Re: babesia--another thought, TOny- Jill

[Guest guest]

It's pretty easy to be de-wormed with Ivermectin if you think

you have any of those parasites. It's done all the time

in the developing countries.

Jill: As far as Babs goes - if you're infected with a low level -

which I suspect you are (since you're not in bed with Babs symptoms)

you'll probably be wasting your money to cath one in a smear. If

your % infection was high enough to see one in a smear- you'd

probably be in Bed.

What is your RBC profile? If you're in range, then it's even less

likely to see anything via smear.

Barb

> >

> > By the way, for chronic babesia probably the best treatment would

be

> > exchange transfusion and then aggressive treatment with about 3

> drugs

> > at once.

> > Honestly.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Barb, I'm not in bed because of hyperbaric. When my chamber was out

for repair, by the end of the 5 or 6 weeks I was half-dead. One

weekend I became convinced I was dying. That was irrational as my

chamber was coming back. I wasn't hysterical either, I just " knew " I

was dying.

> > >

> > > By the way, for chronic babesia probably the best treatment

would

> be

> > > exchange transfusion and then aggressive treatment with about 3

> > drugs

> > > at once.

> > > Honestly.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Barb Peck wrote to Jill:

> What is your RBC profile?  If you're in range, then it's even less

> likely to see anything via smear.

Okay, so if my RBC counts are okay, then I probably don't have Babesia?

I don't think I do, but have been unable to obtain a test, due to the

scorn of the local ID doc, who controls all blood going out of the

country through the hospital. [He has never seen a case of babesia in

Nova Scotia.]

It's only my WBC counts that sometimes go low. Lyme plus whatever

else....

- Kate

[Guest guest]

No. You can have babesia and normal RBC counts.

>

>

> On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Barb Peck wrote to Jill:

>

> > What is your RBC profile?  If you're in range, then it's even less

> > likely to see anything via smear.

>

> Okay, so if my RBC counts are okay, then I probably don't have

Babesia?

> I don't think I do, but have been unable to obtain a test, due to

the

> scorn of the local ID doc, who controls all blood going out of the

> country through the hospital. [He has never seen a case of babesia

in

> Nova Scotia.]

>

> It's only my WBC counts that sometimes go low. Lyme plus whatever

> else....

>

> - Kate

>

[Guest guest]

If you've reduced your Babs load with your chamber (or by what ever

means) then you're still not likely to catch one in a smear.

Barb

> > > >

> > > > By the way, for chronic babesia probably the best treatment

> would

> > be

> > > > exchange transfusion and then aggressive treatment with about

3

> > > drugs

> > > > at once.

> > > > Honestly.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't say that -

I meant if the % infection is low, you're much less likely to find

one in a smear.

IMO, and supported by the literature- if the % infection is high

enough, you should see evidence of that in an RBC (even if you don't

see evidence in a smear) because when they exit an RBC it's

destroyed, so there'll be atypical RBCs found with a routine manual

(not automatic) differential.. (RBC fragments etc) and if RBC

destruction has been going on for a while, the body responds with new

RBCs, and new younf ones are bigger than mature ones - and that's

evident in an RBC profile too.

All I'm saying is the larger the Babs load- the more symptoms -

including the RBC profile... the smaller the load, the less evidence.

Barb

>

>

> On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 11:53 AM, Barb Peck wrote to Jill:

>

> > What is your RBC profile?  If you're in range, then it's even less

> > likely to see anything via smear.

>

> Okay, so if my RBC counts are okay, then I probably don't have

Babesia?

> I don't think I do, but have been unable to obtain a test, due to

the

> scorn of the local ID doc, who controls all blood going out of the

> country through the hospital. [He has never seen a case of babesia

in

> Nova Scotia.]

>

> It's only my WBC counts that sometimes go low. Lyme plus whatever

> else....

>

> - Kate

>