Re: Speaking of perseverations

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Newstead dreamed lazily into the stars:

>Both, perhaps? A perseveration *and* something you enjoy?

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>That's perhaps why words like " perseveration " bother me, because it

>makes what we enjoy sound like addictions which rule our lives, not

>something from which we derive intense pleasure.

IIRC, the definition of perseveration as opposed to compulsion/addiction is

that it is something we feel passionately interested in, NOT something that

is outside our control. It's not our fault if NTs can't tell the

difference, any more than it is when they can't distinguish between

stimming and being fidgety. :^)

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> Iris,

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> Both, perhaps? A perseveration *and* something you enjoy?

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> That's perhaps why words like " perseveration " bother me, because it

> makes what we enjoy sound like addictions which rule our lives, not

> something from which we derive intense pleasure.

I do get a lot of joy from my purple things. Finding new purple objects

makes me happy. However, some people look at me sideways and wonder if

it's a sign of mental illness, or say, " Don't you ever wear any OTHER

colour? " (No, why should I?) or say as a joke, " Irises (the flower) do

come in colours other than purple. " (Sure they do, but I happen to like

purple ones.)

Iris

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Iris M. Gray dreamed lazily into the stars:

>Some people wonder if I have any plans to dye my cats purple (I don't.)

Ah, but you *can* get cool little purple nail covers for them assuming

they're not declawed:

http://www.softpaws.com

*grin* I haven't tried them, but my other cat-fancying friends say they're

wonderful. :^)

> " Well, is purple a perseveration or is it a choice? " I have no idea how to

>answer that.

I think in most cases it is a choice, but you seem to take it to the level

of perseveration. I am like that about a few " choices " in my life -- I

" choose " to have magical/middle-ages fantasy be a running theme in

everything I do, from naming cats after literary characters, doing my

bachelor's thesis on using fantasy books as psychological support for the

disabled/abused, having most of my shirts be tunic-length & decorated with

fantasy elements, to taking a series of classes that I feel mimic's a

knight's basic training...

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Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness.

-- Terry Pratchett: 'Men At Arms'

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> I think in most cases it is a choice, but you seem to take it to the level

> of perseveration. I am like that about a few " choices " in my life -- I

> " choose " to have magical/middle-ages fantasy be a running theme in

> everything I do, from naming cats after literary characters, doing my

> bachelor's thesis on using fantasy books as psychological support for the

> disabled/abused, having most of my shirts be tunic-length & decorated with

> fantasy elements, to taking a series of classes that I feel mimic's a

> knight's basic training...

And it doesn't hurt anything, does it? Nor does my obsession with purple.

I can, if I choose, wear another colour. Most of the time I choose not to,

but if it happened that, say, I couldn't wear purple I would be

disappointed but I'd still be functional. I have purple dishes but most of

my dishes are not purple. They're plain old white. When my purple keyboard

got wet and I couldn't use it until it dried out, I replaced it with a

non-purple keyboard. Once I was reassured my family that I do not have

OCD, they pretty much left me alone.

> Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness.

> -- Terry Pratchett: 'Men At Arms'

I like this .sig. I'm a big Pratchett fan myself.

Iris

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> mustang@... ~~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

> Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness.

> -- Terry Pratchett: 'Men At Arms'

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Iris M. Gray dreamed lazily into the stars:

>And it doesn't hurt anything, does it?

Well...that time I was out in the backyard and convinced my kid brother to

practice swordfighting with me using a few pieces of rebar, THAT

hurt. That is, it hurt him. I came through just fine. *snicker*

> Nor does my obsession with purple.

>I can, if I choose, wear another colour. Most of the time I choose not to,

>but if it happened that, say, I couldn't wear purple I would be

>disappointed but I'd still be functional.

Yep. Not *every* item in my life is fantasy-oriented, just most of

them. I can wear other clothing and focus on other interests, too... I

just prefer to have the theme present whenever possible, it makes me happier.

> Once I was reassured my family that I do not have

>OCD, they pretty much left me alone.

It's funny, my interest in fantasy is one of the few things that my family

actually encouraged instead of discouraged. It could be that they got used

to it so early that they just considered it to be part of my basic

personality -- or it could be that my specific interest in knighthood led

me to such positive behavior that they feared what I might do if I *wasn't*

trying to rescue people all the time.

>I like this .sig. I'm a big Pratchett fan myself.

Thank you. He's easily one of my favorite authors, as he seems to see

the world much the same way I do. I particularly like Death, who has been

described by Pratchett as having an autistic mind (see my new sig), though

I suspect that Pratchett himself is on the Spectrum... Have you tried the

Pratchett-Gaiman collaborative novels, are they as good as the Discworld

series?

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-- Pratchett as Death, 'Lords & Ladies'

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> I suspect that Pratchett himself is on the Spectrum... Have you tried the

> Pratchett-Gaiman collaborative novels, are they as good as the Discworld

> series?

There is only one Pratchett-Gaiman collaboration, as far as I know. When I

heard Pratchett speak a couple of months ago someone asked him if he would

do another, and he said " Never again! " I haven't read it. I don't know

what it's like. I'm currently reading " The Amazing Maurice and His

Legendary Rodents. "

I think that just about everyone on the Discworld has some autistic

traits. One thing I love about Pratchett is that he and I have the same

love of libraries. I spent my entire childhood in the library across the

street from my home and he did almost the exact same thing (except I don't

think the library was across the street.) He asked the audience " Who here

has enough bookshelf space? If you do, I don't want to know you. "

Iris

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Iris M. Gray dreamed lazily into the stars:

>There is only one Pratchett-Gaiman collaboration, as far as I know. When I

>heard Pratchett speak a couple of months ago someone asked him if he would

>do another, and he said " Never again! " I haven't read it. I don't know

>what it's like.

How odd, you're right. I thought there was more than one book, but

evidently " Good Omens " is the only one. I wonder if it's because Pratchett

doesn't work well with others, or if Gaiman isn't a great partner...did he

give any hint as to which it was?

> I'm currently reading " The Amazing Maurice and His

>Legendary Rodents. "

Ooh... My father lent me his copy of that to read while I was in the

hospital a few months ago! I won't say what I really liked because you

won't have gotten that far...just know that the final chapters are among

the most memorable of any he has written. :^D

>I think that just about everyone on the Discworld has some autistic

>traits.

They do... He only references Death, but I have noticed it in every facet

of Discworld. The first of his books I ever read was " Small Gods " which

has the personally familiar comment " I'm on everyone's side. It'd be nice

if, just for once, someone was on mine " in it. If Pratchett himself isn't

on the Spectrum, I'd love to know how he managed to be so ridiculously

logical... " The question seldom addressed is *where* Medusa had snakes. "

> One thing I love about Pratchett is that he and I have the same

>love of libraries. I spent my entire childhood in the library across the

>street from my home and he did almost the exact same thing (except I don't

>think the library was across the street.) He asked the audience " Who here

>has enough bookshelf space? If you do, I don't want to know you. "

A new quote for my growing file! That's how I was (and still am)... I have

always spent 99% of my waking hours reading in one form or another, and

still spend at least one day each week volunteering to improve the local

library. As I was commenting to someone this afternoon, " I think I have it

in my stack of things to read -- or I did at one point before the stack

took over half my bedroom. "

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" I like the idea of democracy. You have to have someone

everyone distrusts... That way, everyone's happy. "

-- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)

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> How odd, you're right. I thought there was more than one book, but

> evidently " Good Omens " is the only one. I wonder if it's because Pratchett

> doesn't work well with others, or if Gaiman isn't a great partner...did he

> give any hint as to which it was?

The former. PTerry doesn't work or play well with others.

> > I'm currently reading " The Amazing Maurice and His

> >Legendary Rodents. "

>

> Ooh... My father lent me his copy of that to read while I was in the

> hospital a few months ago! I won't say what I really liked because you

> won't have gotten that far...just know that the final chapters are among

> the most memorable of any he has written. :^D

I'm just about getting there. I think I can see what you mean.

> >I think that just about everyone on the Discworld has some autistic

> >traits.

>The first of his books I ever read was " Small Gods " which

>has the personally familiar comment " I'm on everyone's side. It'd be nice

>if, just for once, someone was on mine " in it.

I have that, but have not actually read it yet.

If Pratchett himself isn't

> on the Spectrum, I'd love to know how he managed to be so ridiculously

> logical... " The question seldom addressed is *where* Medusa had snakes. "

I used to have as my .sig the quote " When people were in trouble, they

went to a witch. Sometimes, of course, to ask " Please stop doing it. "

> A new quote for my growing file!

Do you have the Pratchett Quote File?

Iris

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ViridianThumm@... dreamed lazily into the stars:

>I think you should change your last name to ...... Periwinkle!

Hey, periwinkle is my favorite color, and it's not the same thing as

purple! It's the borderline between sky blue and lavender, at least from

what I know. *grin*

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Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:27 PM

> Some people wonder if I have any plans to dye my cats purple (I don't.)

My freshman year in college I dyed my hamster, Fish, green. I've also had

cats that have needed to be bathed before. With those combined experiences,

I'd say that it's probably best that you aren't planning to dye your cats

purple ).

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ViridianThumm@... dreamed lazily into the stars:

>I think you should change your last name to ...... Periwinkle!

Hey, periwinkle is my favorite color, and it's not the same thing as

purple!  It's the borderline between sky blue and lavender, at least from

what I know.  *grin*

Hi ,

Ah, I love periwinkle also....altho my house and clothing are not

as drenched in it as Iris's are....( to Iris )..... I also love the color

salmon, b/c it is not quite orange and not quite pink, and not even peach.

something in between.

I painted my bedroom this deep rich color that was titled " Blurple " ,

b/c in different lights it is blue, then purple....thus a deeper periwinkle I

suppose. With a butter yellow trim, and its quite a soothing place.

So speaking of 'perservations', colours are definietly one of mine, and

I could go on and on....!

Nanne

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>  Some people wonder if I have any plans to dye my cats purple (I don't.)

My freshman year in college I dyed my hamster, Fish, green.  I've also had

cats that have needed to be bathed before.  With those combined experiences,

I'd say that it's probably best that you aren't planning to dye your cats

purple ).

--------Can't resist adding to the Dyed Pets thread here....

Years ago my old dog, Cabrilla (irish wolfhound/setter mix) was left

alone for the day when my boyfriend and I went to Chicago. Upon getting home,

she was thumping her tail on the floor guiltily as dogs tend to do when they've

done something bad. I turned on the light and she was....this odd greenish

color (normal color an orangish tan), except for her chest, which normally white

was now bright blue. Then, looking around we realized there was bright blue

spots all over the carpet., the couch, the bed.....

She had jumped up to my table where I kept my tubes of oil paint, chewed

one open, and rolled in it all over! Fortunately she had chosen Cerulean Blue

and not one of the Cadmiums, otherwise it would have killed her.

Being oil paint, it didn't come out for the longest time...so you can

imagine the comments I got about how cruel I was to have died my dog blue and

green!

Not only that, but for several days there were bright blue turds in the

yard!

Nanne

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Nanne,

I only wish I had such a " perseveration. " I was never any good at

landscapes--I focused on faces. Normally I would shun eye contact, or

try to overcompensate and stare *too* long, but in doing portraits I

have an excuse to look at people for as long as necessary. (Not to

mention looking away when necessary). It also puts a certain " distance "

between me and my subject, so that looking the person in the eye is not

nearly as intimidating.

Hi ....

I kind of gave up art making years ago, as a) had a baby, moved around a

lot and became poor, and the business-social end of it had previously been so

baffling/draining that I figured what was the use. Only since after having

discovering the AS, my son getting a bit older and finally being in a stable

environment am I even letting myself consider doing it all again...but i want

to.

I was good at faces also. Ironically, especially eyes, and I always have

loved drawing/painting eyes, and agree with what you said about the 'distance'

there is when drawing them takes away otherwise uncomfortability we have.

In drawing them, we only have to decipher form, light, shape, colour,

line....and not any kind of social meaning.

Nanne