Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Hi Tony, Are the photos on the website? If so I cannot access the members section even though I am a member. If you are sending attachments they are not coming through. > Hi all > I'm sure all your eyes are glazed over waiting for another piccy.I had > this second lyme person send me a few samples.This is a culture plate > with a hair sample. You will notice strong heavy growths around the > hair where it sits on the agar.This at first inspection looks > comfortably like a coagulase negative staph but it may still be a > coagulase positive.But regradless of what this is it's hard to observe > in the photo but it's showing a BETA HAEMOLYSIS on HBA (agar)-this for > you feeling toxic crowd is the one and only 'highly present in fatigue > patients'.I also feel when they express these types of toxins there > more likely to be the only inhabitor of that space hence no other > bugs..My query to this host is how are your red cells ? do you have a > mild anemia?any queries welcome-no german's though. > tony > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Just in the photo's -files and chat are just above click and go in and have a look. let us know. cheers tony > > > > Hi Tony, > Are the photos on the website? If so I cannot access the members section > even though I am a member. If you are sending attachments they are not > coming through. > > > > Hi all > > I'm sure all your eyes are glazed over waiting for another piccy.I had > > this second lyme person send me a few samples.This is a culture plate > > with a hair sample. You will notice strong heavy growths around the > > hair where it sits on the agar.This at first inspection looks > > comfortably like a coagulase negative staph but it may still be a > > coagulase positive.But regradless of what this is it's hard to observe > > in the photo but it's showing a BETA HAEMOLYSIS on HBA (agar)- this for > > you feeling toxic crowd is the one and only 'highly present in fatigue > > patients'.I also feel when they express these types of toxins there > > more likely to be the only inhabitor of that space hence no other > > bugs..My query to this host is how are your red cells ? do you have a > > mild anemia?any queries welcome-no german's though. > > tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Tony...the picture where there are zones of inhibition for some of the little circles and not others...are those different abx you're testing? The first pic I couldn't figure out--was that the hair sample? If psuedonomonads are overgrowing in 2 lyme patients adn they are usually not opportunistic it makes me think again that lyme suppresses immunity. There are many lyme patients with chornic yeast problems that clear up on antibiotic therapy which is counterintuitive, except that if you get rid of the lyme you're getting rid of the immune suppressor. Could you test sporonax, diflucan on those samples? And allicin. Thanx mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 >any queries welcome-no german's though. Botzenhart, K., Puhr, O.F., and Doring, G. 1985. Pseudomonas aeruginosa in the oral cavity of healthy adults: frequency and age distribution. Zentralbl. Bakteriol. Hyg. I. Abt. Orig. B. 180:471-479. From another source: " P. aeruginosa is occasionally recovered and isolated from healthy humans. It has been isolated occasionally from the oral cavities of overtly healthy adults, with the highest isolation rate occurring in the 54 to 63 year-old age group.39 P. aeruginosa was found in the feces of 1.2 to 2.3% of otherwise healthy individuals in several studies.4 Within the intestinal tract, numbers of the organism may be limited by gastric acidity and substances produced by anaerobic and facultative anaerobic flora (i.e., volatile fatty acids produced by Bacteroides spp.).40 Should normal bacterial flora be eliminated following antibiotic therapy, then P. aeruginosa can opportunistically colonize the intestinal tract.41 " http://www.criver.com/techdocs/pseudomonas.html So - while I wouldnt say this patients illness and/or antibacterial use (if any) is unassociated with the presence of pseudomonads, nor would I say that their illness isnt caused by pseudomonads - I would beware strongly of concluding that it necessarily *is* caused by pseudomonads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 What's curious is that nothing else grew. > > >any queries welcome-no german's though. > > Botzenhart, K., Puhr, O.F., and Doring, G. 1985. Pseudomonas > aeruginosa in the oral cavity of healthy adults: frequency and age > distribution. > Zentralbl. Bakteriol. Hyg. I. Abt. Orig. B. 180:471-479. > > From another source: > > " P. aeruginosa is occasionally recovered and isolated from healthy > humans. It has been isolated occasionally from the oral cavities of > overtly healthy adults, with the highest isolation rate occurring in > the 54 to 63 year-old age group.39 P. aeruginosa was found in the > feces of 1.2 to 2.3% of otherwise healthy individuals in several > studies.4 Within the intestinal tract, numbers of the organism may be > limited by gastric acidity and substances produced by anaerobic and > facultative anaerobic flora (i.e., volatile fatty acids produced by > Bacteroides spp.).40 Should normal bacterial flora be eliminated > following antibiotic therapy, then P. aeruginosa can > opportunistically colonize the intestinal tract.41 " > > http://www.criver.com/techdocs/pseudomonas.html > > So - while I wouldnt say this patients illness and/or antibacterial > use (if any) is unassociated with the presence of pseudomonads, nor > would I say that their illness isnt caused by pseudomonads - I would > beware strongly of concluding that it necessarily *is* caused by > pseudomonads. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Yeah mate Jobs done as we speak, I tried a few brits and pieces.Yeah the one is the hair sample from this dude, you'll notice the growths occur pretty heavy in touch the agar zones.The key to that sample is the toxin that isn't showing great on pictures, beta haemolysin is MR. BLING BLING IN THE FATIGUE GAME.The drug choices include cipro gentamicin amoxacillin augmentin ceftriaxone cephalexin and a few others the cipro shows some promise but it's a dud drug in my opinion because it tends to stun bacteria as opposed to absolute anihalation.The tick angle is like going to an ice cream parlour and asking for lamb after confessing your a vegetarian.The big play is- everyone's on a base and you want to hit a home run- is to pay attention to the damage the organisms do to your red blood cells. The damage is like hailstones in size it's not some 1% of damage your getting a thrashing that swiungs one third of your blood counts??????People should pay attention closely to there blood reports because a major swing that's classified normal also means you may have heart disease(infection), bone infection or cancer..I think the doctors 'Oh everything is normal' should be taken into the context- I'm here my insurance company only allows me to pull some of this shit so f... it I'll get away with this extra test.The results didn't really matter . tony > > Tony...the picture where there are zones of inhibition for some of the > little circles and not others...are those different abx you're testing? > > The first pic I couldn't figure out--was that the hair sample? > > If psuedonomonads are overgrowing in 2 lyme patients adn they are > usually not opportunistic it makes me think again that lyme suppresses > immunity. There are many lyme patients with chornic yeast problems > that clear up on antibiotic therapy which is counterintuitive, except > that if you get rid of the lyme you're getting rid of the immune > suppressor. > > Could you test sporonax, diflucan on those samples? And allicin. > > Thanx mate. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 My gut feeling is pseudonmdas puts the feels like fungus into our ilness, I never find it systemically like the staph epidermis. I see that staph epidermis in this patient capable of pumping his blood counts down 20 to 30 % ..So if you have a major organism that has no obvious competition in the majority of the body and cavities and you have the beta haemolysis it's impact on the person is there for anyone to observe..Actualkly this who;le arguement of open and shut case would be to observe all those toxic particles with an electron microscope- anyone with major fatigue should have large volumes of these toxins and most of teh population will have varying degree's depending on there detox ability. I'm looking for an electron microscope if any uni's are selling there's- they look pretty cool.I really feel that some bacteria are p [roducing toxins that are about the size of a virus and act very similar to a virus except they don't multiply the bacteria just makes em. > > >any queries welcome-no german's though. > > Botzenhart, K., Puhr, O.F., and Doring, G. 1985. Pseudomonas > aeruginosa in the oral cavity of healthy adults: frequency and age > distribution. > Zentralbl. Bakteriol. Hyg. I. Abt. Orig. B. 180:471-479. > > From another source: > > " P. aeruginosa is occasionally recovered and isolated from healthy > humans. It has been isolated occasionally from the oral cavities of > overtly healthy adults, with the highest isolation rate occurring in > the 54 to 63 year-old age group.39 P. aeruginosa was found in the > feces of 1.2 to 2.3% of otherwise healthy individuals in several > studies.4 Within the intestinal tract, numbers of the organism may be > limited by gastric acidity and substances produced by anaerobic and > facultative anaerobic flora (i.e., volatile fatty acids produced by > Bacteroides spp.).40 Should normal bacterial flora be eliminated > following antibiotic therapy, then P. aeruginosa can > opportunistically colonize the intestinal tract.41 " > > http://www.criver.com/techdocs/pseudomonas.html > > So - while I wouldnt say this patients illness and/or antibacterial > use (if any) is unassociated with the presence of pseudomonads, nor > would I say that their illness isnt caused by pseudomonads - I would > beware strongly of concluding that it necessarily *is* caused by > pseudomonads. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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