Re: Got my new lab results - Tony

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Thank god betadine acts differently against bacteria than most

antimicrobials and seems to smother them to death so doesn't build

resistance- unfortunately it's good for the surface the deep down

stuff is another story.

tony-

-- In infections , Penny Houle

<pennyhoule@...> wrote:

>

> So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped

me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and

feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except

for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and

it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she

identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single

oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of.

>

> So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's

i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad

thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment).

>

> But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my

research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx.

And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when

I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things " look " fine.

>

> Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up

anything.

>

> Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently,

I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've

been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this

one bug is capable of so much illness.

>

> Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get

that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr.

Odell is dead.

>

> But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared.

>

> The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned

like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my

entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least

I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a

difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up,

especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I

got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their

recipe, see if that eases the burning next time.

>

> I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really

good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking

about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they

have access to your insides.

>

> penny

>

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I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my

surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an

opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny

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Yeah, definitely it's the deep down stuff that I'm worried about. However, if I can actually get my sinuses cleared up, it would be a big step forward. So Tony, have you ever tried iodine against pseudomonas? Does it kill it? pennydumbaussie2000 <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote: Thank god betadine acts differently against bacteria than most antimicrobials and seems to smother them to death so doesn't build resistance- unfortunately it's good for the surface the deep down stuff is another story.tony>> So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache

and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of.> > So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment).> > But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. > > Still no fungal growth. Well

see if the new tests turn up anything.> > Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness.> > Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. > > But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared.> > The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my

head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time.> > I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. > > penny>

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Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an

sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she

identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to

believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea,

especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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Betadine doesn't fail against everything I thorugh it against

> >

> > So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped

> me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and

> feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except

> for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and

> it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she

> identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single

> oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of.

> >

> > So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise,

it's

> i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad

> thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment).

> >

> > But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my

> research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx.

> And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her

when

> I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things " look "

fine.

> >

> > Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up

> anything.

> >

> > Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago.

Apparently,

> I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've

> been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this

> one bug is capable of so much illness.

> >

> > Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get

> that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr.

> Odell is dead.

> >

> > But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared.

> >

> > The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse

burned

> like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout

my

> entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at

least

> I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a

> difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up,

> especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I

> got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to

their

> recipe, see if that eases the burning next time.

> >

> > I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really

> good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking

> about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they

> have access to your insides.

> >

> > penny

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the infection in my sinuses it would be a huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an

oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE

which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's

recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied

again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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Breathe Ease and Iodine don't need prescriptions. I use bleach in my mouth, not my sinuses. :-) The thought scares me. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the infection in my sinuses it would be a huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to

yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and

feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps

3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.

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So Betadine is iodine. I should have known that. What dilution would you use? Glad to hear you don't put bleach in your sinuses:) MariePenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Breathe Ease and Iodine don't need prescriptions. I use bleach in my mouth, not my sinuses. :-) The thought scares me. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the

infection in my sinuses it would be a huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that

brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute.

Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research

has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I

could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.

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2 tsp (10cc) per 1 liter of water was doc's order. 1 tsp per 16 oz is close enough. Add 1 tsp. of breathe ease (or some kind of saline) and no pain. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: So Betadine is iodine. I should have known that. What dilution would you use? Glad to hear you don't put bleach in your sinuses:) MariePenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Breathe Ease and Iodine don't need prescriptions. I use bleach in my mouth, not my sinuses. :-) The thought scares me. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the infection in my sinuses it would be a huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to

the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is

supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And

they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then

again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria

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Unfortunately, my sinuses feel "sloshy" and I feel more like I'm getting an infection than getting rid of it. Will give it more time, but I'm basically off abx here, and I'm not so sure that's a good idea. I just don't know what my other bugs are susceptible to. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: So Betadine is iodine. I should have known that. What dilution would you use? Glad to hear you don't put bleach in your sinuses:) MariePenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Breathe Ease and Iodine don't need prescriptions. I use bleach in my mouth, not my sinuses. :-) The thought scares me. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the infection in my sinuses it would be a huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses

are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for

Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I

cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think

your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.

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I think that may be 1/2 tsp of breathe ease, not a full tsp. Not sure. I used a tsp to 16 oz. last time and it was pretty close to burning. Afterwards, I could really smell salt for quite a while. However, my sinuses also felt drier, so maybe as much salt as you can tolerate is a good idea? the iodine is supposed to do the killing, but salt's very good too. pennyPenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: 2 tsp (10cc) per 1 liter of water was doc's order. 1 tsp per 16 oz is close enough. Add 1 tsp. of breathe ease (or some kind of saline) and no pain. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: So Betadine is iodine. I

should have known that. What dilution would you use? Glad to hear you don't put bleach in your sinuses:) MariePenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Breathe Ease and Iodine don't need prescriptions. I use bleach in my mouth, not my sinuses. :-) The thought scares me. pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: Hi Penny, I am so glad that adding the Breath Ease took away the burning. I am going to ask my doctor who I see next week if he will perscribe it for me. It killed your friends psuedomonas. Wow. That is good news. I have felt for a long time if I could get rid of the infection in my sinuses it would be a

huge step in getting better. Penny, I thought it was you who used bleach in the sinuses. I wonder who it was then. I would never be able to do that as even cleaning with bleach makes me extremely ill. Marie Penny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: Hi Marie, Yes, I have Breathe Ease and added it to the betadine rinse this evening which totally took the burning away. Boy, what an oversight on the part of the doc's office. I'm not the only patient that's been told to use betadine without the salt. I know at least one who suffered through it, but it did kill her pseudomonas. Somebody I know uses bleach! I'm desperate, but not that brave yet! pennyMarie Mayberry <msmabrry@...> wrote: I fighting the psuedomonas in sinuses as well. Ketek knocks it back from green and blood to yellow and slimmy. My next trick is IV as well. He may also want to put me to sleep and do a thorough cleaning. Not really surgery as I have had surgery 4xs and the sinuses are open in fact barely have an sinuses anymore. Also Doc recommended ponaris rinse which I have ordered on line. It is supposed to be soothing and to clear mucous. Also do you know about Breath EASE which is a sinus rinse with Xylitol. Xylitol is supposed to be anti bacterial as well. I think we have talked about xylitol before. I am trying to stay sugar free because of fungus secondary to antibiotic and find I have neuro symptoms with every other sugar subsitute. Penny Houle

<pennyhoule@...> wrote: So just talked to ENT who did my surgery 3 weeks ago. She scoped me again last week, when I was complaining of right ear ache and feeling a little infected. She thought things looked clear, except for a mucous plug in my right sphenoid. She sent it to the lab and it came back positive for Pseudomonas. The good news is she identified the bug. The bad news...it's resistant to every single oral abx they tried. And they tried everything I've ever heard of. So she's recommending betadine rinses 2 x daily. Otherwise, it's i.v. drugs in hospital. (she said that as if I think it's a bad thing, which I don't when it comes to abx treatment). But I'll give the betadine a try first even though all my research has always said you can't kill it

without at least 2 abx. And hopefully in the future I'll have some credibility with her when I say I feel like I'm getting infected, even if things "look" fine. Still no fungal growth. Well see if the new tests turn up anything. Tony, you nailed this pseudomonas over 2 years ago. Apparently, I've cleared the staph and strep and p. acnes with the drugs I've been on, but I cannot shake the pseudomonas. Hard to believe this one bug is capable of so much illness. Then again who knows what's still in my jaw? Can't wait to get that biopsied again, IF I can find someone to do it now that Dr. Odell is dead. But at least I'm working on getting these sinuses cleared. The other thing I have to say is that this Betadine Rinse burned like hell! God, it's painful. I could feel it burning throughout my

entire head. Places I didn't know existed were on fire. So at least I know the betadine's getting in there. I immediately felt a difference in my head after the rinse. Like an opening up, especially on the right side. But I couldn't do the full litre. I got perhaps 3 oz in before giving up. I'm adding some salt to their recipe, see if that eases the burning next time. I also wanted to say I think your betadine baths are a really good idea, especially after reading that website yesterday talking about how easily skin bacteria can do serious damaging once they have access to your insides. penny Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice.