Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 There is a perfectly good reason why sugar is always rationed during times of war. Rest assured it is NOT because it is needed in the soldiers' tea and coffee! It is used as a wound dressing. We met a fellow whose family lived in France during WW11. He told us, everytime bombs were dropped on a city, sugar carts were employed to shovel sugar onto the dead and wounded. This prevented infection from setting in on those who were still alive and preventing stench from rotting flesh of those who were dead. This also gave the doctors a much more pleasant environment to work in as they made their way through the streets separating the dead from the wounded. Sugar is truly a valuable commodity on the battle fields (its only enemy that I know of is excessive moisture - water). Sugar will still flow in temperatures exceeding well over 100 degrees or temperatures well below freezing. The same cannot be said about honey. Barb Re: dog with pressure sore It never occurred to me, but you're absolutely right. Regardless of how long I've stored sugar, regardless of storage conditions or containers, I have NEVER seen mold. Barb Leppky wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 This is fascinating information, Barb! My daughter has an ulceration? I guess you would call it. Have looked at a lot of toe diseases and think it might be paronychia, which is a staff type infection. We have tried antibiotics, both internal and topical, microelectricity, CS, DMSO, urine, you name it it doesn’t seem to help very much or for very long. Last night I packed it in sugar and there appeared to be some improvement. I can only pack it at night as bandages are too uncomfortable for her to wear at school. She is in marching band and that is hard enough on the feet without an injury because of the type of shoes she has to wear with the uniform. I am going to see how this goes. Nikki There is a perfectly good reason why sugar is always rationed during times of war. Rest assured it is NOT because it is needed in the soldiers' tea and coffee! It is used as a wound dressing. We met a fellow whose family lived in France during WW11. He told us, everytime bombs were dropped on a city, sugar carts were employed to shovel sugar onto the dead and wounded. This prevented infection from setting in on those who were still alive and preventing stench from rotting flesh of those who were dead. This also gave the doctors a much more pleasant environment to work in as they made their way through the streets separating the dead from the wounded. Sugar is truly a valuable commodity on the battle fields (its only enemy that I know of is excessive moisture - water). Sugar will still flow in temperatures exceeding well over 100 degrees or temperatures well below freezing. The same cannot be said about honey. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Thanks, Barb. But I have already treated for fungal and it helped not a whit. However, the sugar showed more improvement this morning and there was no bleeding and her pain is decreasing except for the 3 hour marching rehearsal yesterday in those horrible shoes. But marching season is only about another month and she won’t give that up. I believe that child would march on stumps if her feet fell off, she loves band so much. I am going to continue this treatment and see how it goes. Will keep it posted. Regards, Nikki That sounds like a fungal infection. I have my doubts if sugar would work on a fungus (since fungi actually thrive on sugar). I would suggest to have it properly diagnosed and if it is a fungus, then you may want to give one of the following a try - camphor, tea tree oil or oil of oregano. All are powerful anti-fungal agents. Good luck! Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 > > That sounds like a fungal infection. I have my doubts if sugar would work on a fungus (since fungi actually thrive on sugar). I would suggest to have it properly diagnosed and if it is a fungus, then you may want to give one of the following a try - camphor, tea tree oil or oil of oregano. All are powerful anti-fungal agents. Good luck! Barb Barb, If you have documentation of this claim I am all ears. <smile> Fungi thrives on cellulose, that is why it grows on dust, wall paper paste, wood and vegetative tissue. Have you ever seen sugar grow mold? Mold can not utilize sucrose. Actually no microbes will grow on sucrose, or table sugar. It is a traditional wound treatment and also draws water from edema. I used to treat fungal skin infections with Sugardine, table sugar mixed with Betadine Ointment. Worked very well Oil of Oregano is great stuff! Make sure you buy the high Cravacol type. I recently used it to clear an abcess in a dog's pad, well on the side of it, it was swollen and very sore, but with O-o-O it cleared without even having to open and drain. Just resolved internally. I use it with Emu Oil, 10 drops to one tablespoon for hot spots on dogs. This site has excellent quality and good prices. http://av-at.com/about.html Garnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Barb,If you have documentation of this claim I am all ears. <smile> Fungithrives on cellulose, that is why it grows on dust, wall paper paste,wood and vegetative tissue. Garnet *************************************************************************************** Garnet, I was referring to Candidiasis ( a yeast fungus). Sorry for not making myself clear. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 This thread is really fascinating. Is there a situation where it would not be a good idea to pack the wound with sugar? Two of Bear's paws have been chewed bloody and bottom skin torn off (allergic reaction). They're partially healing, but I wonder if the sugar particles would be " abrasive " on his paws when packed in sugar in a dog bootie when walking? -- Thanks, B. (human), Bear SD (wise ol' Shar Pei), Sweet Pea SD CGC (clumsy Great Dane) & Little Pea *meow!* (tuxedo cat) & Little Whiskers (Shar Pei/JRT mix, future sports star!) in the land of Colorado... http://home.att.net/~thepeas [updated 01/14/06] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 It hasn't been on my daughter's toe. I moisten it first, though, to help it pack around the wound. Speaking of which, it is not completely healed but there is vast improvement. In time I think it will do the job. Nikki "deaf.way" wrote: This thread is really fascinating. Is there a situation where it would not be a good idea to pack the wound with sugar? Two of Bear's paws have been chewed bloody and bottom skin torn off (allergic reaction). They're partially healing, but I wonder if the sugar particles would be "abrasive" on his paws when packed in sugar in a dog bootie when walking?-- Thanks, B. (human), Bear SD (wise ol' Shar Pei), Sweet Pea SD CGC (clumsy Great Dane) & Little Pea *meow!* (tuxedo cat) & Little Whiskers (Shar Pei/JRT mix, future sports star!) in the land of Colorado...http://home.att.net/~thepeas [updated 01/14/06] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 A little information misinterpretted is a dangerous thing Barb. Sugar is a very broad term and means much more than sucrose. The sugar that Candida feeds on in the body is not sucrose / table sugar! It is blood sugar which is d-glucose, only. Starches (chains of sugars) and all simple or compound sugars are convert to d-glucose in the mouth and stomach. There is more specific information in any good physiology or biochemistry text book if you want the exact pathways. Look up the digestive enzymes and where they are secreted. Candida occupies the lower gut, for the most part, where its only access to sugar is what is carried in blood. Although it can also occur in the lungs, sinuses and other body organs. It is not feeding on the sugars in your diet. And it does not grow on table sugar so treating a wound with sugar does NOT encourage fungal growth. What does encourage fungal growth in a wound is leaking plasma, which contains d-glucose. Sugar absorbs and removes the leaky plasma so that fungus does not grow in the wound. Garnet > > Barb, > > If you have documentation of this claim I am all ears. <smile> Fungi > thrives on cellulose, that is why it grows on dust, wall paper paste, > wood and vegetative tissue. Garnet > > ********************************************************************************\ ******* > > Garnet, > > I was referring to Candidiasis ( a yeast fungus). Sorry for not making myself clear. Barb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 > > Thanks for the valuable info! Why then are people suffering from Candida told to avoid sugar, honey, dried fruits, cookies, candies, jam etc.,? My " Encyclopedia of Natural Healing " says this - Candida yeast thrives on sugar. And then lists all the above 'sugar' items. page 560. Because dietary sugars are going to elevate the level of blood glucose over 100 mg/ml, that is they are going to spike your levels of blood sugar. As well undigested complex carbs that might make it to your large intestines, where most Candida resides are available to the fungus to ferment. But mostly it is feeding on d-glucose in your blood, the hyphae of the fungus penetrates the gut wall and blood vessels to feed. This is the cause of leaky gut and the origin of the food and chemical allergies. As these pass through the leaky gut they enter the peritoneal cavity where the immune system detects a foreign substance and creates an immune reaction -- allergy. >I make my own wine and bread and I do know this much - yeast DOES thrive on sugar - all types of sugars. I never said yeast does not eat sugar, it does not live in sucrose, nothing grows in sugar. Yeast will grow in flour if you add only water, it does not require sugar to grow because it can digest cellulose and convert starch to sugar. Flour is starch and cellulose is also present. >Nor did I ever suggest that treating a wound with sugar would encourage fugal growth. Then I misread your message. Others might have as well. It did bear clarification. >And what determines our blood sugar levels if not the very foods we eat? Yes the foods we eat do determine our blood sugar levels. As well as the functionality of our pancreas which excretes the hormones insulin and glucagon. Glucagon counter balances the action of insulin at the cell membrane level and stop its action. Garnet > Re: dog with pressure sore > > > >A little information misinterpretted is a dangerous thing Barb. Sugar > > is a very broad term and means much more than sucrose. The sugar that > > Candida feeds on in the body is not sucrose / table sugar! It is blood > > sugar which is d-glucose, only. > > > > Starches (chains of sugars) and all simple or compound sugars are > > convert to d-glucose in the mouth and stomach. There is more specific > > information in any good physiology or biochemistry text book if you > > want the exact pathways. Look up the digestive enzymes and where they > > are secreted. > > > > Candida occupies the lower gut, for the most part, where its only > > access to sugar is what is carried in blood. Although it can also > > occur in the lungs, sinuses and other body organs. It is not feeding > > on the sugars in your diet. And it does not grow on table sugar so > > treating a wound with sugar does NOT encourage fungal growth. What > > does encourage fungal growth in a wound is leaking plasma, which > > contains d-glucose. Sugar absorbs and removes the leaky plasma so that > > fungus does not grow in the wound. > > > > Garnet > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 I went back to my original post to see if it did indeed need clarification. I was responding to Nikki, who wrote "This is fascinating information, Barb! My daughter has an ulceration? I guess you would call it. Have looked at a lot of toe diseases and think it might be paronychia, which is a staff type infection. We have tried antibiotics, both internal and topical, microelectricity, CS, DMSO, urine, you name it it doesn’t seem to help very much or for very long. Last night I packed it in sugar and there appeared to be some improvement. I can only pack it at night as bandages are too uncomfortable for her to wear at school. She is in marching band and that is hard enough on the feet without an injury because of the type of shoes she has to wear with the uniform. I am going to see how this goes." Nikki I responded with, "That sounds like a fungal infection. I have my doubts if sugar would work on a fungus (since fungi actually thrive on sugar). I would suggest to have it properly diagnosed and if it is a fungus, then you may want to give one of the following a try - camphor, tea tree oil or oil of oregano. All are powerful anti-fungal agents. Good luck!" Barb Garnet also wrote - ">> >A little information misinterpretted is a dangerous thing Barb." The information Nikki provided was that she thought it might be paronychia. If you look closely you'll see I suggested she have it properly diagnosed. I did research paronychia and found this: (In my opinion, a proper diagnosis is in order to determine whether the disorder is caused by bacteria or a fungus, because the same treatment [sugar] cannot be used on both). Barb http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001444.htm Paronychia is a fairly common superficial infection of the skin around the nail. It usually results from injury to the area from biting off or picking a hangnail, or from manipulating, trimming, or pushing back the cuticle. Disorders include: Bacterial paronychia (caused by bacteria) Candidal paronychia (caused by a specific type of yeast) Fungal paronychia (caused by a fungus other than Candida) ************************************************************************ Barb wrote, ">>Nor did I ever suggest that treating a wound with sugar would> encourage fugal growth. " > > Garnet responded with, "> Then I misread your message. Others might have as well. It did bear> clarification." Re: dog with pressure sore>> >> >> >A little information misinterpretted is a dangerous thing Barb. Sugar>> > is a very broad term and means much more than sucrose. The sugar that>> > Candida feeds on in the body is not sucrose / table sugar! It is blood>> > sugar which is d-glucose, only. >> > >> > Starches (chains of sugars) and all simple or compound sugars are>> > convert to d-glucose in the mouth and stomach. There is more specific>> > information in any good physiology or biochemistry text book if you>> > want the exact pathways. Look up the digestive enzymes and where they>> > are secreted. >> > >> > Candida occupies the lower gut, for the most part, where its only>> > access to sugar is what is carried in blood. Although it can also>> > occur in the lungs, sinuses and other body organs. It is not feeding>> > on the sugars in your diet. And it does not grow on table sugar so>> > treating a wound with sugar does NOT encourage fungal growth. What>> > does encourage fungal growth in a wound is leaking plasma, which>> > contains d-glucose. Sugar absorbs and removes the leaky plasma so that>> > fungus does not grow in the wound. >> > >> > Garnet>> >> >>>>> > > > > > List Home Page:> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO> > Books:> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, ND > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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