Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 But Tony, didn't your uncle feel much improved on his ARB? I think it has something to do with the way our disease manifests whether we get results or not. I would love if the salt could do the same thing for me that benicar does. I'm going to try getting more serious about that now that I've read Mark London's analysis of the MP as well as the 2 salt protocols that people are raving about. But as we've discussed many times, Benicar has been a huge life saver for me. You know I don't tolerate drugs that don't get results, and the fact that I still spend $200 a month on Benicar almost 2 years later must tell you something. I've also defied the official protocol by increasing my D intake rather than decreasing it, and I know with certaintly that I feel best IN the sun, not out of it (except when I have a migraine - a symptom which has decreased 5 fold since starting benicar, by the way. I see there's a study on that interesting phenomenon, which Mark cited in his piece). As you know, I'm also one of the people who absolutely cannot tolerate minocycline which is the mainstay of the MP. I was so happy to see Mark point out that some people, healthy or not, cannot tolerate this drug. It gives me the horrible symptoms of psuedotumor cerebri, which is a well established side effect of the drug. (I also noticed that Burrascano was not extremely impressed with the drug during his talk at the lyme conference.) All in all, I thought Mark put together a very balanced analysis of the mp and all the science out there that either supports or disputes it. And I'm happy to see that he's compiled evidence which may support Benicar's effectiveness, but not necessarily for the reasons stated in the MP. He did the same for guaifenisen, which I found amazingly insightful. Reading the official protocol site for gaui, you get a completely different idea about the reasons for using the drug. After reading Mark's elegant, yet simply stated analysis of the drug, I now realize that it's an analgesic, a muscle relaxer, and a blood thinner, derived from tree bark, and has been used for centuries for these purposes. Makes way more sense to me now, why some people benefit from it, and why it can be tolerated for long term with no side effects. penny dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: aAll benicar has done for me and some others is left us with busted arses.I get excited when something clamps inflammation but when it stopped and never worked again(tried several probes on later occasions) I felt the trash heap was all the protocol was good for.I was also not bashfull to try all the other antiogensin drugs in the group to see if there was any inflammation clamping potential after it disappeared on the benicar. I feel like all that group of drugs- the mechanism of action can be beaten by the group of circumstances in the body they are trying to intervene on- also if they got it right they wouldn't keep bringing newer and newer antiogensin drugs into the market.> > I am reviewing this document. The first few sentences caught my eye saying> avoiding all forms of Vitamin D. As a woman diagnosed with MS, I didn't> understand avoidance of vitamin D anyway will continue to review this but> wondered about that specifically> > > > > _____ > > > From: infections > [mailto:infections ] On Behalf Of Kate> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:50 PM> infections > Subject: Re: [infections] Fwd: My web pages on Recuperat-ion,> MP, & guaifenesin.> > > > Then a year and a half ago I discovered the MP, and just finished a > web page on it:> > http://web.mit.edu/london/www/universe.html> > > > Wow! It will take me a while to digest this, but it looks like many of us> could learn something useful from it.> > > > - Kate> > _____> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Penny, I am now thinking, as of reading Mark’s overview of Recuperat-ion, that it is a very different protocol than salt/C. I am thinking that high levels of sodium chloride would be a very different thing from a relatively low intake of sodium citrate. Hey, Mark, wanna do a review of salt/C???? a But Tony, didn't your uncle feel much improved on his ARB? I think it has something to do with the way our disease manifests whether we get results or not. I would love if the salt could do the same thing for me that benicar does. I'm going to try getting more serious about that now that I've read Mark London's analysis of the MP as well as the 2 salt protocols that people are raving about. But as we've discussed many times, Benicar has been a huge life saver for me. You know I don't tolerate drugs that don't get results, and the fact that I still spend $200 a month on Benicar almost 2 years later must tell you something. I've also defied the official protocol by increasing my D intake rather than decreasing it, and I know with certaintly that I feel best IN the sun, not out of it (except when I have a migraine - a symptom which has decreased 5 fold since starting benicar, by the way. I see there's a study on that interesting phenomenon, which Mark cited in his piece). As you know, I'm also one of the people who absolutely cannot tolerate minocycline which is the mainstay of the MP. I was so happy to see Mark point out that some people, healthy or not, cannot tolerate this drug. It gives me the horrible symptoms of psuedotumor cerebri, which is a well established side effect of the drug. (I also noticed that Burrascano was not extremely impressed with the drug during his talk at the lyme conference.) All in all, I thought Mark put together a very balanced analysis of the mp and all the science out there that either supports or disputes it. And I'm happy to see that he's compiled evidence which may support Benicar's effectiveness, but not necessarily for the reasons stated in the MP. He did the same for guaifenisen, which I found amazingly insightful. Reading the official protocol site for gaui, you get a completely different idea about the reasons for using the drug. After reading Mark's elegant, yet simply stated analysis of the drug, I now realize that it's an analgesic, a muscle relaxer, and a blood thinner, derived from tree bark, and has been used for centuries for these purposes. Makes way more sense to me now, why some people benefit from it, and why it can be tolerated for long term with no side effects. penny dumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: a All benicar has done for me and some others is left us with busted arses.I get excited when something clamps inflammation but when it stopped and never worked again(tried several probes on later occasions) I felt the trash heap was all the protocol was good for.I was also not bashfull to try all the other antiogensin drugs in the group to see if there was any inflammation clamping potential after it disappeared on the benicar. I feel like all that group of drugs- the mechanism of action can be beaten by the group of circumstances in the body they are trying to intervene on- also if they got it right they wouldn't keep bringing newer and newer antiogensin drugs into the market. > > I am reviewing this document. The first few sentences caught my eye saying > avoiding all forms of Vitamin D. As a woman diagnosed with MS, I didn't > understand avoidance of vitamin D anyway will continue to review this but > wondered about that specifically > > > > > _____ > > > From: infections > [mailto:infections ] On Behalf Of Kate > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:50 PM > infections > Subject: Re: [infections] Fwd: My web pages on Recuperat-ion, > MP, & guaifenesin. > > > > Then a year and a half ago I discovered the MP, and just finished a > web page on it: > > http://web.mit.edu/london/www/universe.html > > > > Wow! It will take me a while to digest this, but it looks like many of us > could learn something useful from it. > > > > - Kate > > _____ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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