CLA level..pasture fed vs CLA level..pasture fed with grain

December 14, 2001

The CLA level for a 100% pasture fed cow will be 18-22 mg per gram of fat. The

CLA level for a pasture fed cow supplimented with grain of any kind will be in

the 3-6 mg per gram of fat.

The breed of cow does not greatly effect this fatty acid. The ratio of omega 3

to omega 6 will also be effected along with fat soluable vitamin content.

dave

December 15, 2001

I am starting to doubt the value of grass-fed cows.

According to several studies, noticably beneficial

amount of CLA is about 3.5 grams. To get that from

grass-fed animals will take about over 150 grams of

fat, if the CLA level for pasture fed cow is 18-22 mg

per gram of fat. 150 grams doesn't seem practical to

me. Also considering price of meat, milk, and

especially those from grass fed ones, supplements are

a better way to get the needed amount of CLA.

Same applies to EFA's. Take one or two tsp of cod

liver oil, and you will probably compensate for larger

Omega-6 contents in meat and milk from grain fed

animals.

Roman

--- Wetzel <wetz@...> wrote:

> The CLA level for a 100% pasture fed cow will be

> 18-22 mg per gram of fat. The CLA level for a

> pasture fed cow supplimented with grain of any kind

> will be in the 3-6 mg per gram of fat.

> The breed of cow does not greatly effect this fatty

> acid. The ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 will also be

> effected along with fat soluable vitamin content.

>

> dave

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

December 16, 2001

high percentage of the fat cattle butchered in this country have bad livers

due to the high grain ration they were finished on. Since the liver can't

properly function toxins in the critters systems aren't removed and are

deposited in the muscle tissue.

Every time my parents butcher they ask for the liver of their beef, they are

organic, they graze and they feed some grain, not much. The butcher is always

amazed that he has never had to throw one of their livers out. He says he throws

out about 75% of the livers because they look bad.

Grace,

a Augustine

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--anonymous

----- Original Message -----

From: kelly bruns

Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 3:37 PM

Subject: Re: CLA level..pasture fed vs CLA level..pasture

fed with grain

Hi Roman

When we had our CLA levels of our grass-fed milk checked it was 4 times

higher than normally found in store bought milk. My brother was feeding about

half of the grain a typical dairy would feed and his milk was very little

different than store bought milk. He too was grass-based the only difference

being he was feeding some grain.

I also read an article in the Stockman Grass Farmer about some research

done in Utah State that stated that CLA's found naturally occurring in milk

fat and beef fat are six times more effective than the synthetic ones bought

on the store shelf. This also needs to be weighed into the equation.

Another thing that need to be looked at as I have stated before is that the

national average lactation for a typical dairy cow is 1.6 lactation's. These

dairies literally cull more cows that they can raise or buy from other

dairyman. The reason for the high cull rate is because these cows are sick

from various reasons and we are drinking the milk from these cows.

Another well known fact about the beef we buy in our stores is that a very

high percentage of the fat cattle butchered in this country have bad livers

due to the high grain ration they were finished on. Since the liver can't

properly function toxins in the critters systems aren't removed and are

deposited in the muscle tissue. Guess what we eat?

I think there are several things that need to be considered besides CLA

content when buying meat and milk. It is a package deal with CLA's being a

bonus.

Thanks

Roman wrote:

> I am starting to doubt the value of grass-fed cows.

> According to several studies, noticably beneficial

> amount of CLA is about 3.5 grams. To get that from

> grass-fed animals will take about over 150 grams of

> fat, if the CLA level for pasture fed cow is 18-22 mg

> per gram of fat. 150 grams doesn't seem practical to

> me. Also considering price of meat, milk, and

> especially those from grass fed ones, supplements are

> a better way to get the needed amount of CLA.

>

> Same applies to EFA's. Take one or two tsp of cod

> liver oil, and you will probably compensate for larger

> Omega-6 contents in meat and milk from grain fed

> animals.

>

> Roman

>

> --- Wetzel <wetz@...> wrote:

> > The CLA level for a 100% pasture fed cow will be

> > 18-22 mg per gram of fat. The CLA level for a

> > pasture fed cow supplimented with grain of any kind

> > will be in the 3-6 mg per gram of fat.

> > The breed of cow does not greatly effect this fatty

> > acid. The ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 will also be

> > effected along with fat soluable vitamin content.

> >

> > dave

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

December 16, 2001

Another thing that need to be looked at as I have stated before is that the

national average lactation for a typical dairy cow is 1.6 lactation's. These

dairies literally cull more cows that they can raise or buy from other

dairyman. The reason for the high cull rate is because these cows are sick

Yes, my parents sell many dairy heifer calves each year and the price is very

high now because the big dairies need to purchase new calves consistently to

keep their barns full. My parents feel bad selling them to these operations at

the sale barns, but they don't know what else to do, they do not need that many

heifer calves!