Hard time with depression any ideas?

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Hello All

i am a severely depressed aspie at the moment. im so depressed that my

fella scared me and we've split up.

i am currently on b6, mag, cal, milk thistle, b12 tablets with 100mg

of 5htp per night. im taking the recommended dosages according to

" Children with Starving Brains " . i cant take anymore than 100mg of

5htp (any more causes severe confusion).

i stopped some supplements when the severe depression hit for fear

that it was causing my abdominal cramps. It hurts whether i eat or

not, no constipation or diarreah.

i think the doctor will diagnose me with IBS on thursday, i have asked

her for a trial on LDN to see how it goes. If she says no then i will

consider going private when i have the cash (on disability benefits).

i think my dyslexia is getting worse so might add in the fish oil. The

only other change to my supplements is that my brand of 5htp contains

malic acid and im also drinking 7up for the malic acid as well.

A relative is having cancer surgery on Friday but im wondering what

supplements/dietary interventions can help me through this? im in the

uk so not sure if cutting out soy will be feasible or not?

i am currently gf/cf/msg/aspartame/benzoate free. i have checked

everything that i may come into contact with and currently none of it

contains off limit stuff.

i am chelating at irregular intervals (by irregular i mean not always

every weekend as originally done) according to the AC protocol. Could

this be the stall period? Shall i post this message on the chelation

list as well?

My anxiety and poor sleep patterns are back again. Before i was going

to bed about midnight and getting up with little ill effects. Now im

lucky if i get to bed before 5am!

Any ideas what to do? im too scared to be medicated by the doctor, i

nearly went literally mad on the risperdal i was on last time.

is

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alexis - poor you. It might also be linked to teh end of summer time,

SAD can feel horrible. I have to start taking St 's WOrt about

now and do so until Feb. It works a bit like prozac apparently, the

only side effect is that it makes your skin more photosensitive.

There are various Good Mood Foods too - basil is great. Or as you say

might be linked to gap in chelation.

Hope you feel better

Steph x

>

> Hello All

>

> i am a severely depressed aspie at the moment. im so depressed that my

> fella scared me and we've split up.

>

> i am currently on b6, mag, cal, milk thistle, b12 tablets with 100mg

> of 5htp per night. im taking the recommended dosages according to

> " Children with Starving Brains " . i cant take anymore than 100mg of

> 5htp (any more causes severe confusion).

>

> i stopped some supplements when the severe depression hit for fear

> that it was causing my abdominal cramps. It hurts whether i eat or

> not, no constipation or diarreah.

>

> i think the doctor will diagnose me with IBS on thursday, i have asked

> her for a trial on LDN to see how it goes. If she says no then i will

> consider going private when i have the cash (on disability benefits).

>

> i think my dyslexia is getting worse so might add in the fish oil. The

> only other change to my supplements is that my brand of 5htp contains

> malic acid and im also drinking 7up for the malic acid as well.

>

> A relative is having cancer surgery on Friday but im wondering what

> supplements/dietary interventions can help me through this? im in the

> uk so not sure if cutting out soy will be feasible or not?

>

> i am currently gf/cf/msg/aspartame/benzoate free. i have checked

> everything that i may come into contact with and currently none of it

> contains off limit stuff.

>

> i am chelating at irregular intervals (by irregular i mean not always

> every weekend as originally done) according to the AC protocol. Could

> this be the stall period? Shall i post this message on the chelation

> list as well?

>

> My anxiety and poor sleep patterns are back again. Before i was going

> to bed about midnight and getting up with little ill effects. Now im

> lucky if i get to bed before 5am!

>

> Any ideas what to do? im too scared to be medicated by the doctor, i

> nearly went literally mad on the risperdal i was on last time.

>

> is

>

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Hi is

This sounds a really hard time for you, so sorry you feel so bad. I

wondered if GABA might help if you have anxiety too.

I have recently started the supplement Adrenal Dynamite and I just

thought that maybe if you feel stressed then your Adrenals will be

too and antioxidants and Adrenal Support supplements could be useful.

(This has everything in it already). I did some biomed testing and my

results were pretty awful. They looked like someone who may suffer

from SAD or depression and Muscroft our Nutritionist recommended

a SAD lamp which goes on 1 hour before you wake and helps copes with

the low moods of winter (I actually dont feel very depressed, maybe

I've been too shattered for that!!) I thought this was a good idea

and was going to tell my friend who does have SAD all about that.

Like you say my sleep was not great and the results showed my

melatonin profile all over the place, this is much better now. I am

sleeping wonderfully and I feel better since the dietary changes and

supplements have started. Vitamin D also good at this time of year in

the UK.

I am reading at the moment the Suzanne Somers book called

Breakthrough. I really recommend it. She speaks to some leading

doctors about anti-aging, good diet and supplements. She is very into

bioidentical hormones. Also she mentions the Lifewave patches which

can help with diet, detox, increased energy. I have some of these and

am about to try them. I think they sound fab.

I dont know if any of this is useful is but i wish you all the

best.

Luv Caroline

xx

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>

> alexis - poor you. It might also be linked to teh end of summer

> time, SAD can feel horrible. I have to start taking St 's WOrt

> about now and do so until Feb.

i am concerned that my CFS/ME could relapse if i try this? i guess

ive nothing to loose by attempting this remedy. Wondering if bachs

flower remedies could help me as well?

> It works a bit like prozac apparently, the only side effect is that

> it makes your skin more photosensitive.

i dont like the sun or sunbathing anyway. i dont use suncream either

(too cold and slimy sensory overload trying the stuff).

>

> There are various Good Mood Foods too - basil is great.

Could explain why im a little perked up today. Ive made a basil and

tomato vegetarian (im not a veggie) pasta today. All

gf/cf/msg/aspartame/benzoate free of course. i added basil to it in

dried form so will try and use it more in cooking.

> Or as you say might be linked to gap in chelation.

i found the licorice root extract (could have been an adrenal

problem)to be only slightly helpful. i increased to 2 tablets and

found it to overload my system.

>

> Hope you feel better

> Steph x

thanks for your support Steph

is

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>

> Is 7Up benzoate-free?

Just double checked yes the brand im using is benzoate free. Contains

sodium citrate, natural flavourings, malic acid.

> Sally

is

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>

> Hi is

>

> This sounds a really hard time for you, so sorry you feel so bad. I

> wondered if GABA might help if you have anxiety too.

i am trying to persuade my doctor to try the LDN approach as i feel it

could greatly benefit me. i told her i would go to any specialist that

could prescribe the med and would literally come to the doctors to

have this med administered to me if necessary.

Do certain foods contain GABA? If not can you recommend a brand of

GABA for me to try?

>

> I have recently started the supplement Adrenal Dynamite and I just

> thought that maybe if you feel stressed then your Adrenals will be

> too and antioxidants and Adrenal Support supplements could be

> useful.

i took 420mg of licorice root extract. i felt better on it and less

adrenaline floating around my body. i took 840mg and found i felt

worse. There is a warning about sulphites and soya on the brand im

using(good naturals).

> (This has everything in it already). I did some biomed testing and >

my results were pretty awful.

i plan to do this once i have the cash to spare. im trying to run a

home on disability benefits (no rent to pay thankfully).

> They looked like someone who may suffer from SAD or depression and >

Muscroft our Nutritionist recommended a SAD lamp which goes on >

1 hour before you wake and helps copes with the low moods of winter

Is that the same as the bodyclock alarm that uses daylight to wake you

up in the morning? i think im going to give that one a go.

>(I actually dont feel very depressed, maybe I've been too shattered >

for that!!) I thought this was a good idea and was going to tell my >

friend who does have SAD all about that.

Depending on the light frequencies used (my brain cannot cope with

red, green or yellow light) then it could benefit me.

>

> Like you say my sleep was not great and the results showed my

> melatonin profile all over the place, this is much better now. I am

> sleeping wonderfully and I feel better since the dietary changes

> and supplements have started. Vitamin D also good at this time of

> year in the UK.

Thanks for your support that encourages me to get better. The vitamin

D sounds like a good idea. Maybe a glass of my fav rice milk

(fortified with vit d)could help me? Im trying not to add supplements

at the moment (or to drop ones i can do without) due to my stomach

cramps. Breaking wind helps them as does alka seltzer sometimes.

>

> I am reading at the moment the Suzanne Somers book called

> Breakthrough. I really recommend it.

i tried the " building confidence for dummies " but IME it wasnt very

asperger friendly. However the NLP for dummies book could be more

beneficial to me.

> She speaks to some leading doctors about anti-aging, good diet and >

supplements.

im hoping to give myself a better diet. i am almost organic totally

now only a few items are non organic.

> She is very into bioidentical hormones. Also she mentions the

> Lifewave patches which can help with diet, detox, increased energy.

> I have some of these and am about to try them. I think they sound

> fab.

>

> I dont know if any of this is useful is but i wish you all the

> best.

Thanks for your help Caroline especially with the Vit D and daylight lamp.

>

> Luv Caroline

> xx

>

is

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>

> Vitamin D, Vitamn D, Vitamin D! and take with Vitamin C and

> carnitine to make sure it is absotbed.

Right ok, i need more organic orange squash and more rice milk.

>

> Vitamin D, I have just learned, increases serotonin receptors in

> cell membranes.

Sounds like good stuff.

>

> Or go and lie on a sunbed for a few minutes a day.

Cannot use suncream due to sensory issues. Also cold weather means

being outside affects another disability (Raynauds).

>

>

is

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There is quite a lot of evidence that the omega 3 long chain fatty acids

combat depresssion ie EPA and DHA.

I'll find some now but there is loads.

Sally

atrekkie22 wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Hi is,

> > For me Evening Primrose oil in high doses

>

> i have taken that product before and will try to do so again.

>

> > Cod Liver Oil

>

> i cannot take Cod Liver Oil due to the fact that the species is

> possibly going extinct.

>

> >(Vit D! as someone else said) help a lot with depression.

>

> What is the highest dosage of omega oils that i could take? i have

> tried being on 1000mg before with few negative side effects. Unsure if

> my current brand " Tescos omega fish oil " is causing my bowel problems

> so i have cut them out. i will add them back in again since the bowel

> pains are not easing.

>

> > I notice that my son with autism brightens up on EPO and CLO.

>

> Will definitely try the EPO thanks for that, added to my shopping list

> for tomorrow (i am one of the few fortunate autistic adults who have

> home support).

>

> > Magnesium and epsom salt baths have helped his anxiety.

>

> Sorry do you mean the magnesium needs to be in the bath? Or taken

> orally? i once had about a few grains of epsom salt orally in water

> and i was becoming more articulate within minutes. i am willing to try

> a foot spa bath. How much water to how much epsom salt would people

> recommend here?

>

> > Also melatonin with magnesium helped sleep (if my son misses a

> > dose, he cannot go to sleep).

>

> Currently taking 5htp which contains malic acid as well (470mg). It

> could mean that im peeing out aluminum and this is causing the

> emotional upset?

> >

> > For our son, we use Evening Primrose Oil from the Breakspear

> > hospital (as it is organic)

>

> Ah organic supplements now theres an idea. i will investigate

> Breakspear hospital further thanks for that useful tip.

>

> > For myself, however, I've just bought the huge jugs of 1,000 EPO

> > capsules from the High street health store and they have worked

> > just fine and are a lot cheaper.

>

> OK i will try and find a brand, will attempt to find a soy free brand

> as well in case i decide to try the soy free route.

> >

> > I wouldn't think that Risperdol would help with depression but then

> > I'm not a psychiatrist.

>

> It was prescribed to help with sleep but caused me to almost turn

> psychotic. im a naturally reluctant to be medicated again. i told the

> doctor the other day that a simple course of anti fungals made me so

> depressed i wanted to kill myself.

>

> > If you think your depression is severe, you really need to find a

> > professional that you can trust to help you out and to monitor your

> > situation.

>

> i understand this, however due to my Aspergers the NHS uses this as an

> excuse to try and help me. Apparently i dont have a mental health

> problem is what my doctor is told when she tries to refer me.

> >

> > Good luck and hope something shifts for you soon,

>

> Thanks for your supportive comments Darla. Just hoping the doctor is

> willing to try other methods instead of " try these pills and they take

> 2-4 weeks to work " . My response " i cant wait that long i need

> something more long term " .

>

> > Darla

>

> is (who finds anti depressants make her more depressed not less)

>

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Drop the Red Bull. the amonut of sugar in there is mnaking youir

adrenal glands go bananas. Restart with adrenal support..

atrekkie22 schrieb:

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> >

> > is have you ever tried Inositol for anxiety?

>

> i drink about 1 can of red bull a week that contains Inositol (or

> taurine?) amongst other things. Then later on i take 7up to counteract

> the aluminium in the canned drink. Wish red bull was in a glass bottle!

>

> One thing i do have in my cupboard waiting to be trailed is " taurine " .

> Is this useful for depression?

>

> > Vicky

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