Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 a, Interesting that you mentioned fluoride and quinolones. You would be very interested, I'm sure, in ordering a CD or tape ($5.95)from Healthy by Nature radio show (The Word, Christian radio, FM 100.7)of a program by a Dr. Kennedy, Dental expert, and now doing public service work in an organization (the program was a week or two ago). I can't remember the web site where you can read this information, but will listen to the tape I recorded and can post this info if anyone is interested. The primary focus of the program was the big scam on America and other places using the waste products from the atomic bomb project (fluoride) as a positive thing for our water supply for dental health. Many enlightened countries have forbidden this. Studies have shown many problems (not helps) from the fluoride being in our water. I'll bet Dr. Kennedy could help you with the quinolone question. bg > Thanks bg, > I will NEVER consider taking anything remotely related to quinolones. I am > even afraid to drink flourinated water as I heard it acts like a quinolone - > can't prove that. I do react terribly to quinine water. > > I have been lazy the last few years and quit taking ImmunePro. Yes, I should > get back on that. Thanks for that clue. > > As to few having this reaction - I seriously doubt that. If you do a net > search I think you will find that the FDA has a LOT of complaints, serious > ones, on quinolones. The postal workers in Washington, DC exposed to anthrax > are suing the government. Several of them are severely harmed by the, what, > six weeks of cipro? Furthermore, those with cfids or Lyme would never figure > their joint pain came from a quinolone, or their brain fog either. The > quinolones damage the CNS. > > Now I will step down off my soapbox. > a > > > From: " bsgttx " <bsgttx@t...> > Subject: Re: Quinolone problem > > > a, > > I recommend you look into taking a good brand of undenatured whey > protein. It is one of the best ways to build your glutatione > reserve. Glutatione, as I'm sure you know, is the master detoxifier > and should be very helpful with further ridding your body of any > residual quinolones. Also, the whole lemon/olive oil drink daily > will help detox this residue. > > If you ever consider taking TOA-free Cat's Claw (and maybe the other > form, too), you should know that quinolones of some type are also > supposedly in it, too. A friend of mine with long-time lyme has had > quinolone problems affecting her tendons with both Cipro and with > Samento. Most people do not have this problem with them. And there > are other antibiotics with quinolones, but I'm not up to speed on > those. > > bg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 BG, I was at a biotech conf in Toronto about 3 weeks ago. One company is developing a treatment to prevent tooth decay. The bottom line was BACTERIA causes tooth decay. Florides do nothing to prevent it. Brushing teeth does nothing to prevent it. Children catch it from their mothers. Sugar feeds it. On a side note since I have been on Shoemaker's 3 antibiotics for the coag negative staph colonization/biofilm my teeth have never been cleaner - I actually could go for days and never brush them and never know the difference. The only bad thing is the rifampin is turning them yellow. Wasn't this a fascinating post???? a Subject: Re: Quinolones a, Interesting that you mentioned fluoride and quinolones. You would be very interested, I'm sure, in ordering a CD or tape ($5.95)from Healthy by Nature radio show (The Word, Christian radio, FM 100.7)of a program by a Dr. Kennedy, Dental expert, and now doing public service work in an organization (the program was a week or two ago). I can't remember the web site where you can read this information, but will listen to the tape I recorded and can post this info if anyone is interested. The primary focus of the program was the big scam on America and other places using the waste products from the atomic bomb project (fluoride) as a positive thing for our water supply for dental health. Many enlightened countries have forbidden this. Studies have shown many problems (not helps) from the fluoride being in our water. I'll bet Dr. Kennedy could help you with the quinolone question. bg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I think that combo might be very hard to handle. Both major abx. with a punch. What I would say if you do cipro then make it 6 week cycles min. bleu On 31 May 2006, at 20:50, wrote: > I'm interested in maybe combining quinolones with nitroimidazoles, as > DNA damage is probably an important mechanism of the latter, and I > hear > DNA gyrase is needed for the SOS polymerase to scan the chromosome for > DNA damage. (I havent confirmed this yet.) DNA gyrase I understand to > be the target of quinolone abx. > > I havent looked into the possible safety of this combo at all yet. If > anyone has reason to think it might be a bad idea, let me know. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Where's Barb? We haven't heard from her for a while. She's always good on the drug combinations. You can also go to the links and put the drugs in one of the links for drug interactions or Flockhart's p450 table. penny <usenethod@...> wrote: I'm interested in maybe combining quinolones with nitroimidazoles, as DNA damage is probably an important mechanism of the latter, and I hear DNA gyrase is needed for the SOS polymerase to scan the chromosome for DNA damage. (I havent confirmed this yet.) DNA gyrase I understand to be the target of quinolone abx.I havent looked into the possible safety of this combo at all yet. If anyone has reason to think it might be a bad idea, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I think flagyl /cipro is a very popular combo I just can't recall for what though. > > I'm interested in maybe combining quinolones with nitroimidazoles, as > DNA damage is probably an important mechanism of the latter, and I hear > DNA gyrase is needed for the SOS polymerase to scan the chromosome for > DNA damage. (I havent confirmed this yet.) DNA gyrase I understand to > be the target of quinolone abx. > > I havent looked into the possible safety of this combo at all yet. If > anyone has reason to think it might be a bad idea, let me know. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 PAula If you bought the cardiovascular disease part of our ilness, you wouldn't jump up and down promoting 2 drugs that are NOT A CHOICE FOR CARDIO ILNESSES.zithro and mino are both bacteriostatic agents and heart issues are often only dealt with bacteriacidal agents. The other thing that I wouldn't ever bother treating or getting diagnosed is babesia- yuou've read enough people's experiences trying to deal with this long term and they are all failures in my reading's- why you'd bring it up or want to treat is is barking up the wrong tree IMO- I really come to this conclusion cause wherever anyone attempted this- NO REAL GOOD COME OUT OF IT.Also PAul has done some heavy therapy aimed at another topic I won't go into and had he got a taste for real bacteria and there treatment over a couple of days- he may have seen the light. > > > > I'm interested in maybe combining quinolones with nitroimidazoles, > as > > DNA damage is probably an important mechanism of the latter, and I > hear > > DNA gyrase is needed for the SOS polymerase to scan the chromosome > for > > DNA damage. (I havent confirmed this yet.) DNA gyrase I understand > to > > be the target of quinolone abx. > > > > I havent looked into the possible safety of this combo at all yet. > If > > anyone has reason to think it might be a bad idea, let me know. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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