Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Gosh Tony, you are as stinking arrogant as they come. Do you think you are the ONLY one who sees these symptoms as signs of chronic infection???? The problemo is which innfection? Every single thing you listed is a sypmtom of Lyme, Mycoplasma and Chlamydia. Do you think we don't know that? OR are you actually wanting us to accept without question your mantra of staph? I'd bet my house that staph is not the only infection that any of us have. You need to climb out of your box and broaden your viewpoint. If I have staph, then apparently the Minocycline I already take for all of the other chronic infections I am already diagnosed with, then it will be wiped out too, right? > > To all > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck stiffness - sore eyes- > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- costochondritis of the rib > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of cardiac problem, often > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- tachycardia- (heart > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a minute).Thymus- is in > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause muscle weakness. > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain lesions-inner ear > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- other brain stem > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and have > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your thyroid is coping a > pounding. etc. etc > You still think people with any group of these symptoms have something > hidding? This is virtually working from the head down and you can keep > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and the list of > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If you don't believe > your problem is huge and obvious you should get yourself on the next > 50 cent music video. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Tony wrote: your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and have disappeared due to long term inflammation. Tony, Would you please give a link to anything to support this? How about a picture of what healthy normal tonsils look like, or a research study indicating that sick tonsils shrink – just anything. This makes NO SENSE AT ALL TO ME, but what do I know. a Carnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Jelly Your missing my point....I'm trying to sho3w you how important it is to take seriously a sinus infection of the head which leaks throughout the upper body and connects up the whole mess of symptoms. So if you have pseudonomas/staph / candida in the esophagus you shouldn't take it with a grain of salt- it has meaning. I don't think this is arrogance I'm just tryijng to paint a picture that you have a stinking infection that's not hiding.But you obviously can't see how a staph in the knee not taken seriously can fester for many years and create further havoc- basically something chronic waiting a chance to become acute. This is all my point has been if you haven't gone to first base- why are you in the never never land of stealth pathogens , mycoplamsa, and Bb. By the way my arrogance has lead many to question what is actually occuring when they are feeling violently ill- yourself included. tony > > > > To all > > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck stiffness - sore > eyes- > > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- costochondritis of the > rib > > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of cardiac problem, > often > > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- tachycardia- (heart > > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a minute).Thymus- is in > > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause muscle > weakness. > > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain lesions-inner ear > > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- other brain > stem > > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and > have > > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your thyroid is coping a > > pounding. etc. etc > > You still think people with any group of these symptoms have > something > > hidding? This is virtually working from the head down and you can > keep > > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and the list of > > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If you don't > believe > > your problem is huge and obvious you should get yourself on the > next > > 50 cent music video. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 a Go back and read the cfs experimental site, this is the type of thing that isn't so invisable- I have had 30 year olds with surgery that had there tonsil infection scrapped well into the throat. Actually at cfs experimental a doctor told someone it's good to see you had your tonsils removed to which the patient replied NO I HAVEN " T ..I just hope you can connect the HEAD - NECK - and into THE CHEST part of this disease, not to mention the shoulders which don't fair well either. You may even find your royal heighness over there commented on such event.Possably going back a month... I'm sure you think there';s a couple of sheep short in the top paddock but at least your all starting to question some of ths hysterias around the invisable aspects of this crapola. cheers > > your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and have > disappeared due to long term inflammation. > > Tony, > > Would you please give a link to anything to support this? How about a > picture of what healthy normal tonsils look like, or a research study > indicating that sick tonsils shrink - just anything. This makes NO SENSE AT > ALL TO ME, but what do I know. > > a Carnes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 > > > > To all > > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck stiffness - sore > eyes- > > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- costochondritis of the > rib > > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of cardiac problem, > often > > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- tachycardia- (heart > > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a minute).Thymus- is in > > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause muscle > weakness. > > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain lesions-inner ear > > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- other brain > stem > > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and > have > > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your thyroid is coping a > > pounding. etc. etc > > You still think people with any group of these symptoms have > something > > hidding? This is virtually working from the head down and you can > keep > > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and the list of > > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If you don't > believe > > your problem is huge and obvious you should get yourself on the > next > > 50 cent music video. > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release Date: 12/06/2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Whenever you research Actinomyces, the literature commonly cites it as a problem in either the sinus/jaw region OR the pelvis. It's a slow growing, but very destructive bug, eating right through bone and the sinus & pelvic walls. I always find it interesting that it travels so easily between the two places that don't seem to have much in common, other than being very protected areas. To me, it just indicates how these bugs can travel around the body and why our symptoms can be so diverse. I agree 100% that in my case my bugs have been slowly spreading from my head downward. I'm sure it's possible that some people also have infections spreading upward. But the sinuses and jaw are such excellent hideways for bugs that we should all be extra vigilant when it comes to keeping these areas as bug free as possible. Pelvis region as well. As a side note, until very recently, Actinomyces was believed to be a fungus rather than a bacteria. Some websites still say it is. It looks like a fungus, and also attacks areas like the pelvic region which are usually known for fungal infections. I wonder if any other bugs are still being misidentified this way? penny --- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: > To all > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck > stiffness - sore eyes- > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- > costochondritis of the rib > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of > cardiac problem, often > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- > tachycardia- (heart > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a > minute).Thymus- is in > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause > muscle weakness. > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain > lesions-inner ear > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- > other brain stem > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your > throat and have > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your > thyroid is coping a > pounding. etc. etc > You still think people with any group of these > symptoms have something > hidding? This is virtually working from the head > down and you can keep > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and > the list of > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If > you don't believe > your problem is huge and obvious you should get > yourself on the next > 50 cent music video. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I have NO DOUBT that a sinus infection of this magnitude is serious. When my daughter was hospitalized for her sinus infection, it was finally realized with me pushing all the way that this smoldering infection had eaten a hole through a part of skull or cartilidge to her optic nerve causing the pupil and eyelid to react improperly....scarey for sure. Can't tell you how many doctors told me this ws not what was happening. I don't have your typical symptoms of sinus infection like my husband, I don't even have symptoms like my daughter had and hers were not typical either. I do have a lot of puffiness around my eyes. When I rub my eye, I can hear things squishing behind my eye, and oddly enough I produce no boggies at all. I think all of these things are very odd. Do they scream infection, not really. I do have drainage down my throat, and interestingly enough it gets worse when I take my micro mino. Does it hurt, not at all. These are odd, and I agree, I think I should look for an explanation, and I will, I promise. What ticks me off though is the way you condecend to those of us who aren't buying into your belief that staph is likely behind all of our ills. " Connect the dots " ??? You say it in a way as if we are all to stupid to understand what you are saying and it really is so simple that a first grader should get it. Haing a lot of knowledge doesn't have to make you arrogant. Having strong opinions doesn't mean your arrogant. I know some of the most amazingly smart doctors who are some of the most humble people and talk to you as if they were talking to their family. Don't talk down to me, talk to me. Thing is, I may look at you and others who have all these syptoms and say you have to look into Lyme, Mycoplasma and Chlamydia P. You owe it to yourself to do that. Why would I feel that way? Because treating these things, has given me my health and life back. Didn't plan on treating staph, but inadvertantly I may have. It sounds like Penny has pursued the staph route and I'm not getting that she has improved all that much, I may have missed that. Staph may seem like a simple thing, but getting the results you say we should find is NOT that easy. Even if you can find a doc willing to run these tests, you still may get negatives. Then what? Pursue again and again and again, just like with the other infections. Can't tell you how many times I was tested for Lyme before the newer labs came along and I got a positive diagnosis. Had to be tested 2 times for Mycos before I came back pos. Testing for staph just isn't any easier then that. You still haven't said when staph goes out of the realm of being common and into the world of making us sick. Did staph in my dad knee mean it was all over his body or just localized in his knee and was handled by the ABX. Was the infection brought into the real of being common once again? Can we ever say there is a cure for staph, I don't think so, cuz it's always around. Can we bring it under control, put it into remission, possibly, but that is also true of all the other possible infections we are dealing with. We need to think infections accross the board, I don't believe it is primarily one or the other any more accross the board, to many variables. > > > > > > To all > > > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck stiffness - sore > > eyes- > > > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- costochondritis of the > > rib > > > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of cardiac problem, > > often > > > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- tachycardia- > (heart > > > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a minute).Thymus- is > in > > > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause muscle > > weakness. > > > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain lesions-inner ear > > > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- other brain > > stem > > > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and > > have > > > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your thyroid is coping > a > > > pounding. etc. etc > > > You still think people with any group of these symptoms have > > something > > > hidding? This is virtually working from the head down and you > can > > keep > > > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and the list of > > > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If you don't > > believe > > > your problem is huge and obvious you should get yourself on the > > next > > > 50 cent music video. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 , yes she has worked with antifungals, diflucan in particular causes here to herx something awful. Depression and body pain to the point it brings her to tears. I have wondered if fungus is a possibility for all of us in our sinuses. I knnow that we all have fungal issues, we have all had dramatic things happen when on antifungals. I will look into this. Thanks! > > > > > > > > To all > > > > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck stiffness - sore > > > eyes- > > > > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- costochondritis of > the > > > rib > > > > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of cardiac > problem, > > > often > > > > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- tachycardia- > > (heart > > > > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a minute).Thymus- is > > in > > > > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause muscle > > > weakness. > > > > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain lesions- inner > ear > > > > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- other > brain > > > stem > > > > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and > > > have > > > > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your thyroid is > coping > > a > > > > pounding. etc. etc > > > > You still think people with any group of these symptoms have > > > something > > > > hidding? This is virtually working from the head down and you > > can > > > keep > > > > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and the list of > > > > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If you don't > > > believe > > > > your problem is huge and obvious you should get yourself on > the > > > next > > > > 50 cent music video. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release Date: 12/06/2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 a Your getting technical on me- I was just reading at the other site and they all have it in for the canadians. Something about canadian cycles.I was trying to join the dots of the entire disease and the complaints many have over many years. You want to tie it down to one thing about shrunken tonsils- Do you have a problem believeing that a HUGE MAJORITY of patients with these diseases have SORE THROATS?Do you not think that having long term inflammation in an area is going to give you permanent problems?I have had 2 friends tell me there tonsil experiences over the phone.What part about the entire disease are you ignorant on? Do you not believe that after the esophagus that the problems do/don't continue into the stomach and intestines?a please read forums carefully and don't get stuck in your mycoplasma world.You know what my problem is - I had to problem solve all my life, so your witnessing a hop skip and jumper that alway's needed to get to the bottom of a problem leaving no stone unturned.You basically can't leave a piece of machinery NOT IN WORKING ORDER ANYWHERE IN BUSINESS- yet you can do this to people in medicine. tony > > > > your tonsils engrained themselves into your throat and have > > disappeared due to long term inflammation. > > > > Tony, > > > > Would you please give a link to anything to support this? How > about a > > picture of what healthy normal tonsils look like, or a research > study > > indicating that sick tonsils shrink - just anything. This makes NO > SENSE AT > > ALL TO ME, but what do I know. > > > > a Carnes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Penny, please read my post regarding my upcoming sinus surgery. I asked to be tested for this. Of course I couldn't remember how to spell it but I remembered it was discussed some time ago and I took interest because of my chronic sinus infections. Marie -- In infections , Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: > > Whenever you research Actinomyces, the literature > commonly cites it as a problem in either the sinus/jaw > region OR the pelvis. It's a slow growing, but very > destructive bug, eating right through bone and the > sinus & pelvic walls. I always find it interesting > that it travels so easily between the two places that > don't seem to have much in common, other than being > very protected areas. To me, it just indicates how > these bugs can travel around the body and why our > symptoms can be so diverse. > > I agree 100% that in my case my bugs have been slowly > spreading from my head downward. I'm sure it's > possible that some people also have infections > spreading upward. But the sinuses and jaw are such > excellent hideways for bugs that we should all be > extra vigilant when it comes to keeping these areas as > bug free as possible. Pelvis region as well. > > As a side note, until very recently, Actinomyces was > believed to be a fungus rather than a bacteria. Some > websites still say it is. It looks like a fungus, and > also attacks areas like the pelvic region which are > usually known for fungal infections. I wonder if any > other bugs are still being misidentified this way? > > penny > > > > --- dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> > wrote: > > > To all > > If you have a sore throat-sinus problems-neck > > stiffness - sore eyes- > > grade 3 esophageal erosion-sore sternum- > > costochondritis of the rib > > cage(inflammation)- cardiomyopathy(some form of > > cardiac problem, often > > undiagnosed as anything)90/50 blood pressure- > > tachycardia- (heart > > beats constantly around or over 100 beats a > > minute).Thymus- is in > > behind the sternum- issues in this area will cause > > muscle weakness. > > some form of lung disease- asthma- COPD. brain > > lesions-inner ear > > balance problems-hypothalamus not working properly- > > other brain stem > > issues- your tonsils engrained themselves into your > > throat and have > > disappeared due to long term inflammation.Your > > thyroid is coping a > > pounding. etc. etc > > You still think people with any group of these > > symptoms have something > > hidding? This is virtually working from the head > > down and you can keep > > going out to the arsehole and down to the legs and > > the list of > > people's problems stands out like a sore thumb- If > > you don't believe > > your problem is huge and obvious you should get > > yourself on the next > > 50 cent music video. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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