Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Our experience (my son is 16 y.o.) is that once the OCD gets under control through ERP, the waxings can be nipped in the bud as soon as they are recognized by promptly applying the principles of ERP (exposure and response prevention). It sounds like your son needs a therapist skilled in this treatment modality. Perhaps someone in the Little Rock area can recommend someone. Judy ----- waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Our experience (my son is 16 y.o.) is that once the OCD gets under control through ERP, the waxings can be nipped in the bud as soon as they are recognized by promptly applying the principles of ERP (exposure and response prevention). It sounds like your son needs a therapist skilled in this treatment modality. Perhaps someone in the Little Rock area can recommend someone. Judy ----- waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Our experience (my son is 16 y.o.) is that once the OCD gets under control through ERP, the waxings can be nipped in the bud as soon as they are recognized by promptly applying the principles of ERP (exposure and response prevention). It sounds like your son needs a therapist skilled in this treatment modality. Perhaps someone in the Little Rock area can recommend someone. Judy ----- waxing and waning I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Hi Sheila, Unfortunately, there is no way to know how long a waxing period is going to last. What I can say is that, in general, when a person has learned how to use the techniques learned in cbt, they can use them more efficiently and usually regain their control easier than if they were starting from scratch. In simple words, because they already know what to do, its easier to get back on track. What may be necessary, is for your son to access his previous therapist, or a new one trained in cbt for ocd, and receive support for his efforts. Therapists trained to work with OCD will have explained that this is a possibility (relapse) and worked on relapse prevention skills. With adolescents, the first step is to access the person that coached them during therapy (mom? dad?). This is a time for the coach to go back to 'cheer leading' and remind the person that they were in control in the past, and they will be again! I will become reinvolved if this has not worked and some refresher sessions are needed. On another thought, could it be that his Celexa has stopped being effective and its time for a change or increase? Remember to reinforce that cbt is the backup needed for meds and that some people can manage their O's and C's without medication. take care and let us know how things work out, wendy in canada ======================================== >My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. >His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I >understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he >can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning >begins? sheila _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Hi Sheila, Unfortunately, there is no way to know how long a waxing period is going to last. What I can say is that, in general, when a person has learned how to use the techniques learned in cbt, they can use them more efficiently and usually regain their control easier than if they were starting from scratch. In simple words, because they already know what to do, its easier to get back on track. What may be necessary, is for your son to access his previous therapist, or a new one trained in cbt for ocd, and receive support for his efforts. Therapists trained to work with OCD will have explained that this is a possibility (relapse) and worked on relapse prevention skills. With adolescents, the first step is to access the person that coached them during therapy (mom? dad?). This is a time for the coach to go back to 'cheer leading' and remind the person that they were in control in the past, and they will be again! I will become reinvolved if this has not worked and some refresher sessions are needed. On another thought, could it be that his Celexa has stopped being effective and its time for a change or increase? Remember to reinforce that cbt is the backup needed for meds and that some people can manage their O's and C's without medication. take care and let us know how things work out, wendy in canada ======================================== >My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. >His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I >understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he >can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning >begins? sheila _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 Hi Sheila, Unfortunately, there is no way to know how long a waxing period is going to last. What I can say is that, in general, when a person has learned how to use the techniques learned in cbt, they can use them more efficiently and usually regain their control easier than if they were starting from scratch. In simple words, because they already know what to do, its easier to get back on track. What may be necessary, is for your son to access his previous therapist, or a new one trained in cbt for ocd, and receive support for his efforts. Therapists trained to work with OCD will have explained that this is a possibility (relapse) and worked on relapse prevention skills. With adolescents, the first step is to access the person that coached them during therapy (mom? dad?). This is a time for the coach to go back to 'cheer leading' and remind the person that they were in control in the past, and they will be again! I will become reinvolved if this has not worked and some refresher sessions are needed. On another thought, could it be that his Celexa has stopped being effective and its time for a change or increase? Remember to reinforce that cbt is the backup needed for meds and that some people can manage their O's and C's without medication. take care and let us know how things work out, wendy in canada ======================================== >My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a .25 xanax. >His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I >understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he >can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning >begins? sheila _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2002 Report Share Posted January 31, 2002 HI Sheila: Does your son's counselor do exposure and response prevention therapy with him? If so they should be able to design some exposures and behavior therapy interventions to help him through this adjustment. With a move and changes on the horizon it is all too frequent that our beloved OCDers experience a waxing of symptoms. Sometimes they just go up and down without any clear connection. During a time of waxing and waning the best thing we found to help our son was having the frequency of his E & RP increased and simplification of his life around him until a waning period came by. Sometimes a med adjustment might help get things a bit more under control for some people. When in crisis we tried to follow a few guidelines - stay calm, if only outwardly; keep life as simple as possible, even boring and totally routine; work like heck to get good quality treatment professionals on the team to help turn things around. Good luck, take care, hugs to you and your son, aloha, kathy (h) kathyh@... > > waxing and waning > > > I haven't posted since this summer but I will update you before I ask the questions. My son is 22 and was diagnosed a year and a half ago. He takes 80mgs of Celexa a day as well as a .5 risperdal and a ..25 xanax. His ocd appears to be waxing for the past couple of weeks, from what I understand about the nature of the illness. What I want to know is how he can get it back under control? How long does waxing last before waning begins? He has been living 2 1/2 hours away since Sept. and been doing fairly well (or at least bearable with ocd). He does not have a new psychiatrist in Little Rock yet. His is still in Dallas although he has been seeing a counselor. I will try to get him into one there now that this has happened, but what do we do in the meantime. Help! Thanks, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 05:04 AM, dumbaussie2000 wrote: > One of > many OBVIOUS PROBLEMS is the waxing and wanning and the fickleness > of being almost perfect one moment to being completely blown away > the next(age and ilness duration dependant). I never had much of the waxing and waning. Once I was down, I was down. Although there were some middle years where my illness was more tolerable than at the beginning or within recent history. Sure, I had moveable aches and pains, but once I got sick I was never " almost perfect " again. I think that before I knew I was sick is when the variability might have been showing itself. I just didn't recognize it as anything. My illness should have shouted " Lyme " to anyone who knew anything. Very classic early symptom was terrible knee pain. At that time I was a dancer. Since then my joints have never been right. Nobody even clued me in to inflammation. They just let my shoulder freeze and even now I don't have full ROM. Finally the back problems started and I would give anything to have had real treatment before that got started. I guess all my digestive symptoms the first year threw off the doctors. Not that they were doing any real detective work. Wow, how weird to find out that gastroenterologists know nothing about how to fix digestive problems! Tony, I'm not saying there's nothing else growing in my joints or whatever, but I have about the least amount of " head " symptoms as anyone I know with a chronic pain/fatigue problem. I will admit to having one root canal, which very well could be rotten, although I was already sick before that. Probably it's now a nice little nest for the Bb bugs and whatever else I've picked up. - Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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