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I had ReA and most joint symptoms healed. I found Biaxin very good for

arthritis.

Weight gain also trouble, Im using fungilin and lamisil now which seems

to help.

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On 9 Feb 2006, at 16:34, Kate wrote:

> Any thoughts on the following? I am continuing antibiotic therapy for

> Lyme. What seems to have happened is that many symptoms have

> diminished, but the arthritic ones are the big problem, especially as

> I

> increase my activity level (I have been going to circus class

> lately!).

> Is it too late to stop arthritis in my case? (I had eight years of

> active Lyme before discovering what it was, and I am now 48.) Or do I

> need to be more patient, or am I not killing off what I need to kill

> off?

>

> I have some visible knee swelling again. I never tested positive for

> any autoimmune type arthritis, but it has become obvious to me that my

> problem has long been inflammation. My back was terrible for a while,

> and I lost mobility in my shoulder due to it freezing at one point.

> Docs kept missing the fact that this was all inflammation, so I didn't

> catch on to really trying to treat it that way. Amazing how people can

> try to convince you that you have tight muscles or something like that

> when it just ain't so.

>

> My joints crack and pop, but so far no grinding. They seem to work

> okay

> when not inflamed.

>

> Also, I can't gain any weight, no matter what I eat and how much.

> Perhaps my body has trouble rebuilding?

>

> - Kate

>

>

>

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Kate , I cant remember how long you have been with this group but

controlling inflammation is a vital step in any recovery with

infection..read s paper if you haven't already ...I can tell

first hand that the few over here who are using ARB's have had almost

miraculous results with their RA ...swelling gone joints normal ..in fact a

new life care of ARB's

Cancer, inflammation and the AT1 and AT2 receptors

http://www.journal-inflammation.com/content/1/1/3

[infections] arthritic and thin

Any thoughts on the following? I am continuing antibiotic therapy for

Lyme. What seems to have happened is that many symptoms have

diminished, but the arthritic ones are the big problem, especially as I

increase my activity level (I have been going to circus class lately!).

Is it too late to stop arthritis in my case? (I had eight years of

active Lyme before discovering what it was, and I am now 48.) Or do I

need to be more patient, or am I not killing off what I need to kill

off?

I have some visible knee swelling again. I never tested positive for

any autoimmune type arthritis, but it has become obvious to me that my

problem has long been inflammation. My back was terrible for a while,

and I lost mobility in my shoulder due to it freezing at one point.

Docs kept missing the fact that this was all inflammation, so I didn't

catch on to really trying to treat it that way. Amazing how people can

try to convince you that you have tight muscles or something like that

when it just ain't so.

My joints crack and pop, but so far no grinding. They seem to work okay

when not inflamed.

Also, I can't gain any weight, no matter what I eat and how much.

Perhaps my body has trouble rebuilding?

- Kate

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Dear Kate

Look for refs to the use of Boron supplementation and Arthritis. My trial

(n=1) suggests it is worth the effort. I will dig out the significant ones

if I can find them in the mess. Rex Newnham is the primary source.

http://www.glucosamine-arthritis.org/glucosamine/boron-arthritis.html

Regards

Windsor

[infections] arthritic and thin

> Any thoughts on the following? I am continuing antibiotic therapy for

> Lyme. What seems to have happened is that many symptoms have

> diminished, but the arthritic ones are the big problem, especially as I

> increase my activity level (I have been going to circus class lately!).

> Is it too late to stop arthritis in my case? (I had eight years of

> active Lyme before discovering what it was, and I am now 48.) Or do I

> need to be more patient, or am I not killing off what I need to kill

> off?

>

> I have some visible knee swelling again. I never tested positive for

> any autoimmune type arthritis, but it has become obvious to me that my

> problem has long been inflammation. My back was terrible for a while,

> and I lost mobility in my shoulder due to it freezing at one point.

> Docs kept missing the fact that this was all inflammation, so I didn't

> catch on to really trying to treat it that way. Amazing how people can

> try to convince you that you have tight muscles or something like that

> when it just ain't so.

>

> My joints crack and pop, but so far no grinding. They seem to work okay

> when not inflamed.

>

> Also, I can't gain any weight, no matter what I eat and how much.

> Perhaps my body has trouble rebuilding?

>

> - Kate

>

>

>

>

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Kate, I have been treating Lyme for two years now. At this point I

am testing negative and feel no Lyme symptoms anymore, but I started

it all because of arthritis, especially in my hands and hips.

After all is said and done, there is permanent damage to these

joints after so many years of infection - in my case about 30 years

or more, and also in my case, it doesn't improve past a certain

point.

Damage done doesn't seem to reverse. The trick I think, is to stop

further destruction. I have accepted pain therapy and now, like so

many others just have " arthritis " . Feh.

Cheers,

*S*

>

> Any thoughts on the following? I am continuing antibiotic therapy

for

> Lyme. What seems to have happened is that many symptoms have

> diminished, but the arthritic ones are the big problem, especially

as I

> increase my activity level (I have been going to circus class

lately!).

> Is it too late to stop arthritis in my case? (I had eight years of

> active Lyme before discovering what it was, and I am now 48.) Or

do I

> need to be more patient, or am I not killing off what I need to

kill

> off?

>

> I have some visible knee swelling again. I never tested positive

for

> any autoimmune type arthritis, but it has become obvious to me

that my

> problem has long been inflammation. My back was terrible for a

while,

> and I lost mobility in my shoulder due to it freezing at one

point.

> Docs kept missing the fact that this was all inflammation, so I

didn't

> catch on to really trying to treat it that way. Amazing how people

can

> try to convince you that you have tight muscles or something like

that

> when it just ain't so.

>

> My joints crack and pop, but so far no grinding. They seem to work

okay

> when not inflamed.

>

> Also, I can't gain any weight, no matter what I eat and how much.

> Perhaps my body has trouble rebuilding?

>

> - Kate

>

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Thanks. I do need to keep damage from happening, which will mean

supporting repair.

- Kate

On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 05:51 PM, Windsor wrote:

> Dear Kate

> Look for refs to the use of Boron supplementation and Arthritis. My

> trial

> (n=1) suggests it is worth the effort. I will dig out the significant

> ones

> if I can find them in the mess. Rex Newnham is the primary source.

> http://www.glucosamine-arthritis.org/glucosamine/boron-arthritis.html

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On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 05:51 PM, Windsor wrote:

> Boron supplementation and Arthritis

" 30 mg of sodium tetraborate "

Hmm, my bottle at home says 3 mg Boron citrate. What do you take?

- Kate

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Dear Kate

Ordinary kitchen or laundry grade borax ( sodium tetraborate). I used to do Newnham's recommendation of as much as will stick to the tip of a wetted finger, I now use a teaspoon and scoop up a little. There appears to be no toxicity problems within reason so I don't care if I have 30mg or 60 mg.

Apparently the body can store Boron so a heavy dose followed by a period without appears to be as effective as regular small dosed. I prefer the regular small dose as I don't forget.

Seems to have removed one pain source, the FM is still a problem.

Regards

Windsor

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On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 05:51 PM, Windsor wrote:

Boron supplementation and Arthritis"30 mg of sodium tetraborate"Hmm, my bottle at home says 3 mg Boron citrate. What do you take?- Kate

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