Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 Greetings Y'all~ Yes, T'is poor old Cat, ( with the exception of my run-in with the cyber-gods sticking me with Virus' and THEN sucking some drafts out of my TBD( to be done) file...ergo the e-mail that " wasn't " ! Figured I would do some " fell swooping " and cover as many bases as I can without putting everyone into a trance-like state! As it turns out, the topic that I originally planned to " throw " out has to be put on the old back burner...seems there is an even " hotter " topic at hand...It is non other than St. of the tetricycline! I have also read several postings from other people, including Kathleen our " resident " RN and a member of the Board of the Foundation. She has been extremely clear in her e-mails to you, and has been far more articulate ( not to mention polite) on both her own personal concerns and that as a member of the Board than I could have or will be. There are disclaimers everywhere on the site, at the bottom of the SD e-mails dealing with various information..they are pretty much self explanatory. They are posted for a reason..none of us has a medical degree, therefore anything we might say in our postings are from our own personal experience...as in " I noticed WHEN I " ...or in my humble opinion...when you , use this mailing list to TELL people that they should TRY this ...and that what they are on are TERRIBLE drugs...you cross the line..and its OUR line..every member of the list who genuinely CARES about one another...those lines!!! So, lets get serious here , while I may not have felt well enough to post to the group, I have, read the majority of the SD e-mails, yours among them....and this is how I see it from where I sit..You have found something that works for you, and not one person in this group would EVER tell you that they are UNHAPPY that you have found what works for you! However, most of the members have already been the anti-biotics route, I know I have old files from YEARS ago, when the doctors " assumed " that the symptoms HAD to be some sort of " viral " attack so away we went with Anti-biotics.. did NOT work and when that didn't work..NSAIDS...then prednisone ...VERY high doses during a flare 100mgs then tapered down then off. When I or likley MOST people are in pain they will take whatever works...as long as it makes the pain go away..I see that there doesn't seem to be ANYTHING that makes you go away ....got any DIRECTIONS on that question? There is not ONE person here that WANTS to be swallowing large amounts of meds that no doubt may or may NOT do us harm in the future..but for now for the PRESENT we'll take what WE and our Doctors " suggest " we take!!! Then along comes JOHN, with HIS take on this disease AND each one of us. we aren't tough enough..or brave enough?.... while we are at our worst, suggests we " wean " ourselves away from the drugs that are working for us..even if minimally, and take Tetricycline?? Now this is JUST MY humble opinion..........IF people want your advise they will ASK you....Seems you just want to be RIGHT! I am sure that every member has at some point in time read your e-mails singing praises for anti-biotics...again, and again, and again, and in some instances you have been WAY out of line in your glee to bring on board other people who, for one reason or another, might be very fragile. They have arrived firstly for INFORMATION...and Jenns abilities with the web has purty much covered everything available. I wish I had the fabulous information we now have at our fingertips.. 7 years ago.. fortunately...my luck came in the form of Joyce and Aleeta, then Tom, and ah who could forget and Brent! We were all a few lost souls, gradually finding out a bit more, then Dr. Cushs' paper on SD...for some of us this was THE first written word they had on AOSD we'd gotten in our hands...but NEVER did anyone attempt at anytime..to use tactics that were anything BUT personal experiences...and NO one would have BADGERED people the way you have! The " newbies " who find themselves with a diagnosis of Stills Disease, and find our support site, and are SO relieved to find that OTHERS have this disease .If they are anything like some of the " newbies " they are " still " reeling over the Diagnosis. Then finding our site, which has in it a great deal of information to digest. The site covers just about everything there IS to know about AOSD as well as " related " diseases like Fibro and more. They read that many many of us are on or have been on everything from soup (Anti-biotics) to nuts(, Prednisone, Plaquenil, Methotrexate, Gold shots, Celebrex, Vioxx, and (if we are really lucky..Enbrel and Remicade) The NUTS are serious medications, with some very fearful POSSIBLE side effects. We must constantly be on guard for any or all of these possible side effects, but I know that there's not a SINGLE person here, that wouldn't, in a NY minnit swallow, COPIOUS amounts of anti-biotics IF they and their doctors thought they would work for them.. In the majority of cases they don't seem to.......and Dr. Cush and a vast number of RD's have sort of " been there done that " , and have had to pull out the heavy guns! So why would anyone turn a deaf ear to a doctor who has worked SO diligently to HELP people with RA related diseases, and accept what you have to say as gospel? Do you think that Dr. Cush is an evil genius making UP this stuff so that we will all take these VERY serious medications. For what pray tell....perhaps he hold a vast number of stocks in Drug companies, and this is his way of grabbin the gold....nope don't think so! So, what OTHER reason could he have for NOT using YOUR therapy of choice? How about it DOESN'T work for the greatest percentage of people with Stills, and how your climbing on your antibiotic soap box at every turn, only creates more confusion in an already bloody confusing Disease! According to YOUR thought processes everyone else..the RD's the patients...all wrong, and you are right..WRONG! You have had your time in Centre Stage, we have heard thy words and will file them away for " future " reference. It is my fervent hope that you aren't UNlucky enough to encounter a massive Viral illness.. where will THAT leave you? Since you are bombarding your body with anti biotics ......now..what drugs might they use to combat a truly virulent strain of SUPER BUG that has found its way into your body! We are very concerned with your stubborn refusal to wait until someone asks about alternative therapy....I wonder how you might feel if something you had suggested caused someone to be extremely ill..or worse...I certainly wouldn't want something like that on my conscience...so either you don't give a damn...or you aren't troubled by such an emotion! This is pretty much an OPEN support group...and the KEY word here is SUPPORT, and I don't think that your " information " is in the least bit " supportive " . Nor is it coming from a place that is good and trying to inform..there's a huge difference in putting thoughts and ideas " out there " and ramming them down the throats of people who are no longer interested in what you have to say...nor do I wish that the moment you see a new member sending us " herhis-tory " you race off to tell them that you're just another a SD patient with " pearls of wisdom " to impart! SO are YOU are the NEW POSTER Boy for " Stills beaten back with simple anti-biotics " ?I so wish it were only as simple as that..it isn't! We were so pleased to have heard from our newbie Patty, and what was your FIRST response .... about YOUR therapy...there is usually a pleasant letter sent welcoming she/him to our warm and welcoming support group....all of this can be pretty intimidating for our Newbies, allow them to find their footing before tossing that out ...PLEASE!! Or better yet wait until they ASK about anti-biotic therapy! So I have a wonderful idea..since you are " sold " on the therapy that works for you... and obviously it IS working for you, BUT for every YOU there are hundreds..get it HUNDREDS of SD patients that it hasn't worked for and IF you have read most of the info Jenn has gleaned from various places you would see that the percentages of Stills Disease treated successfully with anti-biotics is so small as to be almost non-existent! Now I wish fervently that you too were non-existant..to this group, this mailing list and anything else that is SD and Foundation related! If you are enjoying your pain free, remissive state, why not use your spare time to be with your children, and your family.?.Every day the vast majority of us have to struggle every day to get out of bed, put on shoes, clothes, and TRY to keep our minds from slipping into " overdrive " ...we TRY and live a LIFE in a world that doesn't " SEE " us as being ill.....some of my friends have had to fight and struggle to be awarded a paltry Disability cheque that wouldn't even cover the cost of your anti biotics ! This Foundation and site, is extremely important to just about everyone, oldies, and newbies, so you will have to forgive OUR fervor in protecting the members, and the Foundation from your very likely well-intentioned, but entirely OVER DONE and OVER STATED therapy to which YOU subscribe. If you have noticed there is a disclaimer EVERYWHERE throughout the site..this is to make sure that NO ONE makes the mistake of " assuming " we members of the list and the Foundation have any medical expertise save the things we have learned about OUR OWN PERSONAL experience....and we have " seen " your garbage and do NOT wish any more of it... So, since you seem to have the need for a platform, and according to you , you have your OWN site...... may I suggest that you head on down the road and stick with YOUR experiences on your own site... there you can scream your own, very special virtues and your drugs of choice.....to the skies, and any OTHER people who may share YOUR views! Why not start a mailing list through YOUR site and thereby exchange YOUR daily version of Stills Disease ..... and Tetricycline Therapy According to St. ! There has been many members that have asked you, nicely and maybe NOT so nicely to please get the hell outta Stilligan's Island...Go and leave the getting BETTER to US! To the new members, I apologise if you have wandered into something that resembles a war zone, and believe me when I say we rarely have " problems " with zealots who have found " Nirvana " in a drug called Tetricycline. This is another " disclaimer " of sorts. The information being touted by St. is not nor has ever been a part of the SD Foundation or membership. While we have always supported everyone's views here, this " issue " with is one that can only be described as foolhardy information, disassembled by the inane rambling of what is obviously a deceased/diseased mind....he figures he's " built a better mousetrap " and we are to be his pigeons..or maybe guinea pigs...so please take his rambling with a grain of salt, and file the info away somewhere " safe " like the garberator. None of the sane and rational people would be SO adamant at " making people aware " ! Me thinks he doth protest TOO much. We are all here to help one another but this fella is NOT helping anyone he is hindering us.....so remember the grain of salt.....and name it ! Regards Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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