Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe

[Guest guest]

Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were

tapering off.

Magic brownies

In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave

nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section -- loose

leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or

Bob's.

I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them. Warmed up

they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days, he

would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening after

dinner. One batch lasts a long time!

This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had

recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I

realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it reminded me

of another herb used in brownies many years ago...

Hi everyone,

>

> I so appreciated everyone's help last week, especially 's

extensive advice.

>

> Things were going really well for a while. (Literally!)

>

> I took Genna off the Miralax cold turkey – last Wednesday was her

last dose. I put her on two teaspoons of Fruit-Eze, ¼ tsp Baby Calm,

Tsp Nordic Cod liver oil, Probiotics with bifidus in the afternoon,

and ½ a chewable fiber tablet in the evening.

>

> She had absolutely no problems going a small amount twice a day

for 5 days in a row. She has been used to going at reading time

before naps and bed, and just continued like the Miralax wasn't

needed. Is it possible that it stayed in her system for 4-5 days?

>

> Three days ago her stools were firmer, and she had a little

trouble going, but I thought perhaps this was because she wasn't used

to passing normal stools.

>

> Two day ago she was just unable to go – her stool was large,

hard, and try as she might she couldn't pass it. She didn't go that

day, but woke up that night around 9 pm screaming. We went to the

store and got Babylax (THANK YOU to the board for letting me know

about this, prior I had only used solid glycerin suppositories) and

it worked within a half hour. She didn't seem to tear, but was

emotionally a mess.

>

> Yesterday I decided to take her to the holistic MD that helped my

8 year old last fall (see previous post). He wants me to do a food

elimination diet, and to take Ultra Care Kids ( I think this is like

a cleanse) to " heal her gut " he said. He also gave me a homeopathic

remedy for her. HOWEVER, while I gather all this info about the diet

and learn how to do it, he put her back on the Miralax. When I told

him that it wasn't meant for children, and not for long, he said he

understood but that this was better then having her tear in the short

term. So I started her again on it this morning. She doesn't need

much, I only give her 1/3 to ½ the cup dosage every day and she goes

just fine.

>

> The interesting this is that she doesn't go very MUCH when on the

Miralax. When she is constipated she has HUGE stools, and I don't

get it. She had gone twice on the previous day, and yet had an adult

size stool after the Babylax.

>

> I have emailed Jeannie separately to ask for the FDA sheets so I

can bring them in to him when I go again. He stated point blank that

he knows " nothing about it, " and he has never prescribed it before.

>

> He did say that since she was going regularly on Miralax that she

doesn't have any mechanical issues like Hirschsprung's.

>

> Any thoughts??

>

> Thank you again for all your words of wisdom.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! So I add the mixture to a batch of brownies? What do I leave out

instead, anything?

From: miralax [mailto:miralax ] On Behalf Of

mommtlc

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:09 AM

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe

Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were

tapering off.

Magic brownies

In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave

nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section -- loose

leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or

Bob's.

I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them. Warmed up

they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days, he

would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening after

dinner. One batch lasts a long time!

This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had

recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I

realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it reminded me

of another herb used in brownies many years ago...

Hi everyone,

>

> I so appreciated everyone's help last week, especially 's

extensive advice.

>

> Things were going really well for a while. (Literally!)

>

> I took Genna off the Miralax cold turkey - last Wednesday was her

last dose. I put her on two teaspoons of Fruit-Eze, ¼ tsp Baby Calm,

Tsp Nordic Cod liver oil, Probiotics with bifidus in the afternoon,

and ½ a chewable fiber tablet in the evening.

>

> She had absolutely no problems going a small amount twice a day

for 5 days in a row. She has been used to going at reading time

before naps and bed, and just continued like the Miralax wasn't

needed. Is it possible that it stayed in her system for 4-5 days?

>

> Three days ago her stools were firmer, and she had a little

trouble going, but I thought perhaps this was because she wasn't used

to passing normal stools.

>

> Two day ago she was just unable to go - her stool was large,

hard, and try as she might she couldn't pass it. She didn't go that

day, but woke up that night around 9 pm screaming. We went to the

store and got Babylax (THANK YOU to the board for letting me know

about this, prior I had only used solid glycerin suppositories) and

it worked within a half hour. She didn't seem to tear, but was

emotionally a mess.

>

> Yesterday I decided to take her to the holistic MD that helped my

8 year old last fall (see previous post). He wants me to do a food

elimination diet, and to take Ultra Care Kids ( I think this is like

a cleanse) to " heal her gut " he said. He also gave me a homeopathic

remedy for her. HOWEVER, while I gather all this info about the diet

and learn how to do it, he put her back on the Miralax. When I told

him that it wasn't meant for children, and not for long, he said he

understood but that this was better then having her tear in the short

term. So I started her again on it this morning. She doesn't need

much, I only give her 1/3 to ½ the cup dosage every day and she goes

just fine.

>

> The interesting this is that she doesn't go very MUCH when on the

Miralax. When she is constipated she has HUGE stools, and I don't

get it. She had gone twice on the previous day, and yet had an adult

size stool after the Babylax.

>

> I have emailed Jeannie separately to ask for the FDA sheets so I

can bring them in to him when I go again. He stated point blank that

he knows " nothing about it, " and he has never prescribed it before.

>

> He did say that since she was going regularly on Miralax that she

doesn't have any mechanical issues like Hirschsprung's.

>

> Any thoughts??

>

> Thank you again for all your words of wisdom.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep - I think you could reduce by a teaspoon or two, but that's it.

The batter will be very thick due to the prunes. They will be very

gooey and fudgy. Better if warm - place in micro for 10 sec +/-

Hi everyone,

> >

> > I so appreciated everyone's help last week, especially 's

> extensive advice.

> >

> > Things were going really well for a while. (Literally!)

> >

> > I took Genna off the Miralax cold turkey - last Wednesday was her

> last dose. I put her on two teaspoons of Fruit-Eze, ¼ tsp Baby

Calm,

> Tsp Nordic Cod liver oil, Probiotics with bifidus in the afternoon,

> and ½ a chewable fiber tablet in the evening.

> >

> > She had absolutely no problems going a small amount twice a day

> for 5 days in a row. She has been used to going at reading time

> before naps and bed, and just continued like the Miralax wasn't

> needed. Is it possible that it stayed in her system for 4-5 days?

> >

> > Three days ago her stools were firmer, and she had a little

> trouble going, but I thought perhaps this was because she wasn't

used

> to passing normal stools.

> >

> > Two day ago she was just unable to go - her stool was large,

> hard, and try as she might she couldn't pass it. She didn't go that

> day, but woke up that night around 9 pm screaming. We went to the

> store and got Babylax (THANK YOU to the board for letting me know

> about this, prior I had only used solid glycerin suppositories) and

> it worked within a half hour. She didn't seem to tear, but was

> emotionally a mess.

> >

> > Yesterday I decided to take her to the holistic MD that helped my

> 8 year old last fall (see previous post). He wants me to do a food

> elimination diet, and to take Ultra Care Kids ( I think this is

like

> a cleanse) to " heal her gut " he said. He also gave me a homeopathic

> remedy for her. HOWEVER, while I gather all this info about the

diet

> and learn how to do it, he put her back on the Miralax. When I told

> him that it wasn't meant for children, and not for long, he said he

> understood but that this was better then having her tear in the

short

> term. So I started her again on it this morning. She doesn't need

> much, I only give her 1/3 to ½ the cup dosage every day and she

goes

> just fine.

> >

> > The interesting this is that she doesn't go very MUCH when on the

> Miralax. When she is constipated she has HUGE stools, and I don't

> get it. She had gone twice on the previous day, and yet had an

adult

> size stool after the Babylax.

> >

> > I have emailed Jeannie separately to ask for the FDA sheets so I

> can bring them in to him when I go again. He stated point blank

that

> he knows " nothing about it, " and he has never prescribed it before.

> >

> > He did say that since she was going regularly on Miralax that she

> doesn't have any mechanical issues like Hirschsprung's.

> >

> > Any thoughts??

> >

> > Thank you again for all your words of wisdom.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I meant reduce water or oil by a teaspoon or two.

Hi everyone,

> > >

> > > I so appreciated everyone's help last week, especially 's

> > extensive advice.

> > >

> > > Things were going really well for a while. (Literally!)

> > >

> > > I took Genna off the Miralax cold turkey - last Wednesday was

her

> > last dose. I put her on two teaspoons of Fruit-Eze, ¼ tsp Baby

> Calm,

> > Tsp Nordic Cod liver oil, Probiotics with bifidus in the

afternoon,

> > and ½ a chewable fiber tablet in the evening.

> > >

> > > She had absolutely no problems going a small amount twice a day

> > for 5 days in a row. She has been used to going at reading time

> > before naps and bed, and just continued like the Miralax wasn't

> > needed. Is it possible that it stayed in her system for 4-5 days?

> > >

> > > Three days ago her stools were firmer, and she had a little

> > trouble going, but I thought perhaps this was because she wasn't

> used

> > to passing normal stools.

> > >

> > > Two day ago she was just unable to go - her stool was large,

> > hard, and try as she might she couldn't pass it. She didn't go

that

> > day, but woke up that night around 9 pm screaming. We went to the

> > store and got Babylax (THANK YOU to the board for letting me know

> > about this, prior I had only used solid glycerin suppositories)

and

> > it worked within a half hour. She didn't seem to tear, but was

> > emotionally a mess.

> > >

> > > Yesterday I decided to take her to the holistic MD that helped

my

> > 8 year old last fall (see previous post). He wants me to do a

food

> > elimination diet, and to take Ultra Care Kids ( I think this is

> like

> > a cleanse) to " heal her gut " he said. He also gave me a

homeopathic

> > remedy for her. HOWEVER, while I gather all this info about the

> diet

> > and learn how to do it, he put her back on the Miralax. When I

told

> > him that it wasn't meant for children, and not for long, he said

he

> > understood but that this was better then having her tear in the

> short

> > term. So I started her again on it this morning. She doesn't need

> > much, I only give her 1/3 to ½ the cup dosage every day and she

> goes

> > just fine.

> > >

> > > The interesting this is that she doesn't go very MUCH when on

the

> > Miralax. When she is constipated she has HUGE stools, and I don't

> > get it. She had gone twice on the previous day, and yet had an

> adult

> > size stool after the Babylax.

> > >

> > > I have emailed Jeannie separately to ask for the FDA sheets so

I

> > can bring them in to him when I go again. He stated point blank

> that

> > he knows " nothing about it, " and he has never prescribed it

before.

> > >

> > > He did say that since she was going regularly on Miralax that

she

> > doesn't have any mechanical issues like Hirschsprung's.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts??

> > >

> > > Thank you again for all your words of wisdom.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I found Senna at 's health food store in the bulk bins. with the

spices. $18/pound but 1/3 cup was about 50 cents. It was just leaves, and

stems. 's is a small local chain, they have a wide variety of

supplements.

I'm sure it would be much more expensive, but there is teabags, Smooth Move.

na

CHRISTOPHER LOY writes:

> Where can I find senna leaves? Thanks! I'm going to try out this recipe.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe

>

>

> I modified MommyTLC's special brownies this week:

>

> store bought brownie mix, oil, water, eggs

> 1/3C plum-berry plus juice (Sunsweet brand)

> 1.5 ounce box of raisins (they were on the shelf)

> 1/8t green stevia

> 1/3C senna leaves ($0.44 from the bulk bins)

>

> bake low and slow, 13x9 pan, 300 degrees for almost an hour

>

> I made the puree first, and there is no way I would eat that!

>

> tested them on the picky teenagers and they had no clue they were 'special'.

> tried one myself and they are a bit stickier than normal. might bake them a

> bit longer next time or sprinkle them with a touch of flax seed

> meal+powdered sugar. cut into 1 " squares and freeze in a zippy.

>

> oh, and yes they work. gentle overnight relief...

>

> love and light,

> na

>

> mommtlc writes:

>

> > Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were

> > tapering off.

> > Magic brownies

> > In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave

> > nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section -- loose

> > leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or

> > Bob's.

> >

> > I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them. Warmed up

> > they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days, he

> > would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening after

> > dinner. One batch lasts a long time!

> >

> > This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had

> > recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I

> > realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it reminded me

> > of another herb used in brownies many years ago...

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where can I find senna leaves? Thanks! I'm going to try out this recipe.

Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe

I modified MommyTLC's special brownies this week: store bought brownie mix, oil, water, eggs1/3C plum-berry plus juice (Sunsweet brand)1.5 ounce box of raisins (they were on the shelf)1/8t green stevia1/3C senna leaves ($0.44 from the bulk bins) bake low and slow, 13x9 pan, 300 degrees for almost an hour I made the puree first, and there is no way I would eat that! tested them on the picky teenagers and they had no clue they were 'special'. tried one myself and they are a bit stickier than normal. might bake them a bit longer next time or sprinkle them with a touch of flax seed meal+powdered sugar. cut into 1" squares and freeze in a zippy. oh, and yes they work. gentle overnight relief... love and light,na mommtlc writes: > Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were > tapering off. > Magic brownies > In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave > nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section -- loose > leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or > Bob's. > > I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them. Warmed up > they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days, he > would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening after > dinner. One batch lasts a long time! > > This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had > recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I > realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it reminded me > of another herb used in brownies many years ago... >

[Guest guest]

I wonder if Slippery Elm would work in place of the Senna, but use less of it???? na@... wrote: I found Senna at 's health food store in the bulk bins. with the spices. $18/pound but 1/3 cup was about 50 cents. It was just leaves, and stems. 's is a small local chain, they have a wide variety of supplements. I'm sure it would be much more expensive, but there is teabags, Smooth Move.na CHRISTOPHER

LOY writes: > Where can I find senna leaves? Thanks! I'm going to try out this recipe.> > > > > Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe > > > I modified MommyTLC's special brownies this week: > > store bought brownie mix, oil, water, eggs> 1/3C plum-berry plus juice (Sunsweet brand)> 1.5 ounce box of raisins (they were on the shelf)> 1/8t green stevia> 1/3C senna leaves ($0.44 from the bulk bins) > > bake low and slow, 13x9 pan, 300 degrees for almost an hour > > I made the puree first, and there is no way I would eat that!

> > tested them on the picky teenagers and they had no clue they were 'special'. > tried one myself and they are a bit stickier than normal. might bake them a > bit longer next time or sprinkle them with a touch of flax seed > meal+powdered sugar. cut into 1" squares and freeze in a zippy. > > oh, and yes they work. gentle overnight relief... > > love and light,> na > > mommtlc writes: > > > Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were > > tapering off. > > Magic brownies > > In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave > > nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section -- loose > > leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or > > Bob's. > > > > I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them. Warmed up >

> they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days, he > > would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening after > > dinner. One batch lasts a long time! > > > > This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had > > recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I > > realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it reminded me > > of another herb used in brownies many years ago... > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Interesting idea -- I've never heard of baking with slippery elm

powder -- just in teas and smoothies.

I'm glad the idea worked for you na -- you cook like I do -- a

little of this, I've got some of that left, etc.

Everyone -- please remember that the body can get used to senna so

you don't want to use it for a long time -- but during that (very

difficult) initial period of time when trying to get off of miralax --

it helped.

> I found Senna at 's health food store in the bulk

bins. with the

> spices. $18/pound but 1/3 cup was about 50 cents. It was just

leaves, and

> stems. 's is a small local chain, they have a wide variety

of

> supplements.

>

> I'm sure it would be much more expensive, but there is teabags,

Smooth Move.

> na

>

> CHRISTOPHER LOY writes:

>

> > Where can I find senna leaves? Thanks! I'm going to try out this

recipe.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Need help - again! - Brownie recipe

> >

> >

> > I modified MommyTLC's special brownies this week:

> >

> > store bought brownie mix, oil, water, eggs

> > 1/3C plum-berry plus juice (Sunsweet brand)

> > 1.5 ounce box of raisins (they were on the shelf)

> > 1/8t green stevia

> > 1/3C senna leaves ($0.44 from the bulk bins)

> >

> > bake low and slow, 13x9 pan, 300 degrees for almost an hour

> >

> > I made the puree first, and there is no way I would eat that!

> >

> > tested them on the picky teenagers and they had no clue they

were 'special'.

> > tried one myself and they are a bit stickier than normal. might

bake them a

> > bit longer next time or sprinkle them with a touch of flax seed

> > meal+powdered sugar. cut into 1 " squares and freeze in a zippy.

> >

> > oh, and yes they work. gentle overnight relief...

> >

> > love and light,

> > na

> >

> > mommtlc writes:

> >

> > > Here's what I used with great success last summer when we were

> > > tapering off.

> > > Magic brownies

> > > In blender or food processor puree 1/3 cup each honey or agave

> > > nectar, prunes and senna leaves (buy at HFS in tea section --

loose

> > > leaf) to a batch of brownies. If you are GFCF, use Pamela's or

> > > Bob's.

> > >

> > > I made up a batch and cut info 2in squares and froze them.

Warmed up

> > > they are quite good. If my son had gone more than 1 1/2 days,

he

> > > would get one at lunch and we usually had success that evening

after

> > > dinner. One batch lasts a long time!

> > >

> > > This was modified from a recipe form my pediatrician who had

> > > recommended the puree as a spread on toast. After I made it, I

> > > realized there was no way my son would touch it, but it

reminded me

> > > of another herb used in brownies many years ago...

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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