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients

who continue to have symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10 weeks showed

significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that standard tests for

diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they said, a Lyme diagnosis

should also be based on the presence of certain symptoms, such as headache,

joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a physician, " your goal is to

help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful, then physicians need

to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

June 16, 2006

Article said in part:

QUOTE

The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from patients

and medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused the

Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with Lyme

disease and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or

years.

END QUOTE... and that's even with and Fallon testifying on

his behalf. This is very sad. And it will effect how other Lyme

Drs. practice.

Soooooooo I ask myself...

Then why can't the Docs be prosecuted who misdiagnosed me

with 'Chomplex autoimmune Disorder " and would have inappropriately

treated me with steriods?

And I answer myself........

Because the medical community has established strict protocols for

diagnosis, safety rules AND treatment for their brand of diagnosis

which results in the protection THEMSELVES more than their patients.

We have one size fits all diagnoses and treatment -

which may work for some percentage of people, but an enormously

large portion fall out side that group ( the very old, the chronicly

infected- and the ones they can't figure out what's wrong).

it's to hell with them (or any one who helps them) - give 'em prozac

and send in the next patient.

Jaded as always,

Barb

>

> http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

>

> Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme cases

> KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@...

> RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend for

one year the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

unprofessionally in his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

>

> The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from patients

and medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused the

Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with Lyme

disease and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or

years.

>

> But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his treatment

of AIDS patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when

he meets with the board.

>

> Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in which he

treated the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

breaching informed consent, the decision said.

>

> Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979, first at the

Nalle Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

Huntersville.

>

> At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach to

diagnosis and treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease

specialists from New York and Connecticut who supported Jemsek's

contention that standard tests for Lyme disease are not reliable and

that long-term antibiotic treatment is necessary for patients with

chronic Lyme symptoms.

>

> During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice has

evolved over the years and that his office recently began using a new

four-page form to explain to patients that his practice differs from

the standard used by other N.C. physicians.

>

> He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board member

Dr. Art McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of

taking care of one of the 10 patients, , when she

called to complain about symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis

infection.

>

> , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while she

was under Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of

having catheters in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous

antibiotics for a year and a half. When she called Jemsek's office

about the last infection, she said a nurse told her to take some

antibiotics that were left from a previous infection. She was later

hospitalized with sepsis, and said she nearly died.

>

> " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

Thursday. " That's not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better

system now.

>

> He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme patients

since 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics if

they have developed one or two infections.

>

> The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and angered by

Jemsek's care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

>

> On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist who

specializes in Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the

records of the 10 Jemsek patients in question, and he agreed with

Jemsek's diagnosis of all 10.

>

> also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term

antibiotic therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't

prescribe intravenous antibiotics in his practice, partly because of

the risk of infection. When asked about ' case, said

he would not have prescribed IV antibiotics for her, especially

because " it's not clear to me how much better she was getting. "

>

> is a past president of the International Lyme and

Associated Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors,

including Jemsek, who specialize in Lyme disease and who believe

patients should be treated with antibiotics for longer than the four

weeks recommended in the guidelines of the larger and older

Infectious Diseases Society of America.

>

> Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme disease

research program at Columbia University, described his recent

research to determine the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for

patients who continue to have symptoms after a short-term treatment

for Lyme disease.

>

> On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10 weeks

showed significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

>

> Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that

standard tests for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they

said, a Lyme diagnosis should also be based on the presence of

certain symptoms, such as headache, joint pain, memory loss and

confusion.

>

> Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a physician, " your

goal is to help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful,

then physicians need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

>

June 16, 2006

Yeah, too bad it's not standard medical procedure to

do some simple testing for the common infections that

became septic and almost killed the woman because

testing would have prevented all of this. But

NOOOOOO...we can't test for normal deadly bugs. Only

the ones we believe exist.

I feel sympathy for this doc, but not for medical

ignorance in general. They should all have their

licenses revoked. Maybe then they'd start paying

attention.

penny

--- Nelly Pointis <janel@...> wrote:

>

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

>

> Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent

> in Lyme cases

> KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@...

> RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to

> suspend for one year the license of Dr. ph

> Jemsek, determining he acted unprofessionally in his

> treatment of Lyme disease patients.

>

> The decision came after two days of hearing

> testimony from patients and medical experts before

> the 12-member board, which had accused the

> Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10

> patients with Lyme disease and inappropriately

> treating them antibiotics for months or years.

>

> But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for

> his treatment of AIDS patients, will maintain

> medical privileges until July, when he meets with

> the board.

>

> Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the

> manner in which he treated the 10 patients whose

> cases the board reviewed and also by breaching

> informed consent, the decision said.

>

> Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since

> 1979, first at the Nalle Clinic in Charlotte and

> since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in Huntersville.

>

> At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his

> approach to diagnosis and treatment. His lawyer

> called two Lyme disease specialists from New York

> and Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention

> that standard tests for Lyme disease are not

> reliable and that long-term antibiotic treatment is

> necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

>

> During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his

> practice has evolved over the years and that his

> office recently began using a new four-page form to

> explain to patients that his practice differs from

> the standard used by other N.C. physicians.

>

> He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte

> board member Dr. Art McCulloch, that his office

> could have done a better job of taking care of one

> of the 10 patients, , when she called

> to complain about symptoms that turned out to be a

> sepsis infection.

>

> , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday

> that, while she was under Jemsek's care, she

> developed five infections as a result of having

> catheters in her arm and chest for delivering

> intravenous antibiotics for a year and a half. When

> she called Jemsek's office about the last infection,

> she said a nurse told her to take some antibiotics

> that were left from a previous infection. She was

> later hospitalized with sepsis, and said she nearly

> died.

>

> " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told

> McCulloch on Thursday. " That's not acceptable. " He

> said the clinic has a better system now.

>

> He also testified that, based on experience treating

> Lyme patients since 2000, he would no longer

> continue patients on IV antibiotics if they have

> developed one or two infections.

>

> The board heard from six patients -- both pleased

> and angered by Jemsek's care -- and six physicians,

> including Jemsek.

>

> On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut

> internist who specializes in Lyme disease, told the

> board he had reviewed the records of the 10 Jemsek

> patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's

> diagnosis of all 10.

>

> also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of

> long-term antibiotic therapy in all 10 cases. But he

> added that he doesn't prescribe intravenous

> antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the

> risk of infection. When asked about ' case,

> said he would not have prescribed IV

> antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not

> clear to me how much better she was getting. "

>

> is a past president of the International

> Lyme and Associated Diseases Society, a group of

> several hundred doctors, including Jemsek, who

> specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients

> should be treated with antibiotics for longer than

> the four weeks recommended in the guidelines of the

> larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of

> America.

>

> Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the

> Lyme disease research program at Columbia

> University, described his recent research to

> determine the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics

> for patients who continue to have symptoms after a

> short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

>

> On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics

> for 10 weeks showed significant improvement over

> those who took a placebo.

>

> Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's

> testimony that standard tests for diagnosing Lyme

> are not reliable. That's why, they said, a Lyme

> diagnosis should also be based on the presence of

> certain symptoms, such as headache, joint pain,

> memory loss and confusion.

>

> Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

> physician, " your goal is to help patients. If longer

> courses of treatment are helpful, then physicians

> need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

>

June 16, 2006

Penny

The septic infections she developed where the infections she already

owned but didn't have attended to?? CAn you see what the bigger

picture is.The 'life threatening stuff' is the sinus bacteria that's

fine until you get the open heart surgery and the infection festers

at the wound sites....but ignorance is bliss ...

>

> >

> http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> >

> > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent

> > in Lyme cases

> > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@...

> > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to

> > suspend for one year the license of Dr. ph

> > Jemsek, determining he acted unprofessionally in his

> > treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> >

> > The decision came after two days of hearing

> > testimony from patients and medical experts before

> > the 12-member board, which had accused the

> > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10

> > patients with Lyme disease and inappropriately

> > treating them antibiotics for months or years.

> >

> > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for

> > his treatment of AIDS patients, will maintain

> > medical privileges until July, when he meets with

> > the board.

> >

> > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the

> > manner in which he treated the 10 patients whose

> > cases the board reviewed and also by breaching

> > informed consent, the decision said.

> >

> > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since

> > 1979, first at the Nalle Clinic in Charlotte and

> > since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in Huntersville.

> >

> > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his

> > approach to diagnosis and treatment. His lawyer

> > called two Lyme disease specialists from New York

> > and Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention

> > that standard tests for Lyme disease are not

> > reliable and that long-term antibiotic treatment is

> > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> >

> > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his

> > practice has evolved over the years and that his

> > office recently began using a new four-page form to

> > explain to patients that his practice differs from

> > the standard used by other N.C. physicians.

> >

> > He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte

> > board member Dr. Art McCulloch, that his office

> > could have done a better job of taking care of one

> > of the 10 patients, , when she called

> > to complain about symptoms that turned out to be a

> > sepsis infection.

> >

> > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday

> > that, while she was under Jemsek's care, she

> > developed five infections as a result of having

> > catheters in her arm and chest for delivering

> > intravenous antibiotics for a year and a half. When

> > she called Jemsek's office about the last infection,

> > she said a nurse told her to take some antibiotics

> > that were left from a previous infection. She was

> > later hospitalized with sepsis, and said she nearly

> > died.

> >

> > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told

> > McCulloch on Thursday. " That's not acceptable. " He

> > said the clinic has a better system now.

> >

> > He also testified that, based on experience treating

> > Lyme patients since 2000, he would no longer

> > continue patients on IV antibiotics if they have

> > developed one or two infections.

> >

> > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased

> > and angered by Jemsek's care -- and six physicians,

> > including Jemsek.

> >

> > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut

> > internist who specializes in Lyme disease, told the

> > board he had reviewed the records of the 10 Jemsek

> > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's

> > diagnosis of all 10.

> >

> > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of

> > long-term antibiotic therapy in all 10 cases. But he

> > added that he doesn't prescribe intravenous

> > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the

> > risk of infection. When asked about ' case,

> > said he would not have prescribed IV

> > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not

> > clear to me how much better she was getting. "

> >

> > is a past president of the International

> > Lyme and Associated Diseases Society, a group of

> > several hundred doctors, including Jemsek, who

> > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients

> > should be treated with antibiotics for longer than

> > the four weeks recommended in the guidelines of the

> > larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of

> > America.

> >

> > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the

> > Lyme disease research program at Columbia

> > University, described his recent research to

> > determine the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics

> > for patients who continue to have symptoms after a

> > short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

> >

> > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics

> > for 10 weeks showed significant improvement over

> > those who took a placebo.

> >

> > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's

> > testimony that standard tests for diagnosing Lyme

> > are not reliable. That's why, they said, a Lyme

> > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of

> > certain symptoms, such as headache, joint pain,

> > memory loss and confusion.

> >

> > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

> > physician, " your goal is to help patients. If longer

> > courses of treatment are helpful, then physicians

> > need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

> >

>

June 16, 2006

I too find this a sad state of affairs. Really, really a

disappointment. It sounds that there may have been some issues with

one of his patients and that is unfortunate, but that happens ALL

the time and doctors don't get their licenses taken away because of

it.

Doctors in Hawaii under an HMO failed miserablly to diagnose my

mom's bladder cancer. She finally went out side of the HMO, paid

cash to another doc to finally get the diagnosis she was suspecting.

Doctors still in practice.

My husband spent a month with appendicitis without his doc being

able to diagnose it. He didn't even try, prefered to talk about

cars. Even recommended an enema in what turned out to be

appendecitis. NEVER even did a WBC. Result husband ended up in

hospital for 30 days with 2 major surgeries to clean up the

infection mess when the appendix perferated. We attempted a lawsuit

which turned up nothing and doctor is still in practice.

No other doctors or specialists out there screaming to bring these

doctors down.

The reason this is happening goes far beyond a handful of doctors

treating Lyme with long term ABX and having someone get an infection

from the IVs.

>

> This time the south did not need the north to defeat them. They

have

> destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

Lapp, a world

> famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

conference that

> Jemsek would go down.

>

> Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up to the reality

that there

> is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in the south.

People there

> who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and fms. Then they

are placed

> on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and Lapp, or, if they

can afford

> it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a $1,000 chair to

bounce in

> to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are anathema.

>

> If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription for an antibiotic

for

> mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and years before

Jemsek knew

> people in the south had Lyme I would still be completely

incapacitated but

> still wandering around in my daffodil garden getting tick bites.

>

> My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her sofa. She

has been

> sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist decided to

try her on

> minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in her hands

went

> down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm folks. At

fms

> support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were dozens

of cases

> of MS.

>

> Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS conference the CDC

representatives

> smirked and stated that the borrelia infection found in the south

causes a

> mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3 weeks? Of course,

the Quest

> lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these cases. Makes

one wonder

> where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't it? Well, one

would

> wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

>

> Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified him. I wonder

what will

> happen in " three days " this time? This is the end only if we allow

it to be.

>

> a Carnes

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> RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend for

one year

> the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

unprofessionally in

> his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

>

> The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

patients and

> medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused the

> Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with

Lyme disease

> and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or years.

>

> But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his treatment

of AIDS

> patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when he

meets with

> the board.

>

> Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in which he

treated

> the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

breaching

> informed consent, the decision said.

>

> Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979, first at

the Nalle

> Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

Huntersville.

>

> At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach to

diagnosis and

> treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists from New

York and

> Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that standard tests

for Lyme

> disease are not reliable and that long-term antibiotic treatment is

> necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

>

> During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice has

evolved over

> the years and that his office recently began using a new four-page

form to

> explain to patients that his practice differs from the standard

used by

> other N.C. physicians.

>

> He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board member

Dr. Art

> McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of taking

care of

> one of the 10 patients, , when she called to

complain about

> symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

>

> , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while she

was under

> Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of having

catheters

> in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous antibiotics for a

year and a

> half. When she called Jemsek's office about the last infection,

she said a

> nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were left from a

nearly died.

>

> " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

Thursday. " That's

> not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system now.

>

> He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme patients

since

> 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics if

they have

> developed one or two infections.

>

> The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and angered by

Jemsek's

> care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

>

> On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist who

specializes in

> Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the records of the 10

Jemsek

> patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's diagnosis of all

10.

>

> also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term

antibiotic

> therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't prescribe

intravenous

> antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the risk of

infection. When

> asked about ' case, said he would not have

prescribed IV

> antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not clear to me how

much

> better she was getting. "

>

> is a past president of the International Lyme and

Associated

> Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors, including

Jemsek, who

> specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients should be

treated with

> antibiotics for longer than the four weeks recommended in the

guidelines of

> the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of America.

>

> Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme disease

research

> program at Columbia University, described his recent research to

determine

> the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients who

continue to have

> symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

>

> On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10 weeks

showed

> significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

>

> Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that

standard tests

> for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they said, a Lyme

> diagnosis should also be based on the presence of certain

symptoms, such as

> headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

>

> Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a physician, " your

goal is to

> help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful, then

physicians

> need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

>

June 16, 2006

Wonder if NOT calling it Lyme to get treatment would work. I have

never had any problem getting any tests or ABX, antifungals, etc.

long term with Blue Shield in CA. When last I was in CA, I was

treated for systemic yeast and mycoplasma. I don't know if my doc

used FM as a diagnosis or mycoplasma, but they don't seem to have

the stigma that they used to, well at least FM is recognized,

although I don't know that ABX therapy is looked upon all that

highly.

This unfortunatly wouldn't help in getting Lyme recognized though.

>

> Barb,

>

> Just to add another piece of the puzzle - Blue Cross/Blue Shield

of North

> Carolina has decided it will not pay for longterm antibiotics for

Lyme

> patients. This means that even if Jemsek backs off on IV

antibiotics, which

> he said he only used on worst cases, he will not be able to

prescribe the

> antibiotics needed for any of us unless we have our own money.

BC/BS is the

> insurance company that covers all state employees in North and

South

> Carolina.

>

> I keep thinking there has to be some way to protest this. It's

bigger than

> Jemsek getting his license suspended. Trouble is, all the patients

in the

> south with Lyme look like cfs, fms, MS, ALS, or Alzheimers -

needless to

> say, those groups of sick people are too sick to protest or even

think.

> Borrelia is a brain disease and we are losing ours.

>

> a

>

> Article said in part:

> QUOTE

> The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

patients

> and medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused

the

> Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with

Lyme

> disease and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months

or

> years.

> END QUOTE... and that's even with and Fallon testifying

on

> his behalf. This is very sad. And it will effect how other Lyme

> Drs. practice.

>

> Soooooooo I ask myself...

> Then why can't the Docs be prosecuted who misdiagnosed me

> with 'Chomplex autoimmune Disorder " and would have inappropriately

> treated me with steriods?

>

> And I answer myself........

> Because the medical community has established strict protocols for

> diagnosis, safety rules AND treatment for their brand of diagnosis

> which results in the protection THEMSELVES more than their

patients.

>

> We have one size fits all diagnoses and treatment -

> which may work for some percentage of people, but an enormously

> large portion fall out side that group ( the very old, the

chronicly

> infected- and the ones they can't figure out what's wrong).

> it's to hell with them (or any one who helps them) - give 'em

prozac

> and send in the next patient.

>

> Jaded as always,

> Barb

>

June 16, 2006

Jelly

You don't seem to be learning too much with all the mayhem that your

alway's confronted with?

tony

> >

> > This time the south did not need the north to defeat them. They

> have

> > destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

> Lapp, a world

> > famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

> conference that

> > Jemsek would go down.

> >

> > Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up to the reality

> that there

> > is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in the south.

> People there

> > who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and fms. Then they

> are placed

> > on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and Lapp, or, if

they

> can afford

> > it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a $1,000 chair to

> bounce in

> > to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are anathema.

> >

> > If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription for an

antibiotic

> for

> > mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and years before

> Jemsek knew

> > people in the south had Lyme I would still be completely

> incapacitated but

> > still wandering around in my daffodil garden getting tick bites.

> >

> > My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her sofa. She

> has been

> > sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist decided

to

> try her on

> > minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in her

hands

> went

> > down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm folks.

At

> fms

> > support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were

dozens

> of cases

> > of MS.

> >

> > Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS conference the CDC

> representatives

> > smirked and stated that the borrelia infection found in the

south

> causes a

> > mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3 weeks? Of course,

> the Quest

> > lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these cases. Makes

> one wonder

> > where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't it? Well, one

> would

> > wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

> >

> > Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified him. I wonder

> what will

> > happen in " three days " this time? This is the end only if we

allow

> it to be.

> >

> > a Carnes

> >

> > http://www.charlott

> > <http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm>

> > e.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> >

> > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme cases

> > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@CHARLOTTEO <mailto:KGARLOCH@>

> > BSERVER.COM

> > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend for

> one year

> > the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

> unprofessionally in

> > his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> >

> > The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

> patients and

> > medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused the

> > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with

> Lyme disease

> > and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or

years.

> >

> > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his

treatment

> of AIDS

> > patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when he

> meets with

> > the board.

> >

> > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in which

he

> treated

> > the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

> breaching

> > informed consent, the decision said.

> >

> > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979, first at

> the Nalle

> > Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

> Huntersville.

> >

> > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach to

> diagnosis and

> > treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists from

New

> York and

> > Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that standard

tests

> for Lyme

> > disease are not reliable and that long-term antibiotic treatment

is

> > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> >

> > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice has

> evolved over

> > the years and that his office recently began using a new four-

page

> form to

> > explain to patients that his practice differs from the standard

> used by

> > other N.C. physicians.

> >

> > He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board

member

> Dr. Art

> > McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of

taking

> care of

> > one of the 10 patients, , when she called to

> complain about

> > symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

> >

> > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while she

> was under

> > Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of

having

> catheters

> > in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous antibiotics for

a

> year and a

> > half. When she called Jemsek's office about the last infection,

> she said a

> > nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were left from a

> previous

> > infection. She was later hospitalized with sepsis, and said she

> nearly died.

> >

> > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

> Thursday. " That's

> > not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system now.

> >

> > He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme

patients

> since

> > 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics if

> they have

> > developed one or two infections.

> >

> > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and angered by

> Jemsek's

> > care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

> >

> > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist who

> specializes in

> > Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the records of the

10

> Jemsek

> > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's diagnosis of

all

> 10.

> >

> > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term

> antibiotic

> > therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't prescribe

> intravenous

> > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the risk of

> infection. When

> > asked about ' case, said he would not have

> prescribed IV

> > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not clear to me

how

> much

> > better she was getting. "

> >

> > is a past president of the International Lyme and

> Associated

> > Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors, including

> Jemsek, who

> > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients should be

> treated with

> > antibiotics for longer than the four weeks recommended in the

> guidelines of

> > the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of America.

> >

> > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme disease

> research

> > program at Columbia University, described his recent research to

> determine

> > the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients who

> continue to have

> > symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

> >

> > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10 weeks

> showed

> > significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

> >

> > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that

> standard tests

> > for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they said, a

Lyme

> > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of certain

> symptoms, such as

> > headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

> >

> > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a physician, " your

> goal is to

> > help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful, then

> physicians

> > need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

> >

>

June 16, 2006

Well a

You should make arrangements to get your drugs from outside of your

insurance company. When insurance is involved cheap old drugs that

have been around forever are still way overpriced in the USA.I made

sure that I got all my drugs outsuide the system cause I hjust

wanted a gurarnteed supply with no hang ups. Drugs that are 23

dollars thru the insurabnce, govt medicine plan I have negotiated

privately for 10 dollars a script without insurance govt

susbidy.Plus I get private scriptss that remain between me and my

doctor so there's no chance of anyone knocking on his or my door.

tony

>

> Jelly, I have BC/BS and have all my antibiotics covered - no

questions asked

> ever. I am covered under a state policy from South Carolina. This

denial of

> coverage is new and is, so far, only in North Carolina. I expect

any day to

> find my current antibiotic denied. We shall see.

>

> a

>

> Wonder if NOT calling it Lyme to get treatment would work. I have

> never had any problem getting any tests or ABX, antifungals, etc.

> long term with Blue Shield in CA. When last I was in CA, I was

> treated for systemic yeast and mycoplasma. I don't know if my doc

> used FM as a diagnosis or mycoplasma, but they don't seem to have

> the stigma that they used to, well at least FM is recognized,

> although I don't know that ABX therapy is looked upon all that

> highly.

>

> This unfortunatly wouldn't help in getting Lyme recognized though.

>

June 16, 2006

Penny's right.

in 1975, when I was 28, I had adhesions from a previous operation

loop 2 sections of my intestine. It doubled me over & had 4 trips to

the ER in 4 days..

lost 28 lbs in 4 days, stomach distended out to looking 9 months

pregnant, throwing up and no bowel sounds....

And they were mis- reading the Xrays.. and the Docs told me I had

***hysterical pregnancy*** and sent me home..

That night I vomited up sh*t.. had an out of body experience, and was

rushed back to the ER... I was in very bad shape for 6 weeks after

that.

So I have reason to be jaded.

Barb

> > >

> > > This time the south did not need the north to

> > defeat them. They

> > have

> > > destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that

> > Dr.

> > Lapp, a world

> > > famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004

> > AACFS

> > conference that

> > > Jemsek would go down.

> > >

> > > Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up

> > to the reality

> > that there

> > > is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in

> > the south.

> > People there

> > > who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and

> > fms. Then they

> > are placed

> > > on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and

> > Lapp, or, if they

> > can afford

> > > it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a

> > $1,000 chair to

> > bounce in

> > > to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are

> > anathema.

> > >

> > > If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription

> > for an antibiotic

> > for

> > > mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and

> > years before

> > Jemsek knew

> > > people in the south had Lyme I would still be

> > completely

> > incapacitated but

> > > still wandering around in my daffodil garden

> > getting tick bites.

> > >

> > > My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off

> > her sofa. She

> > has been

> > > sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her

> > rheumatologist decided to

> > try her on

> > > minocycline. For the first time in years the

> > swelling in her hands

> > went

> > > down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count

> > the farm folks. At

> > fms

> > > support group meetings 100 women would show up.

> > There were dozens

> > of cases

> > > of MS.

> > >

> > > Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS

> > conference the CDC

> > representatives

> > > smirked and stated that the borrelia infection

> > found in the south

> > causes a

> > > mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3

> > weeks? Of course,

> > the Quest

> > > lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these

> > cases. Makes

> > one wonder

> > > where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't

> > it? Well, one

> > would

> > > wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

> > >

> > > Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified

> > him. I wonder

> > what will

> > > happen in " three days " this time? This is the end

> > only if we allow

> > it to be.

> > >

> > > a Carnes

> > >

> > > http://www.charlott

> > >

> >

> <http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm>

> > > e.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> > >

> > > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent

> > in Lyme cases

> > > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@CHARLOTTEO

> > <mailto:KGARLOCH@>

> > > BSERVER.COM

> > > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday

> > to suspend for

> > one year

> > > the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he

> > acted

> > unprofessionally in

> > > his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> > >

> > > The decision came after two days of hearing

> > testimony from

> > patients and

> > > medical experts before the 12-member board, which

> > had accused the

> > > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10

> > patients with

> > Lyme disease

> > > and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for

> > months or years.

> > >

> > > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known

> > for his treatment

> > of AIDS

> > > patients, will maintain medical privileges until

> > July, when he

> > meets with

> > > the board.

> > >

> > > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the

> > manner in which he

> > treated

> > > the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and

> > also by

> > breaching

> > > informed consent, the decision said.

> > >

> > > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since

> > 1979, first at

> > the Nalle

> > > Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek

> > Clinic in

> > Huntersville.

> > >

> > > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his

> > approach to

> > diagnosis and

> > > treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease

> > specialists from New

> > York and

> > > Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that

> > standard tests

> > for Lyme

> > > disease are not reliable and that long-term

> > antibiotic treatment is

> > > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> > >

> > > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his

> > practice has

> > evolved over

> > > the years and that his office recently began using

> > a new four-page

> > form to

> > > explain to patients that his practice differs from

> > the standard

> > used by

> > > other N.C. physicians.

> > >

> > > He also acknowledged, under questioning by

> > Charlotte board member

> > Dr. Art

> > > McCulloch, that his office could have done a

> > better job of taking

> > care of

> > > one of the 10 patients, , when she

> > called to

> > complain about

> > > symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

> > >

> > > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday

> > that, while she

> > was under

> > > Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a

> > result of having

> > catheters

> > > in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous

> > antibiotics for a

> > year and a

> > > half. When she called Jemsek's office about the

> > last infection,

> > she said a

> > > nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were

> > left from a

> > previous

> > > infection. She was later hospitalized with sepsis,

> > and said she

> > nearly died.

> > >

> > > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told

> > McCulloch on

> > Thursday. " That's

> > > not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better

> > system now.

> > >

> > > He also testified that, based on experience

> > treating Lyme patients

> > since

> > > 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV

> > antibiotics if

> > they have

> > > developed one or two infections.

> > >

> > > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased

> > and angered by

> > Jemsek's

> > > care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

> > >

> > > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut

> > internist who

> > specializes in

> > > Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the

> > records of the 10

> > Jemsek

> > > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's

> > diagnosis of all

> > 10.

> > >

> > > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of

> > long-term

> > antibiotic

> > > therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he

> > doesn't prescribe

> > intravenous

> > > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the

> > risk of

> > infection. When

> > > asked about ' case, said he would

> > not have

> > prescribed IV

> > > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not

> > clear to me how

> > much

> > > better she was getting. "

> > >

> > > is a past president of the International

> > Lyme and

> > Associated

> > > Diseases Society, a group of several hundred

> > doctors, including

> > Jemsek, who

> > > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe

> > patients should be

> > treated with

> > > antibiotics for longer than the four weeks

> > recommended in the

> > guidelines of

> > > the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society

> > of America.

> > >

> > > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the

> > Lyme disease

> > research

> > > program at Columbia University, described his

> > recent research to

> > determine

> > > the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for

> > patients who

> > continue to have

> > > symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme

> > disease.

> > >

> > > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics

> > for 10 weeks

> > showed

> > > significant improvement over those who took a

> > placebo.

> > >

> > > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's

> > testimony that

> > standard tests

> > > for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why,

> > they said, a Lyme

> > > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of

> > certain

> > symptoms, such as

> > > headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

> > >

> > > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

> > physician, " your

> > goal is to

> > > help patients. If longer courses of treatment are

> > helpful, then

> > physicians

> > > need to have the clinical freedom to provide

> > that. "

> > >

> >

>

June 16, 2006

You think not Tony. I know so stinking much medical stuff it scares

me, stuff I don't want to know, stuff I never wanted to see. I am

regularly asked if I am a doctor or medical professional, because I

am so comfortable with hospital, medical jargan, etc. Doctors don't

intimidate me in the slightest. I have gone head to head with

literally rooms full of doctors, they don't push me around any more.

I've had a doctor slam his fist down on medical equipment at me

stating he was trying to save someone I loves life. I stood my

ground, demanded he not do what he was planning, and the one I love

is still here, despite the procedure he said had to be done wasn't,

at my insistance. Turned out, I was right, and it wasn't the first

time.

All I can do is attempt to control my own health. Have pursued a

zillions roads in my life time. The staph mantra you keep

proclaiming is a new one to me, (and you are out there pretty much

on your own, doesn't mean you are wrong)and is something as I said

in another post I will pursue as well. Ok, it's not new in that it

killed my dad, but the way things happened to my dad was not what

you are talking about. Although I will concede that he did have some

issues way earlier in life with staph in his knee.

I have a lot of people that I love, that are very ill and I would

love them all to be well, but I have to start with me, and it is

spreading out toward them, if and when they are ready. Yah staph has

come up in my family members, never with me though so I never really

gave it to much thought. But, your blabbering:} on about it is

starting to stick and I am going to look into it.

I'm still not sure how you go about getting staph diagnosed in your

sinuses, if you cant even get anything to come back positive, when

they are just going to say everyone has this anyway.

Trust me, I've learned so much I feel like my head is going to

explode, hmmm, or maybe that is the Lyme:}

> > >

> > > This time the south did not need the north to defeat them.

They

> > have

> > > destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

> > Lapp, a world

> > > famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

> > conference that

> > > Jemsek would go down.

> > >

> > > Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up to the

reality

> > that there

> > > is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in the south.

> > People there

> > > who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and fms. Then

they

> > are placed

> > > on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and Lapp, or, if

> they

> > can afford

> > > it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a $1,000 chair

to

> > bounce in

> > > to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are anathema.

> > >

> > > If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription for an

> antibiotic

> > for

> > > mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and years

before

> > Jemsek knew

> > > people in the south had Lyme I would still be completely

> > incapacitated but

> > > still wandering around in my daffodil garden getting tick

bites.

> > >

> > > My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her sofa.

She

> > has been

> > > sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist decided

> to

> > try her on

> > > minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in her

> hands

> > went

> > > down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm

folks.

> At

> > fms

> > > support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were

> dozens

> > of cases

> > > of MS.

> > >

> > > Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS conference the CDC

> > representatives

> > > smirked and stated that the borrelia infection found in the

> south

> > causes a

> > > mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3 weeks? Of

course,

> > the Quest

> > > lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these cases.

Makes

> > one wonder

> > > where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't it? Well,

one

> > would

> > > wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

> > >

> > > Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified him. I wonder

> > what will

> > > happen in " three days " this time? This is the end only if we

> allow

> > it to be.

> > >

> > > a Carnes

> > >

> > > http://www.charlott

> > > <http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm>

> > > e.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> > >

> > > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme

cases

> > > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@CHARLOTTEO <mailto:KGARLOCH@>

> > > BSERVER.COM

> > > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend

for

> > one year

> > > the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

> > unprofessionally in

> > > his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> > >

> > > The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

> > patients and

> > > medical experts before the 12-member board, which had accused

the

> > > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients with

> > Lyme disease

> > > and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or

> years.

> > >

> > > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his

> treatment

> > of AIDS

> > > patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when he

> > meets with

> > > the board.

> > >

> > > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in which

> he

> > treated

> > > the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

> > breaching

> > > informed consent, the decision said.

> > >

> > > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979, first

at

> > the Nalle

> > > Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

> > Huntersville.

> > >

> > > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach to

> > diagnosis and

> > > treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists from

> New

> > York and

> > > Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that standard

> tests

> > for Lyme

> > > disease are not reliable and that long-term antibiotic

treatment

> is

> > > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> > >

> > > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice

has

> > evolved over

> > > the years and that his office recently began using a new four-

> page

> > form to

> > > explain to patients that his practice differs from the

standard

> > used by

> > > other N.C. physicians.

> > >

> > > He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board

> member

> > Dr. Art

> > > McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of

> taking

> > care of

> > > one of the 10 patients, , when she called to

> > complain about

> > > symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

> > >

> > > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while

she

> > was under

> > > Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of

> having

> > catheters

> > > in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous antibiotics

for

> a

> > year and a

> > > half. When she called Jemsek's office about the last

infection,

> > she said a

> > > nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were left from a

> > previous

> > > infection. She was later hospitalized with sepsis, and said

she

> > nearly died.

> > >

> > > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

> > Thursday. " That's

> > > not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system now.

> > >

> > > He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme

> patients

> > since

> > > 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics

if

> > they have

> > > developed one or two infections.

> > >

> > > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and angered

by

> > Jemsek's

> > > care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

> > >

> > > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist who

> > specializes in

> > > Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the records of

the

> 10

> > Jemsek

> > > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's diagnosis of

> all

> > 10.

> > >

> > > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term

> > antibiotic

> > > therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't

prescribe

> > intravenous

> > > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the risk of

> > infection. When

> > > asked about ' case, said he would not have

> > prescribed IV

> > > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not clear to me

> how

> > much

> > > better she was getting. "

> > >

> > > is a past president of the International Lyme and

> > Associated

> > > Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors,

including

> > Jemsek, who

> > > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients should be

> > treated with

> > > antibiotics for longer than the four weeks recommended in the

> > guidelines of

> > > the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of America.

> > >

> > > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme disease

> > research

> > > program at Columbia University, described his recent research

to

> > determine

> > > the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients who

> > continue to have

> > > symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

> > >

> > > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10

weeks

> > showed

> > > significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

> > >

> > > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that

> > standard tests

> > > for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they said, a

> Lyme

> > > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of certain

> > symptoms, such as

> > > headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

> > >

> > > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

physician, " your

> > goal is to

> > > help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful,

then

> > physicians

> > > need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

> > >

> >

>

June 16, 2006

Jelly

You see how I told it to you and you come back anmd tell me your

dad had previous issues with staph in his knee. I said YEAH AS IF HE

CONTRACTED STAPH, IT WAS LIKELY THE CUPRIT IN ALL HIS ISSUES YET

NEVER LOOKED AT.I am trying to open your thinking chanels cause at

every turn in most of your posts someone is fighting some

UNDIAGNOSED or underdiagnosed infection that seems to you to be

nothing to do with what we are fighting with.

> > > >

> > > > This time the south did not need the north to defeat them.

> They

> > > have

> > > > destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

> > > Lapp, a world

> > > > famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

> > > conference that

> > > > Jemsek would go down.

> > > >

> > > > Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up to the

> reality

> > > that there

> > > > is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in the south.

> > > People there

> > > > who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and fms. Then

> they

> > > are placed

> > > > on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and Lapp, or, if

> > they

> > > can afford

> > > > it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a $1,000

chair

> to

> > > bounce in

> > > > to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are anathema.

> > > >

> > > > If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription for an

> > antibiotic

> > > for

> > > > mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and years

> before

> > > Jemsek knew

> > > > people in the south had Lyme I would still be completely

> > > incapacitated but

> > > > still wandering around in my daffodil garden getting tick

> bites.

> > > >

> > > > My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her sofa.

> She

> > > has been

> > > > sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist

decided

> > to

> > > try her on

> > > > minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in her

> > hands

> > > went

> > > > down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm

> folks.

> > At

> > > fms

> > > > support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were

> > dozens

> > > of cases

> > > > of MS.

> > > >

> > > > Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS conference the CDC

> > > representatives

> > > > smirked and stated that the borrelia infection found in the

> > south

> > > causes a

> > > > mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3 weeks? Of

> course,

> > > the Quest

> > > > lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these cases.

> Makes

> > > one wonder

> > > > where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't it? Well,

> one

> > > would

> > > > wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified him. I

wonder

> > > what will

> > > > happen in " three days " this time? This is the end only if we

> > allow

> > > it to be.

> > > >

> > > > a Carnes

> > > >

> > > > http://www.charlott

> > > >

<http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm>

> > > > e.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > > > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme

> cases

> > > > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@CHARLOTTEO <mailto:KGARLOCH@>

> > > > BSERVER.COM

> > > > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to suspend

> for

> > > one year

> > > > the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

> > > unprofessionally in

> > > > his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> > > >

> > > > The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

> > > patients and

> > > > medical experts before the 12-member board, which had

accused

> the

> > > > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients

with

> > > Lyme disease

> > > > and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months or

> > years.

> > > >

> > > > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his

> > treatment

> > > of AIDS

> > > > patients, will maintain medical privileges until July, when

he

> > > meets with

> > > > the board.

> > > >

> > > > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in

which

> > he

> > > treated

> > > > the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

> > > breaching

> > > > informed consent, the decision said.

> > > >

> > > > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979, first

> at

> > > the Nalle

> > > > Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

> > > Huntersville.

> > > >

> > > > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach

to

> > > diagnosis and

> > > > treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists

from

> > New

> > > York and

> > > > Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that standard

> > tests

> > > for Lyme

> > > > disease are not reliable and that long-term antibiotic

> treatment

> > is

> > > > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> > > >

> > > > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his practice

> has

> > > evolved over

> > > > the years and that his office recently began using a new

four-

> > page

> > > form to

> > > > explain to patients that his practice differs from the

> standard

> > > used by

> > > > other N.C. physicians.

> > > >

> > > > He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board

> > member

> > > Dr. Art

> > > > McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of

> > taking

> > > care of

> > > > one of the 10 patients, , when she called to

> > > complain about

> > > > symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

> > > >

> > > > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that, while

> she

> > > was under

> > > > Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result of

> > having

> > > catheters

> > > > in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous antibiotics

> for

> > a

> > > year and a

> > > > half. When she called Jemsek's office about the last

> infection,

> > > she said a

> > > > nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were left from

a

> > > previous

> > > > infection. She was later hospitalized with sepsis, and said

> she

> > > nearly died.

> > > >

> > > > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

> > > Thursday. " That's

> > > > not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system now.

> > > >

> > > > He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme

> > patients

> > > since

> > > > 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV antibiotics

> if

> > > they have

> > > > developed one or two infections.

> > > >

> > > > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and

angered

> by

> > > Jemsek's

> > > > care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

> > > >

> > > > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist

who

> > > specializes in

> > > > Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the records of

> the

> > 10

> > > Jemsek

> > > > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's diagnosis

of

> > all

> > > 10.

> > > >

> > > > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-term

> > > antibiotic

> > > > therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't

> prescribe

> > > intravenous

> > > > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the risk of

> > > infection. When

> > > > asked about ' case, said he would not have

> > > prescribed IV

> > > > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not clear to

me

> > how

> > > much

> > > > better she was getting. "

> > > >

> > > > is a past president of the International Lyme and

> > > Associated

> > > > Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors,

> including

> > > Jemsek, who

> > > > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients should

be

> > > treated with

> > > > antibiotics for longer than the four weeks recommended in

the

> > > guidelines of

> > > > the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of America.

> > > >

> > > > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme

disease

> > > research

> > > > program at Columbia University, described his recent

research

> to

> > > determine

> > > > the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients who

> > > continue to have

> > > > symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

> > > >

> > > > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10

> weeks

> > > showed

> > > > significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

> > > >

> > > > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony that

> > > standard tests

> > > > for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they said,

a

> > Lyme

> > > > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of certain

> > > symptoms, such as

> > > > headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

> > > >

> > > > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

> physician, " your

> > > goal is to

> > > > help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful,

> then

> > > physicians

> > > > need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 16, 2006

My question is though, if everyone already has staph when do we know

it becomes the problem making us sick? When does it go outside of

being normal to being a chronic infection causinng symptoms when

there doesn't appear to be an active infection that can be literally

seen, which is what they want with staph, right? They aren't

thinking systemic staph/low grade, meaning not killing you at this

moment. My dad's knee issue was way, way before, the caridac issue.

There were many, many years after the knee issue that he was fine,

not yet appearing to have Lupus.

I think staph is totally plausable, but I don't think that I could

be convinced that it is the ONLY issue. Maybe staph was the final

straw on top of all the other pathogens he was already hauling

around.

> > > > >

> > > > > This time the south did not need the north to defeat them.

> > They

> > > > have

> > > > > destroyed themselves. Some of you may recall that Dr.

>

> > > > Lapp, a world

> > > > > famous doctor in Charlotte, NC told me at the 2004 AACFS

> > > > conference that

> > > > > Jemsek would go down.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why? Because the CDC refuses to admit and face up to the

> > reality

> > > > that there

> > > > > is a massive epidemic of an infectious disease in the

south.

> > > > People there

> > > > > who get " Lyme " disease are labeled with cfids and fms.

Then

> > they

> > > > are placed

> > > > > on klonopin and graded exercise a la Cheney and Lapp, or,

if

> > > they

> > > > can afford

> > > > > it, they are told to join a local pool and buy a $1,000

> chair

> > to

> > > > bounce in

> > > > > to increase their blood flow. Antibiotics are anathema.

> > > > >

> > > > > If Dr. Jemsek had not written me a prescription for an

> > > antibiotic

> > > > for

> > > > > mycoplasma years before I knew I had borrelia, and years

> > before

> > > > Jemsek knew

> > > > > people in the south had Lyme I would still be completely

> > > > incapacitated but

> > > > > still wandering around in my daffodil garden getting tick

> > bites.

> > > > >

> > > > > My best friend in South Carolina cannot get up off her

sofa.

> > She

> > > > has been

> > > > > sick with fms for 20 years. Finally her rheumatologist

> decided

> > > to

> > > > try her on

> > > > > minocycline. For the first time in years the swelling in

her

> > > hands

> > > > went

> > > > > down. We lived in a town of 10,000 if you count the farm

> > folks.

> > > At

> > > > fms

> > > > > support group meetings 100 women would show up. There were

> > > dozens

> > > > of cases

> > > > > of MS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Have I mentioned that at that same AACFS conference the

CDC

> > > > representatives

> > > > > smirked and stated that the borrelia infection found in

the

> > > south

> > > > causes a

> > > > > mild, self-limiting disease that only lasts 3 weeks? Of

> > course,

> > > > the Quest

> > > > > lab tests are never positive for borrelia in these cases.

> > Makes

> > > > one wonder

> > > > > where Jemsek was getting all his patients, doesn't it?

Well,

> > one

> > > > would

> > > > > wonder if one had the capacity to wonder.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Jemsek is a hero, and we have just crucified him. I

> wonder

> > > > what will

> > > > > happen in " three days " this time? This is the end only if

we

> > > allow

> > > > it to be.

> > > > >

> > > > > a Carnes

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.charlott

> > > > >

> <http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm>

> > > > > e.com/mld/observer/news/local/14830962.htm

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr. Jemsek's license suspended for 1 year

> > > > > Medical board cites problems with conduct, consent in Lyme

> > cases

> > > > > KAREN GARLOCH KGARLOCH@CHARLOTTEO <mailto:KGARLOCH@>

> > > > > BSERVER.COM

> > > > > RALEIGH - The N.C. Medical Board decided Thursday to

suspend

> > for

> > > > one year

> > > > > the license of Dr. ph Jemsek, determining he acted

> > > > unprofessionally in

> > > > > his treatment of Lyme disease patients.

> > > > >

> > > > > The decision came after two days of hearing testimony from

> > > > patients and

> > > > > medical experts before the 12-member board, which had

> accused

> > the

> > > > > Huntersville doctor of misdiagnosing at least 10 patients

> with

> > > > Lyme disease

> > > > > and inappropriately treating them antibiotics for months

or

> > > years.

> > > > >

> > > > > But the board said that Jemsek, who's also known for his

> > > treatment

> > > > of AIDS

> > > > > patients, will maintain medical privileges until July,

when

> he

> > > > meets with

> > > > > the board.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jemsek committed unprofessional conduct in the manner in

> which

> > > he

> > > > treated

> > > > > the 10 patients whose cases the board reviewed and also by

> > > > breaching

> > > > > informed consent, the decision said.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jemsek has practiced in the Charlotte area since 1979,

first

> > at

> > > > the Nalle

> > > > > Clinic in Charlotte and since 2000 at the Jemsek Clinic in

> > > > Huntersville.

> > > > >

> > > > > At the hearing Thursday, Jemsek, 57, defended his approach

> to

> > > > diagnosis and

> > > > > treatment. His lawyer called two Lyme disease specialists

> from

> > > New

> > > > York and

> > > > > Connecticut who supported Jemsek's contention that

standard

> > > tests

> > > > for Lyme

> > > > > disease are not reliable and that long-term antibiotic

> > treatment

> > > is

> > > > > necessary for patients with chronic Lyme symptoms.

> > > > >

> > > > > During his testimony, Jemsek acknowledged that his

practice

> > has

> > > > evolved over

> > > > > the years and that his office recently began using a new

> four-

> > > page

> > > > form to

> > > > > explain to patients that his practice differs from the

> > standard

> > > > used by

> > > > > other N.C. physicians.

> > > > >

> > > > > He also acknowledged, under questioning by Charlotte board

> > > member

> > > > Dr. Art

> > > > > McCulloch, that his office could have done a better job of

> > > taking

> > > > care of

> > > > > one of the 10 patients, , when she called

to

> > > > complain about

> > > > > symptoms that turned out to be a sepsis infection.

> > > > >

> > > > > , 32 of Huntersville, testified Wednesday that,

while

> > she

> > > > was under

> > > > > Jemsek's care, she developed five infections as a result

of

> > > having

> > > > catheters

> > > > > in her arm and chest for delivering intravenous

antibiotics

> > for

> > > a

> > > > year and a

> > > > > half. When she called Jemsek's office about the last

> > infection,

> > > > she said a

> > > > > nurse told her to take some antibiotics that were left

from

> a

> > > > previous

> > > > > infection. She was later hospitalized with sepsis, and

said

> > she

> > > > nearly died.

> > > > >

> > > > > " I'm disturbed about that too, " Jemsek told McCulloch on

> > > > Thursday. " That's

> > > > > not acceptable. " He said the clinic has a better system

now.

> > > > >

> > > > > He also testified that, based on experience treating Lyme

> > > patients

> > > > since

> > > > > 2000, he would no longer continue patients on IV

antibiotics

> > if

> > > > they have

> > > > > developed one or two infections.

> > > > >

> > > > > The board heard from six patients -- both pleased and

> angered

> > by

> > > > Jemsek's

> > > > > care -- and six physicians, including Jemsek.

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thursday, Dr. , a Connecticut internist

> who

> > > > specializes in

> > > > > Lyme disease, told the board he had reviewed the records

of

> > the

> > > 10

> > > > Jemsek

> > > > > patients in question, and he agreed with Jemsek's

diagnosis

> of

> > > all

> > > > 10.

> > > > >

> > > > > also said he agreed with Jemsek's use of long-

term

> > > > antibiotic

> > > > > therapy in all 10 cases. But he added that he doesn't

> > prescribe

> > > > intravenous

> > > > > antibiotics in his practice, partly because of the risk of

> > > > infection. When

> > > > > asked about ' case, said he would not have

> > > > prescribed IV

> > > > > antibiotics for her, especially because " it's not clear to

> me

> > > how

> > > > much

> > > > > better she was getting. "

> > > > >

> > > > > is a past president of the International Lyme and

> > > > Associated

> > > > > Diseases Society, a group of several hundred doctors,

> > including

> > > > Jemsek, who

> > > > > specialize in Lyme disease and who believe patients should

> be

> > > > treated with

> > > > > antibiotics for longer than the four weeks recommended in

> the

> > > > guidelines of

> > > > > the larger and older Infectious Diseases Society of

America.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also Thursday, Dr. Fallon, director of the Lyme

> disease

> > > > research

> > > > > program at Columbia University, described his recent

> research

> > to

> > > > determine

> > > > > the effectiveness of long-term antibiotics for patients

who

> > > > continue to have

> > > > > symptoms after a short-term treatment for Lyme disease.

> > > > >

> > > > > On average, he said, patients who took antibiotics for 10

> > weeks

> > > > showed

> > > > > significant improvement over those who took a placebo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Both and Fallon agreed with Jemsek's testimony

that

> > > > standard tests

> > > > > for diagnosing Lyme are not reliable. That's why, they

said,

> a

> > > Lyme

> > > > > diagnosis should also be based on the presence of certain

> > > > symptoms, such as

> > > > > headache, joint pain, memory loss and confusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Afterward, Fallon told the Observer that, as a

> > physician, " your

> > > > goal is to

> > > > > help patients. If longer courses of treatment are helpful,

> > then

> > > > physicians

> > > > > need to have the clinical freedom to provide that. "

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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