DMSO and ears problem. Docs say it can't be fungus

August 30, 2006

Isn't Tinnitus often related to poor blood flow?

Garnet, thank you so much for your help, you are by far the most

knowledgeable person on DMSO that I know, and over here in Argentina

I'm quite in the dark because DMSO is an unknown substance.

I've done new consultations to both my ENT and clinical doctor. They

both think that an infection (bacteria, fungus, yeast, whatever) is

highly unlikely because my blood & urine tests show normal levels

(white blood cells and that), and they argue that even very localized

internal infections should be evident in a blood test. What do you think?

I've been taking about 1 gram of Vit C for a month. Vit C is known to

improve the inmune system. Maybe it has affected my blood tests levels

to show normal levels, even if I have an infection?

They also say that there are no secretions or fluids coming out from

there so it is impossible to make a lab microbe culture. They both

oppose to give me anti-fungal drugs because they are very strong and

they are only given when a demonstrated serious fungus infection is

going on in the patient.

I've been taking LOTS of Pau D'Arco since last Friday (an allegedly

strong yet natural anti-fungal remedy), and I haven't noticed any

changes in my condition yet. Of course I could get much more serious

in my treatment if the conclusion that I can't have an infection

because my blood tests are fine is proved wrong or something.

Maybe I forgot to mention in my original email that I have had a very

mild TMJ (temporomandibular joint) problem for some years. Sometimes

my joint ends up a bit tired when I eat things like steak. Sometimes

it gets tired too when I do some aerobics. That's about it, though. My

ringing of the ears does not seem directly related to it because the

ringing is constant (in TMJ related tinnitus, it usually is highly

correlated with TMJ movements) and because it doesn't change when I

clench my teeth (it usually changes a lot in TMJ related tinnitus).

Could this TMJ issue be related to my current condition (that appeared

after the DMSO application?). Maybe the highly contentrated DMSO (and

all the histamine it released) affected permanently in some way my

already rather problematic muscles in that area? I would think that it

is not the case, because I hear the " crick " noise every time I swallow

some centimeters deep inside, and my TMJ does not move when I swallow.

Aside from an infection (that allegadly my blood tests are ruling

out), what are your other hypothesis?

Could it be that some kind of fluid is trapped in the zone and it's

failing to drain?

Could the application have done any kind of permanent damage (what

kind?) in the tissues?

Would any information that could I give you to you would help you to

make a better guess? If so, please, ask me anything you want.

Any recommendations regarding what do you think I should do will be

enormously welcomed.

INFINITE THANKS!!!

August 31, 2006

Paltal wrote:

>

> I've done new consultations to both my ENT and clinical doctor. They

> both think that an infection (bacteria, fungus, yeast, whatever) is

> highly unlikely because my blood & urine tests show normal levels

> (white blood cells and that), and they argue that even very localized

> internal infections should be evident in a blood test. What do you think?

I am unaware of blood tests that would show fungal infections. White

cell counts might not be elevated in some instances.

>

> I've been taking about 1 gram of Vit C for a month. Vit C is known to

> improve the inmune system. Maybe it has affected my blood tests levels

> to show normal levels, even if I have an infection?

Vit C would not prevent the WBC count from going up, but a more subtel

infection might not raise the WBC above normal ranges.

>

> They also say that there are no secretions or fluids coming out from

> there so it is impossible to make a lab microbe culture. They both

> oppose to give me anti-fungal drugs because they are very strong and

> they are only given when a demonstrated serious fungus infection is

> going on in the patient.

I understand not putting you on antifungal drugs. They are very strong

and hard on the liver. But they could at least do a skin scraping and

try to culture it. However it is difficult to culture fungus and unless

they know to use a collagen added media they will not be able to grow it

out. Additionally it is difficult to identify the various fungal

species. Many labs just don't have the knowledge. Could be the docs know

this and are hesitant to run tests that they know are not reliable.

>

> I've been taking LOTS of Pau D'Arco since last Friday (an allegedly

> strong yet natural anti-fungal remedy), and I haven't noticed any

> changes in my condition yet. Of course I could get much more serious

> in my treatment if the conclusion that I can't have an infection

> because my blood tests are fine is proved wrong or something.

Drinking Pau D'Arco might not deliver enough to the antifungal substance

to the infection site, if you have an infection.

>

> Maybe I forgot to mention in my original email that I have had a very

> mild TMJ (temporomandibular joint) problem for some years. Sometimes

> my joint ends up a bit tired when I eat things like steak. Sometimes

> it gets tired too when I do some aerobics. That's about it, though. My

> ringing of the ears does not seem directly related to it because the

> ringing is constant (in TMJ related tinnitus, it usually is highly

> correlated with TMJ movements) and because it doesn't change when I

> clench my teeth (it usually changes a lot in TMJ related tinnitus).

I wonder if all of your symptoms could be somehow related to TMJ. I am

not very familiar with all of the complications of TMJ so I really don't

know.

>

> Could this TMJ issue be related to my current condition (that appeared

> after the DMSO application?). Maybe the highly contentrated DMSO (and

> all the histamine it released) affected permanently in some way my

> already rather problematic muscles in that area? I would think that it

> is not the case, because I hear the " crick " noise every time I swallow

> some centimeters deep inside, and my TMJ does not move when I swallow.

I would not think DMSO or histamine would cause any permanent changes.

DMSO has never been demonstrated to cause any toxic effects, any

permanent changes and is in fact used to transport stem cells and organs

because it preserves and normalizes tissues and keeps them alive.

>

> Aside from an infection (that allegadly my blood tests are ruling

> out), what are your other hypothesis?

I don't really know enough to speculate.

>

> Could it be that some kind of fluid is trapped in the zone and it's

> failing to drain?

I have had that happen to me personally, due to allergies and stress

combined. It was difficult to hear, I had popping and some occasional

pain. Sounded like I had water deep in my ears. I was given drugs to dry

out the tissues, that dry out your whole body. I did not care for them

and stopped using them, eventually the condition resolved on its own. I

still have allergies though, but they don't seem to bother my ears. I

think it was the combination of stress, perhaps also with chemical

exposures in the labs I was working in. Many people are allergic to air

borne chemical vapors. Our ears are open and exposed to what ever is in

the air.

>

> Could the application have done any kind of permanent damage (what

> kind?) in the tissues?

Not to my knowledge or experience.

Garnet

August 31, 2006

Paltal, try contact this guy: usallergy@...

He's quite good at treating weird problems, including allergies

Dirk