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Yes indeed. I am 95% well after one year of combination oral

antimicrobials. I dont know if borrelia caused my illness. I was

equivocal by IGeneX western blot.

My illness was not extreme, but it was truly severe. I essentially

couldnt do anything at all. I was in bed about half the day and

usually felt shockingly horrible, could only live a few hours at a

time. It was total agony. Now I feel normal alot of the time and can

run 3 miles. I only feel sick when it rains. This took a looooong time

and I didnt think it was ever going to happen. For instance it took 10

months of treatment to stop having major depression. Its resolution

was unexpected.

I do not agree with the notion one should stop treatment after 3

months asymptomatic, or whatever it is. It depends on whether you have

tolerance issues with abx, etc. But still thats too little. Personally

I would probably go another year or more if I ever become

asymptomatic. But I might also keep doing a few months a year for my

whole life, too. Or if my case doesnt resolve I may end up on multiple

abx every day for rest of my life, I dont know. OCD and gland

swellings dont seem to be changing at all so far. I will never stop

driving towards 100.00% resolution.

No one really knows how many people get how well. S Donta has data on

his regimes but personally I would not call them aggressive regimes. I

might guess there is roughly an even distribution, ie 1/4 of people

get 0-25% well, 1/4 get 25-50% well, 1/4 get 50-75% well, etc. I have

read alot of papers and alot of posts on sick lists, but this estimate

is very very rough, a total guess. It could be quite far off. Well

people tend to leave the lists to some extent, tho they sometimes drop

by to say theyre well. With the recovery estimates, I'm talking not

just about people with a lyme dx, but also RA, MS, CFS, Crohns,

whatever; they all behave about the same. Newer cases seem to do

better on average, but this tendency is a moderate one.

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> Network BlitzIs anyone feeling better on antibiotics? How long does

that

> wellness last? Is it curing, getting rid of the lyme? Or just

slowing it

> down for a while?

>

> How functional/well are those of you who used abx therapy?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Ann

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That is a very honest, good post, and smart post.I try and make

people understand that your misiion has to be attacked 100% and your

the best to know when the jobs done.The decent dose opf multi

antibiotics with the odd rotation is the most imortant thing people

should have in there medical chest.Then if they understand the odds

and ends that infection causes like all your internals to clog up

with slime and your high levels of scar tissue from the painfull

toxins, there should be no surprises.

tony

> >

> > Network BlitzIs anyone feeling better on antibiotics? How long

does

> that

> > wellness last? Is it curing, getting rid of the lyme? Or just

> slowing it

> > down for a while?

> >

> > How functional/well are those of you who used abx therapy?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Ann

> >

>

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For people (other than myself) I don't think I can flatly say

it's proper to stay on abx continually for months, nor can I say

when it's proper for someone to stop abx treatment.

IMO, there are alot of variables and black magic that come into

play: gender (i.e. hormones), age, pathogen, lenghth of illness,

heath of the host going into treatment - immune status, drug

metabolism etc.

Treatment has to be tailored to the individual.

I've been driving towards a productive healthy life longer than

you've been alive (I think I'm twice your age, becoming ill at 26 or

27) so I've lived one of the lives that could have been your future.

You're fortunate you've treated your illness early and I think you'll

avoid what I went through.

A agree with the need for abx in the future though & I have

entertained the thought of doing one month of antibiotics

per year also - sort of like a reverse vaccination.

I happy for you that you're 95% well.!

Barb

ERIC WROTE IN PART:

" I do not agree with the notion one should stop treatment after 3

months asymptomatic, or whatever it is. It depends on whether you have

tolerance issues with abx, etc. But still thats too little. Personally

I would probably go another year or more if I ever become

asymptomatic. But I might also keep doing a few months a year for my

whole life, too. Or if my case doesnt resolve I may end up on multiple

abx every day for rest of my life, I dont know. OCD and gland

swellings dont seem to be changing at all so far. I will never stop

driving towards 100.00% resolution.

No one really knows how many people get how well. S Donta has data on

his regimes but personally I would not call them aggressive regimes. I

might guess there is roughly an even distribution, ie 1/4 of people

get 0-25% well, 1/4 get 25-50% well, 1/4 get 50-75% well, etc. I have

read alot of papers and alot of posts on sick lists, but this estimate

is very very rough, a total guess. It could be quite far off. Well

people tend to leave the lists to some extent, tho they sometimes drop

by to say theyre well.

With the recovery estimates, I'm talking not

just about people with a lyme dx, but also RA, MS, CFS, Crohns,

whatever; they all behave about the same. Newer cases seem to do

better on average, but this tendency is a moderate one. "

> >

> > Network BlitzIs anyone feeling better on antibiotics? How long

does

> that

> > wellness last? Is it curing, getting rid of the lyme? Or just

> slowing it

> > down for a while?

> >

> > How functional/well are those of you who used abx therapy?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Ann

> >

>

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I'd be interested in reading that.

Barb

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> > Network BlitzIs anyone feeling better on antibiotics? How long

does

> that

> > wellness last? Is it curing, getting rid of the lyme? Or just

> slowing it

> > down for a while?

> >

> > How functional/well are those of you who used abx therapy?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > Ann

> >

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> I've been driving towards a productive healthy life longer than

> you've been alive (I think I'm twice your age, becoming ill at 26 or

> 27) so I've lived one of the lives that could have been your future.

> You're fortunate you've treated your illness early and I think

you'll

> avoid what I went through.

> I happy for you that you're 95% well.!

> Barb

Thanks Barb. You especially taught me left from right when I was

getting started, and your help was generous. I owe terribly much to

what I learned from this list (thanks in turn to Pennys resiliance).

Without the whole infection community, patients cooperating on

knowledge, researchers doggedly bickering with the rigid-minded,

doctors slogging thru all kinds of bogus bullshit for us, all of it

put together, I'd probably be dead. Instead Im becoming happy. I can

spend time kayaking and cycling feeling just fine, and I feel the

value of those things pretty damn intensely.

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