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Yes I did but what am I going to say? I can't really tell whether

you're serious or not as you periodically write me about your future

plans but I don't really know what to say. I really can't do more than

tell you if I were embarking on a career in biology AND interested in

spirochetes I'd go to Lynn Margulis. I've told you before she's a

genius. She should've gotten a lasker or nobel for figuring out

mitochondria.

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> Hi, did you get my email like 4 days ago? I remember one of your

> addresses was getting spammed over...

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I just wanted to ask if you know anything special about the one

researcher you mentioned before.

I was merely venting frustration, not requesting advice, when I wrote

you about how one generally cannot do work unrelated to ones doctoral

mentors work. Theres no simple answer to that one.

Trust me, I'm not asking you to do my work for me... I'm spending

many hours looking at lab webpages and at peoples grant summaries on

NIH's CRISP database. Youd think that if you had the concepts in

place for a potentially important experiment, you could get it done

as a doctoral student - but in fact most researchers are very

specialized, and very conscious of the bottom line, as there is a

surplus of students and great competition for NIH support. In order

to maintain their funding, most labs have to focus closely on the

particular work NIH has funded them for. And precious few US labs are

funded to investigate the possibilities we have discussed here on

this group.

Highly educated, highly acute people like Ewald and

Wheldon can sound off with all intelligence and scholarship about

these ideas until the cows come home, but their effect on what

experiments get done is limited unless and until research professors

decide to risk their careers on whether they can convince NIH, etc,

that this stuff deserves large investments despite being the opposite

of the theories everyone learned in school.

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But I really don't know all about that--never been a grad student in

the sciences.

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On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 01:34 PM, wrote:

> I was merely venting frustration, not requesting advice, when I wrote

> you about how one generally cannot do work unrelated to ones doctoral

> mentors work.

I didn't realize that. It's certainly not the case in the arts. But in

the arts, you don't generally need a lab!

> Highly educated, highly acute people like Ewald and

> Wheldon can sound off with all intelligence and scholarship about

> these ideas until the cows come home, but their effect on what

> experiments get done is limited unless and until research professors

> decide to risk their careers on whether they can convince NIH, etc,

> that this stuff deserves large investments despite being the opposite

> of the theories everyone learned in school.

It's becoming more obvious to me why the medical scene is a lumbering

beast with enormous inertia.

- Kate

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Sorry to butt in (I don't feel well enough to participate) but I can testify that what happens in medicine also happens in other fields, especially he bit about only being allowed to choose a usually very narrow research topic (collecting data) that would then "feed" the papers, books etc that your professor would sign.

At least this is what happened in the field of linguistics. And you had to toe the "party line" as well, whatever trend was in fashion in your university at the time.

Nelly

Re: [infections] Re: Jill - email

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 01:34 PM, wrote:

I was merely venting frustration, not requesting advice, when I wroteyou about how one generally cannot do work unrelated to ones doctoralmentors work.I didn't realize that. It's certainly not the case in the arts. But in the arts, you don't generally need a lab!

Highly educated, highly acute people like Ewald and Wheldon can sound off with all intelligence and scholarship aboutthese ideas until the cows come home, but their effect on whatexperiments get done is limited unless and until research professorsdecide to risk their careers on whether they can convince NIH, etc,that this stuff deserves large investments despite being the oppositeof the theories everyone learned in school.It's becoming more obvious to me why the medical scene is a lumbering beast with enormous inertia.- Kate

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