Just another thing to look at.

[Guest guest]

I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each substance

was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs used

were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout medicine),sporinox

the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no

antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The exciting

drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything in a

wide radius.

There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap which

still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the middle of

the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.

tony

[Guest guest]

Tony, gout medicine killed the staph? or the proteus? aspirin too? i

think i read somewhere that aspirin enhances antifungal agents. but in

vitro is not in vivo...how do you think aspirin and colchicine are

working? now i've got to google that.

if thats true about the allicin then we have major lies going on in

major journals since they've published studies on it killing msra.

>

> I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each

substance

> was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs used

> were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout medicine),sporinox

> the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no

> antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The exciting

> drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything in a

> wide radius.

> There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap which

> still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the middle of

> the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.

> tony

>

[Guest guest]

On Monday, November 7, 2005, at 10:28 AM, dumbaussie2000 wrote:

> The exciting

> drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything in a

> wide radius.

So maybe it's no surprise that Dr. St. Amand found that gout medicines

helped people with FMS. (It seems like eons ago that I actually

believed that I had FMS, not knowing it was Lyme+.)

- Kate

[Guest guest]

Tony,

What kind of allicin did you use? Allicin is very fragile and most of its effects disappear very quickly when dealt with in any way at all. That's why garlic needs to be eaten raw, immediately after crushing it, not exposed to air for more than a few minutes. And even by taking all these precautions I think only a fraction of the allicin will reach your stomach (and your blood, maybe?) in a form that can be antibiotic, fongicidal etc.

I suspect that most commercial preparations that are meant to contain allicin are useless as far as antimicrobial properties are concerned

Nelly

[infections] Just another thing to look at.

I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each substance was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs used were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout medicine),sporinox the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The exciting drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything in a wide radius.There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap which still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the middle of the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.tony

[Guest guest]

Nellie

Someone sent it to me and it wasn't anywhere near as fresh as you

like. The only problme is that pharmaceuticals have a huge job

trying to cut down bacteria that wishfully wanting garlic like

supplements to succeed- is a little outside the box.Colloidal silver

in the right particle numbers definately works, iodine never fails,

but GARLIC is a HUGE IFFY.

>

> Tony,

>

> What kind of allicin did you use? Allicin is very fragile and most

of its effects disappear very quickly when dealt with in any way at

all. That's why garlic needs to be eaten raw, immediately after

crushing it, not exposed to air for more than a few minutes. And

even by taking all these precautions I think only a fraction of the

allicin will reach your stomach (and your blood, maybe?) in a form

that can be antibiotic, fongicidal etc.

>

> I suspect that most commercial preparations that are meant to

contain allicin are useless as far as antimicrobial properties are

concerned

>

> Nelly

> [infections] Just another thing to look

at.

>

>

> I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each

substance

> was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs

used

> were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout

medicine),sporinox

> the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no

> antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The

exciting

> drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything

in a

> wide radius.

> There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap

which

> still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the

middle of

> the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.

> tony

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Try pressing raw FRESH garlic juice onto your plates (get a clove of garlic and a garlic crusher-crush the clove until a drop of liquid is obtained), and tell me what happens. I am dead serious, any other kind of garlic, no aged, powdered, freeze-dried garlic for eg. Let's see whether fresh garlic juice has any effect on the various bacterial growths you have.

Nelly

[infections] Just another thing to look at.> > > I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each substance > was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs used > were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout medicine),sporinox > the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no > antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The exciting > drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything in a > wide radius.> There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap which > still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the middle of > the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.> tony> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Which organism would you like to see this against-pseudonomads is

the harder of the two to kill.

tony

> >

> > Tony,

> >

> > What kind of allicin did you use? Allicin is very fragile and

most

> of its effects disappear very quickly when dealt with in any way

at

> all. That's why garlic needs to be eaten raw, immediately after

> crushing it, not exposed to air for more than a few minutes. And

> even by taking all these precautions I think only a fraction of

the

> allicin will reach your stomach (and your blood, maybe?) in a

form

> that can be antibiotic, fongicidal etc.

> >

> > I suspect that most commercial preparations that are meant to

> contain allicin are useless as far as antimicrobial properties

are

> concerned

> >

> > Nelly

> > [infections] Just another thing to

look

> at.

> >

> >

> > I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each

> substance

> > was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The

drugs

> used

> > were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout

> medicine),sporinox

> > the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no

> > antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The

> exciting

> > drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped

everything

> in a

> > wide radius.

> > There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap

> which

> > still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the

> middle of

> > the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.

> > tony

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Whichever, both? Depends what growth you are willing to sacrifice

Nelly

[infections] Just another thing to look > at.> > > > > > I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each > substance > > was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs > used > > were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout > medicine),sporinox > > the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no > > antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The > exciting > > drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped everything > in a > > wide radius.> > There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap > which > > still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the > middle of > > the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.> > tony> > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I sent Tony the allicin and I'd really like to know if the entire

company is a scam therefore. Altho admittedly its supposed to be kept

refrigerated so from NY to Melbourne it took at least a week to get

there. But this company has published studies claiming terrific

results with MRSA< and besides, it really tastes very garlicy. It is

extremely potent if you tak ea little and you'll get gastritis if you

take too much. The thought that it ain't inhibiting staph at ALL is

of great concern to me and I don't know what to do about that. This

company is claiming to have stabilized allicin and normally the only

way you can stabilize it is very expensive in a lab like WEizzman

Institute, and you have to keep it at very low temps.

> >

> > Tony,

> >

> > What kind of allicin did you use? Allicin is very fragile and

most

> of its effects disappear very quickly when dealt with in any way

at

> all. That's why garlic needs to be eaten raw, immediately after

> crushing it, not exposed to air for more than a few minutes. And

> even by taking all these precautions I think only a fraction of

the

> allicin will reach your stomach (and your blood, maybe?) in a

form

> that can be antibiotic, fongicidal etc.

> >

> > I suspect that most commercial preparations that are meant to

> contain allicin are useless as far as antimicrobial properties

are

> concerned

> >

> > Nelly

> > [infections] Just another thing to

look

> at.

> >

> >

> > I had this sample that i tried a few substances against-Each

> substance

> > was dripped into the plate and labelled underneath. The drugs

> used

> > were aspirin, codeine, ibuprofen, colchicin (gout

> medicine),sporinox

> > the few granules are visable and allicin(totally useless no

> > antibacterial action) may help the blood issues though.The

> exciting

> > drug on this sample was the colchicin it just wopped

everything

> in a

> > wide radius.

> > There was also a bit of tony's home brew antibacterial soap

> which

> > still works perfect against all bacteria. This was in the

> middle of

> > the plate the exciting anti inflammatory is the aspirin.

> > tony

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Nelly,

> Try pressing raw FRESH garlic juice onto your plates (get a clove of

> garlic and a garlic crusher-crush the clove until a drop of liquid is

> obtained), and tell me what happens. I am dead serious, any other kind

> of garlic, no aged, powdered, freeze-dried garlic

Yeah, I read a serious, published review of garlic studies a few years

ago and the conclusion was that the only time it was clear that garlic

helped was when it was raw and fresh. The conclusion about the other

stuff was, well, maybe...but probably not...

Sue ,

Upstate New York