Re: Penny... Regimen revised again. :-)

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Yes, Another important component that I left out of my

summary....alkalinizing the cells.

In my lengthier post I mentioned that I'm going to start Plaquenil

for this purpose. However, I know my magnesium levels are low, and

I'm concerned about tendon problems after my cipro experience, so

I've been doing some Magnesium i.v.s before starting the Plaq. (I

just took my first P. today, wish me luck.)

I've never been convinced that C acidifies the body. For example,

lemon juice, although acidic, when it hits the gut immediately

becomes alkaline through some chemical interaction. I don't recall

the specifics but I find it hard to believe that C is going to

acidify us much.

I'm not taking all of these (especially the supplements) as

religiously as I could or should. It's just what I'm focusing on.

The first three, I do take religiously as they have the biggest

impact on my overall health.

Anti-infection - abx - penicillin (zithro, etc.)

Anti-inflammatory - arb - benicar (telmesartan, ibuprofen, etc.)

Anti fungal - v-fend (diflucan, sporenox, nystatin, pro biotics etc.)

De-tox - chlorella (charcoal, etc.)

Blood thinning/anti-coagulant - nattokinase (bromelain, heparin, etc)

Anti-oxidants - (or a/o enzyme precursors as in Protandem)

Alkalinizer - Plaquenil or...

Flagyl - not sure what category to put this under because it's not

clear why it seems to be working for people. My doc thinks it's

because there are actual parasites, but I think more may be going on.

Nutritional aids:

Digestive enzymes - Candex or...

Nattokinase (for sticky blood)

Nutritional supplements: (these are specific to my deficiencies, but

seem to be common among pwc.)

Vit Bs - specific to my deficiencies (or b-complex)

Magnesium

Vit D

vitamin C - (bio-film buster, anti-oxidant etc.)

salt - (for bp and bugs)

Hygeine:

keep mouth and sinuses clean with antimicrobials such as:

salt, H202, iodine, silver, bleach, xylitol, grapefruit extract, etc.

Testing:

Regular blood testing or scanning (to search for possible focal

infections).

I just wanted to put this outline out there, because it's taken me a

long time to get to this point. I know it looks like a lot, but if

you realize why all of these areas probably need to be addressed in

our illness, then it's easier to focus on finding the remedies that

work best for you. We all have various manifestations of our

illness, so obviously the thing that works for one may not work for

another. That's where trial and error comes in, but in general, I

think many of us share these common problem areas, co-infections,

inflammation, toxicity (poryphia), gut flora/ph imbalances,

coagulation/vascular issues and nutritional deficiencies. Probably

oxygen as well. Any way you can get more oxygen into the cells is

good (breathing, mild exercise, possibly HBOT). Many of our other

symptoms, like endocrine, neuro, etc. probably stem from these other

issues which have a kind of cascading effect. For me, reducing the

infection and the inflammation have allowed me to start climbing

higher up the ladder of this illness.

Until I started knocking back my bugs with the right abx, and adding

the anti-inflammatory and then the anti-fungal, it was pretty hard

to focus on all the other things that could help me get better. It's

a struggle to even get to the doctor when I'm CFSing. Since taking

Penicillin/Benicar/V-fend, I've been taking control of my health &

life again and the other treatment modalities are starting to fall

together.

Kate <KateDunlay@h...> wrote:

>

> Great summary Penny, and it is good to hear you are doing well.

>

> On Friday, November 4, 2005, at 01:53 PM, penny wrote:

>

> > -Vitamin C (also good for detox and as an antioxidant)

>

> Donta says avoid C because you want the cells to be alkalyzed, not

> acidified. So do people on the Salt/C protocol take whatever that

C

> product is that is neutralized, and does that make it all okay? I

feel

> I am not getting enough C, but I have been hesitant to take it,

> especially since it seems I may not be able to tolerate Plaquenil

> (maybe I should look into the other drug that can be used for

> alkalizing -- although Plaquenil seems better because it also

kills

> cyst forms).

>

> - Kate

>