Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Sorry for intruding but I beleive you are mixing up dietary sugar/blood glucose and the external application of table sugar for wound healing. Dietary sugars and carbohydrates will definitely promote the growth of systemic candida albicans if it is present. Nothing at all can grow in pure table sugar applied externally because of its drying/osmotic effect. blessings..| --- SL Pedigo wrote: > Hi Janet, > > So why do anti candida diets say to restrict dietary > sugar? They send you off allll dietary sugars from > fruit to breads etc as though it were directly > feeding candida. > > Do they increase the d-glucose in the blood > significantly enough that it could be beneficial in > reducing candida? > > Thx. SL > > > > Re: dog with pressure sore > > > A little information misinterpretted is a > dangerous thing Barb. Sugar > is a very broad term and means much more than > sucrose. The sugar that > Candida feeds on in the body is not sucrose / > table sugar! It is blood > sugar which is d-glucose, only. > > Starches (chains of sugars) and all simple or > compound sugars are > convert to d-glucose in the mouth and stomach. > There is more specific > information in any good physiology or biochemistry > text book if you > want the exact pathways. Look up the digestive > enzymes and where they > are secreted. > > Candida occupies the lower gut, for the most part, > where its only > access to sugar is what is carried in blood. > Although it can also > occur in the lungs, sinuses and other body organs. > It is not feeding > on the sugars in your diet. And it does not grow > on table sugar so > treating a wound with sugar does NOT encourage > fungal growth. What > does encourage fungal growth in a wound is leaking > plasma, which > contains d-glucose. Sugar absorbs and removes the > leaky plasma so that > fungus does not grow in the wound. > > Garnet > > > > > > Barb, > > > > If you have documentation of this claim I am all > ears. <smile> Fungi > > thrives on cellulose, that is why it grows on > dust, wall paper paste, > > wood and vegetative tissue. Garnet > > > > > > ********************************************************************************\ ******* > > > > Garnet, > > > > I was referring to Candidiasis ( a yeast > fungus). Sorry for > not making myself clear. Barb > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Yeah. In addition, I think lots of people " think " they have a mysterious disease called systemic candida and it's really not actually real. VERY rarely will Candida become a systemic problem IMO Sorry for intruding but I beleive you are mixing up dietary sugar/blood glucose and the external application of table sugar for wound healing. Dietary sugars and carbohydrates will definitely promote the growth of systemic candida albicans if it is present. Nothing at all can grow in pure table sugar applied externally because of its drying/osmotic effect. blessings..| --- SL Pedigo wrote: > Hi Janet, > > So why do anti candida diets say to restrict dietary > sugar? They send you off allll dietary sugars from > fruit to breads etc as though it were directly > feeding candida. > > Do they increase the d-glucose in the blood > significantly enough that it could be beneficial in > reducing candida? > > Thx. SL > > > > Re: dog with pressure sore > > > A little information misinterpretted is a > dangerous thing Barb. Sugar > is a very broad term and means much more than > sucrose. The sugar that > Candida feeds on in the body is not sucrose / > table sugar! It is blood > sugar which is d-glucose, only. > > Starches (chains of sugars) and all simple or > compound sugars are > convert to d-glucose in the mouth and stomach. > There is more specific > information in any good physiology or biochemistry > text book if you > want the exact pathways. Look up the digestive > enzymes and where they > are secreted. > > Candida occupies the lower gut, for the most part, > where its only > access to sugar is what is carried in blood. > Although it can also > occur in the lungs, sinuses and other body organs. > It is not feeding > on the sugars in your diet. And it does not grow > on table sugar so > treating a wound with sugar does NOT encourage > fungal growth. What > does encourage fungal growth in a wound is leaking > plasma, which > contains d-glucose. Sugar absorbs and removes the > leaky plasma so that > fungus does not grow in the wound. > > Garnet > > > > > > Barb, > > > > If you have documentation of this claim I am all > ears. <smile> Fungi > > thrives on cellulose, that is why it grows on > dust, wall paper paste, > > wood and vegetative tissue. Garnet > > > > > > *************************************************************************************** > > > > Garnet, > > > > I was referring to Candidiasis ( a yeast > fungus). Sorry for > not making myself clear. Barb > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Osiyo Dirk Coetsee! I may have to change your perception of systemic Candida or Candidasis which I have had and took 18 months to cure (all before knowing or remembering about CS). Systemic candida is rare and always un-diagnosed by MD's without prior experience. I went thru two MD's with no joy. My Family Doc said he could not help me as he was "not smart enough". I developed candidiasis after a second forty day anti-biotic regimen for bronchitis. My symptoms were: Allergic to everything, coated tongue, frequent dark urination, severe constipation, headaches - including migraines, facial swelling where my lips would be 20 times larger, eyes totally swollen shut, cauliflower ears, rashes, hives, and red swellings, severe sinus congestion, bloating, belching, and indigestion, also others I do not remember right now. Western medicine is ignorant of this affliction. I was directed to a practicing DO (Osteopath Dr.) by my Acupuncturist and five minutes in her office she diagnosed my candidasis. I told her I felt like I was dying and her comment was "yes! you are" because the candida produces a toxin called Mycelex and yes it is fatally toxic. She said that my immune system quit everything except the Mycelex target because of the deadliness. This made me allergic to everything imaginable from peoples breath to flowers. She said every mucus membrane in my body was infected. I wish I had known of internal CS then because I had to take a very bad Diflucan 200 mg prescription twice daily and it really does a job on the liver. But thanks to Milk Thistle I did not sustain any permanent damage. After 18 months I felt I was starving cause of the strict diet enforced to starve out the candida albicans infection. LoveBobAdageyudiStaya Udanvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hi Bob, I believe it can happen, but it's VERY rare for Candida to actually leave either the intestines/GI tract and get into the blood stream IMO. I also suffer with Candida on and off. I have no had much luck with CS, but Diflucan helps a bit in time. Osiyo Dirk Coetsee! I may have to change your perception of systemic Candida or Candidasis which I have had and took 18 months to cure (all before knowing or remembering about CS). Systemic candida is rare and always un-diagnosed by MD's without prior experience. I went thru two MD's with no joy. My Family Doc said he could not help me as he was " not smart enough " . I developed candidiasis after a second forty day anti-biotic regimen for bronchitis. My symptoms were: Allergic to everything, coated tongue, frequent dark urination, severe constipation, headaches - including migraines, facial swelling where my lips would be 20 times larger, eyes totally swollen shut, cauliflower ears, rashes, hives, and red swellings, severe sinus congestion, bloating, belching, and indigestion, also others I do not remember right now. Western medicine is ignorant of this affliction. I was directed to a practicing DO (Osteopath Dr.) by my Acupuncturist and five minutes in her office she diagnosed my candidasis. I told her I felt like I was dying and her comment was " yes! you are " because the candida produces a toxin called Mycelex and yes it is fatally toxic. She said that my immune system quit everything except the Mycelex target because of the deadliness. This made me allergic to everything imaginable from peoples breath to flowers. She said every mucus membrane in my body was infected. I wish I had known of internal CS then because I had to take a very bad Diflucan 200 mg prescription twice daily and it really does a job on the liver. But thanks to Milk Thistle I did not sustain any permanent damage. After 18 months I felt I was starving cause of the strict diet enforced to starve out the candida albicans infection. LoveBobAdageyudiStaya Udanvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I'm curious in what form you took Milk thistle and how much? Barb Re: candida sugar I wish I had known of internal CS then because I had to take a very bad Diflucan 200 mg prescription twice daily and it really does a job on the liver. But thanks to Milk Thistle I did not sustain any permanent damage. After 18 months I felt I was starving cause of the strict diet enforced to starve out the candida albicans infection. LoveBobAdageyudiStaya Udanvti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > ...snip... In addition, if you cut > all carbs out your diet (been there, done that) then it actually contributes > to dysbiosis since your normal bowel flora have nothing to eat either. Take > lots of probiotics! I like EM. Interestingly, Candida can't seem to digest > dietary xyltiol! Beneficial gut organisms feed on Fructooligosaccharides, which are in water soluble fiber. Eat more fiber. Does not have to fruit or sweets, it can be in the form of greens, lettuce, veggies etc. And yes lots of probiotics, especially the liquid type that is very high in counts and has more species, which are local to each part of the gut wall. You can't get enough in a dried pill or yogurt when you are killing Candida and want to recolonize the gut immediately to prevent further dysbiosis. See Allergies and Candida by Rochlitz for more details. www.wellatlast.com Garnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Is that book worth buying? > ...snip... In addition, if you cut > all carbs out your diet (been there, done that) then it actually contributes > to dysbiosis since your normal bowel flora have nothing to eat either. Take > lots of probiotics! I like EM. Interestingly, Candida can't seem to digest > dietary xyltiol! Beneficial gut organisms feed on Fructooligosaccharides, which are in water soluble fiber. Eat more fiber. Does not have to fruit or sweets, it can be in the form of greens, lettuce, veggies etc. And yes lots of probiotics, especially the liquid type that is very high in counts and has more species, which are local to each part of the gut wall. You can't get enough in a dried pill or yogurt when you are killing Candida and want to recolonize the gut immediately to prevent further dysbiosis. See Allergies and Candida by Rochlitz for more details. www.wellatlast.com Garnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > > Hi Bob, > > I believe it can happen, but it's VERY rare for Candida to actually leave > either the intestines/GI tract and get into the blood stream IMO. I also > suffer with Candida on and off. I have no had much luck with CS, but > Diflucan helps a bit in time. Both my daughter and I had Candida show up on lung cultures. It is difficult to culture any fungus, you have to grow it out on a Collagen added media which many labs don't know about, and it has to grow out much longer than bacterial cultures. Also many labs are very poor at identification of specific fungal species. CS orally is not going to reach the large intestines insufficient concentration. Enemas and mixing with DMSO orally or in an enema is going to deliver it more efficiently. > Garnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hmm. Never treid enemas with it. Good idea, reallyOn 10/18/06, garnetridge <garnetridge@... > wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > I believe it can happen, but it's VERY rare for Candida to actually leave > either the intestines/GI tract and get into the blood stream IMO. I also > suffer with Candida on and off. I have no had much luck with CS, but > Diflucan helps a bit in time. Both my daughter and I had Candida show up on lung cultures. It is difficult to culture any fungus, you have to grow it out on a Collagen added media which many labs don't know about, and it has to grow out much longer than bacterial cultures. Also many labs are very poor at identification of specific fungal species. CS orally is not going to reach the large intestines insufficient concentration. Enemas and mixing with DMSO orally or in an enema is going to deliver it more efficiently. > Garnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 A resounding YES! It is a great book and I refer to it often. It has a set of meridian balancing " manuvers " that were a huge part in my healing and probably good for anyone under stress or who was ever put in a walker or walking shoes as a child. His theory on lack of a cross crawl is echoed by Doman and the Brain Gym guy. If you are not sure you could always ask your library to borrow it on interlibrary loan and take a look at it first. The interlibrary loan program is fanatastic and usually free at larger libraries, not so much in small towns as they need the money. But if the book is not in your local library this is a network of libraries that share books. I have saved thousands on books that I would have had to buy but for this program. There are a lot of books that I don't need to keep in my collection. Besides it saves trees. <g> Sorry to take so long in responding. Only part of the email from Yahoo is coming through and I have had little time to read messages on the web to be sure I am not missing any. > > > > > ...snip... In addition, if you cut > > > all carbs out your diet (been there, done that) then it actually > > contributes > > > to dysbiosis since your normal bowel flora have nothing to eat > > either. Take > > > lots of probiotics! I like EM. Interestingly, Candida can't seem to > > digest > > > dietary xyltiol! > > > > Beneficial gut organisms feed on Fructooligosaccharides, which are in > > water soluble fiber. Eat more fiber. Does not have to fruit or sweets, > > it can be in the form of greens, lettuce, veggies etc. > > > > And yes lots of probiotics, especially the liquid type that is very > > high in counts and has more species, which are local to each part of > > the gut wall. You can't get enough in a dried pill or yogurt when you > > are killing Candida and want to recolonize the gut immediately to > > prevent further dysbiosis. > > > > See Allergies and Candida by Rochlitz for more details. > > www.wellatlast.com > > > > Garnet > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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